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Even in cases where the rape victim is male, the perpetrator is most often another male. Catholic priests, Muslim men on younger boys etc Yes, that’s a fact.

Instead of confronting the real issue why men keep doing this you derail the conversation by bringing up the tiny number of false rape allegations like it’s some kind of gotcha. It isn’t. It’s just deflection from the core issue.

In 2022, there was a viral Nairaland thread of men sharing instances of sexual abuse of being taken advantage of sexually by women.

Here it is: https://www.nairaland.com/7066779/guys-share-experience-sexual-abuse .

The common denominator was that when they reported, the boys were dismissed by even their own parents.

When they told friends, friends told them to be thankful they were molested.

When they told older guys who should defend them, the men mocked them as being kids who don't know the good things of life.

There are several Twitter and Facebook threads of men recounting being sexually abused but even the police dismissed their concerns.
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I can guarantee you if any man here is dûmb enough to admit he was abused by women, he would be humiliated and mocked, if not today but in month's time.

Men don't speak up. And when they speak up, no consequences to the female abusers.

But when a man is false accused, society forever smears him.

Kimbeast:
Even in cases where the rape victim is male, the perpetrator is most often another male. Catholic priests, Muslim men on younger boys etc Yes, that’s a fact.

Instead of confronting the real issue why men keep doing this you derail the conversation by bringing up the tiny number of false rape allegations like it’s some kind of gotcha. It isn’t. It’s just deflection from the core issue.

you are a real piece of work.

DissTroy:
You still don't get it or you're pretending not to.

Women who falsely accuse or are abusers get away with it.

For men, real or falsely accused, the consequences are swift - immediate.

There's a case on frontpage now of a woman who abuse her neighbour's daughter then framed the girl's father to get him jailed since 2022. The original statement of the lady being guilty has been found. She's walking free.

B_Moore in the link above who accused UchedandyMUFC is still walking free.

If Mirabel were a man who had admitted to same-sex relationship, he'd have been jailed.

If Mirabel had admitted to dating men like she admitted to dating women as minor at 17, the men involved would have been fished out and jailed.

You can local-search "Disstroy ràpe" to see me being harsh on rápists, even back in 2019. I ask for cruel punishment for them. Same with false rape accusers.

I've done more for råpe victims than the Kimberly above. I can share screenshots of offering to do promotional designs for an NGO which defends human rights in my state. I had an issue with one of them when I insisted Natasha provide proof of her allegations and I stopped offering them that freedom because I realized the founder was a rabid feminist. Only the other more logical ones now.

Next week, I'll be anchoring an event related to human rights. If there's anyone here willing, I'll extend an invite. After the event, I might mention the organization and founder here so people can confirm.

Yet to all these people, I never hide my feelings about these issues. Equal treatment and reaction is what I campaign for.

Lol, and I'm sure fair would be once you fail to secure a positive conviction for a rape accusation, you automatically should do time.

What of EFCC that takes people to court, what happens when they fail to secure a conviction?

There's a process to these things, and a lot of times, failure to secure conviction sometimes means there wasn't enough to fully convince judge/jury, and not that something might not have happened. But regardless, these things are not so straightforward, hence why you don't see counter claims by people that weren't found guilty of rape.

Dr Olufunmilayo is in a first world country, he'd be in the best position to do this thing you're advocating for. Benjamin Mendy nko?

Simi, the rabid feminist, thinks you jumping on your teammate to celebrate a goal is sexual molestation.

Kimberly thinks the Christian God is a rapist for making Mary pregnant.

Kimbeast:
Is the Christian God a Rapist for violating and putting his child into Mary without her consent?

Just an insight into the mind of a rabid feminist you think you can have logical arguments with.

GloriousGbola:
you are a real piece of work.

I meant no disrespect neither was I trying to be offensive. Most Muslim Arabian region practice Bacha bazi. Where young boys dress like women and get raped. It's still ongoing in some region.

DissTroy:
You still don't get it or you're pretending not to.

Women who falsely accuse or are abusers get away with it.

For men, real or falsely accused, the consequences are swift - immediate.

There's a case on frontpage now of a woman who abuse her neighbour's daughter then framed the girl's father to get him jailed since 2022. The original statement of the lady being guilty has been found. She's walking free.

B_Moore in the link above who accused UchedandyMUFC is still walking free.

If Mirabel were a man who had admitted to same-sex relationship, he'd have been jailed.

If Mirabel had admitted to dating men like she admitted to dating women as minor at 17, the men involved would have been fished out and jailed.

You can local-search "Disstroy ràpe" to see me being harsh on rápists, even back in 2019. I ask for cruel punishment for them. Same with false rape accusers.

