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Janosky:
No, he meant the kingdom of God has drawn near.
Luke 17:21,

Jesus meant that he (Messenger/Representative) of Gods kingdom was in the midst of the Jews preaching to them to mend their ways & follow Christ to worship Jehovah God. Jn 9:4

paxonel:
invariably, this statement means the time of his crucifixion and resurrection is drawn near. Do you agree?
In order words, the purpose of the preaching was to draw people's attention away from the distractions of the cares of life Matthew 19:28-29, and follow him to the point of his crucixion and resurrection where the kingdom of God was to be established?

I want you to follow the story carefully and objectively

paxonel:
But there are records in the bible that the first century Christians celebrated their birthday and marriages?

Is birthday and marriage celebrations wrong?

paltielx:
where in the Bible did the first century Christians celebrate their birthdays?

tctrills:
So you know more than paul who taught that believers are free to dedicate a day to the Lord?
Oga your church is not zhe standard for Christianity, the teachings of Jesus Christ and His apostle is the standard.
Even if the people in Rome at that time did not celebrate Christmas, as long as the teachings of Paul clearly stated that it is not a sin, who are you to judge?

Even if Christmas started 1 million years after the death of Christ, the teachings of Paul makes it clear that it is acceptable to God.

Lets read the verse again.

Romans 14:5–6
One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind. Whoever regards one day as special does so to the Lord. Whoever does not regard one day as special does so to the Lord as well

Christmas is done unto the Lord thats whats important

Janosky:
Oga, which believer in the Roman congregation abide by your interpretation of Romans 14:4-6 to celebrate birthdays?
If your interpretation was genuine,Paul would have written to other believers in other cities to follow the Roman's example.
Una too like to dey deceive yourselves.

MaxInDHouse:
Christians are free to dedicate a day for themselves is it collectively for the purpose of worship or individually to do whatever they want each in the name of Jesus?🙂

Janosky:
The man no know say Heinenken bottle bearing the label Life beer is a fake.
Just as stamping a pagan ceremony with "The Lord's" label makes that ceremony very fake.

Janosky:
Oga, which believer in the Roman congregation abide by your interpretation of Romans 14:4-6 to celebrate birthdays?
If your interpretation was genuine,Paul would have written to other believers in other cities to follow the Roman's example.
But,Paul never did that.
Una too like to dey deceive yourselves.

tctrills:
This is a very foolish question because the bible was not written to indicate whether birthdays were celebrated or not. The most important thing is that we are guided by the principles. So the question should be, do you believe the teachings of Paul or not?

Are you even listening to yourself?
Oga,where are you getting the principle to celebrate what you claim your Bible ( the teachings of Paul at Romans 14:4-5 ) did not indicate whether you should celebrate or not?

Which believer in the Roman congregation followed your spurious interpretation of Romans 14:4-5 in the days of Paul the apostle?
"Do not go beyond the things that are written." ,
Obey that injunction
or
Just continue deceiving yourself.

Janosky:
Are you even listening to yourself?
Oga,where are you getting the principle to celebrate what you claim your Bible ( the teachings of Paul at Romans 14:4-5 ) did not indicate whether you should celebrate or not?

Which believer in the Roman congregation followed your spurious interpretation of Romans 14:4-5 in the days of Paul the apostle?
"Do not go beyond the things that are written." ,
Obey that injunction
or
Just continue deceiving yourself.

tctrills:
Romans 14:4-5 actually did, It gave you the freedom to choose if you will celebrate or not, And it made it clear that you would not be judged for celebrating.
Lets read it together.
Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.

5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.

First, it teaches people like you that you don't have the right to judge others for celebrating. But I know you learnt nothing here.
Then it went on to teach that the decision to celebrate or not should come from our minds. So each person can and should make their own decision.

So I ask, would you obey the instructions of Paul and stop judging those who decide to celebrate or would you continue obeying you wicked leaders and continue to accuse the brethren who celebrate.

Again, hope you remember that even the angels celebrated the birth of Jesus Christ?

Janosky:
Did Paul who wrote Romans 14:4-5 celebrate birthdays or Christmas?
No.
1 Corinthians 11:1 Paul wrote "Imitate me as I imitate christ".
View the screenshot of your popular pastor.
Stick to the teaching he's showing you.
Oga, stop deceiving yourself.

