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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 11:53am On Jan 25
GloriousGbola:
the woke mind disease has infected him

he is a nigerian immigrant who identifies as a foundational black American
Oh. So, pretty much like those men who identity as women?

Kind of figures. Like pdfs who identify as non-pdfs until they get caught p.d.ef.in.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 12:02pm On Jan 25
AmazonTopaz:
People who voted for this man even after January 6th have blood on their hands.
Theyve all got to look at the mirror and ask themselves who they really are and what they stand for..

And these are people who claim to be christians..

JAN 6TH offenders did way more than protesters in Minnesota are doing and not one person was shot by a federal agent. Not one!!!!

Due process led those 1500 persons tried and convicted..

Mr Trump came and pardoned them all, with his minions cheering him..only for the same minions to give annoying excuses why Renne Good lost her life and now Alex who is an ICU nurse.. agreeing that those innocent folks are local terrorists..american citizens oooo!!!..

People are becoming mad but dont know it yet. Until they go full blown..
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GloriousGbola: 12:05pm On Jan 25
budaatum:
Oh. So, pretty much like those men who identity as women?

Kind of figures. Like pdfs who identify as non-pdfs until they get caught p.d.ef.in.
actually i am just trolling hm

as he is clearly a nigerian immigrant who is adopting 'foundational black' rhetoric

bizarre
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 12:13pm On Jan 25
GloriousGbola:
actually i am just trolling hm

as he is clearly a nigerian immigrant who is adopting 'foundational black' rhetoric

bizarre
Trolling is indeed what's best done with him as he shouldn't be taken seriously.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 12:23pm On Jan 25
GloriousGbola:
it is not a bug - it is a feature.

they are sending a message that anyone in a dictatorship or nation with weak institutions is familiar with

these are our guys and they can do and undo without any consequences
Exactly

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 1:20pm On Jan 25
cococandy:
And we have to live with them while they drag us down with them 🥲
I was blocked for my reply to this your comment. cheesy
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 1:32pm On Jan 25
bayelsaowei:
So what is the official explanation?

That Alex (who is an ICU nurse) is a hopeless domestic terrorist and was gonna inflict unexplainable damage to ICE agents with a gun?

From the video we've all watched, what did you see?
🚨 THE REAL STORY BEHIND THE VIDEO: While activists are quick to cry "murder," a frame-by-frame analysis of the bystander footage—including the clip captured by the "woman in pink"—reveals a clear, escalating threat that led to the fatal shooting of 37-year-old Alex Jeffrey Pretti.

The narrative being pushed by "ICE Watch" agitators intentionally ignores the series of felonies that preceded the shots.

The Breakdown of the Encounter 🏛️⚖️

Pretti was reportedly in the middle of the street, actively directing traffic through a high-stakes federal enforcement operation—intentionally creating a life-threatening hazard for agents on the ground.

When a federal agent attempted to move him and a woman out of the roadway, a physical struggle ensued. Footage shows the agent pushing the woman as she stumbled in the snow; Pretti then intervened, shoving the agent back.

Under federal law, physical contact with an agent performing their duties is a felony assault. Similar actions at the Capitol have been prosecuted without "defense of others" being allowed as a valid excuse.

As agents moved to restrain and cuff Pretti for the assault, he "violently resisted". It was during this high-intensity scuffle that agents identified a weapon.

Training vs. Narrative 🛡️🚫

As with the Renee Good incident, agents did not draw their firearms until a warning was shouted that a weapon was present. This is standard training: you neutralize the threat once it is identified.

DHS has confirmed that a 9 mm semi-automatic handgun with two loaded magazines was recovered from the scene.

Claiming the suspect was "disarmed" or "helpless" while actively wrestling with multiple agents is a tactical impossibility. If an armed suspect is fighting you, the threat is active until they are secured.

If you're blocking federal operations and shoving agents, you're looking for a fight. Those calling this "murder" are the same people who have opposed immigration enforcement from day one, regardless of the facts.


The lady in pink was recording.Will be interesting what she captured.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 1:46pm On Jan 25
Maeve7:
I was blocked for my reply to this your comment. cheesy
Not surprising for NL these days
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 1:56pm On Jan 25
cococandy:
Not surprising for NL these days
True.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 1:58pm On Jan 25
basilico:
🚨 THE REAL STORY BEHIND THE VIDEO: While activists are quick to cry "murder," a frame-by-frame analysis of the bystander footage—including the clip captured by the "woman in pink"—reveals a clear, escalating threat that led to the fatal shooting of 37-year-old Alex Jeffrey Pretti.

