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Goosethetruth:
After a long break,you are back with your falsehood agenda and propaganda.
You have always shown yourself to be a propaganndist,gaslighter and an enabler of terror on these boards.
Decree 34 of 1966 abolished the regions and centralised everything under Ironsi. It was the begining of centrslisation of everything under Ironsi's tribalistic regime. Check what Ironsi did in the Universities of Lagos and Ibadan. It was total cultural,and educational subjugation and annihilation of the Yoruba in the name of Federalism.
Stop trying to rewrite history please.

You don't comment on issues you know little about.

Aguiyi ironsi wasn't tribalistic,but was trying to build a new nation reeling from January 15 coup. Unfortunately, centrifugal forces set in and put paid his ambition.

The northern officers in cahoots with emirs and community leaders instigated pogroms which ultimately consumed the nation. The follow up was civil war and total conflagration of Nigerian state.

You were not born in then. So, stop your posturing.

What led to the pogrom still playing out today.

buttlover:
He wasn't biased. He included all tribes to govern their respective regions. Tinubu's government is all about Yoruba

Wait for your turn
And if you can't wait lagoon is there for you or any transformer in your area.

AguluLiar:
You and your blothers can continue to deceive yourselves.

Ironsi abolished the regional system of government.

What he did was unify the civil service as against the policy of North for Northerners introduced by Ahmadu Bello. He even planned on sending non native military administrators to the regions as was later done by other military governments that came later

Goosethetruth:
When you tell me the details of Decree 34 of 1966 or post a screen shot of it,I will tell you what Ojukwu?Katsina,Fajuyi and Ejoor were doing.
It doesn't change thr fact that Ironsi was an alcoholic, beer guzzling tribalist whose agenda was promotion of a tribalistic Ibo hegemony. A mere glance at the composition of Ironsi's cabinet tells the harsh story.

Ok.

Now, what do you say of Tinubu's regime where virtually strategic appointments are skewed in favor of Yorubas?

I have said you know nothing about 1966 coup, except fable tales from your parents.

Ask questions before you come to public domain to yarn lies and falsehood.

lawani:
I have actually read a book whose author I can't remember now where at the planning stage, the Northerners said the head of state must not be killed in the North but in Ibadan. They chose Ibadan deliberately because Ironsi's office was not in Ibadan.
They saw an opportunity and they took it or they waited for him to have an engagement in Ibadan?

My bro,you should remember if truly what you are saying is true.

Ironsi was on a visit to all regions and he decided to start from the SW which he started from Ibadan. Maybe they could not kill him in Lagos because nigha was afraid and a coward where he used to go sleep at on the Naval boat and he sleeps there everynight..

So saying otherwise by saying they choose Ibadan doesnt make he true at all,the opportunity showed up for them to do what they had to do

To

AndroBlaze:
With AI and all the things we have available their is absolutely no need for this level of laziness.

I have dropped his speech, the link to his speech and even put in bold the parts you told clear untruths on. However, I am 100% certain, someone would have corrected you before but you continue to insist on spreading falsehoods as you cannot handle the truth and what it means despite you seeing evidence of it every day.



https://www.dawodu.com/articles/ironsis-broadcast-to-the-nation-may-24-1966-1360#:~:text=1966%2C%20which%20I%20have%20signed,be%20buried%20along%20with%20the

Thanks for the insight.

Very incisive and enlightening.

Salute 👏

shortgun:
You are very ignorant and swallow.
The name Biafra was derived from the Bight of Biafra... a recognized geographical term long before the civil war. Nations are not required to bear names in a local dialect to have legitimacy. Many countries across the world have names that predate their modern ethnic compositions.

You are the deluded one if you think during wartime a sovereign entity should not issues its own currency. It's idiotic for a government fighting for survival continue to rely on the currency of it's enemies.
Every decision His Excellency General Chukwuemeka Odumegwu Ojukwu took was very perfect in every since. This is why he remains our hero till infinity. You can go and die

But he begged to return to Nigeria and said he regretted fighting the war...
Ojukwu quote "I led the first war to keep the Igbo alive; I will lead the second war to keep the Igbo in Nigeria."

lawani:
What you are saying is that they came there planning to kill him because he participated in the coup and that it was just a coincidence that they also came to kill Ironsi.
You may also say that he did not object to the counter coupists assassinating the head of state in the government house of the western region? He did not object at all. He agreed but yet he was killed?

