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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IbeOkehie: 9:43am On Jan 25
GloriousGbola:
Your answer to a query based on a report by newseek is 'newseek is lying'

That shows that all that one will get from you is bad faith arguments where you substitute your own personal reality and alternative facts.

Good luck to you
grin grin grin

https://chicago.suntimes.com/columnists/2025/12/13/south-west-sides-property-taxes-black-home-ownership-alden-loury

West Side community leaders were quick to express their concerns that the county’s highest property tax hikes were being shouldered by homeowners who were least able to afford them. “You have the poorest people, in the poorest neighborhoods, with the largest increase,” said the Rev. Marshall Hatch in an interview with WBEZ. Hatch is the longtime pastor of the New Mount Pilgrim Missionary Baptist Church, which is located in West Garfield Park.

The concerns are immediate. Property tax bills are due Monday.
You gave EXACTLY the response I expected. Which is why I initially laughed. Liberals & progressives NEVER look at logic and evidence, all they do is USE EMOTIONS AND FEELINGS to intimidate others into giving them money.

Black African immigrants....the descendants of those who sold Black Americans into slavery....are now coming to the USA to rip off, impoverish and despoil Black Americans. That's all you're defending, that's the ENTIRE motive behind ALL the Nigerian support for illegal immigration. That's the same logic underpinning the Black South African hate for their own Nigerian immigrants.

Nigerians are brilliant, resourceful and young with abundant resources in the form of abundant crude oil & natural gas, farmland, long coastline and other resources. Those of you who are patriotic should go and build your beloved Nigeria and leave the USA alone.

Good Luck to Nigerians.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GloriousGbola: 9:55am On Jan 25
IbeOkehie:
https://chicago.suntimes.com/columnists/2025/12/13/south-west-sides-property-taxes-black-home-ownership-alden-loury



You gave EXACTLY the response I expected. Which is why I initially laughed. Liberals & progressives NEVER look at logic and evidence, all they do is USE EMOTIONS AND FEELINGS to intimidate others into giving them money.




Nigerians are brilliant, resourceful and young with abundant resources in the form of abundant crude oil & natural gas, farmland, long coastline and other resources. Those of you who are patriotic should go and build your beloved Nigeria and leave the USA alone.

Good Luck to Nigerians.
a person who will call the report of a large well respected journal as lying is a man stuck in his won echo chmaber

Black African immigrants....the descendants of those who sold Black Americans into slavery....are now coming to the USA to rip off, impoverish and despoil Black Americans. That's all you're defending, that's the ENTIRE motive behind ALL the Nigerian support for illegal immigration. That's the same logic underpinning the Black South African hate for their own Nigerian immigrants.
damn the mask is off - so are you saying that raum who is an immigrant is in the us to rip off impoverish and despoil black americans?

i have to ask since i dont know whether you are a black american, an anchor baby, or an immigrant who thinks he is not an immigrant for reasons. or are you a lower case 'foundational black american?'

who is supporting illegal immigration? because we are calling out thuggish police tactics? any nigerian can recognize what ice is devolving into - a tool to attack your political opponents and whose officers are above the law. we are in shock because the us was a so called saner clime where this did not happen. you may as well be a spokeman for efcc or SARS, defending illegal entry, theft, harassment and extortion.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GloriousGbola: 10:04am On Jan 25
Yes I have the time and yes, you're LYING to the max. You're NOT a remote worker and you've NEVER set foot in the UK, Canada or USA. So give it a rest. You're talking trash. Yes, my name is Ibezim Okehie, I live in Raleigh NC and I'm a pharmacist. I'm a normal, middle class American citizen, I have nothing to hide or be ashamed of. I've committed no crime and that's why I'm bold enough to tell it like it is. You on the other hand, you're evidently ashamed of something. With all the big gara-gara on this forum I would think you would at least tell us your name and bona fides. I double dare you to tell us so we can get a sense of what makes you so contemptuous of Nigerians living abroad. I'm really, really interested, I want to know so I can learn something. Show us what justifies your opinions.

I understand your desperate NEED to disparage Nigerians living abroad. Sowing uncertainty and doubt among diasporans makes those stuck in Nigeria feel better about their own bleak prospects in the general COMPETITION with their mates abroad. It's galling to know you're jobless or making ₦‎150K salary when your university classmate in US/UK sends triple that amount home every month. So your response is to make fun of them, make them feel uncertain and uncomfortable. To understand why this is a FUTILE tactic, you have to think back. In the 1970s & 80s lots of Nigerians abroad returned home for good and raised their families. A MAJORITY of them fell into poverty. Many of their children are now back in the Anglo-West.

