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MaxInDHouse:
Does God sometimes test people?

Why did God test Abraham?

Did the devil suggest Abraham's testing to God like the devil did to Job and Peter?

judewrites:
Why did God test Abraham?
Did the devil suggest Abraham's testing to God like the devil did to Job and Peter?

Well we've come a long way so i will tell you.

According to the Bible the true God is HOLY which means no evil thought could be found in Him God is always positive so whenever we read of trials in the Bible the thought doesn't come from the HOLY One but Satan!

When under trial, let no one say: “I am being tried by God.” For with evil things God cannot be tried, nor does he himself try anyone. James 1:13

So who came up with the idea that Abraham should sacrifice his only son Isaac? God or Satan?

Before you answer think of what Jesus told Peter:

“Simon, Simon, look! Satan has demanded to have all of you to sift you as wheat" Luke 22:31

So just as we read in the Bible book of Job that Satan raised the idea the same should be applied to all trials according to Revelation 12:10

“Now have come to pass the salvation and the power and the Kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ, because the accuser of our brothers has been hurled down, who accuses them day and night before our God!"

Satan has always been the one accusing God's servants demanding a trial to break their integrity our God is HOLY no negativity comes from Him!

DeclanR:
Bro, I thank you for your words of encouragement.
Truth is, right now, I'm empty. Nothing in my house. How do I survive?

Don’t ever worry for what you will eat cos God knows your needs and he will always provide.

Everyday is a big blessing from God.

MaxInDHouse:
Well we've come a long way so i will tell you.

According to the Bible the true God is HOLY which means no evil thought could be found in Him God is always positive so whenever we read of trials in the Bible the thought doesn't come from the HOLY One but Satan!

When under trial, let no one say: “I am being tried by God.” For with evil things God cannot be tried, nor does he himself try anyone. James 1:13

So who came up with the idea that Abraham should sacrifice his only son Isaac? God or Satan?

Before you answer think of what Jesus told Peter:

“Simon, Simon, look! Satan has demanded to have all of you to sift you as wheat" Luke 22:31

So just as we read in the Bible book of Job that Satan raised the idea the same should be applied to all trials according to Revelation 12:10

“Now have come to pass the salvation and the power and the Kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ, because the accuser of our brothers has been hurled down, who accuses them day and night before our God!"

Satan has always been the one accusing God's servants demanding a trial to break their integrity our God is HOLY no negativity comes from Him!

So according to you, it was satan that was behind Abraham test of sacrificing Isaac?

It's debatable but only that it was never implied in the scripture.

However, when David transgressed by numbering Israel, it was attributed to both God and satan.

And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.
— 2 Samuel 24:1

And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.
— 1 Chronicles 21:1

This is one of deep mysteries of the Bible.

judewrites:
So according to you, it was satan that was behind Abraham test of sacrificing Isaac?
It's debatable but only that it was never implied in the scripture.

Here is where WISDOM is required!

I showed you what the Bible called the true God: HOLY!

Do you agree with the definition of that word or not?

Well the scriptures is their to help you all you need is someone who can lead you to verses that will answer your questions.

judewrites:
However, when David transgressed by numbering Israel, it was attributed to both God and satan.

And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.
— 2 Samuel 24:1

And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.
— 1 Chronicles 21:1
This is one of deep mysteries of the Bible.

There is no MYSTERY in God's word the correct rendering of the word is "SACRED SECRET"
If God's word is a MYSTERY then how do you expect to convince others into believing what you yourself can't explain?
So it's sacred secrets revealed only to Born Again Christians who are teaching us!
David was tempted by Satan not God the understanding of that scripture is that God permitted Satan to do it that's why the other writer said it's from God!

MaxInDHouse:
Here is where WISDOM is required!

I showed you what the Bible called the true God: HOLY!

Do you agree with the definition of that word or not?

Well the scriptures is their to help you all you need is someone who can lead you to verses that will answer your questions.



There is no MYSTERY in God's word the correct rendering of the word of "SACRED SECRET"
If God's word is a MYSTERY then how do you expect to convince others into believing what you yourself can't explain?
So it's sacred secrets revealed only to Born Again Christians who are teaching us!
David was tempted by Satan not God the understanding of that scripture is that God permitted Satan to do it that's why the other writer said it's from God!

Clearly it was God who permitted David to be tempted by the devil, but a lot of believers can read it without understanding due to the contrast in verses.

That's why God gifted the church with teachers like my humble self

judewrites:
Clearly it was God who permitted David to be tempted by the devil.

So God has never ever tempted anyone with evil! James 1:13

Thanks for your time!

To strengthen us and prepare us for when he will answer our prayers in his timing.

ManknowThyself:
Don’t ever worry for what you will eat cos God knows your needs and he will always provide.

Everyday is a big blessing from God.

