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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by elyte89: 5:36pm On Jan 25
Karlovych:
Well Togo tried it in 2003 before Keshi dropped them a year later.
Oga why u Dey confuse us on dis issue ,stay one place na …na u say fifa won’t intervene in how Dey interpret deir constitution,in anoda argument,u re bringing out proofs on cases fifa had to intervene to prevent “player shopping” from oda countries …e be like say u go need follow dt lady advice o 😎
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Bossoflife25: 5:40pm On Jan 25
Happy fore Awoniyi!! He is back scoring again!

Aina is back too.

Make FIFA disqualify DRC asap!

Boys are readyyy!!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Bossoflife25: 5:44pm On Jan 25
I am shocked no one is talking about Awoniyi's wonder goal today!!
Bossoflife25:
Happy fore Awoniyi!! He is back scoring again!

Aina is back too.

Make FIFA disqualify DRC asap!

Boys are readyyy!!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Goke7: 5:44pm On Jan 25
TheSuperNerd:
Chidozie Awaziem assist 🅰️

He assisted Egypt's Mostafa Mohamed.

All these Afcon connections sef.
Our players are really in form, my God. It's strange, and unfortunately, no close tournament in sight!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mujtahida: 5:46pm On Jan 25
Joebie:
Age is universal. Citizenship is situational. if you say by your own laws they are not citizens and country said we approved their citizenship as a special case. there is no argument based on FIFA laws, as the country is the authority
The onus is on Congo to prove that it gave the players a special dispensation. And there's none. Passport cannot override law.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by elyte89: 5:47pm On Jan 25
Goke7:
Our players are really in form, my God. It's strange, and unfortunately, no close tournament in sight!
2026 World Cup …Mr man 🤨🤨🤨
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Goke7: 5:47pm On Jan 25
Karlovych:
DR Congo issued passports to those players because their parents are Congolese, I wonder where Qatar and Bahrain will get South Americans with parents with Qatari and Bahrain origin.
grin you've not seen anything, let FIFA just rule in Congo's favour first. FIFA sef, their eye go first blurr!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Goke7: 5:48pm On Jan 25
elyte89:
2026 World Cup …Mr man 🤨🤨🤨
ok o! your faith pass my own smiley
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mujtahida: 5:50pm On Jan 25
Joebie:
That is the question to the country o. By their laws they shouldn't be
It's not a question for the country because others are now involved - Nigeria, FIFA.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by comodo: 5:51pm On Jan 25
Bossoflife25:
I am shocked no one is talking about Awoniyi's wonder goal today!!
We don talk am finish pass
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Goke7: 5:52pm On Jan 25
Karlovych:
Well Togo tried it in 2003 before Keshi dropped them a year later.
grin Something from over 20 years ago, the likes of Cape Verde haven't got the memo then, but today they are in the World Cup, courtesy of such kind of players
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mujtahida: 5:53pm On Jan 25
Karlovych:
DR Congo issued passports to those players because their parents are Congolese, I wonder where Qatar and Bahrain will get South Americans with parents with Qatari and Bahrain origin.
Citizenship is based not only on blood but on naturalization. So yes if Qatar has such laws and I think they do, then nothing stops them from giving citizenship to people and constituting them into a team.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by SymphonyRad: 5:56pm On Jan 25
FIFA need to hurry up and kick out DR Congo abeg, our boys are too hot in form not to make this world cup especially under Chelle, even if we qualify by backdoor runs I don't care anymore, you can't shame the shameless grin grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Karlovych: 5:58pm On Jan 25
elyte89:
Oga why u Dey confuse us on dis issue ,stay one place na …na u say fifa won’t intervene in how Dey interpret deir constitution,in anoda argument,u re bringing out proofs on cases fifa had to intervene to prevent “player shopping” from oda countries …e be like say u go need follow dt lady advice o 😎
Stop confusing yourself, your assertion is that Congo called up ineligible players whereas their parents are Congolese and as such eligible under FIFA rules and got approval from FIFA to switch.

The Brazilians Togo called up on the other hand, had no Togolese parentage and didn't meet the residence requirements even though they held the passports, hence the problem
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Karlovych: 5:59pm On Jan 25
Goke7:
grin Something from over 20 years ago, the likes of Cape Verde haven't got the memo then, but today they are in the World Cup, courtesy of such kind of players
Cape Verde is a Portuguese colony and calls up players with Cape Verdean origin largely from their diaspora, their parents are from Cape Verde
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mujtahida: 6:02pm On Jan 25
Joebie:
Age is universal. Citizenship is situational. if you say by your own laws they are not citizens and country said we approved their citizenship as a special case. there is no argument based on FIFA laws, as the country is the authority
You just dey play with words. Grasp analogies please. You are making the point that the fact that DRC issued them passport certifies their citizenship against all rebuttals. And I'm telling you that legally speaking it's not so.