After the return of democracy in 1999, there was another surge of returnees. These ones learned the lessons of the 1970's & 80's and didn't completely uproot themselves. I was among that cohort. By 2012 it became clear that Nigeria was still a disaster zone. Right now in 2023, for well known reasons, very few Nigerians residing abroad will take the chance of going back. So all the efforts to make us feel bad about our choices are FUTILE because we have 50 years of REAL RESULTS AND EXPERIENCE with which to make comparisons. Trying to drag down those ahead of you is not a good life strategy. It worked for a while, yes some of us fell for it but not anymore. Get it? You can't persuade anyone to indefinitely live on unrealistic HOPES of a nebulous Afro-revival.

Nigerians !!!! A truly special people!!!
Black African immigrants....the descendants of those who sold Black Americans into slavery....are now coming to the USA to rip off, impoverish and despoil Black Americans. That's all you're defending, that's the ENTIRE motive behind ALL the Nigerian support for illegal immigration. That's the same logic underpinning the Black South African hate for their own Nigerian immigrants.
make it make sense please

A nigerian living abroad is calling other nigerian immigrants thieves and despoilers
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 10:18am On Jan 25
History not only rhymes …

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 10:20am On Jan 25
There was not a single point in any frame where he held or was able to hold a weapon as both his hands were on the ground while being tackled by a dozen of men!
One man shoved a woman to the ground. Another man stepped in to protect the woman. The man who shoved the woman then pepper sprayed the man trying to protect her. The guy who shoved the woman continued to pepper spray them both and the man who stepped in tried to use his body as a shield to protect the woman. The guy who shoved the woman then started trying to drag the man shielding the woman away. The woman shoving man failed to drag the man shielding the woman so several more men jumped in to stop the man from shielding the woman. The woman shover and his friends then stomped, punched, and kicked the man who had been trying to shield the woman. As they assaulted him they realized the shielding man had a holstered gun. The shielding man fought to get free to protect the woman, but never reached for his gun. One of the stomping men grabbed the shielding man’s gun and cleared himself before a single shot was fired. The other men then, after he had been disarmed, shot the shielding man ten or more times despite never having reached for his gun and after he’d already been disarmed.

That is exactly what happened. A man was murdered for trying to protect a woman who’d been assaulted.

He wasn’t a terrorist, he was a hero. He was the one protecting someone and he was gunned down for doing what any decent man should do when he sees a woman being assaulted. Alex Pretti died a hero. Alex Pretti exemplified the best of America and was murdered for it.

If you have any honor, any love for your country, and basic human decency, you will applaud the Alex Pretti and condemn the men who murdered him.

-James Hodge
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IbeOkehie: 10:22am On Jan 25
GloriousGbola:
1) who is supporting illegal immigration?

2) because we are calling out thuggish police tactics?
Good, these are points worth examining.

1) I asked a simple question and I'll ask again in a different way.

Did you have or express any reservations about the open border policy put in place by President Joe Biden during his term in office?

2) Flows from the issue you've raised - ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. There would be little ICE activity in major cities if there was no crisis of ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. Add to that -

a) there would be zero abusive police tactics if citizens didn't go around obstructing ICE operations

b) there would be no shootings if citizens simply complied with police officers EVEN WHEN STOPPED UNJUSTLY.

I got a traffic ticket some months ago. I've had many others over 30 years in the USA. I'm still alive and conversing with you. You've implied the justice system may lynch me, but you have nothing to say about the legal lynching of President Trump.

Igbo people lost their lives trying to vote in the last elections in Lagos State...I bet you had NOTHING to say about that.

Igbo people regularly lose their property in Lagos State, I bet you have NOTHING to say about that.

Noooo, the USA is the prime concern. That's rich.

I understand you very well. The United States of America is the ONLY nation on earth with a LIMITED GOVERNMENT. The task of every US citizen should be the survival of our Republic as such and also to EXPAND our freedoms. We have to ELIMINATE property taxes and ABOLISH the Federal Reserve and replace fiat currency with real money.

Racist and sexist propaganda driven by SOCIALIST GREED has zero effect on me.

Good Luck to Nigerians.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 10:22am On Jan 25
GloriousGbola:
make it make sense please

A nigerian living abroad is calling other nigerian immigrants thieves and despoilers
I used to think he had common sense.

