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MaxInDHouse:
Before his arrest and execution Jesus told his disciples that:

he (Jesus) must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things from the elders and chief priests and scribes and be killed. Matthew 16:21

He warned them not to intervene when the destruction of Jerusalem happens:

“However, when you see Jerusalem surrounded by encamped armies, then know that the desolating of her has drawn near. Then let those in Ju·deʹa begin fleeing to the mountains, let those in the midst of her leave, and let those in the countryside not enter into her,  because these are days for meting out justice in order that all the things written may be fulfilled.  Woe to the pregnant women and those nursing a baby in those days! For there will be great distress on the land and wrath against this people. And they will fall by the edge of the sword and be led captive into all the nations; and Jerusalem will be trampled on by the nations until the appointed times of the nations are fulfilled. Luke 21:20-24

Jesus told his friends that the blood of faithful servants of God from Abel till Zachariah will be asked in the hands of the inhabitants of Jerusalem {Luke 11:49-51} and just as Jesus foretold he was arrested and executed right in Jerusalem where many Jews were telling the Roman governor who wanted to release Jesus:

“To the stake with him!” Matthew 27:23

That day the pagan Roman governor said to the Jews:

“I am innocent of the blood of this man. You yourselves must see to it." Matthew 27:24

This is what the Jews said in response to this pagan ruler:

“Let his blood come upon us and upon our children." Matthew 27:25

So when the Roman armies were leading Jesus to the place where he will be executed he said to women shedding tears for him:

“Daughters of Jerusalem, stop weeping for me. Weep instead for yourselves and for your children; for look! days are coming when people will say, ‘Happy are the barren women, the wombs that did not give birth and the breasts that did not nurse!’  Then they will start saying to the mountains, ‘Fall over us!’ and to the hills, ‘Cover us over!’ If they do these things when the tree is moist, what will occur when it is withered?” Luke 23:28-31

So if anyone still doubts the gospel accounts let such a person bring back the Jews and give them peace as a nation because Jesus said God has condemned that nation! Matthew 21:43

Can you imagine that their children who were brought back to that place after the world wars still want to ban Christianity in Israel today?😟

sonmvayina:
The death of Jesus did not cause the destruction of the temple. it was the dissatisfaction of the Jews towards the cruelty of the Romans. There was no mention of Jesus in the entire first century. Nobody knows anything about the man that is discussed in the Christian gospels. Jesus never existed in history. so the death of a mythical figure can't cause the destruction of a city.
Josephus Never said anything about Jesus, the passage known as TF is a Christian forgery/addition most likely by Eusebius. who was the first to quote from it.

so let

sonmvayina:
Because it is idolatry, Everything God forbids in his laws is what Christianity is built on.....

sonmvayina:
The death of Jesus did not cause the destruction of the temple. it was the dissatisfaction of the Jews towards the cruelty of the Romans. There was no mention of Jesus in the entire first century. Nobody knows anything about the man that is discussed in the Christian gospels. Jesus never existed in history. so the death of a mythical figure can't cause the destruction of a city.
Josephus Never said anything about Jesus, the passage known as TF is a Christian forgery/addition most likely by Eusebius. who was the first to quote from it.

so let

sonmvayina:
Because it is idolatry, Everything God forbids in his laws is what Christianity is built on.....

IbileIfe:
Don't contradict yourself.
You can't accept the existence of God and reject the existence of Jesus Christ.

No egg can hatch if the egg has no yolk.

IbileIfe:
I didn't post it to argue about the theology of the existence of Jesus Christ.
To believe or not to believe is your personal decision and choice.
Surah Al-Baqarah Ayat 256 (2:256 Quran
"There is no compulsion in religion" (Quran 2:256)

MaxInDHouse:
Pẹ̀lẹ́ tìẹ jàre.

I don't have time for your back and forth worthless arguments i'm only seeking honest hearted people not dishonest argumentator like you!😀

Moderator101:
Nah, the jews and the romans never existed too. all historical records of them are fake.

so let

IbileIfe:
➜I didn't post it to argue about the theology of the existence of Jesus Christ. To believe or not to believe is your personal decision and choice.
Surah Al-Baqarah Ayat 256 (2:256 Quran
"There is no compulsion in religion" (Quran 2:256)

256. Let there be no compulsion in religion, for the truth stands out clearly from falsehood.1 So whoever renounces false gods and believes in Allah has certainly grasped the firmest, unfailing hand-hold. And Allah is All-Hearing, All-Knowing.
257. Allah is the Guardian of the believers—He brings them out of darkness and into light. As for the disbelievers, their guardians are false gods who lead them out of light and into darkness. It is they who will be the residents of the Fire. They will be there forever.- Quran 2 vs 256 - 257

IbileIfe:
➜Don't contradict yourself. You can't accept the existence of God and reject the existence of Jesus Christ. No egg can hatch if the egg has no yolk.

sonmvayina:
ok, so you want somebody that will agree with your lies, because the truth makes you uncomfortable.
carry on brother...

sonmvayina:
romans and Jews where real people

Moderator101:
Nope. Fake. Never Existed.