The narrative being pushed by "ICE Watch" agitators intentionally ignores the series of felonies that preceded the shots.

The Breakdown of the Encounter 🏛️⚖️

Pretti was reportedly in the middle of the street, actively directing traffic through a high-stakes federal enforcement operation—intentionally creating a life-threatening hazard for agents on the ground.

When a federal agent attempted to move him and a woman out of the roadway, a physical struggle ensued. Footage shows the agent pushing the woman as she stumbled in the snow; Pretti then intervened, shoving the agent back.

Under federal law, physical contact with an agent performing their duties is a felony assault. Similar actions at the Capitol have been prosecuted without "defense of others" being allowed as a valid excuse.

As agents moved to restrain and cuff Pretti for the assault, he "violently resisted". It was during this high-intensity scuffle that agents identified a weapon.

Training vs. Narrative 🛡️🚫

As with the Renee Good incident, agents did not draw their firearms until a warning was shouted that a weapon was present. This is standard training: you neutralize the threat once it is identified.

DHS has confirmed that a 9 mm semi-automatic handgun with two loaded magazines was recovered from the scene.

Claiming the suspect was "disarmed" or "helpless" while actively wrestling with multiple agents is a tactical impossibility. If an armed suspect is fighting you, the threat is active until they are secured.

If you're blocking federal operations and shoving agents, you're looking for a fight. Those calling this "murder" are the same people who have opposed immigration enforcement from day one, regardless of the facts.


The lady in pink was recording.Will be interesting what she captured.
They had disarmed him and then shot him.
No need for your epistle.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 2:06pm On Jan 25
basilico:
🚨 THE REAL STORY BEHIND THE VIDEO: While activists are quick to cry "murder," a frame-by-frame analysis of the bystander footage—including the clip captured by the "woman in pink"—reveals a clear, escalating threat that led to the fatal shooting of 37-year-old Alex Jeffrey Pretti.

The narrative being pushed by "ICE Watch" agitators intentionally ignores the series of felonies that preceded the shots.

The Breakdown of the Encounter 🏛️⚖️

Pretti was reportedly in the middle of the street, actively directing traffic through a high-stakes federal enforcement operation—intentionally creating a life-threatening hazard for agents on the ground.

When a federal agent attempted to move him and a woman out of the roadway, a physical struggle ensued. Footage shows the agent pushing the woman as she stumbled in the snow; Pretti then intervened, shoving the agent back.

Under federal law, physical contact with an agent performing their duties is a felony assault. Similar actions at the Capitol have been prosecuted without "defense of others" being allowed as a valid excuse.

As agents moved to restrain and cuff Pretti for the assault, he "violently resisted". It was during this high-intensity scuffle that agents identified a weapon.

Training vs. Narrative 🛡️🚫

As with the Renee Good incident, agents did not draw their firearms until a warning was shouted that a weapon was present. This is standard training: you neutralize the threat once it is identified.

DHS has confirmed that a 9 mm semi-automatic handgun with two loaded magazines was recovered from the scene.

Claiming the suspect was "disarmed" or "helpless" while actively wrestling with multiple agents is a tactical impossibility. If an armed suspect is fighting you, the threat is active until they are secured.

If you're blocking federal operations and shoving agents, you're looking for a fight. Those calling this "murder" are the same people who have opposed immigration enforcement from day one, regardless of the facts.


The lady in pink was recording.Will be interesting what she captured.
Allow them to continue encouraging stupid games so they can shout murder. It will not bring the life back and given the same situation with other law enforcement officers, the result may likely be the same with this. It's a stupid thing to do.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 2:23pm On Jan 25
benalvino3:
Progress
Bayelsaowei will not see this. Or he will see it and justify it. Its Trump he will be looking for

Didn't the attorney general text about killing his opponents
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 2:23pm On Jan 25
Christians can't express themselves peacefully in England because of Muslim communities so the police decided to cancel their March for Jesus because the local muslim community will attack them.

Is this not the death of a nation?
Muslims March and wave isis flags all the time and are allowed to do so all the time.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 2:25pm On Jan 25
raumdeuter:
Bayelsaowei will not see this. Or he will see it and justify it. Its Trump he will be looking for

Didn't the attorney general text about killing his opponents
Trump is not involved so he does not care. The only Pedrofile that is not it is Donald Trump.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 2:28pm On Jan 25
Maeve7:
There was no open border policy. This renders all your ranting here moot.
How many people entered the country illegally during the last administration and what should be done about them?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 2:30pm On Jan 25
bayelsaowei:
I have said this a thousand times here. Any Nigerian, who migrated to the US to enjoy democracy, but then supports all the madness the Trumps administration is doing has to be a wicked person and a hypocrite..

