₦airaland Forum

alezzy13:
I don't think divorce is a major issue. From my brief experience in the North, the real problem is unbridled child bearing! Chai! Those women can born like eh. . .

They are linked together. When those young girls get married and divorce, they keep remarrying and give birth to some of the new husbands. There is a large propensity to have a child for a new husband. I agree multiple children they cant take care is most likely the biggest problem in the core north, but root cause is religion and divorce rules under the said religion.

DesireV:
Muslims should sacrifice their faith? This is easy to say because the common law upon which our system is based favours you. Flip positions and imagine it.

Personally, I support the Igbos or any group's right to freedom. So far it's the wish of the majority. I don't believe any group should sacrifice their freedom of anything for whatever reason.

If you will be stoned in Kano for discussing a topic of interest, that's Kano, not shariah.
Again, shariah doesn't contradict any provision of our constitution. If it does is anyway, make adequate references to the shariah provision that contradicts which specific constitutional provision.

The issue really is non Muslims using certain practices by some Muslims to judge Islam as a whole. This isn't fair. Kano isn't the only state in this country where shariah is adopted. Hisbah activities vary across the 12 northern states that adopted shariah. Infact, it existed only on paper in Borno. Each state has its legal framework for shariah. Northern Nigerian isn't the only region where shariah has been adopted. There are countries with Islam as state religion and shariah as the legal system. Non Muslims live in these countries without having to sacrifice anything.

Out of intolerance, rather than interrogate the real issues, non Muslims call the dog a bad name, so that it can be killed. Instead of them to find out exactly what shariah law's position is on matters, they reference what some people do under the guise of shariah and parade it as shariah.

Anyone advocating for a practice suited for the 16th century at best in the 21st century is unfit for the current society. Most of the Sharia practices are repugnant and not fit for modern day living, and it is not in religion only, it applies to backward cultureas well . A good example of retrogressive culture that is causing chaos and disaster in Nigeria is the fulani culture of rearing cows that is not in tune with modern world. If you think with growing population, growth and civilization, becoming a nomad on any available land is a sustainable culture, you are unfit to be related with. The fulani herdsman still wants to live as early man, with little or no value for human lives and claim it is culture. To hell with any religion or culture that refuses to make modification.

alezzy13:
I don't think divorce is a major issue. From my brief experience in the North, the real problem is unbridled child bearing! Chai! Those women can born like eh. . .

Unbridled childbearing is a result of the religion of Islam, which condemns the use of family planning or pregnancy prevention of any kind. 🥱🥱

emiye:
Anyone advocating for a practice suited for the 16th century at best in the 21st century is unfit for the current society. Most of the Sharia practices are repugnant and not fit for modern day living, and it is not in religion only, it applies to backward cultureas well . A good example of retrogressive culture that is causing chaos and disaster in Nigeria is the fulani culture of rearing cows that is not in tune with modern world. If you think with growing population, growth and civilization, becoming a nomad on any available land is a sustainable culture, you are unfit to be related with. The fulani still wants to live as early man, with little or no value for human lives and claim it is culture. To hell with any religion or culture that refuses to make modification.

Islam is a religion that is built on the ideas of 7th century, not the 16th century, Arab man with a complex who believed himself to be the perfect model for all of humanity. Mohammedans are individuals who strive to live according to the ideals of this same 7th century man, following his every command and teachings. 🥱

DesireV:
Why do you talk about what you're clearly ignorant of?
What do you have to gain in this blackmail?
What you have written aren't true. I don't know why non Muslims discuss Islam out of sheer ignorance.
Can't you just let Islam be or say the truth about it?

Notice how you didn't tell us what is true. Because you know it is true. If a man says talaq three times the marriage is over. See it circled below

Kobojunkie:
Islam is a religion that is built on the ideas of 7th century, not the 16th century, Arab man with a complex who believed himself to be the perfect model for all of humanity. Mohammedans are individuals who strive to live according to the ideals of this same 7th century man, following his every command and teachings. 🥱

In normal course of things wouldn't this be considered some sort of madness?