Kobojunkie:
Rubbish Soundbites! In this our internet age, no religion, not even Islam, can survive on lies alone. 🥱🥱🥱

Is it me, or are you Mohammedians just adept at lying to yourselves? God has no religion, yet the same verse you quote specifically states that Allah has a religion and it is Islam, which he gave only to Mohammed, and seems to have everyone else worship since they have to call upon the name of Mohammed to access said religion. 🥱
Right there in the very context of the verse you pretended to quote is the insinuation that the only valid religion is Allah's religion. All those who don't believe in it are condemned to burn in Mohammed's Hell. So, what the heck is with the meaningless soundbites that Islamics now trade? 🥱🥱

IbileIfe:
➜You have met the wrong Muslims with the wrong doctrines.The most honest people I have met were Muslims, including two of my employers,. Hon. Babatunde Ereola and Hajia H. O. Shitta-Bey.
Many erroneous interpretations of the Koran. Prophet Muhammad, SAW was taught by Christians and inspired by the Holy Bible.
Historical facts: Yes, Christian Abyssinians, under the protection of their King, played a pivotal role in supporting Prophet Muhammad (SAW) and the early Muslim community during a time of intense persecution in Mecca.
Here are the key aspects of this historical support based on Islamic tradition:
The First Hijra (Migration) to Abyssinia: In 615 CE, Prophet Muhammad (SAW) advised his followers to flee persecution in Mecca and seek refuge in the Christian Kingdom of Aksum (modern-day Ethiopia and Eritrea). He described the land as "a land of truth governed by a just king who did not mistreat or oppress anyone".
Protection by King Negus (Ashama ibn Abjar): The Christian monarch, known as the Negus (Najashi) or Ashama ibn Abjar, welcomed the Muslim refugees. When the Quraysh sent delegates to demand the return of the Muslims, King Negus listened to both sides and refused to surrender the Muslims, ensuring their safety.
Similar Beliefs on Jesus: During the questioning by the King, Ja'far ibn Abi Talib explained the Islamic view of Jesus as a servant and messenger of God. The King, after hearing this, recognized the shared ground in their faiths, confirming his protection of the Muslims.
Support for the Prophet's Family: King Negus acted as a guardian and representative for the Prophet (SAW) when he married Umm Habibah (Ramla bint Abi Sufyan), who had become a widow while in exile in Abyssinia.
Regard for the Negus: The Prophet (SAW) held King Negus in high esteem, referring to him as a "pious man and a pious servant of Allah". Upon the King's death, the Prophet (SAW) performed the first Salat al-Gha'ib (funeral prayer in absentia) for him.
This historical episode is viewed as a foundational example of inter-religious cooperation, where Christian hospitality provided a safe haven for the nascent Muslim community.

256. Let there be no compulsion in religion, for the truth stands out clearly from falsehood.1 So whoever renounces false gods and believes in Allah has certainly grasped the firmest, unfailing hand-hold. And Allah is All-Hearing, All-Knowing.
257. Allah is the Guardian of the believers—He brings them out of darkness and into light. As for the disbelievers, their guardians are false gods who lead them out of light and into darkness. It is they who will be the residents of the Fire. They will be there forever.- Quran 2 vs 256 - 257

IbileIfe:
Enlightening posts.

Proverbs 11:14
King James Version
14 Where no counsel is, the people fall: but in the multitude of counsellors there is safety.

wellmax:
➜Come wait, did you just say I take out of context passages from the Bible?
➜ You’re all the same. You interpret the Bible to fit a false narrative, and when you’re confronted with facts, the response is always the same: it’s “out of context” or “corrupted.”
➜ May God have mercy on you and open your eyes to the light.

Kobojunkie:
1. Yes, you did that!

2. You applied statements in the book of Kings as claims under Christianity when the Book of Kings belongs instead to the Nation of Israel, of which your religion of Christianity has no part or place in. You applied an interpretation to the book, thereby violating the content and context of the book, creating a falsehood, not a fact.

3. Which God? The same deluded gods of the Christians, who have yet to figure out how many points of division their religion will continue to take? The light of Christianity that has the religion expanding in terms of division and not much else? No thanks! 🥱🥱🥱

wellmax:
➜I already said. You are all the same, you go to the bible, discredit it to prove your false religion. (This is what you have been accusing me of).
Clearly there’s no truth in your book worth referencing. That says a lot. One book belongs to Israel, lolzzzzzz. Which one belongs to America and Nigeria. This people sef. Final OKAY. No headway discussing with you. Only Gods mercy and the light of the gospel can save your soul.

Kobojunkie:
Abeg, carry you religious delusion/crazy rambles enter gutter somewhere. 🥱🥱🥱

wellmax:
Didn’t even noticed. You copied my post from another thread and bring it here. Now readers won’t even understand the flow or how the discussion started. This is called deception!

Moderator101:
Nope. Fake. Never Existed.

sonmvayina:
ok....care to explain

IbileIfe:
Let us pray the Lord's prayer in Aramaic as our Messiah Yeshua prayed.