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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f):
Meanwhile these are the people your faves have been getting their “reliable” news from 🙄

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 2:21pm On Feb 15
GloriousGbola:
They are in the process of expanding the lens for Nigerian immigrants. Gotta meet those denaturalisation quotas

Good Luck to Nigerian-Americans
Not only to Nigerian immigrants and Nigerian-Americans.

We are here discussing US politics, but must be mindful that some of our thinking is the same way we think about Nigerian politics too, and to our detriment where maga thought is concerned.

It would be very disastrous for Nigeria if we practice USA type religious bigotry for instance. Just imagine Christain or Muslim Nationalism, and what it would do to us as a nation. The only thing worse might be tribal bigotry, which we must be vigilant of.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GloriousGbola: 2:24pm On Feb 15
cococandy:
Meanwhile these the people your faves have been getting their “reliable” news from 🙄
mission accomplished, pardon incoming
nothing to see here
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 2:27pm On Feb 15
cococandy:
Meanwhile these the people your faves have been getting their “reliable” news from 🙄
Wasn't he sent to prison for 6 years?

Found the following though.

https://newrepublic.com/post/202897/fbi-informant-alexander-smirnov-lied-biden-released-jail

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m):
benalvino3:
When bayelsaowei stands in front of SARS vehicles then you can call me a coward, till then he and you know you cannot do what you encourage thidr people to do
and standing in front of a SARS vehicle during a protest under the nigerian constitution, warrants death sentence?

Be supporting badness under the guise of fake common sense..

You have refused to condemn the killers of Renne Good and alex,but blame the deceased for their deaths.

You see how far Trump and his goons have affected you?

Its like a disease..
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 2:50pm On Feb 15
budaatum:
Wasn't he sent to prison for 6 years?

Found the following though.

https://newrepublic.com/post/202897/fbi-informant-alexander-smirnov-lied-biden-released-jail
wahala... grin grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 2:53pm On Feb 15
cococandy:
Meanwhile these the people your faves have been getting their “reliable” news from 🙄
Chaiii...
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 3:29pm On Feb 15
bayelsaowei:
and standing in front of a SARS vehicle during a protest under the nigerian constitution, warrants death sentence?

Be supporting badness under the guise of fake common sense..

You have refused to condemn the killers of Renne Good and alex,but blame the deceased for their deaths.

You see how far Trump and his goons have affected you?

Its like a disease..
It does not so why not go and stand in front of their vehicles?

Everyone knows it does not warrant a death warrant so why haven't you done such a thing?

I am not supporting SARS or ICE, I am only saying you have the common sense not to put yourself in danger so why encourage others?

Since when does asking someone not to go into a lions cage = supporting the lion killing that person?

In movies or cartoons, you and I are illustrated by this. One is encouraging a subject to put themselves in danger, the other one is saying don't, bad things might happen

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 3:54pm On Feb 15
bayelsaowei:
Chaiii...
GloriousGbola:
mission accomplished, pardon incoming
nothing to see here
They sat here for months parroting the lies this dude was spewing as though they were irrefutable facts
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GloriousGbola: 4:01pm On Feb 15
cococandy:
They sat here for months parroting the lies this dude was spewing as though they were irrefutable facts
they knew he was lying - but he served their purpose of creating the biden crime family boogeyman

every accusation a confession
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 4:03pm On Feb 15
benalvino3:
It does not so why not go and stand in front of their vehicles?

Everyone knows it does not warrant a death warrant so why haven't you done such a thing?

I am not supporting SARS or ICE, I am only saying you have the common sense not to put yourself in danger so why encourage others?

Since when does asking someone not to go into a lions cage = supporting the lion killing that person?

In movies or cartoons, you and I are illustrated by this. One is encouraging a subject to put themselves in danger, the other one is saying don't, bad things might happen
Have you condemned the killers of Renne Good and Alex yet?

