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Re: How Divorce Affects Children In The North (video) by Timoleon(m): 5:26pm On Feb 24
muyico:
Most weren't married legally
Sharial law don't permits ex husband taking cares of upbring
Source?
Re: How Divorce Affects Children In The North (video) by McLizbae: 5:27pm On Feb 24
The movie didn't reach the part where they become terrorists?
Re: How Divorce Affects Children In The North (video) by Mindlog: 5:29pm On Feb 24
gracias124:
Its a skit, and the guy is chasing clout nd looking for engagements. Thats not how it works in reality
How does it work in reality, where the children are catered for after the divorce?
Re: How Divorce Affects Children In The North (video) by alezzy13: 5:30pm On Feb 24
I don't think divorce is a major issue. From my brief experience in the North, the real problem is unbridled child bearing! Chai! Those women can born like eh. . . shocked
Re: How Divorce Affects Children In The North (video) by Mirasteel: 5:45pm On Feb 24
The reality
Re: How Divorce Affects Children In The North (video) by DesireV: 5:50pm On Feb 24
BlackViper:
Typical Life in the North under shariah law where divorce is the exclusive right of the man and he doesn't even need to go to court to get a divorce.

All he has to do is say: "I divorce you" to his wife 3 times in the presence of 2 adult male witnesses and the marriage automatically comes to an end. This is known as "Triple Talaq."

Under Islamic law, the husband can divorce his wife for any reason or for no reason and at any time he feels like doing so.

Meanwhile a Muslim wife can only divorce her husband under one condition and one condition only. This condition is, if he leaves Islam. She cannot divorce him because he's unfaithful to her and she cannot divorce him on the grounds of domestic violence because the koran allows husbands to "discipline" their wives
Why do you talk about what you're clearly ignorant of?
What do you have to gain in this blackmail?
What you have written aren't true. I don't know why non Muslims discuss Islam out of sheer ignorance.
Can't you just let Islam be or say the truth about it?
Re: How Divorce Affects Children In The North (video) by DesireV: 5:54pm On Feb 24
QuinQQ:
But in other places the long, expensive divorce process will make you think twice.
In Sharia man just says "I divorce you" 3 times
This is not correct.
Ask about Islam from Muslims, not just these blackmail you're throwing around.

The concept of pronouncing divorce three times at a single instance is disliked in Islam, even though the divorce stands but not the proper way.

You left the preliminary concepts and went straight to "finality". Isn't that hypocrisy?
Re: How Divorce Affects Children In The North (video) by eteba(m): 6:03pm On Feb 24
The children will then end up as bandits, and the circle continues.
Re: How Divorce Affects Children In The North (video) by DesireV:
BlackViper:
Typical Life in the North under shariah law where divorce is the exclusive right of the man and he doesn't even need to go to court to get a divorce.
Divorce isn't the exclusive right of the man in Islam. Both parties can initiate/seek divorce.
As a matter of fact, no faith discourages dissolution of marriage like Islam. It's like the last option to prevent marital disaster.

BlackViper:
All he has to do is say: "I divorce you" to his wife 3 times in the presence of 2 adult male witnesses and the marriage automatically comes to an end. This is known as "Triple Talaq."
Pronouncing divorce three times at an instance is disliked in Islam, though the divorce stands. It's not the proper way. Witnesses aren't needed.
The marriage ends but there is the concept on 'iddah, only seen in Islam. The divorced wife has to do three menses in the man's house with her basic bills picked by the man 100% during this period. It's like a reconciliation window, to save the marriage. The man can take her back during this period without a new nikkah so far it's not the third divorce. A man can't marry his wife again if he has divorced her 3 times until she marries another man who consummates the marriage. Again, this is like a caution to make the man careful. Iddah is also to ensure the divorced wife isn't pregnant, so that she won't go away with the man's baby. This prevents paternity fraud.

BlackViper:
Under Islamic law, the husband can divorce his wife for any reason or for no reason and at any time he feels like doing so.
Under Islamic law, a person who divorces his or her spouse without genuine reason is sinful. While the marriage stands dissolved here on earth, he or she will face the consequences on the day on judgement.

