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1967- Four Regions

2026 - Thirty six States

gidgiddy:
1967- Four Regions

2026 - Thirty six States

How will you explain what happened to the young ones?

People are still clamouring for more states. I want our Ijesa state. It was an independent state for various spells of time before colonisation. People want the independence they had before colonisation and there is nothing wrong with that. There is nothing wrong if a state of twenty million is existing side by side one with just 200k people. There is no way Nigeria would not have been divided into states because the owners of the lands want it like that.

Egba was the last to join Nigeria in 1914 but now they don't even have a state.

Show us the map of other countries in the 60's and let's see if they are still the same

Why are you so obsessed with the past you can't change a thing about self?

The same 4 regions formula, The English speaking Cameroon was forced to leave Nigeria due to how one of the region treated them. The marginalization of the minority tribes was just at its peak.

Unfortunately abi fortunately, it's the same region crying marginalization today

What's there to explain? Why do you even need to explain this? A country was broken down from regions to states, what's the big deal?

36 states has been existing in Nigeria for over 30 years now, and more may join soon, so it is not a new thing

gidgiddy:
1967- Four Regions

2026 - Thirty six States

The Northern, Western and Eastern Regions were created by the White men. There's no big deal if the Nigerian Government choose to balkanise the regions.

The minorities in the West, East and Northern regions were Clamouring for more states to be created, and they got their Wish.

Why should I explain the map of a useless country to my kids? By the time they have grown to understand what a map is, Nigeria will no more exist.

gidgiddy:
1967- Four Regions

2026 - Thirty six States

Because the government wants it that way 🤷🏿

helinues:
Show us the map of other countries in the 60's and let's see if they are still the same

Why are you so obsessed with the past you can't change a thing about self?

The same 4 regions formula, The English speaking Cameroon was forced to leave Nigeria due to how one of the region treated them. The marginalization of the minority tribes was just at its peak.

Unfortunately abi fortunately, it's the same region crying marginalization today

others were splitted into countries and not states

davillian:
others were splitted into countries and not states

Which of the old regions do you think can still maintain their minority or the minority willing to join them?

Can you give historical account of how Egba was last people that were colonalised and joined Nigeria protectorate

Am a historian I wish to know

lawani:
People are still clamouring for more states. I want our Ijesa state. It was an independent state for various spells of time before colonisation. People want the independence they had before colonisation and there is nothing wrong with that. There is nothing wrong if a state of twenty million is existing side by side one with just 200k people. There is no way Nigeria would not have been divided into states because the owners of the lands want it like that.

Egba was the last to join Nigeria in 1914 but now they don't even have a state.

lawani:
People are still clamouring for more states. I want our Ijesa state. It was an independent state for various spells of time before colonisation. People want the independence they had before colonisation and there is nothing wrong with that. There is nothing wrong if a state of twenty million is existing side by side one with just 200k people. There is no way Nigeria would not have been divided into states because the owners of the lands want it like that.

Egba was the last to join Nigeria in 1914 but now they don't even have a state.

Your last paragraph, where did you get that from?

Nigeria is an artificial state created for British interests and administrative convenience. From 1960 till date, Nigeria has not experienced good governance or progress. Nigeria is not one, everyone knows this, even the sitting President. One Nigeria only exists on paper and it's all about oil revenue. Nigeria is not a land that stands for justice , freedom or equity. All the regions are not willing to work together. We don't have leaders, what we have are vultures and opportunists , everyone is just working and waiting for their turn to feast on the national cake.

Have you forgotten the map of Nigeria with Cameroon

galantjoe:
Can you give historical account of how Egba was last people that were colonalised and joined Nigeria protectorate

Am a historian I wish to know

The Egba remained independent with their own civil service and police until the amalgamation of Nigeria after which they joined Nigeria. They joined because they can't be the only Yoruba state without British protection. They joined in 1914.

helinues:
Your last paragraph, where did you get that from?

Egba was not a British protectorate until September 1914.

They were not among those fighting at Igbajo

https://guardian.ng/opinion/egba-as-nigerias-premier-nation/

lawani:
Egba was not a British protectorate until September 1914.