I've done more for råpe victims than the Kimberly above. I can share screenshots of offering to do promotional designs for an NGO which defends human rights in my state. I had an issue with one of them when I insisted Natasha provide proof of her allegations and I stopped offering them that freedom because I realized the founder was a rabid feminist. Only the other more logical ones now.

Next week, I'll be anchoring an event related to human rights. If there's anyone here willing, I'll extend an invite. After the event, I might mention the organization and founder here so people can confirm.

Yet to all these people, I never hide my feelings about these issues. Equal treatment and reaction is what I campaign for.

When you say equal treatment and reaction, what exactly do you mean?

How is it supposed to play out exactly in the eyes of the law?

The reaction part might be a bit sketch, cause you can't really police what people find exciting to talk about, and it's not something peculiar to cases of false rape accusation.

You de make me vex na 😂😂😂

izzou:
Why are you always picking on me?

Kimbeast:
I meant no disrespect neither was I trying to be offensive. Most Muslim Arabian region practice Bacha bazi. Where young boys dress like women and get raped. It's still ongoing in some region.

and that is how you casually took the actions of some men of afghanistan and decided to tag ALL the muslim men of the world

this is the same binary thinking you are using in your advocacy for false rape accusations.

in the end you are a mirror image of rape apologists driven by agenda rather than resolution

GloriousGbola:
you are a real piece of work.

Theflint1:
When you say equal treatment and reaction, what exactly do you mean?

How is it supposed to play out exactly in the eyes of the law?

The reaction part might be a bit sketch, cause you can't really police what people find exciting to talk about, and it's not something peculiar to cases of false rape accusation.

I think 7 years isn't enough for confirmed rapists. I think they should be maimed by the state so they don't constitute further harm and a deterrence. Same thing to false rape accusers.

The law in China for damaging crimes is mainly to serve as a deterrence.

Sen. Elisha Abbo shouldn't be walking free because that was confirmed as a rapist. That's a start.
Tonto Dike is still associating with Sen.Abbo. Same feminists but they overlook to have access to power.

Now that's an example of a man who deserves the punishment. Investigated and confirmed.

GloriousGbola:
and that is how you casually took the actions of some muslim men of afghanistan and decided to tag ALL the muslim men of the world

this is the same binary thinking you are using in your advocacy for false rape accusations.

in the end you are a mirror image of rape apologists driven by agenda rather than resolution

You are being emotional. I didn't say all Muslim men did I ? I said Catholic priests and Muslim men on young boys. I gave examples of the two groups that has been documented engaging in such activities. I didn't say all Muslim men and Catholic priests commit rape. If I say Nigerian women are beautiful it doesn't mean all the women in Nigeria are beautiful does it? I apologize if you found it offensive as that was never my intention.

Kimbeast:
You are being emotional. I didn't say all Muslim men did I ? I said Catholic priests and Muslim men on young boys. I gave examples of the two groups that has been documented engaging in such activities. I didn't say all Muslim men and Catholic priests commit rape.

this is you casually tagging all catholic priests, all muslim men and then all men.

and somehow while you are casually smearing all men, all catholic priests , all Muslim men with the sexual assault brush , you somehow forgot that there are multiple instances of American female high school teachers sexually abusing teenagers.

GloriousGbola:
this is you casually tagging all catholic priests, all muslim men and then all men.

and somehow while you are casually smearing all men, all catholic priests , all Muslim men with the sexual assault brush , you somehow forgot that there are multiple instances of American female high school teachers sexually abusing teenagers.

You're the one that added all sha

I think what he meant was to highlight the culture of sexual abuse in otherwise sacred spaces, wherein even when confirmed the punishment is no more than a transfer or relief of duties.

GloriousGbola:
this is you casually tagging all catholic priests, all muslim men and then all men.

and somehow while you are casually smearing all men, all catholic priests , all Muslim men with the sexual assault brush , you somehow forgot that there are multiple instances of American female school teachers sexually abusing teenagers.

Sorry to say but the standard of conversation on Nairaland these days is shockingly low. The fact I have to teach you this is seriously alarming. What exactly is you talking about and where did you get " all"from lol. You guys will read A and turn it to Z to push agenda.

Typical

KingTom:
Typical

They thought they were debating with a rational person. Someone who insists your WhatsApp evidence shouldn't save you in court from a false rape allegation and false accusations do not matter within 24 hours is who they want to reason with.

Glad they are finding out who Kimberly really is.

It's seriously difficult to have a well mannered conversation on Nairaland. The comprehension level is soo shallow, I don't know if it's a Nigerian thing because it doesn't occur on other platforms.