BlackViper:
Meanwhile a Muslim wife can only divorce her husband under one condition and one condition only. This condition is, if he leaves Islam. She cannot divorce him because he's unfaithful to her and she cannot divorce him on the grounds of domestic violence because the koran allows husbands to "discipline" their wives
Wife can initiate/seek divorce just like the man. It's even more strict on the husband because if she does, there is no iddah for the husband. Also, she has only one card unlike the husband who has three. It's kinda easier for her

There is the role of the shariah court in all matters of marriage to ensure fairness among the parties. The primary goal is to save the marriage. If it doesn't work, that's when a fair dissolution comes in with the interests of the children of the marriage adequately protected.
That someone is cooking with pressing iron doesn't mean it was made for cooking. That someone is practising Islam wrongly doesn't change what Islam represents. You can talk about Islam, if you're knowledgeable about it and what you'll be saying is exactly what Islam is, not that the irresponsible behaviors and practices of some Muslims is Islamic. Be careful not to attract the wrath of the Almighty.
Re: How Divorce Affects Children In The North (video) by bnbash(m): 6:17pm On Feb 24
Your explanation is not completely true. If you dont have knowledge about something its better not to discuss about it.
BlackViper:
Typical Life in the North under shariah law where divorce is the exclusive right of the man and he doesn't even need to go to court to get a divorce.

All he has to do is say: "I divorce you" to his wife 3 times in the presence of 2 adult male witnesses and the marriage automatically comes to an end. This is known as "Triple Talaq."

Under Islamic law, the husband can divorce his wife for any reason or for no reason and at any time he feels like doing so.

Meanwhile a Muslim wife can only divorce her husband under one condition and one condition only. This condition is, if he leaves Islam. She cannot divorce him because he's unfaithful to her and she cannot divorce him on the grounds of domestic violence because the koran allows husbands to "discipline" their wives
Re: How Divorce Affects Children In The North (video) by edogu(m): 6:20pm On Feb 24
It's poverty not divorce.
Re: How Divorce Affects Children In The North (video) by Okwutemaven: 6:21pm On Feb 24
Pour me water abeg grin cheesy




Nwaikpe:
I am a northerner,

And it is true: that is how we behave.
Re: How Divorce Affects Children In The North (video) by WhizdomXX(m): 6:29pm On Feb 24
BlackViper:
Typical Life in the North under shariah law where divorce is the exclusive right of the man and he doesn't even need to go to court to get a divorce.

All he has to do is say: "I divorce you" to his wife 3 times in the presence of 2 adult male witnesses and the marriage automatically comes to an end. This is known as "Triple Talaq."

Under Islamic law, the husband can divorce his wife for any reason or for no reason and at any time he feels like doing so.

Meanwhile a Muslim wife can only divorce her husband under one condition and one condition only. This condition is, if he leaves Islam. She cannot divorce him because he's unfaithful to her and she cannot divorce him on the grounds of domestic violence because the koran allows husbands to "discipline" their wives
AI RESPONSE after I forced it to grin
While your description highlights common practices in Northern Nigeria, Islamic law (Shariah) as applied there and globally provides a more complex set of rights and legal pathways for women than stated.
1. Divorce Rights: Husband vs. Wife
While a husband has the unilateral right to Talaq (repudiation), a wife's rights are not limited to her husband's apostasy. She has several legal avenues:
Ahmadu Bello University
Ahmadu Bello University
+1
Khula (Self-Redemption): The most common form of divorce for women in Northern Nigeria. A wife can initiate this "no-fault" divorce by returning her dower (mahr) or providing other compensation.
Faskh (Judicial Dissolution): A woman can petition a Sharia court for an annulment without the husband's consent or returning the dower. Valid grounds include:
Domestic Violence/Cruelty: Physical, verbal, or emotional abuse (darar) is a recognized legal ground for a judge to dissolve a marriage.
Infidelity: Adultery is considered a grave breach of the marriage contract and valid grounds for divorce.
Failure to Maintain: If a husband fails to provide food, shelter, or clothing.
Desertion or Impotence: Long-term absence or the inability to fulfill marital obligations.
Talaq at-Tafwid: A woman can stipulate in her marriage contract the right to divorce herself, essentially delegating the husband's power of talaq to her.
Wikipedia
Wikipedia
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2. The Status of "Triple Talaq"
Instant Triple Talaq (Talaq-e-Biddat): Pronouncing "I divorce you" three times at once is considered "irregular" or "sinful" by most scholars.
Legal Validity: While some traditional interpretations in Northern Nigeria may still recognize it as an irrevocable divorce, many Islamic jurisdictions and modern legal reforms—including in countries like Egypt, Pakistan, and India—have banned the practice or treat it as only a single, revocable divorce.
Witnesses: Under Maliki law (prevalent in Nigeria), witnesses are required for a valid talaq.
Wikipedia
Wikipedia
+6
3. Domestic Violence and "Discipline"
The claim that a wife cannot divorce due to domestic violence is inaccurate under Shariah jurisprudence:
Prohibition of Harm: Islamic principles strictly forbid causing physical or psychological harm.
Legal Precedent: Jurists across major schools (including Maliki) allow a woman to seek a judicial divorce for harm (tatliq bil-darar). The Prophet Muhammad himself set a precedent by protecting a woman from a husband who beat her.
Limitations on "Discipline": While some traditional texts mention "reprimand," scholars emphasize this must be symbolic, cause no injury, and never target the face. Any act that causes pain or injury is considered a violation of her rights and grounds for legal action.
Faith in Allah
Faith in Allah
+2
Summary of Divorce Modes
Mode Initiator Condition Court Required?
Talaq Husband Unilateral; no reason needed No (but encouraged)
Khula Wife Returns dower (mahr) Often (for mediation)
Faskh Wife Grounds (abuse, neglect, etc.) Yes (Judicial decree)
Mubara'ah Both Mutual agreement
Re: How Divorce Affects Children In The North (video) by occfx: 6:32pm On Feb 24
nlfpmod:


