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BlackfireX:
➜ Yet they will tell you no compulsion yet if you renounce Islam you will be killed or beheaded
What a religion of peace

The key is to go back and read the entire verse in context for yourself. 🥱🥱🥱

In the same verse where they lift the "...no compulsion in religion," nonsense from Mohammed's Allah goes on to claim that only those who cling to him are approved by him, asserting that only his religion is allowed. 🥱🥱

256. Let there be no compulsion in religion, for the truth stands out clearly from falsehood.1 So whoever renounces false gods and believes in Allah has certainly grasped the firmest, unfailing hand-hold. And Allah is All-Hearing, All-Knowing.
257. Allah is the Guardian of the believers—He brings them out of darkness and into light. As for the disbelievers, their guardians are false gods who lead them out of light and into darkness. It is they who will be the residents of the Fire. They will be there forever.- Quran 2 vs 256 - 257

And the next verse, right after that, insists that all those who don't cling to Allah's religion will burn for it. What is that if not compulsion? 🥱🥱

Hussein27:
I won’t gossip about my husband to friends or family.
What happens between us stays between us.

I won’t abuse him—verbally, emotionally, or physically. Respect flows both ways.

I won’t emasculate him, in public or private. Building him up is part of building us.

I won’t weaponize intimacy. Withholding affection as punishment isn’t love—it’s manipulation.

I won’t compare him to other men—brothers, strangers, or social media highlight reels.

I won’t air our problems online. Our marriage doesn’t need an audience.

I won’t disrespect him in front of our children. Unity in parenting is non-negotiable.

I won’t nag him into resentment. I’ll communicate clearly, then trust him to step up.

I won’t dismiss his feelings because they’re expressed differently than mine.

I won’t use his vulnerabilities against him during arguments. Trust is not a weapon.

I won’t make him choose between me and his family unless there is genuine harm—and we pray that never happens.

I won’t keep score. Marriage isn’t a competition.

I won’t stop being the woman he fell in love with just because I got the ring.

I won’t ignore his love language while demanding fluency in mine.

I won’t make major life decisions alone and expect him to simply follow.

Above all, I will choose to be his peace, his partner, and his best girl.

Talk is cheap

AbuTwins:
Islam is the Only Religion That Gave Women Identity
Islam uniquely honors and grants women a clear, dignified identity rooted in divine guidance, setting it apart from Christianity and other faiths.
➜ Islam’s Affirmation of Women’s Identity: #The Qur'an explicitly recognizes women as full moral and spiritual beings with rights and responsibilities. Allah says: “And for women are rights over men similar to those of men over women...” (Qur’an 2:228)

1. Mohammed's first wife was a rich merchant whom Mohammed himself worked for — She was his employer for the better part of his life.🥱🥱

Khadija was a very successful merchant. It is said that when the Quraysh's trade caravan travellers gathered to embark upon their summer journey to Syria or winter journey to Yemen, Khadija's caravan equaled the caravans of all other traders of the Quraysh put together. Khadija was given many honorifics, including 'The Pious One', 'Princess of Quraysh' (Ameerat-Quraysh), and 'Khadija the Great' (Khadija al-Kubra). It is said that she fed and clothed the poor, assisted her relatives financially, and provided marriage portions for poor relations. Khadija was said to have neither believed in nor worshipped idols, which was atypical for pre-Islamic Arabian culture.

Khadija did not travel with her trade caravans; instead, she employed others to trade on her behalf for a commission. Khadija needed a co-worker for a transaction in Syria. She hired young Muhammad, who was in his early twenties at that time, for the trade in Syria, sending word that she would pay to double her usual commission. With the permission of Abu Talib ibn Muttalib, his uncle, Muhammad was sent to Syria with one of Khadija's servants. This caravan experience earned Muhammad the honorifics of al-Sadiq ('the Truthful') and al-Amin ('the Trustworthy'). From Wiki Sources...

She had an identity, status, and wealth to her name before Mohammed showed up in her life. And all this predates Islam and is as recorded in your Quran and Hadiths. Yet, you want us to believe instead that women had no identity of their own before Islam showed up on the horizon? Are you sure you are OK?🥱🥱🥱

2. Are you sure you are OK in the head at all? When they say Islam hates women, these verses are part of what they mean. 🥱🥱

You literally attempted to play us— defraud us yet again— by lifting a line out of context from a passage where Mohammed reveals his beliefs about divorce, how a man can marry the day after a divorce while a woman has to wait 3 months, and how a man is above a woman in decisions regarding divorce and reconciliation, regardless of her so-called equitable rights. For what purpose? To make Islam seem even more shittier or something?