" False Rape allegations is a non issue compared to the amount of men who commit rape/Sexual assaults and go scout free with zero consequences."

Nairaland version: He is saying people should not be punished for false allegations.

"Catholic priests and Muslim men commit rape against boys"

Nairaland version: He is saying all Catholic priests and all Muslim men commit rape.

Theflint1:
You're the one that added all sha

I think what he meant was to highlight the culture of sexual abuse in otherwise sacred spaces, wherein even when confirmed the punishment is no more than a transfer or relief of duties.

I am literally dumbfounded lol.

DissTroy:
I think 7 years isn't enough for confirmed rapists. I think they should be maimed by the state so they don't constitute further harm and a deterrence. Same thing to false rape accusers.

The law in China for damaging crimes is mainly to serve as a deterrence.

Sen. Elisha Abbo shouldn't be walking free because that was confirmed as rape. That's a start.
Tonto Dike was still associating with Sen.Abbo.

Now that's an example of a man who deserves the punishment. Investigated and confirmed.

Lol, so anybody that accusses another of rape "falsely" should lose their geniiitalia?

So this 13 year old girl that accussed Elisha Abbo of rape, going by your standard of failure to secure conviction means punishment, he should have gone after her for trying to destroy his life?

This your standard of failure to secure conviction means you should face the punishment the person you accused should have gotten, does it apply only to cases of rape or it extends to "false accusations" of every kind?

Kimbeast:
Sorry to say but the standard of conversation on Nairaland these days is shockingly low. The fact I have to teach you this is seriously alarming. What exactly is you talking about and where did you get " all"from lol. You guys will read A and turn it to Z to push agenda.

wow - you have to outsource your respone to a chatbot ?

no wonder you are capping

hopefully you will not go to grok for celebrity pictures next. i am told that bot has a nice trove of 'anatomically accurate' celeb pictures

you are no different from the red pill brigade who tag ALL women with the same brush at every opportunity. aura for aura.

Theflint1:
You're the one that added all sha


I think what he meant was to highlight the culture of sexual abuse in otherwise sacred spaces, wherein even when confirmed the punishment is no more than a transfer or relief of duties.

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what makes it even more foolish is that the sexual abuse of young boys in Afghanistan is cultural and not linked to Islam in any way. as a matter of fact, if he is actually a person who reads and does not just run to grok or other chat bots for information he would know that post soviet defeat, the taliban became popular because their leaders were the ones who put a stop to Bacha bazi by different military commanders.

also edo men are wkers that fall over for agege bread - now tell me if that statement does not mean all edo men - seeing as i have not put any qualifier

DissTroy:
They thought they were debating with a rational person. Someone who insists your WhatsApp evidence shouldn't save you in court from a false rape allegation and false accusations do not matter within 24 hours is who they want to reason with.

Glad they are finding out who Kimberly really is.

Diggz can't stand the clown at all

GloriousGbola:
wow - you have to outsource your respone to a chatbot ?

no wonder you are capping

hopefully you will not go to grok for celebrity pictures next. i am told that bot has a nice trove of 'anatomically accurate' celeb pictures

you are no different from the red pill brigade who tag ALL women with the same brush at every opportunity. aura for aura.

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Nairaland lmao. Even after showing you you were wrong rather than take correction and move on this is what you are coming up with. It's all good lol.

GloriousGbola:
wow - you have to outsource your respone to a chatbot ?

no wonder you are capping

hopefully you will not go to grok for celebrity pictures next. i am told that bot has a nice trove of 'anatomically accurate' celeb pictures

you are no different from the red pill brigade who tag ALL women with the same brush at every opportunity. aura for aura.



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what makes it even more foolish is that the sexual abuse of young boys in Afghanistan is cultural and not linked to Islam in any way. as a matter of fact, if he is actually a person who reads and does not just run to grok or other chat bots for information he would know that post soviet defeat, the taliban became popular because their leaders were the ones who put a stop to Bacha bazi by different military commanders.

also edo men are wkers that fall over for agege bread - now tell me if that statement does not mean all edo men - seeing as i have not put any qualifier

Lol, we've gotten to the crux of the matter, his reference to Islam is what you have an issue with, cause what he said was clear enough.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacha_bazi

Bacha bazi[1] (Persian[a]: بچه بازی, lit. 'boy play') is a pederastic practice in Afghanistan and in historical Turkestan, in which men exploit and enslave adolescent boys, sometimes for sexual abuse, and/or coerce them to cross-dress in attire traditionally only worn by women and girls and dance for entertainment.[7] The man exploiting the young boy is called a bacha baz (literally "boy player"[3] and the young boy is called a bacha.

https://newlinesinstitute.org/gender-peace-security/what-about-the-boys-a-gendered-analysis-of-the-u-s-withdrawal-and-bacha-bazi-in-afghanistan/

As U.S. troops withdraw from Afghanistan, President Joe Biden must find alternative ways to achieve Washington’s political and strategic goals in the region. The U.S. will likely find ways to engage with Afghanistan outside of the security sector, such as increased diplomacy, economic development, and education assistance. Understanding how the current practice of bacha bazi is linked with the oppression of women’s rights, human rights violations, and pedophilia will be important for the Biden administration as it creates new policy points for the U.S. relationship with Afghanistan. Without an understanding of how these intersecting issues affect Afghan society and policies, U.S. policymakers are missing a key part of the broader picture.

