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Re: See The True Picture Of Valentine by LordReed(m): 2:40pm On Feb 15
naijapikin2:
I would... you would gladly lay your life for someone whom you love my brother
That is not human sacrifice. Look at the definition of human sacrifice.

Re: See The True Picture Of Valentine by alobright17(m): 3:29pm On Feb 15
ManknowThyself:
Your understanding and believe about life is your choice and not mine business neither mine yours.

You not getting the message doesn't gives you the right to gaslight.
a typical brainwashed African Christian always hiding behind oh you don’t get the message even though there’s no message talk less of getting it .

The message I should understand is your Jesus according a whiteman’s story created a problem and then sent himself to solve the same problem he created and the white man told you that’s him Jesus showing love .

Is only you that understand that creating a mess and cleaning the mess is called love . SMH
Re: See The True Picture Of Valentine by occfx: 3:30pm On Feb 15
lanre316:
If I have the powers of Ominiscience, Omnipotence and Ultimate Wisdom; I will arrange situations from the beginning such that Nigerian citizens will not even need saving in the first place. They will function and use their free will to choose good actions the way I originally intended them to.

A truly All-knowing, All-Powerful and All-Wise God shouldn't need to do damage control (saving). He will prevent damage in the first place.
There was no need to create you in the first place. He would stop at baboons. Are you not happy you are human?
Re: See The True Picture Of Valentine by lanre316: 3:40pm On Feb 15
occfx:
There was no need to create you in the first place. He would stop at baboons. Are you not happy you are human?
Then why call him an omniscient, all-powerful and all-wise. Religious people claim He can see all the futures and yet he still allow sufferings and evil.

If I know that a criminal is going to harm and permanently damage a little girl for life, I will arrange the situations that won't even allow that criminal to do such evil. I won't allow it and say that I'm giving the criminal a free will. And I don't have to turn the criminal into a baboon.

I know you will do the same, if you have such powers. That speaks a lot about the God that these foreign Abrahamic religions are pushing upon us.
Re: See The True Picture Of Valentine by ManknowThyself(m): 3:47pm On Feb 15
alobright17:
a typical brainwashed African Christian always hiding behind oh you don’t get the message even though there’s no message talk less of getting it .

The message I should understand is your Jesus according a whiteman’s story created a problem and then sent himself to solve the same problem he created and the white man told you that’s him Jesus showing love .

Is only you that understand that creating a mess and cleaning the mess is called love . SMH
LoL
Hahahaha

No energy


Hahaha hahaha
Re: See The True Picture Of Valentine by erico2k2(m): 3:54pm On Feb 15
naijapikin2:
This is the best pictorial representation of valentine. John 3:16 says for God so LOVED the world that he gave his only begotten son......the love of God is the greatest love for vain is the help of man.
Shalom 🙏
2026 you lot still. Believe this is the photo of Jesus??seriously huh
Re: See The True Picture Of Valentine by alobright17(m): 3:56pm On Feb 15
ManknowThyself:
LoL
Hahahaha

No energy


Hahaha hahaha
No gather energy to come and defend your Jesus na . He should give you energy at all times because he created you to defend him.
Re: See The True Picture Of Valentine by IsraeliAIRFORCE: 4:43pm On Feb 15
lanre316:
Why did God has to get himself nailed to the cross to forgive people their sins? Why didn't he simply forgive their sins? Or better yet use his omniscient knowledge of the future and omnipotence power to arrange situations such that people won't choose to sin, without necessarily overriding their free will?

Why?
In the domain of spirits, there is no forgiveness. Justice is required for sin committed and substitution is acceptable.
Re: See The True Picture Of Valentine by occfx: 4:49pm On Feb 15
lanre316:
Then why call him an omniscient, all-powerful and all-wise. Religious people claim He can see all the futures and yet he still allow sufferings and evil.

If I know that a criminal is going to harm and permanently damage a little girl for life, I will arrange the situations that won't even allow that criminal to do such evil. I won't allow it and say that I'm giving the criminal a free will. And I don't have to turn the criminal into a baboon.

I know you will do the same, if you have such powers. That speaks a lot about the God that these foreign Abrahamic religions are pushing upon us.
Freewill is part of God... You are God too. Why do you want to be a robotic God. You don't like to create?

God created another God so you can create too.

Why don't you want to be God?
Re: See The True Picture Of Valentine by lanre316: 5:08pm On Feb 15
occfx:
Freewill is part of God... You are God too. Why do you want to be a robotic God. You don't like to create?

God created another God so you can create too.

Why don't you want to be God?
That's not a response. It's a lame excuse. Your God cannot prevent evil because of freewill.

If your God cannot create a world free of evil unless he made people baboons and robots, you need to seriously question if your God is truly Omniscient and Omnipotent.

I don't expect you to grasp this by the way.

This is an obvious truth only to rational mind devoid of religious indoctrinations
Re: See The True Picture Of Valentine by lanre316: 5:10pm On Feb 15
IsraeliAIRFORCE:
In the domain of spirits, there is no forgiveness. Justice is required for sin committed and substitution is acceptable.
Did you attend committee of spirits when they met to reach this conclusion and pass it as a spirit law?
Re: See The True Picture Of Valentine by occfx: 5:39pm On Feb 15
lanre316:
That's not a response. It's a lame excuse. Your God cannot prevent evil because of freewill.

If your God cannot create a world free of evil unless he made people baboons and robots, you need to seriously question if your God is truly Omniscient and Omnipotent.

I don't expect you to grasp this by the way.

This is an obvious truth only to rational mind devoid of religious indoctrinations
In other words, there is no God... I assume with you.

What do you think constructed the universe so perfectly that everything aligned even with physics?