227. But if they settle on divorce, then Allah is indeed All-Hearing, All-Knowing.
228. Divorced women must wait three monthly cycles ˹before they can re-marry˺. It is not lawful for them to conceal what Allah has created in their wombs,1 if they ˹truly˺ believe in Allah and the Last Day. And their husbands reserve the right to take them back within that period if they desire reconciliation. [color=#990099]Women have rights similar to those of men equitably[/color], although men have a degree ˹of responsibility˺ above them. And Allah is Almighty, All-Wise.
229. Divorce may be retracted twice, then the husband must retain ˹his wife˺ with honour or separate ˹from her˺ with grace. It is not lawful for husbands to take back anything of the dowry given to their wives, unless the couple fears not being able to keep within the limits of Allah. 2 So if you fear they will not be able to keep within the limits of Allah, there is no blame if the wife compensates the husband to obtain a divorce. 3 These are the limits set by Allah, so do not transgress them. And whoever transgresses the limits of Allah, they are the ˹true˺ wrongdoers. - Quran 2 vs 227 - 229

WOW.... all one literally has to do is read the Quran and the Hadiths to know that Islam has nothing of value to give women.

BlackfireX:
The way this Muslims lie boldly even with evidences stack against them.


Do you know exploits that women did in the bible? No they don't know.

You will hear Islam is the 1st to gave women right to property... What? I read the old testaments and see women owning property....I look at yoruba culture and I see women owing properties

So yoruba culture predate Islam that means Islam copied from it...


A religion that believes women are half brain and will be trophies in islamicheaven

Their book is book of lies….and it will shock u that most of them dont read it…. Thats why u hear them say the same lies their christian hating imams have told them

Kobojunkie:
Islam isn't hard to know. It is literally based on a book about the life and beliefs of one man multiplied across so many lives, war campaigns, etc., to get to what we have today. All one has to do to learn all one needs to know of Islam is to read the Quran and catch up on the associated back stories contained in the Hadith, which provide a contextual detail to the poetry styled writeups in the Quran

When it comes to Islamic law, the country that most closely represents Mohammed's 7th-century idea of Islam is Afghanistan, which recently introduced the slavery system, just as it existed even back then.

If Islam were truly bad as you claim, over two billion people who practice it would not see goodness in it. What may seem wrong to one person does not define the experience of millions of others. Criticism should come from knowledge and understanding, not from anger or hate. Constructive discussion requires respect, even when we disagree.

tunde1200:
➜If Islam were truly bad as you claim, over two billion people who practice it would not see goodness in it.
➜ What may seem wrong to one person does not define the experience of millions of others.
➜ Criticism should come from knowledge and understanding, not from anger or hate. Constructive discussion requires respect, even when we disagree.

What you are trying to get us to believe is that since Mohammedians currently outbreed other religious groups in the world... Islam's growth each year is 99.7% is primarily attributed to high birth rates among Islamic groups— this invariably translates to Islam being good. Is that what you mean? 🥱

2. That logic only applies in subjective situations, not that which applies to mankind, which Islam continually claims concern for. 🥱🥱

3. Knowledge contained in the Quran and the Hadiths is not worth criticizing Islam on? You don't trust your Quran and Hadiths enough to defend from criticism based on what is contained in them? 🥱🥱

AbuTwins:
[size=12pt][b]Islam is the Only Religion That Gave Women Identity[/]
Islam uniquely honors and grants women a clear, dignified identity rooted in divine guidance, setting it apart from Christianity and other faiths.

[b]Islam’s Affirmation of Women’s Identity:/b]
#The Qur'an explicitly recognizes women as full moral and spiritual beings with rights and responsibilities. Allah says:
“And for women are rights over men similar to those of men over women...” (Qur’an 2:228)

#The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) emphasized respect and kindness toward women, stating:
“The best of you are those who are best to their women.” (Tirmidhi)

#Islam grants women rights to inheritance, education, marriage consent, and economic independence—rights that were revolutionary at the time of revelation.

[b]Comparison with Christianity:b]
#While Christianity preaches spiritual equality, traditional interpretations often placed women in subordinate roles, sometimes limiting their public religious participation. For example, 1 Corinthians 14:34 instructs women to be silent in churches, which has historically been used to restrict women’s roles.

#The Bible’s creation narrative (Genesis 2) has been interpreted by some to imply woman’s secondary status, created from man’s rib, whereas Islam teaches that men and women were created from a single soul:
“O mankind, fear your Lord, who created you from one soul...” (Qur’an 4:1)

#Islam’s legal and social framework actively protects women’s rights and identity, while Christianity’s historical practices often reflected patriarchal cultural norms.

[b]Checking the Christian scriptures you'll never see the input of any woman in the compilation of the Bible! They were all men - Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Paul, Peter, etc! This is too loud![b]

Islam is the only religion that gave women a clear, honored identity with comprehensive rights and dignity from its inception, supported by divine scripture and prophetic teachings. It elevated women’s status spiritually, socially, and legally, ensuring their full humanity and individuality, unlike Christianity’s historical approach which often subordinated women under cultural interpretations.[/sze]

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The claim that Islam is the only religion that gave women identity is historically, biblically, and logically false.