I gave an analogy to say going by your argument the same thing would apply to proof anything just because a document - whatever the name, passport oo, certificate oo is given.

It's not about age. It's about prove. I can as well say draw the same analogy in respect of land, driver's license, birth certificate.

A document is prima facie evidence but once it is challenged, you have to provide more evidence. Abeg oo.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Karlovych: 6:03pm On Jan 25
Mujtahida:
Citizenship is based not only on blood but on naturalization. So yes if Qatar has such laws and I think they do, then nothing stops them from giving citizenship to people and constituting them into a team.
Yes but then they need to meet the 5 year residence requirement according to FIFA rules.

The Malaysia case didn't affect Ezequel Sergio Aguero and Endrick dos Santos Parafita (you can Google their names) who were both born in Argentina and Brazil respectively, who have Malaysian passports and currently play for Malaysia.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by yinkeys(m): 6:05pm On Jan 25
Praise Almighty God
Taiwo Awoniyi’s story is not over
He scored today after how many months
Many people had already written him off
I heard rumour one time Forest might scrap/terminate his contract
Giving up is not an option
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Goke7: 6:07pm On Jan 25
Mujtahida:
Citizenship is based not only on blood but on naturalization. So yes if Qatar has such laws and I think they do, then nothing stops them from giving citizenship to people and constituting them into a team.
You see those Caribbean countries that sell citizenship to anyone for a fee grin na there wahala go begin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 6:09pm On Jan 25
The problem here is how FIFA looks at it. Government is separate from FIFA. So FIFA has to go on to verify, not just relying on the country's laws then assume fraud.

in cases of property laws etc everyone is operating on the same wavelength

Mujtahida:
You just dey play with words. Grasp analogies please. You are making the point that the fact that DRC issued them passport certifies their citizenship against all rebuttals. And I'm telling you that legally speaking it's not so.

I gave an analogy to say going by your argument the same thing would apply to proof anything just because a document - whatever the name, passport oo, certificate oo is given.

It's not about age. It's about prove. I can as well say draw the same analogy in respect of land, driver's license, birth certificate.

A document is prima facie evidence but once it is challenged, you have to provide more evidence. Abeg oo.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mujtahida:
Meliforme:
You talk about me discrediting Eric Chelle, i responded by showing you a post where I highlighted the positives about him. If i can talk about Eric Chelles positives, I also retain the position to talk about his not good parts.

You talked about me discrediting the team (an unfounded and completely false position). I dare you with your conscience (if you have one) to point out a single instance where I talked down on the Super Eagles brand or players. My criticisms always border on player deployments and never on the player. I have stood against people that have talked down on our players calling them average.

What is wrong in positing that our players deserve the best hand.

I was the one who first pointed out Eric Chelle's overreliance on his fullbacks and that is a testament to how sound my interpretation of the game is. My insights are undeniably sound and many of you know it. I studied Eric Chelle's game tactics as every other analyst will do, now the big question that should come is, how will a coach respond when his game pattern has been figured out, what are his other plans.

I criticised the deployment of Raphael Onyedika in a position that has better fits. My stand took validity when Onyedika started losing especially his aerial duels.

I see no wrong criticising a coach that did not convince me.

You will have the same thing to say about me regarding my stand on Austin Eguavoen even after he won all his matches at the group stage of the last AFCON that he oversaw.

It is my love for the Super Eagles brand that engenders me to insist that the Super Eagles deserve nothing but the best.
You see how narrow your thinking is. In your mind now the coach is a robot who does not think, does not reflect. From your point of view, he's learnt nothing. Na you wey dey house sabi everything pass the coach.

What irks many of us about you is not your criticism. It's the fact that it's all supposition and its wearisome given that you have not so much as coached a group of kids.

We went as far as the final in Afcon 23. Peseiro made mistakes and I am certain he learnt from it. What did we do? We let him go. All the lessons he learned, gone. Afterwards chaos ensued leading directly to our not qualifying for the WC.

Yet here you are, a lover of SE sneakily calling for Chelle to be sacked (the man's contract is intact till Jan 27!). You say he should move on. But clearly the man is still interested in the job. So what's the other option if not to sack him. And then we go through the same circle of chaos. Please before putting out ideas, think about the full ramifications. Rohr for all his jaga jaga football, had a five year stint. Giving Chelle some time won't be bad. He's just clocked one year. And definitely there are many areas he needs to improve both in terms of personnel, personnel deployment and tactics.

