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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 3:27pm On Jan 25 |
cococandy:The depravity of Trump’s followers and disregard for human life is depressing.
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 3:29pm On Jan 25 |
raumdeuter:Even if you were factually right, which you are not, NONE OF THIS GIVES ICE THE RIGHT TO EXECUTE CITIZENS. Is this so hard to understand for you?
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by chopnaira: 3:37pm On Jan 25 |
What's going on in America?
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 3:38pm On Jan 25 |
Maeve7:Even though you are wrong NONE OF THESE GIVES CITIZENS THE RIGHT TO OBSTRUCT LAW ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITIES Is this so hard for you to understand? Responsibility is a 2 sided thing, you cant chose to be irresponsible and now demand the other person to be How about this. BOTH PARTIES SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE. Dont obstruct ICE and ICE dont shoot |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 3:41pm On Jan 25 |
raumdeuter:Even if someone obstructs, which he didn’t, they don’t have the right to execute him. Simple enough or too long a sentence? |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 3:44pm On Jan 25 |
Maeve7:Not even surprised. I knew who they were before everything got to this stage. I’m happy my intuition has never led me wrong (in most cases). Nothing can surprise me about anyone who’s ready to vote away their own rights and their children’s future so that they can hurt the people they hate. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 3:45pm On Jan 25 |
chopnaira:nothing that we didn’t warn them would happen |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 3:55pm On Jan 25 |
cococandy:My comfort is that the pendulum is going to swing sooner or later. I wish that some of the people on here will be deported to live in Iran or Afghanistan. They don’t deserve to live in a democracy. In fact, they are a danger to it. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 3:58pm On Jan 25 |
Maeve7:Court and investigators should decide that. To cook an egusi soup you have to bring in various ingredients. Whether shoot is right or wrong is not the main issue here. The main issues are coming from people who think it is a good idea to go into a scuffle with this guys especially with a gun or driving a car towards them. That's them bringing all the ingredients to their own death. I will say it again and again, it is stupid or suicidal to be confronting law enforcement officers with a weapon on you. If they approach you, remain calm, talk politely and tell them first and foremost that there is a weapon on you and where it is. Not doing that may escalate tensions and a life might be taken. ICE has arrested many people protesting, just as they did with this guy that was sadly shot, the difference is those guys are alive because they did not go into that scuffle with a weapon. When you go with a weapon, the situation becomes more dangerous for everyone involved. 5 days ago before the death of this man - GET A GUN AND SHOOT ICE AGENTS
RUN ICE OVER WITH YOUR CAR Jan 13 https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/2011227732894761104 PEOPLE WHO HATES 2ND A SAYS ITS THE ONLY THING THAT'S GONNA KEEP THEM PROTECTED
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 4:04pm On Jan 25 |
We do not allow bigots to go on fascist marches provoking people even if they label it as Jesus because we know Jesus would not condone such hatred. https://www.gbnews.com/news/london-news-met-police-bans-ukip-march-muslim-community-whitechapel-tower-hamlets
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 4:04pm On Jan 25 |
benalvino3:The main issue here is that a man who was posing no danger was shot ten times. Now eff off.