When you do then I know youre not supporting ICE or SARS..

tongue tongue
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 4:13pm On Feb 15
bayelsaowei:
Have you condemned the killers of Renne Good and Alex yet?

When you do then I know youre not supporting ICE or SARS..

tongue tongue
Good tried to kill someone and as a result she got killed. Whether she did it intentionally or not, if the man is afraid for his life and she put him and her in danger, then it is unfortunate that she lost her life.

She should not have died, buts the officer's action is justified.

It's like saying you don't support doctors because there is a doctor who poisoned his patient.

I support as well as the police.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f):
GloriousGbola:
they knew he was lying - but he served their purpose of creating the biden crime family boogeyman

every accusation a confession
Bingo.
They’ve always known.

I used to give them grace as per “easily brainwashed people who readily believe lies that serve their agenda” but no one is that foolish. How often can you be lied to before you realize you are being lied to?

Every time one of their major talking points gets irrefutably exposed as a lie, they pivot with a non sequitur and carry on like it never happened while still remaining in steadfast support of the people lying to them. They can’t be that xtuuuupid or else how are they getting through everyday life?

It’s a way for them to keep being the ghouls they actually are while hoping that one day they can be forgiven and have it all dismissed as a result of innocent misinformation.

We will not forget.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 4:39pm On Feb 15
benalvino3:
Good tried to kill someone and as a result she got killed. Whether she did it intentionally or not, if the man is afraid for his life and she put him and her in danger, then it is unfortunate that she lost her life.

She should not have died, buts the officer's action is justified.

It's like saying you don't support doctors because there is a doctor who poisoned his patient.

I support as well as the police.
Officer's action justified? What?

Good was trying to kill someone?

huh embarassed
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 4:41pm On Feb 15
bayelsaowei:
Officer's action justified? What?

Good was trying to kill someone?

huh embarassed
Minnesota's law says it is as well as federal law.

You and I don't know, we don't know if the officer actually thought she is going to kill him. The law says he is justified.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 5:22pm On Feb 15
benalvino3:
It does not so why not go and stand in front of their vehicles?

Everyone knows it does not warrant a death warrant so why haven't you done such a thing?

I am not supporting SARS or ICE, I am only saying you have the common sense not to put yourself in danger so why encourage others?

Since when does asking someone not to go into a lions cage = supporting the lion killing that person?

In movies or cartoons, you and I are illustrated by this. One is encouraging a subject to put themselves in danger, the other one is saying don't, bad things might happen
Talking nonsense without the slightest hint of awareness.

You are saying ICE is danger without even knowing it. The extra stoopidity in here is not understanding that this is what the others have been saying the whole time........ that ICE is recklessly dangerous.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 5:38pm On Feb 15
nateevs:
Talking nonsense without the slightest hint of awareness.

You are saying ICE is danger without even knowing it. The extra stoopidity in here is not understanding that this is what the others have been saying the whole time........ that ICE is recklessly dangerous.
Like we are just supposed to casually accept that an agency in America is allowed to act with impunity. So what then differentiates us from the third world countries that we invade with reckless abandon because they’re infringing on the rights of their citizens?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 6:01pm On Feb 15
After a poll came out that almost 60% of the public thinks the democrats are too left, Obama is now calling out Newsom that having homeless tents is bad while Hillary is in Munich saying illegal uncontrolled immigration is bad
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 6:03pm On Feb 15
nateevs:
Talking nonsense without the slightest hint of awareness.

You are saying ICE is danger without even knowing it. The extra stoopidity in here is not understanding that this is what the others have been saying the whole time........ that ICE is recklessly dangerous.
You no get awareness or not applying common sense.

Is the police danger? No, but you can put yourself in a dangerous position with them by forcing them to come into contact with you. When that happens, your life and their life are in danger. Anything can happen.

If you apply common sense, you will understand what I am saying.

Anytime a suspect fails to comply with law enforcement, they are putting themselves in danger. If you confront law enforcement, you are putting yourself in danger. Whether the officer is a good cop or a bad cop, you must avoid confrontation. If there is confrontation, you must try to de-escalate by complying.