Christianity affirms women’s full identity from its very foundation, not as a later reform. Genesis 1:27 explicitly states that both male and female are created in the image of God, grounding dignity and identity directly in God, not in social role or male mediation. This precedes Islam by centuries. The “rib” narrative in Genesis 2 does not imply inferiority; Jewish and Christian scholars alike have long understood it as a symbol of equality and companionship, not hierarchy.

Jesus’ treatment of women was radically countercultural long before Islam. He taught women publicly (Luke 10:39), engaged them in theology (John 4), defended them against religious abuse (John , included them in His ministry (Luke 8:1–3), and entrusted women as the first witnesses of the resurrection (Matthew 28). In a culture where women’s testimony was legally dismissed, Christianity placed its central truth on female witnesses, something no fabricated religion would do.

The claim that Christianity silences women misuses Scripture. Paul’s instruction in 1 Corinthians 14 is situational, not universal, especially since the same letter assumes women pray and prophesy publicly (1 Corinthians 11:5). Paul also affirms female leaders like Phoebe (Romans 16:1), Junia, “outstanding among the apostles” (Romans 16:7) and Priscilla, a theological teacher (Acts 18:26).

The assertion that women had no input in the Bible is simply false. Deborah was a judge and prophet (Judges 4–5), Huldah a prophet consulted by kings (2 Kings 22:14), Hannah’s prayer shaped Israel’s theology (1 Samuel 2), and Mary’s Magnificat (Luke 1:46–55) stands as one of Scripture’s most powerful theological declarations.

Islam did grant women important legal protections in 7th-century Arabia, and that should be acknowledged. But legal reform is not the same as ontological identity. Christianity goes deeper, declaring:
“There is neither male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus” (Galatians 3:28) a statement made 600 years before Islam.

What Christianity teaches is not merely rights, but equal worth, shared inheritance, and full spiritual agency before God. Historical abuses of women reflect cultural failures, not Christian doctrine itself, something Christianity openly critiques from within.

Islam did not uniquely give women identity.
Christianity grounded women’s identity in the image of God, affirmed by Christ Himself, from the very beginning.

See how Chrisrianity is defended with christiantyand the bible. I do not need to refer to any fake books or gods/ false prophets to defend my relifgion, the bible is complete and true in everything.

wellmax:
➜The claim that Islam is the only religion that gave women identity is historically, biblically, and logically false.
Christianity affirms women’s full identity from its very foundation, not as a later reform. Genesis 1:27 explicitly states that both male and female are created in the image of God, grounding dignity and identity directly in God, not in social role or male mediation. This precedes Islam by centuries. The “rib” narrative in Genesis 2 does not imply inferiority; Jewish and Christian scholars alike have long understood it as a symbol of equality and companionship, not hierarchy.
Jesus’ treatment of women was radically countercultural long before Islam. He taught women publicly (Luke 10:39), engaged them in theology (John 4), defended them against religious abuse (John , included them in His ministry (Luke 8:1–3), and entrusted women as the first witnesses of the resurrection (Matthew 28). In a culture where women’s testimony was legally dismissed, Christianity placed its central truth on female witnesses, something no fabricated religion would do.
The claim that Christianity silences women misuses Scripture. Paul’s instruction in 1 Corinthians 14 is situational, not universal, especially since the same letter assumes women pray and prophesy publicly (1 Corinthians 11:5). Paul also affirms female leaders like Phoebe (Romans 16:1), Junia, “outstanding among the apostles” (Romans 16:7) and Priscilla, a theological teacher (Acts 18:26).
The assertion that women had no input in the Bible is simply false. Deborah was a judge and prophet (Judges 4–5), Huldah a prophet consulted by kings (2 Kings 22:14), Hannah’s prayer shaped Israel’s theology (1 Samuel 2), and Mary’s Magnificat (Luke 1:46–55) stands as one of Scripture’s most powerful theological declarations.
Islam did grant women important legal protections in 7th-century Arabia, and that should be acknowledged. But legal reform is not the same as ontological identity. Christianity goes deeper, declaring:
“There is neither male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus” (Galatians 3:28) a statement made 600 years before Islam.
What Christianity teaches is not merely rights, but equal worth, shared inheritance, and full spiritual agency before God. Historical abuses of women reflect cultural failures, not Christian doctrine itself, something Christianity openly critiques from within.
Islam did not uniquely give women identity. Christianity grounded women’s identity in the image of God, affirmed by Christ Himself, from the very beginning.
See how Chrisrianity is defended with chrittiany and the bible. I do not need to refer to any fake books or dfake gods/ false prophets to defend my relifgion, the bible is complete and true in everything.

Please, do not attempt to reduce this to some dumb "My religion is better than your religion" debate. Keep your religion to the Christian section, where we can go and rake it after we are done raking through with Islam alone in the Islam section. 🥱🥱🥱

Kobojunkie:
Please, do not attempt to reduce this to some dumb "My religion is better than your religion" debate. Keep your religion to the Christian section, where we can go and rake it after we are done raking through with Islam alone in the Islam section. 🥱🥱🥱

Nobody said which is better, thats not even up for debate. I only encourage you/him to quote from your/his book and leave the bible alone

AbuTwins:
Islam is the Only Religion That Gave Women Identity
Islam uniquely honors and grants women a clear, dignified identity rooted in divine guidance, setting it apart from Christianity and other faiths.

