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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 1:25pm On Mar 08
basilico:
The US is not running out of money to fight any war. Not now not ever.
Israel if it runs out of munitions will simply get more bombs from Uncle Sam. A ground war is expensive ,the US and Israel are only testing their aerial armaments.

Iran factories are being decimated one by one. It's only a matter of time before they can assemble a military wheelbarrow.
Explain away.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 1:29pm On Mar 08
nateevs:
Explain away.
What's there to explain?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 1:39pm On Mar 08
nateevs:
A year? In terms of Iran's capability, that's a war of attrition. You guys don't pay attention to news from the other side. You are only paying attention to the bombings.

The US and Israel cannot sustain a war of attrition against Iran. It will become economically crippling for the US and Israel.

The US is already burning through $1bn a day executing this war on behalf of Israel. The economic cost to Israel alone is already estimated at $2.9bn in only 7 days. It is estimated to go upwards of $3bn a week, if current red restrictions continue. This is data from Israel's own Finance Ministry.

The US lacks an industrial base and supply chain to replenish munitions and advanced weapons systems quickly. You can thank decades of capitalism for that.

Unfortunately for the US, Iran does, and cheaply.


You guys have spent the last decade encouraging gaslighting, outright lying and "alternative facts" for political gain. The consequences are slow-rolling in a political hemisphere. The problem is that you lot are extending this tactic to war. In war, the cookies crumble very immediately.
I lice would have made a better argument
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 1:41pm On Mar 08
basilico:
What's there to explain?
Your nonsense. Where would the endless money come from?


Also where would the endless munitions come from?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 1:42pm On Mar 08
bemeruca:
I lice would have made a better argument
Indeed. You need to consult ChatGPT.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 2:29pm On Mar 08
nateevs:
Your nonsense. Where would the endless money come from?


Also where would the endless munitions come from?
The same place it came from in WW2.
America fought on two fronts , How many armies can afford that?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 2:51pm On Mar 08
basilico:
The same place it came from in WW2.
America fought on two fronts , How many armies can afford that?
You are wasting your time with that guy.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m):
A corrupt criminal seeking for pardon thinks he has the moral right to execute others.

See the hardened criminal Zionist war monger that many here are worshipping day and night.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 3:51pm On Mar 08
bemeruca:
Bayelsaowei does not understand the history of Iran and how the Ayatollahs took over. It is thinking it is the US that put the Ayatollahs in power when in reality, the Ayatollahs removed the shah the United States install through a coup. Islamist and communist were behind the Iranian revolution that removed the shah because of strong ties with the west.

So it is not the US that installed the Ayatollahs
The disruption of a democratic Iran, led to the uprising of the Ayatollahs. To resist the imposed despotic Shah and America’s constant interference in their governance, led to the Ayatollahs.

America and the UK, set iran on that path right up to this point.

It is simple cause and effect.

The actions the US and Isreal are taking today, will surely have consequences in the future..
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 3:58pm On Mar 08
basilico:
The US is not running out of money to fight any war. Not now not ever.
Israel if it runs out of munitions will simply get more bombs from Uncle Sam. A ground war is expensive ,the US and Israel are only testing their aerial armaments.

Iran factories are being decimated one by one. It's only a matter of time before they can assemble a military wheelbarrow.
who’s gonna pay for this war? How’s the budget overrun going to be covered?

Let me ask you and others the same annoying question you ask when it’s time to cater for needy citizens or the less privileged.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 4:01pm On Mar 08
bemeruca:
You are wasting your time with that guy.
He is not wasting his time.

I see you and others shout your throats out when monies are kept aside for social upkeep of needy citizens of the US.

Funds for Medicaid and health insurance have been gutted simply because many like you assume it is not the governments responsibility to cater for such ones. You ask who is gonna pay for it.

So I ask you. Who is going to pay for this avoidable and needless war? Who? From whose pockets?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 4:11pm On Mar 08
bayelsaowei:
The disruption of a democratic Iran, led to the uprising of the Ayatollahs. To resist the imposed despotic Shah and America’s constant interference in their governance, led to the Ayatollahs.

America and the UK, set iran on that path right up to this point.

It is simple cause and effect.

The actions the US and Isreal are taking today, will surely have consequences in the future..
Bro, there has always been disruption. not necessary because of the US, but there were many parties involved. This is Russia (Russia was not directly involved as a supporter of the Ayatollah, the Communist party was just another faction - The original Ayatollah, who I believe was born in Kuwait and the UK. The US only entered later. But the same Ideology you are seeing Boko Harambe push for Nigeria, which is no link to Western ways of things, is the same ideology the Ayatollah wants. After the revolution, the Islamic Republic purged leftists, including pro‑Soviet groups.

