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helinues:
But 80% of the people on that thread are Igbo's. Infact, there are some monikers on that thread who condemned the poor leadership of Peter Obi as Anambra state but today those monikers want to be telling us Obi is the messiah. As how now

https://www.nairaland.com/870945/what-exactly-peter-obi-doing

What thread?


So the opinion of let's say 100 members on Nairaland that commented on a thread is enough for you to conclude that Peter Obi failed as Governor?

Bro, Peter Obi remains one of the best Governors Southeast has ever produced, if you like take it, if you like don't take it.


In the history of Nigeria, Southeast have had few credible Governors, they are:



1.) Dede Onunaka Mbakwe - Imo state

2.) Dr Ogbonnaya Onu - Ebonyi state

3.) Mr Peter Obi - Anambra state

4.) Dr Alex Otti - Abia state


Others that tried to an extent are:


1.) Engr Dave Umahi - Ebonyi state

2.) Hon. Emeka Ihedioha (shortlived) - Imo state

3.) Dr Sullivan Chime - Enugu state

4.) Chris Ngige



Now for your information, Peter Obi ended brutal godfatherism in Anambra state. Winning that war alone for Anambra people was a great achievement.



Imagine a Governor that fights Tinubu in Lagos and wins and liberate Lagos state from Tinubu's grip, that Governor doesn't even need to do any other thing to be celebrated because it's not easy.

Obi had a very rough tenure and with limited resources as a Governor of a young state with limited resources, he still did the things he did and still saved billions for Anambra state.


Obi is the only ex Nigerian state Governor that rejected pension and gratuity as ex Governor, even Tinubu as rich as he is still collects his before became President. That alone is a rare quality of a contented man that you can never found in Nigerian political leaders.


Pls when you see good, say it and applaud it so people will also applaud you when you do good in future. Everything no be fight or argument for arguing sake.


Mind you, Obi definitely has his own flaws just like every human and every politician but his good qualities outweighs his bad qualities as a leader as far as I know and that's why I support him even if he doesn't win due to Nigerian warped and ethnocentric politics and bias.

franchasofficia:
What thread?


So the opinion of let's say 100 members on Nairaland that commented on a thread is enough for you to conclude that Peter Obi failed as Governor?

Bro, Peter Obi remains one of the best Governors Southeast has ever produced, if you like take it, if you like don't take it.


In the history of Nigeria, Southeast have had few credible Governors, they are:



1.) Dede Onunaka Mbakwe - Imo state

2.) Dr Ogbonnaya Onu - Ebonyi state

3.) Mr Peter Obi - Anambra state

4.) Dr Alex Otti - Abia state


Others that tried to an extent are:


1.) Engr Dave Umahi - Ebonyi state

2.) Hon. Emeka Ihedioha (shortlived) - Imo state

3.) Dr Sullivan Chime - Enugu state

4.) Chris Ngige



Now for your information, Peter Obi ended brutal godfatherism in Anambra state. Winning that war alone for Anambra people was a great achievement.



Imagine a Governor that fights Tinubu in Lagos and wins and liberate Lagos state from Tinubu's grip, that Governor doesn't even need to do any other thing to be celebrated because it's not easy.

Obi had a very rough tenure and with limited resources as a Governor of a young state with limited resources, he still did the things he did and still saved billions for Anambra state.


Obi is the only ex Nigerian state Governor that rejected pension and gratuity as ex Governor, even Tinubu as rich as he is still collects his before became President. That alone is a rare quality of a contented man that you can never found in Nigerian political leaders.


Pls when you see good, say it and applaud it so people will also applaud you when you do good in future. Everything no be fight or argument for arguing sake.


Mind you, Obi definitely has his own flaws just like every human and every politician but his good qualities outweighs his bad qualities as a leader as far as I know and that's why I support him even if he doesn't win due to Nigerian warped and ethnocentric politics and bias.