Gerrard59:
This is much better and thank you for your explanation.

It is a deceptive explanation. If Islam is all about saving marriages ask DesireV why the divorce rate in the capital of Islam (Saudi Arabia) is so high

QuinQQ:
It is a deceptive explanation. If Islam is all about saving marriages ask DesireV why the divorce rate in the capital of Islam (Saudi Arabia) is so high

I was thankful that he explained the concept rather than just accusing others of lying without expressing his side. As for divorce, nothing new about it in Islam. Kano has the highest rate of divorce in Nigeria. Apparently, the law/religion promotes easy divorce.

BlackViper:
Typical Life in the North under shariah law where divorce is the exclusive right of the man and he doesn't even need to go to court to get a divorce.

All he has to do is say: "I divorce you" to his wife 3 times in the presence of 2 adult male witnesses and the marriage automatically comes to an end. This is known as "Triple Talaq."

Under Islamic law, the husband can divorce his wife for any reason or for no reason and at any time he feels like doing so.

Meanwhile a Muslim wife can only divorce her husband under one condition and one condition only. This condition is, if he leaves Islam. She cannot divorce him because he's unfaithful to her and she cannot divorce him on the grounds of domestic violence because the koran allows husbands to "discipline" their wives

In every marriage and divorce pronouncement and declaration is a key but the procedures differ, concentrate on your own, we don't expect you to love our religion but please mind your business, it's called tolerance

Unfortunately, divorce is too easy because they only need to make the pronouncement three times and the marriage is dissolved.

Mariangeles:
Chai!
Sad reality.

That is how they end up having so many almajiris on the streets, because of some selfish, irresponsible adults.

park well divorce happened everywhere in the world, so you the west should not get it twisted and have it negative impact everywhere not north only.

So na dis thing dey cause the spread of Almajaris

We're more than happy to focus on our own and one day, we will have our own country to focus on.

Lovenorth:
In every marriage and divorce pronouncement and declaration is a key but the procedures differ, concentrate on your own, we don't expect you to love our religion but please mind your business, it's called tolerance

AdolfHitlerxXx:
Divorce culture in the North is crazy. Especially in Kano.

Saw men divorce their wives over tea being too cold. Talaq, Talaq and Talaq... You don land for your Papa house.

Only there will you see a man divorce a pregnant woman. She too as soon she can force the baby to wean, she can go and drop off the baby at their gate even with the maiguard!

Where I come from, you will be forced to stay with her at least till after she delivers.

In Kano, I know a rich man whose first 2 wives are safe because they are his cousins and the extended family wouldn't take it. The other wives 3 &4, soon as they get pregnant, they seem to irritate him because he divorces them. He's done this over 20 times. I know a Bauchi woman with 9 different husbands. 3 of them on the same street

Divorce isn't stigmatized and women use their fathers names so it's easy to hide if you don't do your homework.

I was house hunting at a point and saw a very well furnished apartment. Was wondering about the brand new electronics when agent mentioned that it was a couple who married 3 months previously but before moving into the house, they had divorced.

Side-pieces aren't really permitted, you marry her in, unlike Southern men get away with. But Northern men will marry a specific lady simply to taste the sugar. 6 months after when she's shown she can't even lay the bed... She gets her 3 Talaqs.

People who have not spent time in this places might think you are exaggerating.

you see that Kano, the headquarters of divorce in Nigeria. Even fellow Northerners are hesitant to marry Men from kano because the perception is that they don't even regard it seriously. SOme of then marry women and dump them the way a southern man might pick girlfriends

muyico:
Most weren't married legally
Sharial law don't permits ex husband taking cares of upbring

Are you a Muslim?
Can you shed more light on what you just said

Gerrard59:
I was thankful that he explained the concept rather than just accusing others of lying without expressing his side. As for divorce, nothing new about it in Islam. Kano has the highest rate of divorce in Nigeria. Apparently, the law/religion promotes easy divorce.