This is why I said you have suicidal empathy. You think you are being nice to people who have patterns of subjugating people when they have the upper hand, but all you are doing is being careless.

We saw the same struggle in Korea. The Battle between communism and capitalism. I believe it was the same struggle in Vietnam. If it is not Russia spreading communism, it is the Chinese. and the are going against the US. So the rise of the Ayatollah is a result of communism and Islamism, which ousted the Pro-western/America Shah.

In many Western countries today, like the United States, the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, the Netherlands, and Sweden, there seems to be a collaboration between communists and Islamists aimed at undermining existing systems. They often criticize capitalism, try to silence dissenting voices, and portray Christianity as harmful. They present their actions as morally justified, claiming the moral high ground, yet at times celebrate the killing of those who simply wish to engage in civil discussion. They target billionaires, demanding their wealth be redistributed without effort on their part.

the Russians were also in Afghanistan. The U.S. supported the Taliban in driving them out, but later found itself unable to control those same Islamists, leading to the attacks on the World Trade Center.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 4:14pm On Mar 08
bayelsaowei:
He is not wasting his time.

I see you and others shout your throats out when monies are kept aside for social upkeep of needy citizens of the US.

Funds for Medicaid and health insurance have been gutted simply because many like you assume it is not the governments responsibility to cater for such ones. You ask who is gonna pay for it.

So I ask you. Who is going to pay for this avoidable and needless war? Who? From whose pockets?
The US was in Afghanistan and Iraq for decades, but it is Iran that will drain them out? Even Russia, with a weak economy, is doing fine replenishing its weapons.

Today, with the advancement of drones, it costs even less to fight a war.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 4:31pm On Mar 08
Jesse Jackson Jr. took a shot at Obama for not knowing who his father was, but turned their eulogy into a political f- Donald Trump rally.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 4:35pm On Mar 08
This man, who tried to make Nigeria the LGBT capital of Africa
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 4:36pm On Mar 08
bemeruca:
The US was in Afghanistan and Iraq for decades, but it is Iran that will drain them out? Even Russia, with a weak economy, is doing fine replenishing its weapons.

Today, with the advancement of drones, it costs even less to fight a war.
It’s costing the US presently about a billion dollars per day to sustain this war. That number sounds cheap to you? With the present admin requesting for an additional half a trillion dollars on its defense budget?

But you still haven’t answered my question. Who will pay for it?

Whose pocket is it coming from.? And then relate your answer to welfare programs and health insurance that are being cut off by war mongers.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 4:37pm On Mar 08
Jesse Jackson jr. The request was ignored by Obama, Kamala, and Joe Biden. He said don't bring politics, they ignored him

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 4:39pm On Mar 08
bemeruca:
Bro, there has always been disruption. not necessary because of the US, but there were many parties involved. This is Russia (Russia was not directly involved as a supporter of the Ayatollah, the Communist party was just another faction - The original Ayatollah, who I believe was born in Kuwait and the UK. The US only entered later. But the same Ideology you are seeing Boko Harambe push for Nigeria, which is no link to Western ways of things, is the same ideology the Ayatollah wants. After the revolution, the Islamic Republic purged leftists, including pro‑Soviet groups.

This is why I said you have suicidal empathy. You think you are being nice to people who have patterns of subjugating people when they have the upper hand, but all you are doing is being careless.

We saw the same struggle in Korea. The Battle between communism and capitalism. I believe it was the same struggle in Vietnam. If it is not Russia spreading communism, it is the Chinese. and the are going against the US. So the rise of the Ayatollah is a result of communism and Islamism, which ousted the Pro-western/America Shah.

In many Western countries today, like the United States, the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, the Netherlands, and Sweden, there seems to be a collaboration between communists and Islamists aimed at undermining existing systems. They often criticize capitalism, try to silence dissenting voices, and portray Christianity as harmful. They present their actions as morally justified, claiming the moral high ground, yet at times celebrate the killing of those who simply wish to engage in civil discussion. They target billionaires, demanding their wealth be redistributed without effort on their part.

the Russians were also in Afghanistan. The U.S. supported the Taliban in driving them out, but later found itself unable to control those same Islamists, leading to the attacks on the World Trade Center.
You are struggling with history.. I can’t help you. History is there for you to read. If you decide to dance around it, it’s not my problem.

The US and the UK scattered a democratic Iran led government, and the aftermath is all you see today.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca:
bayelsaowei:
You are struggling with history.. I can’t help you. History is there for you to read. If you decide to dance around it, it’s not my problem.