I mailed you

Dtruthspeaker:
Go and read again. God cancelled your right to dominate since your elders messed it up

Oga, rest! The day God starts running this world, heaven rules will apply here. Earth is firmly in the hands of men, that's why God ignores all our evil deeds

SmartPolician:
Oga, rest! The day God starts running this world, heaven rules will apply here. Earth is firmly in the hands of men, that's why God ignores all our evil deeds

You say God ignores your evu deeds yet everything is happening as He Said. Anyway, i leave you alone

Thanks

The same reason we do examinations in school
Also, challenges exist because of the evil in the world. Jesus' second coming will.change that

It has been promised.

TemmyT002:
The same reason we do examinations in school
Also, challenges exist because of the evil in the world. Jesus' second coming will.change that

It has been promised.

As long as we are on earth, there will be always trials. No one is exempt, no matter how Anointed or rich one may be.

It's only in heaven/new earth that there will be no more trials/troubles because the devil won't be permanently there.

ManknowThyself:
Don’t ever worry for what you will eat cos God knows your needs and he will always provide.

Everyday is a big blessing from God.

Mean people

SmartPolician:
God created and gave us this world; He said we should run and dominate it. Christ made it clear that His kingdom is in heaven. That's why God hardly interferes in the affairs of men, even when we commit evils. I just wanted to clarify that.

But d devil is d god of the world （2cor 4:4）- how do u dimension that ?

prinsam30:
That verse u quoted was not from God, it was from the apostle James, God can never give u a trial, God is not an author of confusion, that was just a motivational speech by brother James, U guys should stop attributing everything to God

U need to be careful how u cherrypick the Bible.. cos b4 u know it, u will say paul was just writing his own when he wrote Ephesians and that even Mt mk, Luke, john are just d imaginations of those men,
every scripture is inspired by God for correction, for doctrine, for instruction-2 Timothy 3:16. Remember revelation 22:19- removing out of God's word leads to reduction of d person's part in d book of life.

Lukuluku69:
The Quran teaches that trials are inevitable tests of faith, encompassing fear, hunger, and loss of life or property, designed to distinguish the truthful from the liars. Key verses emphasize that Allah rewards the patient, promises ease after hardship, and reminds believers that these tests are necessary for spiritual growth.

Testing with Good and Evil: "Every soul will taste death. And We test you with evil and with good as trial; and to Us you will be returned." (Surah Al-Anbya 21:35)

The Nature of Tribulations: "And We will surely test you with something of fear and hunger and a loss of wealth and lives and fruits, but give good tidings to the patient." (Surah Al-Baqarah 2:155)

Purpose of Testing: "Do people think once they say, “We believe,” that they will be left without being put to the test? We certainly tested those before them." (Surah Al-Ankabut 29:2-3)

Ease After Hardship: "For indeed, with hardship comes ease." (Surah Al-Inshirah 94:5)
Divine Support: "O you who have believed, seek help through patience and prayer. Indeed, Allah is with the patient." (Surah Al-Baqarah 2:153)

No Soul Overburdened: "Allah does not charge a soul except [with that within] its capacity." (Surah Al-Baqarah 2:286)

Assurance of Help: "Or do you think that you will enter Paradise while such [trial] has not yet come to you... Unquestionably, the help of Allah is near." (Surah Al-Baqarah 2:214)

These trials, while difficult, are considered mercies that help refine a believer's character and bring them closer to Allah.

Wow! I can see from the quran verses you quoted the divinity of God the father, the son and the Holyspirit ( 1 JOHN 5:7 and JOHN 10:30 ). Well done friend.

Please I offer to everyone yet to accept Jesus Christ as his or her saviour and Lord to do so today as salvation is of the Lord Jesus Christ.

Shalom!

being:
U need to be careful how u cherrypick the Bible.. cos b4 u know it, u will say paul was just writing his own when he wrote Ephesians and that even Mt mk, Luke, john are just d imaginations of those men,
every scripture is inspired by God for correction, for doctrine, for instruction-2 Timothy 3:16. Remember revelation 22:19- removing out of God's word leads to reduction of d person's part in d book of life.

Pls try to understand me, I'm not trying to remove anything from God's word , what I'm saying is that, these are events that took place during their time and they writes about what they experienced, God did not speak to them directly just like in old testament, all I'm saying is that U guys should stop quoting God's word out of context

Who can know the mind of God?

You are exactly removing from God's Word if u say we should not trust what James wrote. . Cos now u said God did not speak to dm directly.. with this ur statement u have rendered all d epistles not to be trustworthy... and if u remove epistles from a Christian's life, what is left? Hw does he even understand d gospels or even d old testament ?Again I say, be VERY CAREFUL with this ur thinking

prinsam30:
Pls try to understand me, I'm not trying to remove anything from God's word , what I'm saying is that, these are events that took place during their time and they writes about what they experienced, God did not speak to them directly just like in old testament, all I'm saying is that U guys should stop quoting God's word out of context