You see , there are some informations I have about Peter Obi that are not popular, I have made some popular on this forum. They are in batches, just stay tuned.

How Peter got APGA ticket then, search through the whole forum, na my only analysis you will see and those info are just tips. Imagine the full details

My own be say anyone who believe Peter Obi is better than president Tinubu to lead Nigeria, engaging with a wood won't make any difference

So Nigeria startwd in 1999.
Why did the SE vote Tofa against MKO Abiola. Please explain how tribalism is not your reason.

givedemwotowoto:
This post is a direct rejoinder to Regional Distribution Of Votes In The 2023 Presidential Election which (from the comments section) attempts to portray the South East as voting along tribal lines. It's election season again and the ethnic jingoists have once again resorted to politics of tribal dog whistle.

SuperEagles:
So Nigeria startwd in 1999.
Why did the SE vote Tofa against MKO Abiola. Please explain how tribalism is not your reason.

Neither Tofa nor Abiola were Igbo men so I don’t get your point. The South East spread their votes among the 2 candidates in 1993 and Abiola won Anambra state. 1999 SE voted OBJ overwhelmingly. You have been told too many lies by people you trusted:

1993 Presidential Election — South East:

Abia
Tofa (NRC): 151,227 — 59%
Abiola (SDP): 105,273 — 41%

Anambra
Abiola (SDP): 212,024 — 57%
Tofa (NRC): 159,258 — 43%

Enugu
Tofa (NRC): 284,050 — 52%
Abiola (SDP): 263,101 — 48%

Imo
Tofa (NRC): 195,836 — 55%
Abiola (SDP): 159,350 — 45%

givedemwotowoto:
This post is a direct rejoinder to Regional Distribution Of Votes In The 2023 Presidential Election which (from the comments section) attempts to portray the South East as voting along tribal lines. It's election season again and the ethnic jingoists have once again resorted to politics of tribal dog whistle.

yarimo and his colleagues will not see this lol

SuperEagles:
So Nigeria startwd in 1999.
Why did the SE vote Tofa against MKO Abiola. Please explain how tribalism is not your reason.

Is Tofa an Igbo man?

Ignorance at it's peak!

Babablu bulabu.

givedemwotowoto:
This post is a direct rejoinder to Regional Distribution Of Votes In The 2023 Presidential Election which (from the comments section) attempts to portray the South East as voting along tribal lines. It's election season again and the ethnic jingoists have once again resorted to politics of tribal dog whistle.

OK It wasn't tribal, you just voted for the candidates based on how well they could speak Igbo.

You yourself know it was. Bikonu rest.

Ofunaofu:
It’s obvious you were born in 2023 and immediately handed a phone

Though you may sound silly, that will not stop me from educating you. For your information, the Igbos did not reject Olu Falae or Ojukwu because they chose competence over mediocrity. Rather, they chose the PDP and stuck with it for about 23 years. They only left the PDP in 2023 and moved to what some call “PDP-lite” (LP) because they genuinely felt it was their turn to produce the President, and the PDP seemingly wanted to deny them that opportunity.
What empirical evidence do you have to prove that Obasanjo was more competent than Falae or Ojukwu?

ChiefOloye:
Though you may sound silly, that will not stop me from educating you. For your information, the Igbos did not reject Olu Falae or Ojukwu because they chose competence over mediocrity. Rather, they chose the PDP and stuck with it for about 23 years. They only left the PDP in 2023 and moved to what some call “PDP-lite” (LP) because they genuinely felt it was their turn to produce the President, and the PDP seemingly wanted to deny them that opportunity.
What empirical evidence do you have to prove that Obasanjo was more competent than Falae or Ojukwu?

It’s funny you’re trying to educate me while completely dodging the context of the conversation.

I made that comment because you called the OP a bloody liar when he posted the South-East presidential voting pattern from 1999 till date, data that clearly shows the region hasn’t historically voted strictly along tribal or ethnic lines.