No mind am. Islam is all about saving marriage my arse.

This your signature sef. Ya think maybe it's time for an update?

QuinQQ:
No mind am. Islam is all about saving marriage my arse.

This your signature sef. Ya think maybe it's time for an update?

The Buhari's aspect? I really don't see myself removing it. At best, I shorten it. That man was a disaster! And those who campaigned and voted for him are people I would have a jaundiced view of.

@Lovenorth , pointing out an obvious reason for a problem is not intolerance but addressing the situation as it presents itself. Skating around the facts is not tolerance but ignorance. 🥱🥱

BlackViper:
Typical Life in the North under shariah law where divorce is the exclusive right of the man and he doesn't even need to go to court to get a divorce.

All he has to do is say: "I divorce you" to his wife 3 times in the presence of 2 adult male witnesses and the marriage automatically comes to an end. This is known as "Triple Talaq."

Under Islamic law, the husband can divorce his wife for any reason or for no reason and at any time he feels like doing so.

Meanwhile a Muslim wife can only divorce her husband under one condition and one condition only. This condition is, if he leaves Islam. She cannot divorce him because he's unfaithful to her and she cannot divorce him on the grounds of domestic violence because the koran allows husbands to "discipline" their wives

Such confidence in your ignorance!!!. Wow, anyone who does not know any better will think you are an authority on this topic. A woman in islam can divorce her husband even WITHOUT a reason. A simple Google search would have given light to your blind and bias and ignorant take

Musty112:
➜Such confidence in your ignorance!!!. Wow, anyone who does not know any better will think you are an authority on this topic. A woman in islam can divorce her husband even WITHOUT a reason. A simple Google search would have given light to your blind and bias and ignorant take

. Please, stop lying! 🥱🥱

Almost all of the over 30 different versions of the Quran out there insist that a woman must first apply for divorce and have her application approved, sometimes by her very husband, before she can be granted divorce. 🥱🥱🥱

Kobojunkie:
. Please, stop lying! 🥱🥱

Almost all of the over 30 different versions of the Quran out there insist that a woman must first apply for divorce and have her application approved, sometimes by her very husband, before she can be granted divorce. 🥱🥱🥱

Haha, what kind of people are these ones. For one, to show how ignorant there is only a version of the holy Quran!!.
Secondly in any of your supposed 30 versions, bring out the verse of the quran to support you claim. At least show that someone somewhere sacrificed something to get you educated. Don't disgrace them by pandering around these blatant falsehood.

Musty112:
➜Haha, what kind of people are these ones. For one, to show how ignorant there is only a version of the holy Quran!!.
➜ Secondly in any of your supposed 30 versions, bring out the verse of the quran to support you claim. At least show that someone somewhere sacrificed something to get you educated.
➜ Don't disgrace them by pandering around these blatant falsehood.

I started reading the Quran again in January of 2026, and this time with the help of the Haddiths to provide for better contextual understanding. So, ignorance... none of that applies here. 🥱🥱

2. Yes, there are over 30 versions of the Quran still out there. The Quran was never just one book.

Narrated Anas bin Malik:

Hudhaifa bin Al-Yaman came to Uthman at the time when the people of Sham and the people of Iraq were Waging war to conquer Arminya and Adharbijan. Hudhaifa was afraid of their (the people of Sham and Iraq) differences in the recitation of the Qur'an, so he said to 'Uthman, "O chief of the Believers! Save this nation before they differ about the Book (Quran) as Jews and the Christians did before." So 'Uthman sent a message to Hafsa saying, "Send us the manuscripts of the Qur'an so that we may compile the Qur'anic materials in perfect copies and return the manuscripts to you." Hafsa sent it to 'Uthman. 'Uthman then ordered Zaid bin Thabit, 'Abdullah bin AzZubair, Said bin Al-As and 'AbdurRahman bin Harith bin Hisham to rewrite the manuscripts in perfect copies. 'Uthman said to the three Quraishi men, "In case you disagree with Zaid bin Thabit on any point in the Qur'an, then write it in the dialect of Quraish, the Qur'an was revealed in their tongue." They did so, and when they had written many copies, 'Uthman returned the original manuscripts to Hafsa. 'Uthman sent to every Muslim province one copy of what they had copied, and ordered that all the other Qur'anic materials, whether written in fragmentary manuscripts or whole copies, be burnt. Said bin Thabit added, "A Verse from Surat Ahzab was missed by me when we copied the Qur'an and I used to hear Allah's Apostle reciting it. So we searched for it and found it with Khuzaima bin Thabit Al-Ansari. (That Verse was): 'Among the Believers are men who have been true in their covenant with Allah.' (Quran 33.23) Sahih Al-Bukhari Vol. 6, Book 61, Verse 510