Safe to say I was thoroughly wrong.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 10:24am On Jan 25
IbeOkehie:
Good, these are points worth examining.

1) I asked a simple question and I'll ask again in a different way.

Did you have or express any reservations about the open border policy put in place by President Joe Biden during his term in office?

2) Flows from the issue you've raised - ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. There would be little ICE activity in major cities if there was no crisis of ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. Add to that -

a) there would be zero abusive police tactics if citizens didn't go around obstructing ICE operations

b) there would be no shootings if citizens simply complied with police officers EVEN WHEN STOPPED UNJUSTLY.

I got a traffic ticket some months ago. I've had many others over 30 years in the USA. I'm still alive and conversing with you. You've implied the justice system may lynch me, but you have nothing to say about the legal lynching of President Trump.

Igbo people lost their lives trying to vote in the last elections in Lagos State...I bet you had NOTHING to say about that.

Igbo people regularly lose their property in Lagos State, I bet you have NOTHING to say about that.

Noooo, the USA is the prime concern. That's rich.

I understand you very well. The United States of America is the ONLY nation on earth with a LIMITED GOVERNMENT. The task of every US citizen should be the survival of our Republic as such and also to EXPAND our freedoms. We have to ELIMINATE property taxes and ABOLISH the Federal Reserve and replace fiat currency with real money.

Racist and sexist propaganda driven by SOCIALIST GREED has zero effect on me.

Good Luck to Nigerians.
There was no open border policy. This renders all your ranting here moot.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IbeOkehie: 10:27am On Jan 25
Maeve7:
There was no open border policy. This renders all your ranting here moot.
Yes there was and I understand why you would claim otherwise.

The USA...and most Western nations....have an illegal immigration crises. Everyone knows it, regardless of the cause.

All ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS must go, whatever the methods, however it has to be done, it must be done.

Add to that, Black Americans MUST be protected from the consequences of illegal immigration in the USA.

Good Luck to Nigerians.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 10:29am On Jan 25
Just find a group they can hate. That’s what happens when m0r0ns refuse to learn from history.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IbeOkehie: 10:34am On Jan 25
GloriousGbola:
make it make sense please

A nigerian living abroad is calling other nigerian immigrants thieves and despoilers
This is how it makes sense, but I know you don't care.

Black Americans in Chicago had their property taxes DOUBLED to pay benefits for ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDtGnPqoWw0

Good Luck to Nigerians
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GloriousGbola: 10:41am On Jan 25
IbeOkehie:
Igbo people lost their lives trying to vote in the last elections in Lagos State...I bet you had NOTHING to say about that.

Good Luck to Nigerians.
wow wow wow

for your information mr tribal wailer - i live and work in lagos

care to give us the actual DETAILS of ibo people who lost their lives in the last election? or is this a fact you pulled out of your rear end?



Igbo people regularly lose their property in Lagos State, I bet you have NOTHING to say about that.

for your information multiple people regularly lose their property in lagos. i worked as an engineer for a oil company with mulktiple stations in lagos state. Everytime, LASG expands a road - people lose property.

Simple example at maryland junction, there was a mobil. and oando and a conoil station. these stations were literally bringing in billions yearly. well, LASG has taken over the area and converted it to a bus terminal

when lasg expanded lagos badagry expressway they took over 10 metres on each side of the road

right now there is a plan to expand lekki epe expressway. i am currently working on a project there where we are discussing how much land will be lost

no one is crying about being victimized. but you, a so called proponent of law and order, are wailing about actual development. i am sure you also defend building on water ways and bypassing normal process

for a so called law and order advocate, you are really whiny about people who get into trouble for breaking the law.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GloriousGbola: 10:43am On Jan 25
IbeOkehie:
This is how it makes sense, but I know you don't care.

Black Americans in Chicago had their property taxes DOUBLED to pay benefits for ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDtGnPqoWw0

Good Luck to Nigerians
are you a black american, a foundational american, or an immigrant despoling and stealing jobs from the real Americans?

why don't you put your money where your mouth is and come to nigeria? why are you stealing a job that a black american or a white american can do?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IbeOkehie: 10:45am On Jan 25
GloriousGbola:
wow wow wow


for your information mr trioabl wailer - i live and work in lagos

care to give us the actual DETAILS of ibo people who lost their lives in the last election? or is this a fact you pulled out of your rear end?