So it's not about your criticism because you have gone beyond mere criticism and you are suggesting outright sack.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 6:12pm On Jan 25
okay if you think FIFA will decide just by looking at the country's laws, let's wait. I pray you are right though

Mujtahida:
It's not a question for the country because others are now involved - Nigeria, FIFA.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by elyte89: 6:22pm On Jan 25
SymphonyRad:
FIFA need to hurry up and kick out DR Congo abeg, our boys are too hot in form not to make this world cup especially under Chelle, even if we qualify by backdoor runs I don't care anymore, you can't shame the shameless grin grin
Go and look at ur dictionary and look out for the meaning of “backdoor”
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 6:24pm On Jan 25
This man ehn. See if we make it to USCAMEX on the back of winning this DRC case... then Elyte89 must be added to the SE crew. #Elyte4USA26 grin

elyte89:
2026 World Cup …Mr man 🤨🤨🤨
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mujtahida: 6:27pm On Jan 25
Karlovych:
Yes but then they need to meet the 5 year residence requirement according to FIFA rules.

The Malaysia case didn't affect Ezequel Sergio Aguero and Endrick dos Santos Parafita (you can Google their names) who were both born in Argentina and Brazil respectively, who have Malaysian passports and currently play for Malaysia.
Residence permit is permit. It does not mean I must reside in your country for five years at a stretch. Such laws can easily be satisfied. Countries plan to win world cup ten years before they win it.

France did it through the establishment of INF Clairefontaine in 1988 and won the world cup in 1998. Germany set off their own plan in 2006 and won the WC in 2014.

Therefore such rich countries like Qatar can set out such a plan that involves integrating players from other countries into their national team not necessarily to even win the WC but even to compete very well.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mujtahida: 6:31pm On Jan 25
Sugarboyy:
That's the benefit of representing an African country, Nigeria in this case.
If he was a foreign born that choose maybe England over Nigeria and with his Stats before the AFCON, there was no way he would have been invited. Even when you are not doing well in your club, Nigeria NT will always gives you opportunities to reinvent your career.
If a player like Tomori had chosen Nigeria, by now he would have still been a starter in the SE and such would have helped boast his club career
Pikin wey him mama love, dey always get confidence.

That's why Okoye is shaky shaky when he plays for us. He doesn't feel the support of the fans. When a player feels the support of the fans, it's a great booster.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by elyte89: 6:34pm On Jan 25
Mujtahida:
Residence permit is permit. It does not mean I must reside in your country for five years at a stretch. Such laws can easily be satisfied. Countries plan to win world cup ten years before they win it.

France did it through the establishment of INF Clairefontaine in 1988 and won the world cup in 1998. Germany set off their own plan in 2006 and won the WC in 2014.

Therefore such rich countries like Qatar can set out such a plan that involves integrating players from other countries into their national team not necessarily to even win the WC but even to compete very well.
All those five years residence stuff na him
Simple pass for Nigeria 🇳🇬…all na to back date d process with solid documentation 😃😃😃,with 5k person fit run am sef …


Ppu don’t understand dt if dis case doesn’t have any merit …d petition won’t last a week b4 it will be jettisoned …but for FIFA to take deir time, do we think Dey re joking …Dey re definitely investigating and dis Nigeria 🇳🇬/ dr congo case is an eye opener for FIFA ,any mistake or loophole deir decision making will create ,especially if it Favor’s Congo will be used as reference in d future for countries dt will exploit it
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by lbrichman2: 6:35pm On Jan 25
Sugarboyy:
That's the benefit of representing an African country, Nigeria in this case.
If he was a foreign born that choose maybe England over Nigeria and with his Stats before the AFCON, there was no way he would have been invited. Even when you are not doing well in your club, Nigeria NT will always gives you opportunities to reinvent your career.
If a player like Tomori had chosen Nigeria, by now he would have still been a starter in the SE and such would have helped boast his club career
Truth
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by AAA593: 6:36pm On Jan 25
Karlovych:
Stop confusing yourself, your assertion is that Congo called up ineligible players whereas their parents are Congolese and as such eligible under FIFA rules and got approval from FIFA to switch.

The Brazilians Togo called up on the other hand, had no Togolese parentage and didn't meet the residence requirements even though they held the passports, hence the problem
Another angle is age. Those guys are over 21
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mujtahida: 6:37pm On Jan 25
do4luv14:
Greenelf thank you ma Papa don slept taytay,
Again na your Uncle Gasua dey in charge and again, Bayern internship no work cos of funds,

So you go ask ya hancle Gasua how far or whatsup
Two of una dey craze oo. Blueelf call Pinic your papa, you call Gusau him papa. Equation balance
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by lbrichman2: 6:39pm On Jan 25
TheSuperNerd:
Chidozie Awaziem assist 🅰️

He assisted Egypt's Mostafa Mohamed.

All these Afcon connections sef.
See how life be?
That's why we should always strive to live peaceably with all men, as much as possible
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by lbrichman2: 6:39pm On Jan 25
TheSuperNerd:
Taiwo Awoniyi scores!!!

His very first goal of 2025/26.

Brentford 0-2 Nottingham Forrest
Beautiful goal at that
Extremely important for his confidence..
Let's go on a run Awo!!!
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