This video shows the sad reality of what happens in the North: the effect divorce has on children.



https://www.instagram.com/reel/DVBHBm4jBv3/?igsh=MWlyNGUzcWxiZm5hbg%3D%3D

Divorce affects kids everywhere but the skit focuses on the North.
Very terrible, there fathers starved Biafran children to death then Karma got angry. They are just the collateral damage. Potential bandits and terrorists
Re: How Divorce Affects Children In The North (video) by WhizdomXX(m): 6:32pm On Feb 24
DesireV:
Divorce isn't the exclusive right of the man in Islam. Both parties can initiate/seek divorce.
As a matter of fact, no faith discourages dissolution of marriage like Islam. It's like the last option to prevent marital disaster.



Pronouncing divorce three times at an instance is disliked in Islam, though the divorce stands. It's not the proper way. Witnesses aren't needed.
The marriage ends but there is the concept on 'iddah, only seen in Islam. The divorced wife has to do three menses in the man's house with her bills picked by the man 100% during this period. It's like a reconciliation window, to save the marriage. The man can take her back during this period without a new nikkah so far it's not the third divorce. A man can't marry his wife again if he has divorced her 3 times until she marries another man who consummates the marriage. Again, this is like a caution to make the man careful. Iddah is also to ensure the divorced wife isn't pregnant, so that she won't go away with the man's baby. This prevents paternity fraud.



Under Islamic law, a person who divorces his or her spouse without genuine reason is sinful. While the marriage stands dissolved here on earth, he or she will face the consequences on the day on judgement.



Wife can initiate divorce just like the man. It's even more strict on the husband because if she does, there is no iddah for the husband. Also, she has only one card unlike the husband who has three. It's kinda easier for her

There is the role of the shariah court in all matters of marriage to ensure fairness among the parties. The primary goal is to save the marriage. If it doesn't work, that's when a fair dissolution comes in.
That someone is cooking with pressing iron doesn't mean it was made for cooking. That someone is practising Islam wrongly doesn't change what Islam represents. You can talk about Islam, if you're knowledgeable about it and what you'll be saying is exactly what Islam is, not that the irresponsible behaviors and practices of some Muslims is Islamic. Be careful not to attract the wrath of the Almighty.
Why having sharia laws that are in conflict with the constitution of Nigeria,
Permit me to digress from the topic. Freedom of association and religion, yet hisbah are arresting people on the streets for not fasting?
Re: How Divorce Affects Children In The North (video) by DesireV: 6:44pm On Feb 24
WhizdomXX:
Why having sharia laws that are in conflict with the constitution of Nigeria,
Permit me to digress from the topic. Freedom of association and religion, yet hisbah are arresting people on the streets for not fasting?
Are you sure you want us to have this topic?
The customary laws protect the traditionalists' beliefs.
The common and civil laws have origins in England and Roman Christianity based laws which protect Christians' beliefs.