Fortunately for mankind, at least 30 of those different versions of the Quran that existed during the time of even the first Caliph...

Narrated Zaid bin Thabit:
Abu Bakr sent for me and said, "You used to write the Divine Revelations for Allah's Apostle: So you should search for (the Qur'an and collect) it." I started searching for the Qur'an till I found the last two Verses of Surat At-Tauba with Abi Khuzaima Al-Ansari, and I could not find these Verses with anybody other than him. (They were):

'Verily, there has come unto you an Apostle (Muhammad) from amongst yourselves. It grieves him that you should receive any injury or difficulty ...' (Quran9.128-129) [Sahih Al-Bukhari Vol. 6, Book 61, Verse 511]

...survived until even now. And you can now purchase any of them on Amazon in several languages. 🥱🥱

3. Back to the issue at hand. Talaq applies only to the man seeking to divorce his wife. As for the woman, she has to apply for a divorce to be granted to her either by her husband or by a court. 🥱🥱

DesireV:
Yes, in a secular state that operates multiple legal systems.
Remember it's democracy, government of choice.

That is why sharia is not necessary and will never work no elites will subject themselves to shari'a law....the same Muslims who advocate for the law don't want to be tried by the law.

Kobojunkie:
Wrong! It does not allow the woman. Rather, it allows the man to sample as many women as he chooses. The women are victims of circumstance in all of it. That a woman is married to one man today and thrown away by him the next day, only for another man to come along and marry her— rinse and repeat— does not mean the woman is allowed anything. She isn't ultimately the one choosing any of it. She is literally only able to go along with the ride-along as she can.

2. Wrong! A man can only divorce his wife if and only if her request for divorce is approved by a court of men or by her husband. Otherwise, she has to stay married to the man until he gets tired of her. It is never the woman to cause the man, rather it is the man's desire or dislike or whatever else that pushes the man to wish to divorce her. If the man hates her so, he could falsely accuse her of adultery and have her humiliated and all. So, again, it is not the woman but the man in charge.

You are beating about the bush no Muslim man will keep a woman if she annoys him,refuse to perform her wifely duties,left herself unkempt,refuse to cook well...he will be compel to give her tripleT.

bizzibodi:
➜You are beating about the bush no Muslim man will keep a woman if she annoys him,refuse to perform her wifely duties,left herself unkempt,refuse to cook well...he will be compel to give her tripleT.

A Mohammedan does not need any of those reasons listed to invoke "Talaq" on a woman three times to get her out of his way. He only needs to have some sort of dislike or detest, even if unfounded, to do it. That is what the Quran says, and that is what we see happening out there in the Northern states and many other Islamic countries out there.🥱🥱

Kobojunkie:
A Mohammedan does not need any of those reasons listed to invoke "Talaq" on a woman three times to get her out of his way. He only needs to have some sort of dislike or detest, even if unfounded, to do it. That is what the Quran says, and that is what we see happening out there in the Northern states and many other Islamic countries out there.🥱🥱

Are you a Muslim?

bizzibodi:
✓ Are you a Muslim?

Sirah Rasullulah, The Quran(all over 30 different versions of it) and the numerous Hadiths are online for anyone out there to learn all they wish to about Islam and the root of the many beliefs within the system. 🤔