Instead of addressing the actual evidence, you jumped straight into rewriting history and building a different argument entirely.
Telling us how the south east stuck with PDP blablabla, then moved to what you described as PDP lite or whatever

No one said the Igbos rejected Falae or Ojukwu because of competence. The point was simple: your claim that the South-East always votes based on ethnicity doesn’t stand when you look at the electoral record. That’s exactly what the OP showed and instead of disproving it, you dismissed it with insults.

Also, the irony of someone saying “that will not stop me from educating you” while asking me for empirical evidence about Obasanjo vs Falae vs Ojukwu, a claim I never even made, is honestly impressive.

Next time, try responding to the actual point on the table instead of inventing a new debate to feel like you’ve won something.

It is amazing that you are able to bring this up with shame. Imagine igbos voting more for Tofa against a philanthropist like MKO.

Do you have statistics show how the MKO you refuse to vote beat Tofa in his state of Kano ?!

What can make Northerners vote MKO but you vote a Northerner his own people know is not capable if it is not hate bigotry n jealousy of the Yorubas.

I asked a simple question you went up about foolishly evading it.

Did Yorubas not vote for Ebele Jonathan ?

Did Yorubas also not vote for Yardua ?

Did Yorubas not vote for Buhari ?

You need help think you can gaslight anyone. Yorubas will vote whoever they deem fit n not what you dictate and that will never ever be who you Igbos desire.

Even Atiku a Northerer won in Osun.
Your bigoted Obi even won in Lagos a predominant Yoruba stats but that is being still tribal like all these ones are Yorubas.

givedemwotowoto:
Neither Tofa nor Abiola were Igbo men so I don’t get your point. The South East spread their votes among the 2 candidates in 1993 and Abiola won Anambra state. 1999 SE voted OBJ overwhelmingly. You have been told too many lies by people you trusted:

1993 Presidential Election — South East:

Abia
Tofa (NRC): 151,227 — 59%
Abiola (SDP): 105,273 — 41%

Anambra
Abiola (SDP): 212,024 — 57%
Tofa (NRC): 159,258 — 43%

Enugu
Tofa (NRC): 284,050 — 52%
Abiola (SDP): 263,101 — 48%

Imo
Tofa (NRC): 195,836 — 55%
Abiola (SDP): 159,350 — 45%

SuperEagles:
It is amazing that you are able to bring this up with shame. Imagine igbos voting more for Tofa against a philanthropist like MKO.

Do you have statistics show how the MKO you refuse to vote beat Tofa in his state of Kano ?!

What can make Northerners vote MKO but you vote a Northerner his own people know is not capable if it is not hate bigotry n jealousy of the Yorubas.

So essentially you're no longer falsely accusing Igbos of voting along tribal lines, you shamelessly abandoned the false accusation into something else completely?

SuperEagles:
So Nigeria startwd in 1999.
Why did the SE vote Tofa against MKO Abiola. Please explain how tribalism is not your reason.

The vote was 50 -50 in the East, they won one state each. Besides, no one could proof how MKO would have turned out if he ruled.

The Igbos are the least tribalistic group in Nigeria and the result shows it. Do you know what it means to choose OBJ over Ojukwu?

ChiefOloye:
I'm old as your dad, if he not in his sixties.

But you talk like a teenager who just left secondary school in 2023, i will advice you to stop using false age on Nairaland because we all know you are a kid typing with her mother phone

Igbo have only been voting for PDP, then LP in the last election. Shikena!

yommen:
Igbo have only been voting for PDP, then LP in the last election. Shikena!

So you argument conveniently just shifted from "they voted along tribal lines" to "they have only been voting PDP". Just like Daniel Bwala "I never said that", then we see a video of him saying exactly that.