Where should the Muslim Nigerians take their affairs? Don't they have the freedom of belief as enshrined in the constitution and international human rights laws?

Shariah laws aren't in conflict with the constitution of Nigeria. The constitution permits shariah law.

Nigerian Muslims are disadvantaged courtesy of the faith based colonialism we had. Missionary was part of the goals of the colonial masters. They gave us our systems which give Christians undue advantage. If anything, the system is "Christianized".
Before colonialism, what do you think our forefathers were doing on Saturdays and Sundays? Now, everyone has to observe these two days as "weekends" against his or her wishes simply because seventh day adherents wanted Saturday and the other Protestants and Orthodox Christians wanted Sunday. Then it became binding on all. This is just one.
Re: How Divorce Affects Children In The North (video) by Kobojunkie: 6:46pm On Feb 24
Thundafireseun:
Divorce affects Children in America, Canada , East, south and west negatively….
Why is the Noth mentioned?
Stop lying! Islamic/Sharia divorce cannot be rationally compared with the Western ideal or even that which is right there in southern Nigeria. undecided
Re: How Divorce Affects Children In The North (video) by WhizdomXX(m): 6:48pm On Feb 24
DesireV:
Are you sure you want us to have this topic?
The customary laws protect the traditionalists' beliefs.
The common and civil laws have origins in England and Roman Christianity based laws which protect Christians' beliefs.

Where should the Muslim Nigerians take their affairs? Don't they have the freedom of belief as enshrined in the constitution and international human rights laws?

Shariah laws aren't in conflict with the constitution of Nigeria. The constitution permits shariah law.

Nigerian Muslims are disadvantaged courtesy of the faith based colonialism we had. Missionary was part of the goals of the colonial masters. They gave us our systems which give Christians undue advantage. If anything, the system is "Christianized".
Before colonialism, what do you think our forefathers were doing on Saturdays and Sundays? Now, everyone has to observe these two days as "weekends" against our wishes simply because seventh day adherents wants Saturday and the other Protestants and Orthodox Christians want Sunday. This is just one.
Those are the pains we must accept for the country to grow. If not, igbos will as well be able to leave the country freely.
Sharia cannot supercede the clause of freedom of religion and association in the constitution. No christain or customary does that. It is contrary to terms of natural justice, equity and good conscience
Ps: I am having this conversation with you here online, cause I know I can't do it today in Kano, if not I may be stoned to death or burnt, it's very sad.
Re: How Divorce Affects Children In The North (video) by Okwutemaven: 7:04pm On Feb 24
Nah wetin dey cause almanjaris for core north be this cheesy


for their 12 nonsense Sharia state grin grin grin
Re: How Divorce Affects Children In The North (video) by BlackViper: 7:06pm On Feb 24
My post is based on the classic fiqh or Shariah law on divorce, not the modernised version of divorce which the Ottomans borrowed from the French and other secular societies.

Many prominent Islamic scholars uphold the idea that divorce is something meant only for the husband to use against his wives:


1. Ibn Qudāmah (Hanbali)

In al-Mughnī:

“Divorce (ṭalāq) is in the hand of the husband; it does not belong to the woman.”

Hanbali law consistently held that ṭalāq is the husband’s exclusive right unless he delegates it.

2. Ibn Rushd (Maliki)

In Bidāyat al-Mujtahid:

"They agreed that divorce is in the hand of the husband and not in the hand of the wife.”

He presents this as a point of juristic consensus (ijmāʿ) regarding ṭalāq authority.

3. Al-Kāsānī (Hanafi)

In Badā’iʿ al-Ṣanā’iʿ:

“The one who possesses the divorce is the husband.”

The Hanafi school explicitly denied that a woman may independently issue ṭalāq unless authority was delegated to her.

4. Al-Nawawī (Shafi‘i)

In Rawḍat al-Ṭālibīn:

“Divorce is the right of the husband.”

The Shafi‘i position also holds that ṭalāq originates with the husband.