There are numerous cases where a police officer breaks down after they shoot someone because they did not think the time would come when they would have to take a life.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 6:05pm On Feb 15
raumdeuter:
After a poll came out that almost 60% of the public thinks the democrats are too left, Obama is now calling out Newsom that having homeless tents is bad while Hillary is in Munich saying illegal uncontrolled immigration is bad
They are known for saying one thing and doing the opposite.

Mondani is increasing taxes to pay for the deficit Biden open border put New York in.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 6:34pm On Feb 15
This particular cop killed two people and both were justified. One was not armed, the other was reaching for a toy gun.

Nateevs, Budaatum and bayelsaowei, this is what officers go through, a situation can get out of hand quickly and what will matter most is what was going through the officers head before the fatal incident. In this case the court said he was justified.

He said he is scared and he has family.

So you guys should keep encouraging people to their death, something non of you will think of doing.

My idea is avoid all this so we don't go to court and ask or test whether so and so actions are justified or not, but for some reason you guys think it is reasonable to be unreasonable with law enforcement.

Na same una go claim the moral highground


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WGLkQDy3Jk
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 6:44pm On Feb 15
These are officers going into shock after shooting someone.

You have folks acting like ICE is bad and they want to kill people, police is bad and want to kill people. That's not the case.

https://youtube.com/shorts/qHC35FJaKdI
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 6:53pm On Feb 15
In cases like the one in the video, the decision not to charge an officer usually comes down to the high legal bar for "criminal intent" and the specific laws governing police use of force.
​While the public and the family see a clear tragedy (an unarmed child shot with his hands up), prosecutors like Cook County State's Attorney Kim Foxx often cite the following reasons for not bringing criminal charges:
​1. The "Split-Second" Rule
​Under the 1989 Supreme Court case Graham v. Connor, an officer's actions are judged based on what a "reasonable officer" would do in that exact moment, not with the benefit of 20/20 hindsight.
​The Argument: If an officer believes, even mistakenly that a person is reaching for a weapon or poses an imminent threat, the law often protects that "split-second" decision. In the May 2022 case, the officer claimed the teen turned toward him during the chase in a way that suggested a threat.
​2. Lack of "Criminal Intent"
​To get a conviction for murder or manslaughter, a prosecutor must prove the officer intended to commit a crime or acted with "reckless disregard" for life that exceeds standard police procedure.
​The Reality: Prosecutors often state that while an officer may have violated department policy (like the foot pursuit policy), violating a policy is not the same as committing a crime.



So bayelsaowei, keep encouraging people to their death so you can ask us if we support ice or not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUWD_MPIX70
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 7:11pm On Feb 15
Bayelsaowei, this officer was shot by is own gun, the same gun Alex pretti was carrying. It is believed the gun went off and as a result he was killed.

Whether he was armed or disarmed which he was(disarmed) does not matter. What was going through the officers head when they hear a gun shot they did not trigger is what will matter.

So continue to encourage people to confront law enforcement so you can ask the the question " do you support ice"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFT-g-9CPmg

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 7:56pm On Feb 15
budaatum:
Wasn't he sent to prison for 6 years?

Found the following though.

https://newrepublic.com/post/202897/fbi-informant-alexander-smirnov-lied-biden-released-jail
Yeah, but last I heard, the Trump DOJ was reviewing his case and asking for him to be released pending his appeal (is he appealing his confession?).
Someone paid him a good amount of money to lie. Someone at Bill Barr's DOJ knew that and still laundered his lies ostensible to tarnish Biden. Kinda similar to what Trump wanted Zelensky to do.
This would a huge scandal in of itself if there weren't a million other scandals in this Trump administration.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 8:05pm On Feb 15
cococandy:
Bingo.
They’ve always known.

I used to give them grace as per “easily brainwashed people who readily believe lies that serve their agenda” but no one is that foolish. How often can you be lied to before you realize you are being lied to?