Islam’s Affirmation of Women’s Identity:
#The Qur'an explicitly recognizes women as full moral and spiritual beings with rights and responsibilities. Allah says:
“And for women are rights over men similar to those of men over women...” (Qur’an 2:228)

#The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) emphasized respect and kindness toward women, stating:
“The best of you are those who are best to their women.” (Tirmidhi)

#Islam grants women rights to inheritance, education, marriage consent, and economic independence—rights that were revolutionary at the time of revelation.

Comparison with Christianity:
#While Christianity preaches spiritual equality, traditional interpretations often placed women in subordinate roles, sometimes limiting their public religious participation. For example, 1 Corinthians 14:34 instructs women to be silent in churches, which has historically been used to restrict women’s roles.

#The Bible’s creation narrative (Genesis 2) has been interpreted by some to imply woman’s secondary status, created from man’s rib, whereas Islam teaches that men and women were created from a single soul:
“O mankind, fear your Lord, who created you from one soul...” (Qur’an 4:1)

#Islam’s legal and social framework actively protects women’s rights and identity, while Christianity’s historical practices often reflected patriarchal cultural norms.

Checking the Christian scriptures you'll never see the input of any woman in the compilation of the Bible! They were all men - Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Paul, Peter, etc! This is too loud!

Islam is the only religion that gave women a clear, honored identity with comprehensive rights and dignity from its inception, supported by divine scripture and prophetic teachings. It elevated women’s status spiritually, socially, and legally, ensuring their full humanity and individuality, unlike Christianity’s historical approach which often subordinated women under cultural interpretations.

You're talking theory. The reality is different

wellmax:
➜Nobody said which is better, thats not even up for debate. I only encourage you/him to quote from your/his book and leave the bible alone

You literally attempted arguing against Islam by claiming Christianity— yet another anti-Torah-and-Injeel religion — is better, and now you deny this? Are you sure you are OK? 🥱🥱🥱

Taquiya which Islam gives women identity?

Kobojunkie:
You literally attempted arguing against Islam by claiming Christianity— yet another anti-Torah-and-Injeel religion — is better, and now you deny this? Are you sure you are OK? 🥱🥱🥱

Yes I am okay.

I was only refuting the false narrative presented by your colleague. Read his comment carefully and ask yourself whether your response to me is actually supposed to be addressed to him. Frankly, he’s fortunate I wasn’t here earlier to challenge those intentonal misinterpretations directly.

wellmax:
➜Yes I am okay.I was only refuting the false narrative presented by your colleague.
➜ Read his comment carefully and ask yourself whether your response to me is actually supposed to be addressed to him. Frankly, he’s fortunate I wasn’t here earlier to challenge those intentonal misinterpretations directly.

You were literally trying to sell Christianity by taking out of context passages from books contained in your book called the Bible.

2. I read his comment and literally took him back to the actual claims made in his Quran, where the refutations of every claim literally come from. No need to drag your denomination into this to make it a "My Christian denomination is better than your Christian denomination battle," — useless and pointless. (Yes, Islam closely resembles many of the denominations within the religion of Christianity and could be argued as being just another one of the 10s of 1000s of denominations that make up the religion of Christianity.)

Kobojunkie:
You were literally trying to sell Christianity by taking out of context passages from books contained in your book called the Bible.

No. I was addressing and disproving the deliberate misinterpretation presented by your colleague or possibly by you under another moniker. The original post was good, but you attempted to shift the whole discussion it into a flawed logical argument by selectively quoting the Bible. Your biblical interpretation is incorrect, and I have simply called that out.

2. I read his comment and literally took him back to the actual claims made in his Quran, where the refutations of every claim literally come from. No need to drag your denomination into this to make it a "[i]My Christian denomination is better than your Christian denomination battle,[i]" — useless and pointless. [i]([b]Yes, Islam closely resembles many of the denominations within the religion of Christianity and could be argued as being just another one of the 10s of 1000s of denominations that make up the religion of Christianity.

If you’ve called him out, then good. I didn’t want to read any more from him anyway and did not bother reading throught the thread. I’d rather not pollute my mind this evening.

To be clear, I’m not attacking any denomination or religion. I’m simply correcting what he said, because he quoted the Bible inaccurately to suit his own purpose. And I hold trhe general public a duty to put things right before he makes "the weak to fall".

Kobojunkie:
You were literally trying to sell Christianity by taking out of context passages from books contained in your book called the Bible.

Come wait, did you just say I take out of context passages from the Bible? You’re all the same. You interpret the Bible to fit a false narrative, and when you’re confronted with facts, the response is always the same: it’s “out of context” or “corrupted.”