Going with your omni science and omni present is knowing the end from the beginning?

If someone told you that he knew the end from the beginning and you are in the middle. It is when you get to the end, you will know if it's true or false. However, I know you writing these things according to your what your pastors and pulpit bandits tells you. Personally, I analysis books, histories, religion and science and judge by myself.

You believe nothing created or constructed the earth and the universe, so what do you believe? Big bang theory right? Your choice.

You see the story of Jesus Christ, study it well and understand the message. It's a scripted message and it has been there even before it appeared in the Bible.
Re: See The True Picture Of Valentine by lanre316: 6:09pm On Feb 15
occfx:
In other words, there is no God... I assume with you.

What do you think constructed the universe so perfectly that everything aligned even with physics?
Why do you assume the universe was created? Did you assume your God was created? No. You believe he was uncreated. Same logic applies to the universe. The universe could have always been and will always be and only change and evolve over billions of years. Even the big bang could be a step in the series of steps of in the eternal existence of the multiverse (I assume you know what this means) .

Going with your omni science and omni present is knowing the end from the beginning?

If someone told you that he knew the end from the beginning and you are in the middle. It is when you get to the end, you will know if it's true or false. However, I know you writing these things according to your what your pastors and pulpit bandits tells you. Personally, I analysis books, histories, religion and science and judge by myself.
Fair point.

You believe nothing created or constructed the earth and the universe, so what do you believe? Big bang theory right? Your choice.
No. You're the one who believed the universe has to be created to exist. Not me. Applying the same logic, your God has to be created to exist.

Big bang theory is the most plausible explanation of origin of the earth, stars and galaxies. I don't have to "believe" it, I only need to understand it. It's not faith. It's science. Evidence plenty well well.


You see the story of Jesus Christ, study it well and understand the message. It's a scripted message and it has been there even before it appeared in the Bible.
Really? If you studied the Bible well, and studied history, as you advised me, you will know Christianity (and Islam of course) is a man-made religion that borrowed a lot from earlier indigenous religions of Jews, Zoroastrians, Romans and Egyptians. Infact, Jesus character is a heavily modified story of Osiris, Horus, and Adonis.
Re: See The True Picture Of Valentine by sweetkev(m): 7:07pm On Feb 15
lanre316:
Then why call him an omniscient, all-powerful and all-wise. Religious people claim He can see all the futures and yet he still allow sufferings and evil.

If I know that a criminal is going to harm and permanently damage a little girl for life, I will arrange the situations that won't even allow that criminal to do such evil. I won't allow it and say that I'm giving the criminal a free will. And I don't have to turn the criminal into a baboon.

I know you will do the same, if you have such powers. That speaks a lot about the God that these foreign Abrahamic religions are pushing upon us.
Who are you to question God. He can do and undo as he pleases him. Remember you are just a mere mortal living by his grace.
Re: See The True Picture Of Valentine by lanre316: 7:35pm On Feb 15
sweetkev:
Who are you to question God. He can do and undo as he pleases him. Remember you are just a mere mortal living by his grace.
Hehehe 😂 😂 😂

I'm not questioning any God.

I'm questioning religions and religious ideologies.

Hope you know there's a difference between the two.
Re: See The True Picture Of Valentine by temitope27(m): 7:37pm On Feb 15
MERCHANDISER:
Oga read your Bible, especially Revelation
so you believe something that has no evidence, u be ozuor🤣
Re: See The True Picture Of Valentine by occfx: 7:55pm On Feb 15
lanre316:
Why do you assume the universe was created? Did you assume your God was created? No. You believe he was uncreated. Same logic applies to the universe. The universe could have always been and will always be and only change and evolve over billions of years. Even the big bang could be a step in the series of steps of in the eternal existence of the multiverse (I assume you know what this means) .



Fair point.



No. You're the one who believed the universe has to be created to exist. Not me. Applying the same logic, your God has to be created to exist.

Big bang theory is the most plausible explanation of origin of the earth, stars and galaxies. I don't have to "believe" it, I only need to understand it. It's not faith. It's science. Evidence plenty well well.



Really? If you studied the Bible well, and studied history, as you advised me, you will know Christianity (and Islam of course) is a man-made religion that borrowed a lot from earlier indigenous religions of Jews, Zoroastrians, Romans and Egyptians. Infact, Jesus character is a heavily modified story of Osiris, Horus, and Adonis.
This debate go long but you see the summary
..

As far as we are not in the beginning and we will not be at the end. Man have to believe something. Some believed in the big bang theory that something can actually come out of nothing while others believed the nothing that created something is God like me

Now, from analysis, some people are proving big bang theory from the physics point of view while physics is gradually moving in to quantum and Meta, it is gradually shifting to what the Bible and some religious books wrote. That brought me to the existence of extra terrestrial. Now, if something which knows more than me tells me this and that, I will surely listen.

Read the story of Jesus Christ again but don't read as a book, read it like a script, like an encrypted message, you will surely get the message. I am not sure those things happened but the message is clear. Even our ancestors in Africa knew about it but they cant equate it.

Men are managers and inhabitants of earth and as God of the earth we are Jesus Christ.
Re: See The True Picture Of Valentine by maryalloy(f): 10:24pm On Feb 15
Thank you Lord 🙏
Re: See The True Picture Of Valentine by AllBlack: 1:52am On Feb 16
sweetkev:
Because sins can not be forgiven without blood. This is called blood of the lamb. It is a divine and spiritual rules of cleansing sins. Hebrews 9 vs 22.
This is what they told you or?
Re: See The True Picture Of Valentine by quietttttt: 9:07am On Feb 16
True love is measured by sacrifice and care, not by temporary gestures
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