It is really unfortunate. If you say this in public, I would take you to court and extract money from you if I were Col Fajuyi's son. I would make sure to at least make you poorer

A simple question for you.

If he was not one of the targets of northern soldiers,why was he killed when they could have just killed their target and left, did Fajuyi confront them on gun battle and was killed,why northern soldiers Killed him when the could have gone with only ironsi?

The lies that he asked Northern soldiers to kill him doesn't make sense, and is already stale.


Even Fajuyi sons can't prove the lies you people have been propagating for years.

loveth360:
A simple question for you.

If he was not one of the targets of northern soldiers,why was he killed when they could have just killed their target and left, did Fajuyi confront them on gun battle and was killed,why northern soldiers Killed him when the could have gone with only ironsi?

The lies that he asked Northern soldiers to kill him doesn't make sense, and is already stale.


Even Fajuyi sons can't prove the lies you people have been propagating for years.

I don't understand your argument. Would Fajuyi be the first person to be killed in a coup who was not a target? Wives of politicians and wives of military officers have been killed in coups for obstructing the mutineers but it is only Ironsi an officer that was armed that is a surprise to you?

Kewekubosineh:
Ok.

Now, what do you say of Tinubu's regime where virtually strategic appointments are skewed in favor of Yorubas?

I have said you know nothing about 1966 coup, except fable tales from your parents.

Ask questions before you come to public domain to yarn lies and falsehood.

Stop thinking everybody on Nairaland ifs your age mate. Some of us lived through these events.
Now telk me the content of Decree 34 of 1966.
Did Decree 34 of 1966 abolish the regions and centralise government under Aguiyi Ironsi or not?

lawani:
I don't understand your argument. Would Fajuyi be the first person to be killed in a coup who was not a target? Wives of politicians and wives of military officers have been killed in coups for obstructing the mutineers but it is only Ironsi an officer that was armed that is a surprise to you?

The fact is Fajuyi was killed by northern soldiers.


He didn't die for any Igbo man.


You guys should stop that lie,if he was killed for obstructing the coup,that doesn't make it he asked Northern soldiers to kill him for Igbo man

AguluLiar:
You and your blothers can continue to deceive yourselves.

Ironsi abolished the regional system of government.

There nothing to deceive. The question is simple. If Ironsi abolished the 4 Regions Nigeria had, what Regions were Katsina, Fajuyi, Ejoor and Ojukwu governing the day Ironsi died?

Lifestone:
Respond to the Aguyi speech posted above, let me hear you reaction

Im not going to a speech I dont know if Ironsi made. But even if he indeed made it, what matters is what he did, not what he said.

The question is simple. If Ironsi abolished the 4 Regions Nigeria had, what Regions were Katsina, Fajuyi, Ejoor and Ojukwu governing the day Ironsi died?

AguluLiar:
You and your blothers can continue to deceive yourselves.

Ironsi abolished the regional system of government.

The question is simple. If Ironsi abolished the 4 Regions Nigeria had, what Regions were Katsina, Fajuyi, Ejoor and Ojukwu governing the day Ironsi died?

Goosethetruth:
Stop thinking everybody on Nairaland ifs your age mate. Some of us lived through these events.
Now telk me the content of Decree 34 of 1966.
Did Decree 34 of 1966 abolish the regions and centralise government under Aguiyi Ironsi or not?

You think everybody on nairaland is your age mate?

Note that I witnessed the civil war. No stories. Unlike you Who are new generation breed.

So, stop challenging me. We're not mates. I witnessed the civil war and my narration is factual.

I will come to educate you on Decree 34 soon.

Kewekubosineh:
You don't comment on issues you know little about.

Aguiyi ironsi wasn't tribalistic,but was trying to build a new nation reeling from January 15 coup. Unfortunately, centrifugal forces set in and put paid his ambition.