May God have mercy on you and open your eyes to the light.

wellmax:
➜No. I was addressing and disproving the deliberate misinterpretation presented by your colleague or possibly by you under another moniker. The original post was good, but you attempted to shift the whole discussion it into a flawed logical argument by selectively quoting the Bible. Your biblical interpretation is incorrect, and I have simply called that out.
If you’ve called him out, then good. I didn’t want to read any more from him anyway and did not bother reading throught the thread. I’d rather not pollute my mind this evening.
To be clear, I’m not attacking any denomination or religion. I’m simply correcting what he said, because he quoted the Bible inaccurately to suit his own purpose. And I hold trhe general public a duty to put things right before he makes "the weak to fall".

Islam is, in literal terms, a Christian denomination. There are over 46,000 different denominations within the religion of Christianity, of which Islam happens to be one of them. 🥱🥱

The Mormons have their own mormon bible and leaders to worship, the Paulians have the letters of Paul and Paul to worship, the Jehovah's Witnesses have their own bible and their leaders to worship. Mohammedans have their Quran(and Hadiths and the Talmud and the Mishnah) and Mohammed to worship. All claim to be related to the very same Torah and Injeel, which they then quote according to their own delusion,s aka interpretations. That is Christianity for you. 🥱🥱

Kobojunkie:
Islam is, in literal terms, a Christian denomination. There are over 46,000 different denominations within the religion of Christianity, of which Islam happens to be one of them. 🥱🥱

The Mormons have their own mormon bible and leaders to worship, the Paulians have the letters of Paul and Paul to worship, the Jehovah's Witnesses have their own bible and their leaders to worship. Mohammedans have their Quran(and Hadiths and the Talmud and the Mishnah) and Mohammed to worship. All claim to be related to the very same Torah and Injeel, which they then quote according to their own delusion,s aka interpretations. 🥱🥱

ok

Hussein27:
I won’t gossip about my husband to friends or family.
What happens between us stays between us.

I won’t abuse him—verbally, emotionally, or physically. Respect flows both ways.

I won’t emasculate him, in public or private. Building him up is part of building us.

I won’t weaponize intimacy. Withholding affection as punishment isn’t love—it’s manipulation.

I won’t compare him to other men—brothers, strangers, or social media highlight reels.

I won’t air our problems online. Our marriage doesn’t need an audience.

I won’t disrespect him in front of our children. Unity in parenting is non-negotiable.

I won’t nag him into resentment. I’ll communicate clearly, then trust him to step up.

I won’t dismiss his feelings because they’re expressed differently than mine.

I won’t use his vulnerabilities against him during arguments. Trust is not a weapon.

I won’t make him choose between me and his family unless there is genuine harm—and we pray that never happens.

I won’t keep score. Marriage isn’t a competition.

I won’t stop being the woman he fell in love with just because I got the ring.

I won’t ignore his love language while demanding fluency in mine.

I won’t make major life decisions alone and expect him to simply follow.

Above all, I will choose to be his peace, his partner, and his best girl.

get married first.then you take it from there

AbuTwins:
Islam is the Only Religion That Gave Women Identity
Islam uniquely honors and grants women a clear, dignified identity rooted in divine guidance, setting it apart from Christianity and other faiths.

Islam’s Affirmation of Women’s Identity:
#The Qur'an explicitly recognizes women as full moral and spiritual beings with rights and responsibilities. Allah says:
“And for women are rights over men similar to those of men over women...” (Qur’an 2:228)

#The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) emphasized respect and kindness toward women, stating:
“The best of you are those who are best to their women.” (Tirmidhi)

#Islam grants women rights to inheritance, education, marriage consent, and economic independence—rights that were revolutionary at the time of revelation.

Comparison with Christianity:
#While Christianity preaches spiritual equality, traditional interpretations often placed women in subordinate roles, sometimes limiting their public religious participation. For example, 1 Corinthians 14:34 instructs women to be silent in churches, which has historically been used to restrict women’s roles.

#The Bible’s creation narrative (Genesis 2) has been interpreted by some to imply woman’s secondary status, created from man’s rib, whereas Islam teaches that men and women were created from a single soul:
“O mankind, fear your Lord, who created you from one soul...” (Qur’an 4:1)

#Islam’s legal and social framework actively protects women’s rights and identity, while Christianity’s historical practices often reflected patriarchal cultural norms.

Checking the Christian scriptures you'll never see the input of any woman in the compilation of the Bible! They were all men - Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Paul, Peter, etc! This is too loud!

Islam is the only religion that gave women a clear, honored identity with comprehensive rights and dignity from its inception, supported by divine scripture and prophetic teachings. It elevated women’s status spiritually, socially, and legally, ensuring their full humanity and individuality, unlike Christianity’s historical approach, which often subordinated women under cultural interpretations.

Religion is truely an opium for the masses. I cannot believe anyone will be so blinded to try to defend Islam like this. truely religion is something tht has brainwashed most of you people.

dele1727:
May God continue to bless you for this response

Selfish useless lots. bacause it suits your narrative of enslaving women.

fxexperts:
Religion is truely an opium for the masses. I cannot believe anyone will be so blinded to try to defend Islam like this. truely religion is something tht has brainwashed most of you people.