WhizdomXX:
AI RESPONSE after I forced it to grin
While your description highlights common practices in Northern Nigeria, Islamic law (Shariah) as applied there and globally provides a more complex set of rights and legal pathways for women than stated.
1. Divorce Rights: Husband vs. Wife
While a husband has the unilateral right to Talaq (repudiation), a wife's rights are not limited to her husband's apostasy. She has several legal avenues:
Ahmadu Bello University
Ahmadu Bello University
+1
Khula (Self-Redemption): The most common form of divorce for women in Northern Nigeria. A wife can initiate this "no-fault" divorce by returning her dower (mahr) or providing other compensation.
Faskh (Judicial Dissolution): A woman can petition a Sharia court for an annulment without the husband's consent or returning the dower. Valid grounds include:
Domestic Violence/Cruelty: Physical, verbal, or emotional abuse (darar) is a recognized legal ground for a judge to dissolve a marriage.
Infidelity: Adultery is considered a grave breach of the marriage contract and valid grounds for divorce.
Failure to Maintain: If a husband fails to provide food, shelter, or clothing.
Desertion or Impotence: Long-term absence or the inability to fulfill marital obligations.
Talaq at-Tafwid: A woman can stipulate in her marriage contract the right to divorce herself, essentially delegating the husband's power of talaq to her.
Wikipedia
Wikipedia
+8
2. The Status of "Triple Talaq"
Instant Triple Talaq (Talaq-e-Biddat): Pronouncing "I divorce you" three times at once is considered "irregular" or "sinful" by most scholars.
Legal Validity: While some traditional interpretations in Northern Nigeria may still recognize it as an irrevocable divorce, many Islamic jurisdictions and modern legal reforms—including in countries like Egypt, Pakistan, and India—have banned the practice or treat it as only a single, revocable divorce.
Witnesses: Under Maliki law (prevalent in Nigeria), witnesses are required for a valid talaq.
Wikipedia
Wikipedia
+6
3. Domestic Violence and "Discipline"
The claim that a wife cannot divorce due to domestic violence is inaccurate under Shariah jurisprudence:
Prohibition of Harm: Islamic principles strictly forbid causing physical or psychological harm.
Legal Precedent: Jurists across major schools (including Maliki) allow a woman to seek a judicial divorce for harm (tatliq bil-darar). The Prophet Muhammad himself set a precedent by protecting a woman from a husband who beat her.
Limitations on "Discipline": While some traditional texts mention "reprimand," scholars emphasize this must be symbolic, cause no injury, and never target the face. Any act that causes pain or injury is considered a violation of her rights and grounds for legal action.
Faith in Allah
Faith in Allah
+2
Summary of Divorce Modes
Mode Initiator Condition Court Required?
Talaq Husband Unilateral; no reason needed No (but encouraged)
Khula Wife Returns dower (mahr) Often (for mediation)
Faskh Wife Grounds (abuse, neglect, etc.) Yes (Judicial decree)
Mubara'ah Both Mutual agreement
Re: How Divorce Affects Children In The North (video) by Lovit(m): 7:07pm On Feb 24
FEAR NORTH

It is in the bible shocked
Re: How Divorce Affects Children In The North (video) by Okwutemaven: 7:10pm On Feb 24
Abeg Pour me water grin grin grin





jeff1993:
This is worse .... The children automatically are pushed to worthless alfas who indoctrinates them and use them as political nonsense to wage war on based on idiotic religious beliefs of their so called prophets.

That is how Boko boys, ISIS and Lakurawas are formed
Re: How Divorce Affects Children In The North (video) by bizzibodi(m): 7:43pm On Feb 24
Thundafireseun:
Divorce affects Children in America, Canada , East, south and west negatively….

Why is the Noth mentioned?
North is the case study here
Re: How Divorce Affects Children In The North (video) by bizzibodi(m): 7:46pm On Feb 24
AdolfHitlerxXx:
Divorce culture in the North is crazy. Especially in Kano.

Saw men divorce their wives over tea being too cold. Talaq, Talaq and Talaq... You don land for your Papa house.

Only there will you see a man divorce a pregnant woman. She too as soon she can force the baby to wean, she can go and drop off the baby at their gate even with the maiguard!

Where I come from, you will be forced to stay with her at least till after she delivers.