How can people watch a video and then start to dance around hard evidence? To open thier mouths and condemn straight out murder is so hard..

How is this incident different from when our police force shoots at someone who does not give them 5k on the road? How is ICE different from SARS before the nigerian government disbanded that wicked arm of the NPF?

Its scary what some nigerians support..
Nigerians who left Nigeria saw the lawlessness they left back home and do not want the US to turn into a banana republic like the one at home due to the democratic party love for lawlessness
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 2:32pm On Jan 25
bayelsaowei:
Same modus operandi..

Unprofessional behaviour exhibited by those in authority..and we have nigerians kow towing to such behaviours because a white man and his gang has become god to them..

Someone told me that protesters shouldn't be putting their lives in danger..that they are the cause of their own deaths.. and then I asked, so in simple terms, ICE agents are now the danger that protesters should stay away from? Then how again do they exercise their 1st amendment right?

Like what the heck.. ??!!!
When you obstruct law enforcement from doing their job, you put your life in danger and make the community less safe for law abiding citizens
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 2:34pm On Jan 25
IbeOkehie:
1) Newsweek is lying. The short version of their biased "fact check" is that the 20 million number can't be proven. OK, we can take that, but we know that A LARGE NUMBER OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS were let into the country by President Biden on DAY ONE of his term, by affirmative Executive Order. This can't be disputed.

Even if 1 single Igbo Nigerian illegal immigrant is in the USA and the government wants to single out that person and deport them, I support it.

2) This one has been all over the news, mentioned multiple times on this thread by multiple commenters, and not one single liberal or progressive person has bothered to share their view. I'm curious about your opinion.

This below is a local news report

https://chicago.suntimes.com/columnists/2025/12/13/south-west-sides-property-taxes-black-home-ownership-alden-loury



Democrats DOUBLED the property taxes in Black neighborhoods to pay for 3rd World immigrants grin grin grin grin

Tax, Tax.....TAX & SPEND....tax the RICH Black Americans and feed the Illegal Immigrants...That's the Democrat Way


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2v9SpM4b0M?si=y_whJJzVTaoRFc8w

Here's a thorough explanation with context.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDtGnPqoWw0

Google Search - https://www.google.com/search?q=chicago+spent+%24600+million+on+illegal+migrants&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS1037US1037&oq=chica&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqCAgAEEUYJxg7MggIABBFGCcYOzINCAEQLhiDARixAxiABDIKCAIQLhixAxiABDISCAMQLhgUGIMBGIcCGLEDGIAEMgYIBBBFGDkyCwgFEEUYJxg7GPAFMgYIBhBFGDwyBggHEEUYPNIBCDIzMjZqMGo0qAIDsAIB8QVNYEeRWdLEEA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Now what?

Good Luck to Nigerians!!!!
The 600m spent by the government of Chicago did not put these citizens in a hotel, they are sleeping in a moving train while illegal migrants sleep in a hotel.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 2:35pm On Jan 25
raumdeuter:
How many people entered the country illegally during the last administration and what should be done about them?
How many innocent people is the pro life and all lives matter party going to kill?

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 2:40pm On Jan 25
Maeve7:
They had disarmed him and then shot him.
No need for your epistle.
It's a copy paste from X.
Do tell us the sequence of events factually without taking sides
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 2:55pm On Jan 25
Maeve7:
How many innocent people is the pro life and all lives matter party going to kill?
Unfortunate that he died. You are less likely to die in such circumstance if you dont go to a protest and confront law enforcement doing their jobs.

When you are protesting, do it legally. Going to fight peiple with a gun is likely to end badly

You see its not that difficult
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 2:57pm On Jan 25
basilico:
It's a copy paste from X.
Do tell us the sequence of events factually without taking sides
No need to. There are videos. Different angles. But keep watching for X posts to confirm your bias.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 3:03pm On Jan 25
raumdeuter:
Unfortunate that he died. You are less likely to die in such circumstance if you dont go to a protest and confront law enforcement doing their jobs.

When you are protesting, do it legally. Going to fight peiple with a gun is likely to end badly

You see its not that difficult
So ICE thugs can execute people now if they protest? And you wonder why we call you and your ilk fascists.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 3:04pm On Jan 25
Maeve7:
So ICE thugs can execute people now if they protest? And you wonder why we call you and your ilk fascists.
If you attack armed law enforcement you are likely to trigger such situation. Its basic common sense

When you protest, stay away from law enforcement
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IbeOkehie: 3:05pm On Jan 25
raumdeuter:
If you attack armed law enforcement you are likely to trigger such situation. Its basic common sense

When you protest, stay away from law enforcement
Good on you for being charitable.