Selfish useless lots. bacause it suits your narrative of enslaving women.

If we are brainwashed then what are you?
How did your dad treat your mum?

Tell us if your mum held equal rights with your dad!

FaAbData:
You're talking theory. The reality is different

Then the reality is not Islam. If Islam preaches something and Muslims follows another way then that's not Islam.

wellmax:
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The claim that Islam is the only religion that gave women identity is historically, biblically, and logically false.

Christianity affirms women’s full identity from its very foundation, not as a later reform. Genesis 1:27 explicitly states that both male and female are created in the image of God, grounding dignity and identity directly in God, not in social role or male mediation. This precedes Islam by centuries. The “rib” narrative in Genesis 2 does not imply inferiority; Jewish and Christian scholars alike have long understood it as a symbol of equality and companionship, not hierarchy.

So Why did God make man first then later woman? Why did Paul say man was created in the image of God and woman in the image of man? You sabi lie o!

Jesus’ treatment of women was radically countercultural long before Islam. He taught women publicly (Luke 10:39), engaged them in theology (John 4), defended them against religious abuse (John , included them in His ministry (Luke 8:1–3), and entrusted women as the first witnesses of the resurrection (Matthew 28). In a culture where women’s testimony was legally dismissed, Christianity placed its central truth on female witnesses, something no fabricated religion would do.

You didn't mention that Jesus called the canaanite woman a dog idiomatically while calling Israel masters! How many women were among the disciples? How many women authors wrote part of the Bible in total?

The claim that Christianity silences women misuses Scripture. Paul’s instruction in 1 Corinthians 14 is situational, not universal, especially since the same letter assumes women pray and prophesy publicly (1 Corinthians 11:5). Paul also affirms female leaders like Phoebe (Romans 16:1), Junia, “outstanding among the apostles” (Romans 16:7) and Priscilla, a theological teacher (Acts 18:26).

The verses below is enough for you meshionu!

If a woman does not cover her head, she should have her hair cut off. And if it is shameful for a woman to have her hair cut or shaved off, she should cover her head. A man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of man. For man did not come from woman, but woman from man. 1 Corithians 11:6-8 No matter the excuse you have!

The assertion that women had no input in the Bible is simply false. Deborah was a judge and prophet (Judges 4–5), Huldah a prophet consulted by kings (2 Kings 22:14), Hannah’s prayer shaped Israel’s theology (1 Samuel 2), and Mary’s Magnificat (Luke 1:46–55) stands as one of Scripture’s most powerful theological declarations.

Did Deborah, Hannah, Mary and Huldah write anything from the Bible? How many woman disciples among the 12?

Islam did grant women important legal protections in 7th-century Arabia, and that should be acknowledged. But legal reform is not the same as ontological identity. Christianity goes deeper, declaring:
“There is neither male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus” (Galatians 3:28) a statement made 600 years before Islam.

There's nothing deeper in Christianity! No major woman disciple no major Church mothers, Pope can only be male! The list is unending!

What Christianity teaches is not merely rights, but equal worth, shared inheritance, and full spiritual agency before God. Historical abuses of women reflect cultural failures, not Christian doctrine itself, something Christianity openly critiques from within.

By Christianity, Jesus taught nothing much as regarding men and women! Paul did the most teaching and he is flawed! It is not equal worth as you say! Wife submit to your husband in everything does not suggest equal worth! Continue to lie to yourself!

Islam did not uniquely give women identity.
Christianity grounded women’s identity in the image of God, affirmed by Christ Himself, from the very beginning. See how Chrisrianity is defended with christianty and the bible. I do not need to refer to any fake books or gods/ false prophets to defend my relifgion, the bible is complete and true in everything.

See the Bible verses below that affirms women must submit to men! They are created as men helpers!

1 Timothy 2:11-14
A woman must learn in quietness and full submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; she is to remain quiet. For Adam was formed first, and then Eve. And it was not Adam who was deceived, but the woman who was deceived and fell into transgression.

1 Corinthians 14:33-34
Women are to be silent in the churches. They are not permitted to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says.

Ephesians 5:22-24
Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. / For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, His body, of which He is the Savior. / Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.

Genesis 3:16
To the woman He said: “I will sharply increase your pain in childbirth; in pain you will bring forth children. Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you.”

1 Peter 3:1-6
Wives, in the same way, submit yourselves to your husbands, so that even if they refuse to believe the word, they will be won over without words by the behavior of their wives / when they see your pure and reverent demeanor. / Your beauty should not come from outward adornment, such as braided hair or gold jewelry or fine clothes, ...

Colossians 3:18
Wives, submit to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord.