They were not among those fighting at Igbajo

https://guardian.ng/opinion/egba-as-nigerias-premier-nation/

You see Abeokuta in general, there are 5 kingdoms with 5 kings ruling over their territory.

Alake
Osile
Okeona
Gbagura
Olowu

They are warriors that settled in Abeokuta town as they fled because of war. No superiority amongst them.

They have their roots in some outskirts of Abeokuta, some parts of Old Oyo.

The people living in the town before the arrival of those 5 kingdoms , Abeokuta wasn't known or on record. The story before is not available per say. I haven't seen any

When those visitors came, they saw some people , when they asked them where were they, they said under the rock( Olumo rock, Abeokuta

Probably those 5 kingdoms came after the 1914, don't know much about that regarding date

Even with the proximity of Ogun and Oyo, they hardly shared same ideology regarding politics and religion because of those wars. The Oyo empire took advantage of so many small communities with unnecessary wars

helinues:
You see Abeokuta in general, there are 5 kingdoms with 5 kings ruling over their territory.

Alake
Osile
Okeona
Gbagura
Olowu

They are warriors that settled in Abeokuta town as they fled because of war. No superiority amongst them.

They have their roots in some outskirts of Abeokuta, some parts of Old Oyo.

The people living in the town before the arrival of those 5 kingdoms , Abeokuta wasn't known or on record. The story before is not available per say. I haven't seen any

Probably those 5 kingdoms came after the 1914, don't know much about that regarding date

Even with the proximity of Ogun and Oyo, they hardly shared same ideology regarding politics and religion because of those wars. The Oyo empire took advantage of so many small communities with unnecessary wars

Egba was a province of Oyo. It would be a mixture of Oyo and the aborigines of the land. Egba became independent around the same time Dahomey and Ilorin became independent. They then had to be protecting their territory by themselves which is mainly from Dahomey and probably Ibadan. They formed a well organized republic and later went into an alliance with Britain in 1893 for trade and cooperation. They had confrontations with Britain after which their friendship treaty was converted into a protection treaty in 1914 and they started paying tax to Britain

lawani:
Egba was a province of Oyo. It would be a mixture of Oyo and the aborigines of the land. Egba became independent around the same time Dahomey and Ilorin became independent. They then had to be protecting their territory by themselves which is mainly from Dahomey and probably Ibadan. They formed a well organized republic and later went into an alliance with Britain in 1893 for trade and cooperation. They had confrontations with Britain after which their friendship treaty was converted into a protection treaty in 1914 and they started paying tax to Britain

Like I said, those 5 kingdoms including the Egbas are warriors. The people they met there might have been minorities who fled early. When they see them coming, probably they thought they are about to be attacked hence hiding under the rock.

The town existed in small communities before the arrivals of those 5 kingdoms.

I actually like the relationship between all of them whether in culture, language, food, politics or whatever, you can't really separate egba and Owu or Gbagura

helinues:
Like I said, those 5 kingdoms including the Egbas are warriors. The people they met there might have been minorities who fled early. When they see them coming, probably they thought they are about to be attacked hence hiding under the rock.

The town existed in small communities before the arrivals of those 5 kingdoms.

I actually like the relationship between all of them whether in culture, language, food, politics or whatever, you can't really separate egba and Owu or Gbagura

Yes I agree people existed there before the refugees came because the dialect is quite removed from Oyo but the Egba in the main say they are from Oyo. The Owu there are from Owu and etc

Mumu question

lawani:
Yes I agree people existed there before the refugees came because the dialect is quite removed from Oyo but the Egba in the main say they are from Oyo. The Owu there are from Owu and etc

They are still relating with their town and villages outside Abeokuta town . Infact, I can say almost every Abeokuta indigenes have villages. One way or the other.

But the relationship with Oyo people, No.

Ekiti people, their royal kings, if you talk anything about Olubadan or Alaafin, they always talk down on them. Misuse of power

helinues:
They are still relating with their town and villages outside Abeokuta town . Infact, I can say almost every Abeokuta indigenes have villages. One way or the other.

But the relationship with Oyo people, No.