Igbo people regularly lose their property in Lagos State, I bet you have NOTHING to say about that.

for your information multiple people regularly lose their property in lagos. i worked as an engineer for a oil company with mulktiple stations in lagos state. Everytime, LASG expands a road - people lose property.

Simple example at maryland junction, there was a mobil. and oando and a conoil station. these stations were literally bringing in billions yearly. well, LASG has taken over the area and converted it to a bus terminal

when lasg expanded lagos badagry expressway they took over 10 metres on each side of the road

right now there is a plan to expand lekki epe expressway. i am currently working on a project there where we are discussing how much land will be lost

no one is crying about being victimized. but you, a so called proponent of law and order, are wailing about actual development. i am sure you also defend building on water ways and bypassing normal process

for a so called law and order advocate, you are really whiny about people who get into trouble for breaking the law.
Even if I tell you, you will just wave it off and shout LIES.

OK, I specified Lagos because I suspect you're Yoruba.

You live in Nigeria. Good. Have you heard of the Apo 6 that were murdered in Abuja? Did you protest against the government for that?

My initial instinct was right...you're not to be taken seriously. Leave White people alone and face your Black African rulers in the country you've chosen to live in.

Good Luck to Nigerians.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 10:50am On Jan 25
The party of “law and order” hired a bunch of goons to enforce their project 2025 agenda for them
BREAKING: ICE Officer admits to raping woman in custody for months in exchange for seeing her daughter

Prosecutors say he would bring the victim letters and pictures of her daughter, along with food and other gifts, which is against ICE rules.

David is said to have hired lookouts while he raped the woman in a janitorial closet. Initially, David denied the accusations before confessing during an interview in September.

He was released on a $10,000 bond and will be sentenced on April 10* where his charge carries a maximum of 15 years in prison and a fine of up to $250,000.

David Courvelle, 56, pled guilty to sexually assaulting a Nicaraguan woman over the course of several months at a Louisiana ICE detention facility.

This isn't an isolated case. It's just the only one caught so far.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 10:51am On Jan 25
Maeve7:
Just find a group they can hate. That’s what happens when m0r0ns refuse to learn from history.
And we have to live with them while they drag us down with them 🥲
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GloriousGbola: 10:53am On Jan 25
IbeOkehie:
Even if I tell you, you will just wave it off and shout LIES.

OK, I specified Lagos because I suspect you're Yoruba.

You live in Nigeria. Good. Have you heard of the Apo 6 that were murdered in Abuja? Did you protest against the government for that?

My initial instinct was right...you're not to be taken seriously. Leave White people alone and face your Black African rulers in the country you've chosen to live in.

Good Luck to Nigerians.
now you are crashing out and running all over the place.

you first claimed ibos were killed in 2023 elections in lagos. when i called you out on that you deflected to an extra judicial killing in ABUJA in 2005 - over 25 years ago.

a killing where the police were arrested and jailed

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-39219494
Two former policemen in Nigeria have been sentenced to death over the most infamous case of extrajudicial killing in the country's modern history.

Ezekiel Achejene and Emmanuel Baba were convicted of murdering two of the Apo Six - six young civilians who were shot dead in 2005.
imagine that - in a case covered up by police, in a time when there were no mobile phones, and the killers were still jailed

if nigerians were like you they would have found ways to defend the actions of the police.

yet here you are defending an extrajudical killing caught on camera.



in 2010 when gej was being caged by turais cabinet nigerians marched until the doctrine of necessity was invoked and he was sworn in. if nigerians were like you - who knows, maybe turai yardua would be president today. since in the regime you are celebrating protesting is against law and order
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GloriousGbola: 11:00am On Jan 25
cococandy:
The party of “law and order” hired a bunch of goons to enforce their project 2025 agenda for them
no difference between them and nigerian police.
good luck to nigerians indeed
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 11:07am On Jan 25
cococandy:
America is supposedly the land of the free where the republicans argue that we have the right to bear arms and that they are willing to defend that right with their blood and the blood of their school aged children.

Yet they suddenly okay with a legally armed non threatening citizen being summarily executed for a right they’ve claimed for decades that we are entitled to. Just because he doesn’t agree with their dear leader.

May whatever evil you guys support never depart from your lives. Amen
I can't bother engaging with their hypocrisy.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 11:19am On Jan 25
basilico:
I'm.going by the official explanation from.authorities until proven otherwise.
So what is the official explanation?