1 Corinthians 11:3
But I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God.

Kobojunkie:
1. Mohammed's first wife was a rich merchant whom Mohammed himself worked for — She was his employer for the better part of his life.🥱🥱
She had an identity, status, and wealth to her name before Mohammed showed up in her life. And all this predates Islam and is as recorded in your Quran and Hadiths. Yet, you want us to believe instead that women had no identity of their own before Islam showed up on the horizon? Are you sure you are OK?🥱🥱🥱

Okay tell us about the girl child inheritance and burying of new born girl child in Arabia before Islam?

2. Are you sure you are OK in the head at all? When they say Islam hates women, these verses are part of what they mean. 🥱🥱
You literally attempted to play us— defraud us yet again— by lifting a line out of context from a passage where Mohammed reveals his beliefs about divorce, how a man can marry the day after a divorce while a woman has to wait 3 months, and how a man is above a woman in decisions regarding divorce and reconciliation, regardless of her so-called equitable rights. For what purpose? To make Islam seem even more shittier or something?

Of course you are the one we that needs an total examination of the cranial content! A man marrying anytime is justice. A woman waiting for three months reveals the situation of her womb that she is not pregnant. A man and a woman are not the same biologically. So each can not have exactly the same laws. A matured man prays Salah all the time but a menstruating woman is allowed not to pray! Man is above woman because is in charge of the family. He provides everything from shelter, clothing and food to the family!

WOW.... all one literally has to do is read the Quran and the Hadiths to know that Islam has nothing of value to give women.

See the Bible verses below that affirms women are to submit to men! They are created as men helpers, an image of man!

1 Timothy 2:11-14
A woman must learn in quietness and full submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; she is to remain quiet. For Adam was formed first, and then Eve. And it was not Adam who was deceived, but the woman who was deceived and fell into transgression.

1 Corinthians 14:33-34
Women are to be silent in the churches. They are not permitted to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says.

Ephesians 5:22-24
Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. / For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, His body, of which He is the Savior. / Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.

Genesis 3:16
To the woman He said: “I will sharply increase your pain in childbirth; in pain you will bring forth children. Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you.”

1 Peter 3:1-6
Wives, in the same way, submit yourselves to your husbands, so that even if they refuse to believe the word, they will be won over without words by the behavior of their wives / when they see your pure and reverent demeanor. / Your beauty should not come from outward adornment, such as braided hair or gold jewelry or fine clothes, ...

Colossians 3:18
Wives, submit to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord.

1 Corinthians 11:3
But I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God.

AbuTwins:
➜Okay tell us about the girl child inheritance
➜and burying of new born girl child in Arabia before Islam?
➜ Of course you are the one we that needs an total examination of the cranial content! A man marrying anytime is justice. A woman waiting for three months reveals the situation of her womb that she is not pregnant. A man and a woman are not the same biologically.
➜ So each can not have exactly the same laws. A matured man prays Salah all the time but a menstruating woman is allowed not to pray! Man is above woman because is in charge of the family. He provides everything from shelter, clothing and food to the family!
➜ See the Bible verses below that affirms women are to submit to men! They are created as men helpers, an image of man!

1. You mean the inheritance deal which guarantees a daughter receives only 1/2 of the inheritance that a boy child would? That is what you are telling us is honorable to women? Did you read the story of Khadija, Mohammed's first wife? Again, that story was before Islam. Apparently, Khadijah's father only had daughters — none of them were buried alive at birth— and after their father's death, his wealth is said to have gone to his daughters. Partly explaining how Khadijah may have obtained some of the resources that helped her build her wealth.

How does Islam, then coming in to half the amount a woman could inherit compared to what a man could get, imply that women are honored by Islam?

2. While the practice was definitely a horrendous one, Mohammed replacing it with a system that instead had those children living as fields to be plowed by old men from even their suckling years is equally horrendous. (Yes, according to Imam Khomeini of the Twelfer shia, in his book, even suckling babies can be lasciviously fondled and penetrated without consequence.)🥱🥱

Saving a newborn baby only to then turn it into a plaything for an old man's dick is not a favorable or honorable outcome for any girl or woman. It is literally exchanging one horror for another. If you had been a boy, and later sold off as a bacha boy in a place like Afghanistan, for example, to be used and abused by old men for most of your youth, only to be thrown out as useless when you become an adult, I can bet you would wish your parents had killed you instead of what Islam claims is honorable. 🥱🥱🥱

3. You, Mohammedan, love playing senseless mind games. You guys are literally no different from die-hard idol fans who would go to any length to cover up for the one they worship. 😁

1 O Prophet! ˹Instruct the believers:˺ When you ˹intend to˺ divorce women, then divorce them with concern for their waiting period, and count it accurately. And fear Allah, your Lord. Do not force them out of their homes, nor should they leave—unless they commit a blatant misconduct. These are the limits set by Allah. And whoever transgresses Allah’s limits has truly wronged his own soul. You never know, perhaps Allah will bring about a change ˹of heart˺ later.
2. Then, when they have ˹almost˺ reached the end of their waiting period, either retain them honourably or separate from them honourably. And call two of your reliable men to witness ˹either way˺—and ˹let the witnesses˺ bear true testimony for ˹the sake of˺ Allah. This is enjoined on whoever has faith in Allah and the Last Day. And whoever is mindful of Allah, He will make a way out for them,
3. and provide for them from sources they could never imagine. And whoever puts their trust in Allah, then He ˹alone˺ is sufficient for them. Certainly, Allah achieves His Will. Allah has already set a destiny for everything.
4. As for your women past the age of menstruation, in case you do not know, their waiting period is three months, and those who have not menstruated as well. As for those who are pregnant, their waiting period ends with delivery. And whoever is mindful of Allah, He will make their matters easy for them. - Quran 65 vs 1 - 4

Waiting period for girls who have yet to menstruate is the same as that for women who have already passed menopause. Your idol is a genius, right?