Ekiti people, their royal kings, if you talk anything about Olubadan or Alaafin, they always talk down on them. Misuse of power

Ok. The stunted nationalism of different Yoruba states was just short sightedness because what did Ibadan do wrong for wanting to unite the Yoruba? What misuse of power? They left all the traditional structures intact and never removed them anywhere and only posted ajeles for the purpose of tax collection and cooperation. I understand however that they were used to their sovereignty being Ijesa myself.

lawani:
Ok. The stunted nationalism of different Yoruba states was just short sightedness because what did Ibadan do wrong for wanting to unite the Yoruba? What misuse of power? They left all the traditional structures intact and never removed them anywhere and only posted ajeles for the purpose of tax collection and cooperation

Oyo empire misruled. That's on record. Considering the distance between Oyo and Ilorin, why did Oyo empire take war there and eventually lose?

This current Alaafin, have you seen crown on him? There is no crown, the ancestral crown have been stolen during the war in Oyo in retaliation by the Fulanis. They looted reasonable ancestry things.

Till Today , which of the other 5 SW states did Oyo state have cordial relationship with?

Let me add in particular. I am only relating history, no enmity between the people of South West or the Yoruba's, but when it comes to history, we should be able to tell ourselves the blunt truth about the past in other to do better in future

gidgiddy:
1967- Four Regions

2026 - Thirty six States

I will only explain to them that eastern state was very peaceful region before those eastern terrorists disturbing the peace of that region now were born. The one sokoto prison and the one Finland prison were not born then; there was nothing like killing people as saboteurs in those good days.

You can trek from Enugu to Nzuka or obollo afor without fear of encountering ipob-fullani in the forest cannibalising on their victims. In that good days of eastern Nigeria, heads of Igbos were not sacrifice or paraded ipob/ESN in the market square like it is today because there was nothing like ipob/ESN then. Even @giddiggidy was not born then talkless of being recruited by ipob/ESN into their admin department.

I am not sure he goes out to the field because I was even thinking maybe he was part of those bursted in their camps last week when I didn't see him online. But surprisingly, after the guy mourned their ipob colleagues he is still here online supporting that evil ipob. I don't wish him bad thing at all, but I borrow repentant heart from one genius Boko Haram for him to at least repent and do away with ipob/ESN that is using that blac-red uniform/flag resemble that of Satan.

sreamsense:
I will only explain to them that eastern state was very peaceful region before those eastern terrorists disturbing the peace of that region now were born. The one sokoto prison and the one Finland prison were not born then; there was nothing like killing people as saboteurs in those good days.

You can trek from Enugu to Nzuka or obollo afor without fear of encountering ipob-fullani in the forest cannibalising on their victims. In that good days of eastern Nigeria, heads of Igbos were not sacrifice or paraded ipob/ESN in the market square like it is today because there was nothing like ipob/ESN then. Even @giddiggidy was not born then talkless of being recruited by ipob/ESN into their admin department.

I am not sure he goes out to the field because I was even thinking maybe he was part of those bursted in their camps last week when I didn't see him online. But surprisingly, after the guy mourned their ipob colleagues he is still here online supporting that evil ipob. I don't wish him bad thing at all, but I borrow repentant heart from one genius Boko Haram for him to at least repent and do away with ipob/ESN that is using that blac-red uniform/flag resemble that of Satan.

You APC people are funny. Over a thousand people have been killed this year in places like Kwara, Benue, Plateau, Zamfara, Katsina and Adamawa, by gunmen. But the only time you people remember insecurity is if you can mention IPOB

Millions of people are in IDP camps due to insecurity, half a million in Benue state alone. But you peoples problem is South-East where there are no IDP camps

Bandits are now controlling areas in Katsina, Borno, Yobe, Kebbi and Niger State, collecting tax. But you people are looking at South-East

Now I see how you APC people let Nigeria go to the Dogs, busy looking at South-East while the rest of Nigeria burns

Kwantinu

gidgiddy:
1967- Four Regions

2026 - Thirty six States

Eastern Nigeria is dead and buried forever.

If you think you can recreate the British Colonial estate and lord over it as your useless grand parents did under the guise of Biafra, you are deluded.