The northern officers in cahoots with emirs and community leaders instigated pogroms which ultimately consumed the nation. The follow up was civil war and total conflagration of Nigerian state.

You were not born in then. So, stop your posturing.

What led to the pogrom still playing out today.

Kid,
I was born then.
In fact I am quite sure I am older than your father.
You are just over zealous and mixing up different events. Go and buy good history books and brush up your little knowledge before trying to engage me about Nigeria history.

loveth360:
The fact is Fajuyi was killed by northern soldiers.


He didn't die for any Igbo man.


You guys should stop that lie,if he was killed for obstructing the coup,that doesn't make it he asked Northern soldiers to kill him for Igbo man

If the coup was not planned to take place in his headquarters at Ibadan, he will probably still be alive today as an old man. He would have lived to train his children. He was killed because he obstructed the counter coupists. They had no other reason to kill him. He did not kill any of them and he didn't participate in any coup and there are people who actually participated in the coup that lived to an old age. If such people had been western region governor they would have stood a chance of being killed like Fajuyi because naturally they will not agree to handover their guest and boss to the mutineers

I guess if you were the governor, you would have immediately cooperated and handed over your boss and guest

stuffs2002:
You people are just laughable.

All these IPOB elements trying to change history and failing woefully.

Aguyi-Ironsi with the assistance of Igbo officers and an Igbo lecturer from the university created decree 34 that effectively abolished regional governments

The question is simple. If Ironsi abolished the 4 Regions Nigeria had, what Regions were Katsina, Fajuyi, Ejoor and Ojukwu governing the day Ironsi died?

Ironsi was killed alongside the Military Governor of the Western Region, Fajuyi. How was Fajuyi still Military Governor of the Western Region if Ironsi had already abolished the Regions?

Kewekubosineh:
You think everybody on nairaland is your age mate?

Note that I witnessed the civil war. No stories. Unlike you Who are new generation breed.

So, stop challenging me. We're not mates. I witnessed the civil war and my narration is factual.

I will come to educate you on Decree 34 soon.

I can see I am wasting my time here. I repeat I am older thsn your parents. Go and brush up on your smattering of Nigeria history by reading goid history books. It is obvious you lack the knowledge to debate the topic in question.

Axis313:
Fajuyi,a Yoruba man who laid down his life defending his guest who happened to be an Igbo Head of State.
If Yorubas were cowards and betrayers,he would have turned his guest over to the coupists.

And it was in your land, on your soil that our brother was killed...

Goosethetruth:
Kid,
I was born then.
In fact I am quite sure I am older than your father.
You are just over zealous and mixing up different events. Go and buy good history books and brush up your little knowledge before trying to engage me about Nigeria history.

Do you say I am a kid - a septuagenarian?

Kid, i give up!

Go and banter with your mates.

I won't waste my Time educating you on 1966 putsch.

Bye

thesolutions:
Oh shortgun!
I heard he was refining and selling our petrol and crude oil when he took over port Harcourt. I guess your family received benefits from the proceeds of that that and other businesses.
Did he also queue to collect 20 naira to start life afresh after the war or he used his Biafran currency to charter flights to ivory coast?
Who made Biafra sovereign entity. Was there any UN resolution or AU resolution that recognized it as a sovereign entity and also recognize the currency Ojukwu printed? Can you exchange the currency at the border with any African currency at the border? So your claim of sovereign entity is false.
Biafra was never derived from bight of Biafra. Bight of Biafra covers several countries and it will be rascality for Ojukwu to claim that name for his imaginary nation.
Biafra, just as Nnamdi kanu has told you clouns came from the name of his village Afara in Umuahia where Ojukwu bunker is located. Biafra came from distortion of the Igbo phrase Bia Afara meaning come to Afara where he hid to build his fortress. If you don't believe this, then you should be cursing Nnamdi kanu for distorting the origin of the name.
But what More can I say. You believe he is right in his actions. He is your hero or maybe you wish he is because of your pain that your politicians can not solve. I might think you are transferring aggression on the wrong people.