It is also imperative to acknowledge the multifaceted gendered dynamics impacting Afghan society that lead to support, both openly and tacitly, of the Taliban in certain regions. The predatory and abusive nature of some men in the Afghan National Security Forces (ANSF) and the lack of concern on behalf of the U.S. military continues to undermine public support for the U.S.-Afghan partnership in both countries. This is especially at a moment when the Afghan government needs U.S. funding to try and maintain a semblance of stability.

hopefully i have taught some people to look beyond chatbots and broad sweeping statements of ignorance

Theflint1:
He won't win, but you must agree that he has supporters, and they're enough to create the nuisance value they create.

That is why they are engineering low voter turnout so that they can easily manipulate the few

Theflint1:
Lol, we've gotten to the crux of the matter, his reference to Islam is what you have an issue with, cause what he said was clear enough.

i regularly call out Islam for condoning sexual slavery of women - because it is right there in the Quran - [just open to interpretation] but there is NOTHING in the Quran, the Hadith, the practices of Prophet Muhammed [PBUH] or his companions that condones or supports pederasty

Kimbeast should avoid dousing us with ignorance and stick to his men bad women good shtick

some low information fervent believer of chatbot statements will read the rubbish he posted and start arguing confidently that Islam promotes sex with young boys

GloriousGbola:
i regularly call out Islam for condoning sexual slavery of women - because it is right there in the Quran - [just open to interpretation] but there is NOTHING in the Quran, the Hadith, the practices of Prophet Muhammed [PBUH] or his companions that condones or supports pederasty

Kimbeast should avoid dousing us with ignorance and stick to his men bad women good shtick

There's no major religion that doesn't condemn it, doesn't mean these things don't happen within the cloak of religion. In the original post, he mentioned catholic priests as well.

Theflint1:
There's no major religion that doesn't condemn it, doesn't mean these things don't happen within the cloak of religion. In the original post, he mentioned catholic priests as well.

It is not the same thing because catholic priests are authority figures in the church.
he did not say imams, ustaz, shiek, Mallam - he said muslim men

meaning that the same wariness with which boys in the know look at friendly catholic priests should be applied to muslim men.

or let me make it clearer - is saying christian men abuse boys the same as saying catholic priests abuse boys?

Theflint1:
Lol, so anybody that accusses another of rape "falsely" should lose their geniiitalia?

So this 13 year old girl that accussed Elisha Abbo of rape, going by your standard of failure to secure conviction means punishment, he should have gone after her for trying to destroy his life?

This your standard of failure to secure conviction means you should face the punishment the person you accused should have gotten, does it apply only to cases of rape or it extends to "false accusations" of every kind?

My grouse with you and Blueraydick on this issue is, you're like the European Union. You both understand how dangerous Iran (Feminazism) is because you've both admitted they are extremists. You know they are out to destroy the West (men). But you think if you keep being nice, using diplomacy and not being too hard on them and calling for calm and a return to the negotiating table, they will stop trying to destroy you.

You think Iran, because of your insistence on diplomacy and telling the US to go easy on them, will stop targeting your cities through proxies (read "false accusers". Ask Germany (Dr. Olufunmilayo), ask Sweden (UchedandyMUFC), ask others like the Taxify driver.

Yet smart Middle Eastern countries like Saudi Arabia (sane, normal women) are distancing themselves from Iran. You think diplomacy will save you.

Theflint1:
There's no major religion that doesn't condemn it, doesn't mean these things don't happen within the cloak of religion. In the original post, he mentioned catholic priests as well.

You can see the difference in extremism between how christians reacted to Catholic priests and how glorious is reacting to Muslim being mentioned.

Away from the Grape issues, una dey see the doctored and mutilated result sheets wey dem upload for IREV in the Abuja Municipal election?

Na why I no put mouth for the whole amendment of electoral act and electronic transmission of results issue because I felt it was misplaced and a waste of time.

We have to adopt EVMs and go 100% electronic voting and collation of results if we're ever going to have credible elections .