Janosky:
Did Paul who wrote Romans 14:4-5 celebrate birthdays or Christmas?
No.
1 Corinthians 11:1 Paul wrote "Imitate me as I imitate christ".
View the screenshot of your popular pastor.
Stick to the teaching he's showing you.
Oga, stop deceiving yourself.

tctrills:
You read that Paul wrote it's a personal choice so even if he did, there was no need to announce it.


Please explain how 1 Corinthians 11.1 has to do with Christmas.
.

Did Jesus celebrate his birthday every year?
No, Jesus shunned birthday celebrations.
Did Paul copy Jesus example shunning birthday celebration?
Yes, 1 Corinthians 11:1 is the solid proof.
Your interpretation of Romans 14:5 is against evidence of the holy scriptures & secular history.

Confirm this fact from secular history ,pls.
Early Christians no do am.

tctrills:
Again, we don't know if Paul celebrated the birth of Christ but we know for certain that the angels in heaven celebrated it.

tctrills:
Oga lets see how foolish your argument is.
Paul taught Men to love their wives, but it is not recorded that Paul had or loved his wife. Just because something is not recorded doesn't mean that the principle taught becomes false.
Romans 14:5 is perhaps the simplest verse in the bible. According to the bible, who are you to judge one for choosing to celebrate or esteem Christmas Day? I advise you to stick to the bible even if it offends the big white bosses of your organization. Trust me, they know nothing. You would be blessed following the teachings of Paul and not your corrupt white boss. For me, it's so easy, I just stick to the revealed word. I don't depend on criminals to worship.
It's good you agree that Angels celebrated the birth of Christ, so what do you have against humans doing the same?
Lastly, nowhere in the christian bible is it recorded that Angels celebrated the creation of Adam. I guess the JW have strange scriptures not found in the bible. For now, let's stick to the bible.

Janosky:
[b]Did Jesus celebrate his birthday every year?

paxonel:
People that view Jesus Christ as a fellow worshipper of God.

MaxInDHouse:
This is how Jesus presented himself to all his friends and followers:

“Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’” John 20:17

So Jesus is our fellow worshiper not our God!🙂

paxonel:
Jw isn't Christianity but another religion entirely, forget the deception that they are carrying bible.

People that view Jesus Christ as a fellow worshipper of God just like Islam and Budhaism what do you expect from them?

Their religion name is watchtower!
They worship their gathering and house to house preaching, not God

Janosky:
John 20:17 & Deuteronomy 10:17 no dey paxonel Bible

tctrills:
Oga lets see how foolish your argument is.
Paul taught Men to love their wives, but it is not recorded that Paul had or loved his wife. Just because something is not recorded doesn't mean that the principle taught becomes false.

tctrills:
Romans 14:5 is perhaps the simplest verse in the bible. According to the bible, who are you to judge one for choosing to celebrate or esteem Christmas Day? I advise you to stick to the bible even if it offends the big white bosses of your organization. Trust me, they know nothing. You would be blessed following the teachings of Paul and not your corrupt white boss. For me, it's so easy, I just stick to the revealed word. I don't depend on criminals to worship.

tctrills:
It's good you agree that Angels celebrated the birth of Christ, so what do you have against humans doing the same?

Lastly, nowhere in the christian bible is it recorded that Angels celebrated the creation of Adam. I guess the JW have strange scriptures not found in the bible. For now, let's stick to the bible.

tctrills:
So the bible showed neither Jesus Christ nor Paul loving a wife, yet we follow the principle they taught. Now, Paul taught a principle, and you are asking for evidence of him practicing it. Make that make sense, sir.

tctrills:
Job 38.4,7 talks about the foundation of the earth, not the creation of man. 2 diffrent events. Never was it written that angels rejoiced at the creation of man. Maybe they di,d but it is not recorded in the Christian Bible. Stop spreading lies.

Janosky:

Oga, John 20:17,Rev 3:12 & Deut 10:17 is in your own Bible.
Accept the truth Jesus taught about himself
OR
Be deceiving yourself.

paxonel:
What are you saying?
That any of these scriptures contradicts John 1:1 ?

The bible cannot contradict itself!
You don't believe that Jesus is the Messiah you don't believe, no matter how you carry bible walker.

It's simple

Janosky:
Tctrills, subtly changing the narrative.
Oga,you are not candid ...
Paul & Jesus specifically spoke about marriage & supported it.
Where did Paul & Jesus teach you to do annual birthdays?
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MaxInDHouse:
God's word never said the Messiah is God o!🤣

paxonel:
What did the Messiah came to do?