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 4:10pm On Jan 25 |
Maeve7:No one knows that. Look, 5 to 6 months ago I predicted this when people were shooting at ICE. I have been pleading with people not to get confrontational, because it will only escalate the situation. ICE is now moving with guns because of their past experience. Anyone encouraging these people to go and die for nothing does not have the moral high ground. I don't like what I see, if ice is doing something wrong or kidnapping people, local police will stop and arrest them or the court will make a judgment on that but when politicians encourage people to take bullets for nothing, that's just sad and these people are easily fooled. Stay safe, care for your families, and don't risk your life for nothing. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 4:11pm On Jan 25 |
Examples of obstructions of law enforcement: - providing false information - evading or fleeing from police - destruction of evidence - perjury According to high IQ Raumdeuter, this gives law enforcement the right to execute citizens without due process. Why not shoot people for crossing the street on red lights? Or someone stealing a pack of cigarettes? Or someone speeding? Death penalty for all. No due process necessary. MAGA fascism |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 4:12pm On Jan 25 |
Maeve7:ICE was dealing with a lady and he injected himself into it. You dont have a right to inject yourself into law enforcement work Simple |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 4:13pm On Jan 25 |
raumdeuter:Injection doesn’t warrant a death penalty. Still too difficult? |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 4:14pm On Jan 25 |
Maeve7:This man went to confront and obstruct ICE work, If he was posting on the roadside like the others he would be alive today Seems there is something about leftist and personal responsibilities. You need to take responsiblity and act legally |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 4:14pm On Jan 25 |
Maeve7:Don't start an illegal act, Is that too much to ask for? |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 4:17pm On Jan 25 |
benalvino3:The "I was pleading with people" had me LOL. You should google the words double ignorance. It’s an interesting concept that aptly describes the quality of your comments. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 4:19pm On Jan 25 |
raumdeuter:Says the worshipper of felon 47 who pardoned the Jan 6 thugs ![]() |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 4:19pm On Jan 25 |
raumdeuter:Don’t go around supporting murderers. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 4:21pm On Jan 25 |
Maeve7:It is legal for the president to pardon convicted criminals like every president did Maeve7:Don't go around supporting law breakers, If you don't break laws it will be easier to stay alive. It is simple. You cannot face oncoming traffic and be asking if its right to get hit |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 4:22pm On Jan 25 |
raumdeuter:If you don’t support fascists and murderers, innocent people won’t die. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 4:25pm On Jan 25 |
Maeve7:Well, there is nothing ignorant in asking people not the be confrontational with ICE. If you believe in what that guy did so much, you will put yourself in that boat and do what he did. ICE killed him can be something bad, but he is dead because of his decision to do something stupid. If ICE is going around shooting people who are just recording what is happening its a different case. So whether you think what I said is double or triple ignorance, then do what this guy did in Nigeria, UK or the US let's see how it plays out. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 4:27pm On Jan 25 |
The difference is that Nazi Germany didn’t have countless books and internet resources to know how it was going to end.
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 4:28pm On Jan 25 |
Maeve7:If you dont obstruct law enforcement, your chances of getting shot will reduce |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 4:48pm On Jan 25 |
raumdeuter:Maeve7 will shout double ignorance even if she does not know how or when to use concepts like that. My post she responded to is against escalation/confrontation with ICE (predicting it leads to armed responses and danger) - what's ignorant about this? That encouraging people (especially protesters or those affected) to go and die for nothing or take bullets lacks moral high ground - Yes, you can't encourage people to risk their lives and be surprised when bad thing happen to them. I mentioned practical alternatives exist: local police/courts can intervene if ICE acts wrongly. My main point prioritizes safety, family, and avoiding pointless risk - what's ignorant about this? I am making a prudential, de-escalatory viewpoint rooted in observed patterns (past shootings at ICE, agents now arming more heavily as a result). I don't claim to have deep expertise on immigration law or systemic injustice it's more of - don't throw your life away over this advice. What's wrong with caring/wary realism? So help me ask Maeve7 which part of my post her double ignorance philosophy describes? |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 4:52pm On Jan 25 |
Maeve7:You are arguing with a deranged and damaged soul... |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 4:56pm On Jan 25 |
raumdeuter:So boom..death sentence.. thats the penalty for what you just explained.. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 4:58pm On Jan 25 |
Freshandfitpod:You may want to keep your Nigerian sense of Justice in Nigeria. This is the USA. Your post is unAmerican. The police are not the judge, jury and executioner. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 4:58pm On Jan 25 |
bayelsaowei:And the victim of systemic educational neglect. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 5:00pm On Jan 25 |
raumdeuter:Don’t vote for fascist or blood will be on your hands. |
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