4. How is that supposed to be plus for women or honorable for women who are still required to do chores and engage in sexual acts(except of course, those listed in your books)? Nonsense! 🥱🥱

5. It always fascinates me how Mohammedans go around attacking the Torah and the Injeel even after Mohammed's Allah claimed himself responsible for the inspiration, preservation, and authorization of those texts.

1. Allah! There is no god ˹worthy of worship˺ except Him—the Ever-Living, All-Sustaining.
2. He has revealed to you[b] ˹O Prophet˺ the Book in truth, confirming what came before it, as He revealed the Torah and the Gospel[/b]
3. previously, as a guide for people, and ˹also˺ revealed the Decisive Authority Surely those who reject Allah’s revelations will suffer a severe torment. For Allah is Almighty, capable of punishment.
4. Surely nothing on earth or in the heavens is hidden from Allah. - Quran 3 vs 1 - 4

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44. Indeed, We revealed the Torah, containing guidance and light, by which the prophets, who submitted themselves to Allah, made judgments for Jews. So too did the rabbis and scholars judge according to Allah’s Book**, with which they were entrusted and of which they were made keepers. So do not fear the people; fear Me! Nor trade my revelations for a fleeting gain. And those who do not judge by what Allah has revealed are ˹truly˺ the disbelievers.
45. We ordained for them in the Torah, “A life for a life, an eye for an eye, a nose for a nose, an ear for an ear, a tooth for a tooth—and for wounds equal retaliation.” But whoever waives it charitably, it will be atonement for them. And those who do not judge by what Allah has revealed are ˹truly˺ the wrongdoers.
46. Then in the footsteps of the prophets, We sent Jesus, son of Mary, confirming the Torah revealed before him. And We gave him the Gospel, containing guidance and light and confirming what was revealed in the Torah—a guide and a lesson to the God-fearing.
47. So let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah has revealed in it. And those who do not judge by what Allah has revealed are ˹truly˺ the rebellious. - Quran 5 vs 44 - 66

** Allah's Book seems to include the Mishnah and the Talmud, by which the Rabbis and Judges(the Sanhedrins) judged.

Your posting these verses (out of context, as is the way of the religious) from the several books contained in the Christian Bible seems to me an attempt to undermine Allah's claims above. Are you wanting us to believe by this that Allah was wrong in associating his claims with the books that are the Torah and the Injeel, as well as the Mishnah and the Talmud, which are used as the source for a whole lot of supposedly biblical claims made in the Quran? I don't get this behavior at all. 😂😂

AbuTwins:
Then the reality is not Islam. If Islam preaches something and Muslims follows another way then that's not Islam.

Here we go again.

So what's Afghanistan and northern Nigerian practicing?

AbuTwins:
✓ Then the reality is not Islam. If Islam preaches something and Muslims follows another way then that's not Islam.

Most Mohammedans have never read the Quran for themselves, and they do not follow the words of Mohammed. For instance, if you followed Mohammed's words, you wouldn't go around too ashamed to cite Mohammed's exact words on issue like this.. the place of women and slave women in Islam. 🥱🥱

AbuTwins:
If we are brainwashed then what are you?
How did your dad treat your mum?

Tell us if your mum held equal rights with your dad!

You are a very selfish human being. Because you are a man, you are happy to get all the privileges and freedom Islam can give you. Freedom to take another human being up to 4 and above as a slave, so they can worship you as a king. That is why you are here, typing rubbish. It would have made sense if you were a women then let's see if you will be here typing all this rubbish. Don't worry eductaion will soon get to those women and their eyes will become open. I think you people say western eduaction is a sin. and who give you the right to control how women are going to love their lives.

fxexperts:
You are a very selfish human being. Because you are a man, you are happy to get all the privileges and freedom Islam can give you. Freedom to take another human being up to 4 and above as a slave, so they can worship you as a king. That is why you are here, typing rubbish. It would have made sense if you were a women then let's see if you will be here typing all this rubbish. Don't worry eductaion will soon get to those women and their eyes will become open. I think you people say western eduaction is a sin. and who give you the right to control how women are going to love their lives.

Education will let them know your God permitted David to have his master's wives! Marrying more women does not diminish their value nor their rights in Islam! Who told you any married woman is a slave?