This man went out to obstruct and protest against police, armed with a gun and refused to follow orders! That's wrong and unsafe. There's States where it's ILLEGAL to take a gun to a political protest.

How did ANYONE expect it will end? And the rationale is to defend ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS?

That man did his family and patients a grave disservice. An experienced ICU nurse is a community asset. He should be alive and at work, not serving as an inspiration for political agitation and riots. It's a damn shame🙄

The advice is simple all around - OBEY THE LAW.

Good Luck to Nigerians.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 3:18pm On Jan 25
raumdeuter:
If you attack armed law enforcement you are likely to trigger such situation. Its basic common sense

When you protest, stay away from law enforcement
Law enforcement is required to uphold the law and preserve life, not murder innocent disarmed citizens and not act as judge, jury and executioner. Separation of powers is an indispensable element of democracy. You don’t have to be Einstein to understand it but fascist to deny it.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 3:22pm On Jan 25
IbeOkehie:
Good on you for being charitable.

This man went out to obstruct and protest against police, armed with a gun and refused to follow orders! That's wrong and unsafe. There's States where it's ILLEGAL to take a gun to a political protest.
How did ANYONE expect it will end? And the rationale is to defend ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS?
That man did his family and patients a grave disservice. An experienced ICU nurse is a community asset. He should be alive and at work, not serving as an inspiration for political agitation and riots. It's a damn shame🙄
The advice is simple all around - OBEY THE LAW.
Good Luck to Nigerians.
The left are usually emotional and rarely logical

You do not obstruct law enforcement doing their jobs don't interfere with their operations unless they request your help.

Actions have consequences. We tell children and adults to make good choices daily.

He injected himself into a scene of law enforcement without being invited

The basic rule of life is that actions have consequences try your best not to make actions that can take your life like interfering with a law enforcement effort
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Freshandfitpod: 3:22pm On Jan 25
"If you're blocking federal operations and shoving agents, you're looking for a fight."

It not that difficult to understand. Anything your eye see make you take am like that, he is not a baby.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 3:23pm On Jan 25
Tribute from people who were personally impacted by the life of Alex. He was on a level of manhood that neither Trump nor any of his depraved follower could have ever achieved. Even in a hundred lifetimes.

The video was shared by a son of the deceased veteran—

"RIP Alex Pretti, he was my Dads ICU nurse, he read my dad’s final salute at the VA after he passed away," the individual wrote. "Never wanted to share this video but his speech is very on point. Also my Fathers final words to me was continue to fight the good fight. He would be honored in Alex’ sacrifice, and ashamed of this current administration. In my Dads words I encourage you all to continue to ‘fight the good fight’”

In the video, Pretti leads a group of hospital staff in honoring the veteran, who is covered with a shroud emblazoned with the American flag and a bald eagle.

"Today we remember that freedom is not free, we have to work at it, nurture it, protect it, and even sacrifice for it," Pretti said. "May we never forget and always remember our brothers and sisters who have served so that we may enjoy the gift of freedom.

"So in this moment, we remember and give thanks for their dedication and selfless service to our nation in the cause of our freedom. In this solemn hour, we render them our honor and our gratitude," he said.

Tragically, Pretti's powerful words now reflect on his own death. He sacrificed himself fighting for our freedom.

Freedom from masked fascists harassing, beating, and killing upstanding Americans in our streets.

Freedom from a government that lies through its teeth and smears innocent victims before their bodies are even in the ground.

Freedom from a tyrannical government that would rather divide us and keep us in fear than build towards a brighter future.

Freedom from MAGA.

Alex Pretti was the best that this country has to offer and he was cut down by the absolute dregs of our society. These federal agents are undertrained, out of shape, low IQ thugs who couldn't find jobs in the real world so they signed up for a badge, gun, and paycheck to terrorize their neighbors. These are cruel, violent people who stand in opposition to everything that Pretti dedicated his life to.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 3:26pm On Jan 25
Maeve7:
Law enforcement is required to uphold the law and preserve life, not murder innocent disarmed citizens and not act as judge, jury and executioner. Separation of powers is an indispensable element of democracy. You don’t have to be Einstein to understand it but fascist to deny it.
Law enforcement can only do their work effectively when the populace do not interfere with their job

The citizen cannot decide that law enforcementis wrong and next stop them from doing their work.

You do not have to be Einstein to know you don't interfere and obstruct law enforcement
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