ChiefOloye:
Though you may sound silly, that will not stop me from educating you. For your information, the Igbos did not reject Olu Falae or Ojukwu because they chose competence over mediocrity. Rather, they chose the PDP and stuck with it for about 23 years. They only left the PDP in 2023 and moved to what some call “PDP-lite” (LP) because they genuinely felt it was their turn to produce the President, and the PDP seemingly wanted to deny them that opportunity.
What empirical evidence do you have to prove that Obasanjo was more competent than Falae or Ojukwu?

We know you won't be able to sleep tonight with the information on this thread, please stop this incoherent epistles with no truth in it out of here.

Igbo, Stop explaining yourselves to hateful people

plessis:
Igbo, Stop explaining yourselves to hateful people

Propaganda works, but facts destroy it. The facts need to be out there for research else propaganda will be the only thing people see. The hateful people used propaganda for years to create tensions between brothers in the eastern region. They will continue in their gimmicks if you do nothing.

ChiefOloye:
Though you may sound silly, that will not stop me from educating you. For your information, the Igbos did not reject Olu Falae or Ojukwu because they chose competence over mediocrity. Rather, they chose the PDP and stuck with it for about 23 years. They only left the PDP in 2023 and moved to what some call “PDP-lite” (LP) because they genuinely felt it was their turn to produce the President, and the PDP seemingly wanted to deny them that opportunity.
What empirical evidence do you have to prove that Obasanjo was more competent than Falae or Ojukwu?

And this, my friends, is the truth.

The sad thing is PDP didn't care about Ndigbo enough to, just once, give them their Presidential candidacy despite Ndigbo's fervent support.

My hope is APGA will jump in bed with APC and Prof Soludo will get the Presidential ticket once a Northerner has done their 8 years.

ChiefOloye:
Though you may sound silly, that will not stop me from educating you. For your information, the Igbos did not reject Olu Falae or Ojukwu because they chose competence over mediocrity. Rather, they chose the PDP and stuck with it for about 23 years. They only left the PDP in 2023 and moved to what some call “PDP-lite” (LP) because they genuinely felt it was their turn to produce the President, and the PDP seemingly wanted to deny them that opportunity.
What empirical evidence do you have to prove that Obasanjo was more competent than Falae or Ojukwu?

Mr man you better disappear from this thread. Your Taqyiyah does not work here

franchasofficia:
In Igbo land, Odimegwu Ojukwu remains one of the most respected elites dead or alive, you might not like him, to you and your tribesmen, he might be a bad man who led his people to unplanned war according to your own logic and belief which you guys are entitled to.


Same way, to Igbos, Peter Obi performed excellently well and better than all the Governors in Southeast of his time and even till date that we now have Alex Otti that started very well and we hope he continues and end excellently as he started.


So if Igbos adjudge Peter Obi is an excellent leader based on their perception of his performance as Anambra Governor and other leadership positions he held, they are entitled to it and the only way you can disprove them is by waiting until Peter Obi becomes President and fails to deliver like Buhari and Tinubu whom their people believed held the magic wand and they became that President they so desired and they performed abysmally poor before the whole Nigerians and the world at large.


You might have a different yardstick for measuring good leaders in your region, Igbos may also have a different yardstick for measuring good leaders in their own region, so when they say this their leader failed or performed, you can only wait until such leader gets to federal position then you access him based on the national yardstick since he is now governing not just his region but the entire nation.


Lastly, few people's opinion online does not represent the will or opinion of an entire state or region or even nation.


My opinion alone or few of us online that criticize Tinubu can never be enough to conclude that Tinubu failed as President. You will need to take a look at the KPIs and majority opinion and perception of the people about the leader being assessed.


Always take note of this.

Peter Obi was never an excellent leader based on their perception of his performance as Anambra Governor and other leadership positions.This is evident on you people real time appraisal of his government judging from you people posts between 2006-2014!

All the praise being heap over peter OBI now is to promote his presidential ambition and its not alsonstrange to people who have been following politics for a while.