In Kano, I know a rich man whose first 2 wives are safe because they are his cousins and the extended family wouldn't take it. The other wives 3 &4, soon as they get pregnant, they seem to irritate him because he divorces them. He's done this over 20 times. I know a Bauchi woman with 9 different husbands. 3 of them on the same street shocked

Divorce isn't stigmatized and women use their fathers names so it's easy to hide if you don't do your homework.

I was house hunting at a point and saw a very well furnished apartment. Was wondering about the brand new electronics when agent told it was a couple who married 3 months previously but before moving into the house, they had divorced.

Side-pieces aren't really permitted, you marry her in, unlike Southern men get away with. But Northern men will marry a specific lady simply to taste the sugar. 6 months after when she's shown she can't even lay the bed... She gets her 3 Talaqs.
This is a mockery of marriage,this is promiscuity
Re: How Divorce Affects Children In The North (video) by ChngedChnges(m): 7:48pm On Feb 24
DesireV:
Are you sure you want us to have this topic?
The customary laws protect the traditionalists' beliefs.
The common and civil laws have origins in England and Roman Christianity based laws which protect Christians' beliefs.

Where should the Muslim Nigerians take their affairs? Don't they have the freedom of belief as enshrined in the constitution and international human rights laws?

Shariah laws aren't in conflict with the constitution of Nigeria. The constitution permits shariah law.

Nigerian Muslims are disadvantaged courtesy of the faith based colonialism we had. Missionary was part of the goals of the colonial masters. They gave us our systems which give Christians undue advantage. If anything, the system is "Christianized".
Before colonialism, what do you think our forefathers were doing on Saturdays and Sundays? Now, everyone has to observe these two days as "weekends" against his or her wishes simply because seventh day adherents wanted Saturday and the other Protestants and Orthodox Christians wanted Sunday. Then it became binding on all. This is just one.
Good write up. Then I ask, if there's political disputes between 2 candidates of non Christian background why don't they take it to the sharia court since the whole system is Christianized?
Re: How Divorce Affects Children In The North (video) by Kobojunkie: 7:48pm On Feb 24
bizzibodi:
➜This is a mockery of marriage,this is promiscuity
It is no mockery! It is an Islamic kind of marriage. 🥱🥱🥱
Re: How Divorce Affects Children In The North (video) by Kobojunkie: 7:50pm On Feb 24
@DesireV, please stop lying against your Quran. It is only women who have issues and sins when it comes to divorce. That is as clearly stated in several passages in your Quran. A man can literally divorce a man without even needing to set foot in Sharia court, and he does not need to answer to anyone as far as his decision is concerned. This is according to Mohammed in the Quran you claim to follow. 🥱🥱
Re: How Divorce Affects Children In The North (video) by DesireV: 7:51pm On Feb 24
WhizdomXX:
Those are the pains we must accept for the country to grow. If not, igbos will as well be able to leave the country freely.
Sharia cannot supercede the clause of freedom of religion and association in the constitution. No christain or customary does that. It is contrary to terms of natural justice, equity and good conscience
Ps: I am having this conversation with you here online, cause I know I can't do it today in Kano, if not I may be stoned to death or burnt, it's very sad.
Muslims should sacrifice their faith? This is easy to say because the common law upon which our system is based favours you. Flip positions and imagine it.

Personally, I support the Igbos or any group's right to freedom. So far it's the wish of the majority. I don't believe any group should sacrifice their freedom of anything for whatever reason.

If you will be stoned in Kano for discussing a topic of interest, that's Kano, not shariah.
Again, shariah doesn't contradict any provision of our constitution. If it does is anyway, make adequate references to the shariah provision that contradicts which specific constitutional provision.

The issue really is non Muslims using certain practices by some Muslims to judge Islam as a whole. This isn't fair. Kano isn't the only state in this country where shariah is adopted. Hisbah activities vary across the 12 northern states that adopted shariah. Infact, it existed only on paper in Borno. Each state has its legal framework for shariah. Northern Nigerian isn't the only region where shariah has been adopted. There are countries with Islam as state religion and shariah as the legal system. Non Muslims live in these countries without having to sacrifice anything.

Out of intolerance, rather than interrogate the real issues, non Muslims call the dog a bad name, so that it can be killed. Instead of them to find out exactly what shariah law's position is on matters, they reference what some people do under the guise of shariah and parade it as shariah.
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