That Alex (who is an ICU nurse) is a hopeless domestic terrorist and was gonna inflict unexplainable damage to ICE agents with a gun?

From the video we've all watched, what did you see?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 11:24am On Jan 25
GloriousGbola:
no difference between them and nigerian police.
good luck to nigerians indeed
I have said this a thousand times here. Any Nigerian, who migrated to the US to enjoy democracy, but then supports all the madness the Trumps administration is doing has to be a wicked person and a hypocrite..

How can people watch a video and then start to dance around hard evidence? To open thier mouths and condemn straight out murder is so hard..

How is this incident different from when our police force shoots at someone who does not give them 5k on the road? How is ICE different from SARS before the nigerian government disbanded that wicked arm of the NPF?

Its scary what some nigerians support..
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GloriousGbola: 11:29am On Jan 25
bayelsaowei:
I have said this a thousand times here. Any Nigerian, who migrated to the US to enjoy democracy, but then supports all the madness the Trumps administration is doing has to be a wicked person and a hypocrite..

How can people watch a video and then start to dance around hard evidence? To open thier mouths and condemn straight out murder is so hard..

How is this incident different from when our police force shoots at someone who does not give them 5k on the road? How is ICE different from SARS before the nigerian government disbanded that wicked arm of the NPF?

Its scary what some nigerians support..
incidentally, this is EXACTLY how EFCC regularly storms into homes and hotels without a warrant, without alerting occupants. literally jumping fence like armed robbers.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 11:29am On Jan 25
Can we all imagine if there were no videos to cover the incidents we have all witnessed thus far.

Imagine how poor people, helpless folks were murdered before the availability of phones and the Internet..

Even with real time information, government officials decide to tell bare faced lies just to maintain a position.. then Imagine the lack of footages or videos..

IMAGINE!!!!!!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 11:33am On Jan 25
GloriousGbola:
Igbo people regularly lose their property in Lagos State, I bet you have NOTHING to say about that.

for your information multiple people regularly lose their property in lagos.
I lost my house on Enoma off Ago Palace Road.

Lagos State said they needed it for road expansion.

I rented it to a very nice Igbo man.

I am Yoruba.

Just saying.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 11:36am On Jan 25
GloriousGbola:
incidentally, this is EXACTLY how EFCC regularly storms into homes and hotels without a warrant, without alerting occupants. literally jumping fence like armed robbers.
Same modus operandi..

Unprofessional behaviour exhibited by those in authority..and we have nigerians kow towing to such behaviours because a white man and his gang has become god to them..

Someone told me that protesters shouldn't be putting their lives in danger..that they are the cause of their own deaths.. and then I asked, so in simple terms, ICE agents are now the danger that protesters should stay away from? Then how again do they exercise their 1st amendment right?

Like what the heck.. ??!!!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 11:36am On Jan 25
GloriousGbola:
are you a black american, a foundational american, or an immigrant despoling and stealing jobs from the real Americans?
I think this is the second time you've asked, and still he deflects and doesn't answer.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GloriousGbola: 11:39am On Jan 25
budaatum:
I lost my house on Enoma off Ago Palace Road.

Lagos State said they needed it for road expansion.

I rented it to a very nice Igbo man.

I am Yoruba.

Just saying.
any talk about lagos state and property is emotional blackmail

lasbca officals are as corrupt as they come, but even then - they ensure they follow process.

the next story will be they came in the night with no notice.

when LASBCA will drop contravention, contravention, warning before finally dropping demolition notice

ironic that a person who claims to be for law and order is complaining about due process
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GloriousGbola: 11:42am On Jan 25
budaatum:
I think this is the second time you've asked, and still he deflects and doesn't answer.
the woke mind disease has infected him

he is a nigerian immigrant who identifies as a foundational black American
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 11:43am On Jan 25
cococandy:
The party of “law and order” hired a bunch of goons to enforce their project 2025 agenda for them
He maybe pardoned oo...

I just feel pity for the woman..

embarassed
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GloriousGbola: 11:47am On Jan 25
bayelsaowei:
He maybe pardoned oo...

I just feel pity for the woman..

embarassed
it is not a bug - it is a feature.

they are sending a message that anyone in a dictatorship or nation with weak institutions is familiar with

these are our guys and they can do and undo without any consequences
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 11:48am On Jan 25
GloriousGbola:
ironic that a person who claims to be for law and order is complaining about due process
I can't be bothered with him anymore since he's confessed he'd kiss dump's ass whatever crime dump commits.

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