Every time one of their major talking points gets irrefutably exposed as a lie, they pivot with a non sequitur and carry on like it never happened while still remaining in steadfast support of the people lying to them. They can’t be that xtuuuupid or else how are they getting through everyday life?

It’s a way for them to keep being the ghouls they actually are while hoping that one day they can be forgiven and have it all dismissed as a result of innocent misinformation.

We will not forget.
Some aren't clever enough to understand what they are posting, and the others are fully aware they are lying.
The truly despicable thing is that they choose to do so on things like p files and racism.
This Trump presidency has made me realize there are a lot more truly terrible people who walk amongst us than I previously thought.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 8:06pm On Feb 15
nateevs:
Talking nonsense without the slightest hint of awareness.

You are saying ICE is danger without even knowing it. The extra stoopidity in here is not understanding that this is what the others have been saying the whole time........ that ICE is recklessly dangerous.
He never has any idea the implications of what he is writing.
The depth of a puddle.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 8:09pm On Feb 15
nateevs:
Talking nonsense without the slightest hint of awareness.

You are saying ICE is danger without even knowing it. The extra stoopidity in here is not understanding that this is what the others have been saying the whole time........ that ICE is recklessly dangerous.
Basically, according to him, I just need to think he is going to kïll me, and that justifies me killïng him first.

These magas supported the assination of George Floyd who couldn't breath, so I'm least surprised they support assinations by ICE.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 8:30pm On Feb 15
IjeBos:
Some aren't clever enough to understand what they are posting, and the others are fully aware they are lying.
The truly despicable thing is that they choose to do so on things like p files and racism.
This Trump presidency has made me realize there are a lot more truly terrible people who walk amongst us than I previously thought.
Trump brings out the latent vileness in people..

Just take a look at Trumps associates.. folks who were typically honest and well cultured people have become demons working under Trump.. all morals thrown in the bin, empathy crushed, integrity jettisoned..
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 8:43pm On Feb 15
bayelsaowei:
Trump brings out the latent vileness in people..

Just take a look at Trumps associates.. folks who were typically honest and well cultured people have become demons working under Trump.. all morals thrown in the bin, empathy crushed, integrity jettisoned..
Don't think anyone working for Trump esp. this term was and honest and well cultured.
They were always latent demons.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 8:50pm On Feb 15
IjeBos:
Don't think anyone working for Trump esp. this term was and honest and well cultured.
They were always latent demons.
Youre correct sha..

Look at that Cocoyam head Stephen Miller.. a disgusting human being..worse than Trump..

But for those who think they are supporting cruel actions attributing it to common sense, I only pity them.

Slowly and gradually they'd turn into monsters.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 9:05pm On Feb 15
budaatum:
Basically, according to him, I just need to think he is going to kïll me, and that justifies me killïng him first.

These magas supported the assination of George Floyd who couldn't breath, so I'm least surprised they support assinations by ICE.
Thats not according to me, it is according to what you have in your head.
When you oversimplify what i said to make yourself look like you are applying common sense, it only makes you seem more desperate.

I have been asking you and Bayelsaowei why you don't confront SARS, especially you, Bayelsaowei.

What I think does not matter, Budaatum, I have provided cases where people were shot dead because they confronted a police officer, did not follow orders, and at the end of the day, the court has a guideline that prioritizes what the cop was instinctively thinking before the fatal incident.

No amount of ICE is bad; ICE kills people, and that will change that. Actions have consequences, and that is why Bayelsaowei will never put himself or encourage his friends to go and confront SARS.

Pretti and Rennee Good are not unique; it is not the first time things like that have happened.

So if you think that someone wants to kill you and you kill the person, that is in your head, but that's not what my argument is saying, not in the slightest.

Good: Moved a car toward....
Pretti: His gun went off

Nobody just stayed and thought, "Pretti or good wanted to kill them," and so they acted first when good and pretti were having a cup of tea.
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