You can't breath without the Igbos...
You can't have election without us...
You would have perished in wilderness without us...
Yet

P

gidgiddy:
The question is simple. If Ironsi abolished the 4 Regions Nigeria had, what Regions were Katsina, Fajuyi, Ejoor and Ojukwu governing the day Ironsi died?

Ironsi was running a unitary government.

Azikiwe connived with soldiers from his ethnic group when he became completely irrelevant in the government of Tafawa Balewa.

thesolutions:
Nigeria is not a people but a country. it is a name given to our region by our colonial master. They could name us anything because we were conquered without a fight.
We were slaves in a colony.

Biafra is not a country. We were not slaves under Ojukwu to warrant him giving us a name without consultation. The Igbos were free at independence and we jointly accepted the name Nigeria at independence.
We were free as Nigerians.
Oppression that arose was not external aggression but internal squabble caused by our politicians and the height of it was the coup that brought in our own as the ruler of the nation. That is the truth we are not telling ourselves.
Every claim of marginalization is we being served the dish that our politicians served others during this short period.

We have never been slaves in Nigeria. We dominate the trade, sports, and crafts industry. Our population living outside our region is more than our population within our region.

This slavery you are fighting to free yourself in is the actually the slavery of our politicians and leaders which they dragged us into fighting for them. Now the politicians and leaders are free and has ignored us that was dragged into this fight of theirs while we live in self guilt and slave mentality as they enjoy their political loots alone without questions and opposition.
This is why political alignment will continue because our politicians has found their freedom and you will have to call yourself a fool to be free, else, you continue to fight and slave like Ojukwu boy in ADC without gain.
Open your eyes.

This ofenmanu we've known theatrics

gidgiddy:
The question is simple. If Ironsi abolished the 4 Regions Nigeria had, what Regions were Katsina, Fajuyi, Ejoor and Ojukwu governing the day Ironsi died?

Ironsi was killed alongside the Military Governor of the Western Region, Fajuyi. How was Fajuyi still Military Governor of the Western Region if Ironsi had already abolished the Regions?

Every military government is a unitary government and as an extra, decree 34 unified the civil service. The unification of the civil service was what the majority of onlookers saw as an overreach

gidgiddy:
Im not going to a speech I dont know if Ironsi made. But even if he indeed made it, what matters is what he did, not what he said.

The question is simple. If Ironsi abolished the 4 Regions Nigeria had, what Regions were Katsina, Fajuyi, Ejoor and Ojukwu governing the day Ironsi died?

Maybe you should sit down and drink water first.
He made his speech on the 24th of May, 1966 and there were spontaneous rejection of these across the country especially the Northern part. He then embarked on a National tour to meet Regional stakeholders to convince them of the new policy,. It was in the process that he visited South West and was assassinated alongside his host on 29 July 1966, barely 2 months.

So what's your point. As a matter of fact he was actively in pursuit of its implementation when he was killed.

Look for another lie. We will keep bursting you because you are a rivisionist

Kewekubosineh:
Do you say I am a kid - a septuagenarian?

Kid, i give up!

Go and banter with your mates.

I won't waste my Time educating you on 1966 putsch.

Bye

I repeat,I am older than your father and your mother.
Go and brush up your knowledge of Nigeria history by reading goid books. From your comments it is obvious that your knowledge is quite kindergarten and you have no idea of what you are trying to discuss.

amaridigital:
The lie that Ojukwu dad was the richest man in Nigeria has been debunked several times.
Stop the lies please

Lol debunked by your ancestors Adeyanju Adewale Aregbesola

I remember all these history and pictures. Dad taught government in secondary school, I have seen this same exact pictures in one of his textbooks. It don tey

buttlover:
He wasn't biased. He included all tribes to govern their respective regions. Tinubu's government is all about Yoruba

Seems your education in the east is so bad ,you rewrite events and history .No matter the books and references told to you ,you will stick to this victim hood.

SMerchant:
Lol debunked by your ancestors Adeyanju Adewale Aregbesola

He was not the richest ,it's a big lie