The US and the UK scattered a democratic Iran led government, and the aftermath is all you see today.
If history doesn’t fit your agenda, you’ll say what I’m saying is wrong without offering what you believe is right. The Shah, who was there, fled when his power was challenged by the prime minister. the UK, who was on the receiving end because of what the PM did to their oil profit collaburated with the CIA (So MI6 and CIA) to attempt a first coup, which failed, and those involved were arrested. They tried again, and they were successful. The shah, who was afraid of losing influence and power, returned to his post. This time, he was pro-Western and did away with the experimental democratic system that was introduced in 1906.

So Islam was brewing in the background. And they took over. The US did not install the Ayatollah as you claimed earlier. Even if the US was not involved, they would have tried to take over in the way Boko Harambe are trying to take over.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 5:08pm On Mar 08
bayelsaowei:
It’s costing the US presently about a billion dollars per day to sustain this war. That number sounds cheap to you? With the present admin requesting for an additional half a trillion dollars on its defense budget?

But you still haven’t answered my question. Who will pay for it?

Whose pocket is it coming from.? And then relate your answer to welfare programs and health insurance that are being cut off by war mongers.
The Navy and Air Force cost over a billion dollars per day without a war.

They are able to survive a war with Iran for 20 years if that should be the case.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 5:09pm On Mar 08
basilico:
The same place it came from in WW2.
America fought on two fronts , How many armies can afford that?
You are a madt man walahi. I have serious doubts about your sanity.

Where do I start from? How much do you think the entire WW2 engagement cost the US?

Where and how did it get munitions from?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 5:15pm On Mar 08
benalvino3:
Jesse Jackson Jr. took a shot at Obama for not knowing who his father was, but turned their eulogy into a political f- Donald Trump rally.

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Jesse knew Obama well

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 5:38pm On Mar 08
bemeruca:
If history doesn’t fit your agenda, you’ll say what I’m saying is wrong without offering what you believe is right. The Shah, who was there, fled when his power was challenged by the prime minister of the UK, who was on the receiving end because of what the PM did to their oil profit collaburated with the CIA (So MI6 and CIA) to attempt a first coup, which failed, and those involved were arrested. They tried again, and they were successful. The shah, who was afraid of losing influence and power, returned to his post. This time, he was pro-Western and did away with the experimental democratic system that was introduced in 1906.

So Islam was brewing in the background. And they took over. The US did not install the Ayatollah as you claimed earlier. Even if the US was not involved, they would have tried to take over in the way Boko Harambe are trying to take over.
You’re not a serious person..

Who helped install the Shah? What happened in 1953? Did the US and UK ever interfere in the lives of Iranians? Please tell me what happened in 1953?

You’re a dancer.. so let’s dance.

Your last words are typical of you.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 5:43pm On Mar 08
bemeruca:
The Navy and Air Force cost over a billion dollars per day without a war.

They are able to survive a war with Iran for 20 years if that should be the case.
Who pays for it? Whose pockets does it come from? You are still dancing …

In country that over half of its population are either under paid or feeding from hand to mouth.

You’re an anti welfare for the less privileged, but a war monger.

Reason why I am asking these questions. Who pays for the extra cost of a needless war? And who was supposed to pay for the already gutted Medicaid and other social programs for poor Americans?

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ijebosb: 5:47pm On Mar 08
bayelsaowei:
Who pays for it? Whose pockets does it come from? You are still dancing …

In country that over half of its population are either under paid or feeding from hand to mouth.

You’re an anti welfare for the less privileged, but a war monger.

Reason why I am asking these questions. Who pays for the extra cost of a needless war? And who was supposed to pay for the already gutted Medicaid and other social programs for poor Americans?
You know you have been going back and forth with ChatGPT.
He has not written most of his posts.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca:
bayelsaowei:
You’re not a serious person..

Who helped install the Shah? What happened in 1953?

You’re a dancer.. so let’s dance.

Your last words are typical of you.
The Shah is a monarch, he was a hereditary monarch who took over from his father just like King Charles took over from his mother.

He ran a way when a democratic prime minister tried to reduced his power and influence. He only returned after the successful coup. So he was not installed, he is the king.

The only one dancing here is you.

He ruled as a monarch, not as an elected official.

His leaving Iran in 1953 and return is tied to the political crisis involving prime minister Mohammad Mossadegh who was democratically elected.

After the 1953 coup (supported by the CIA and MI6), the Shah returned and consolidated authoritarian power

So what's your point? Regardless of US actions, the islamist would have done their thing.

My last words are playing out in Nigeria, and other African nations. It played out in Afghanistan, Yemen, Etc.

You can choose to bury your head in the sand but facts are facts
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ijebosc: 5:51pm On Mar 08
bemeruca:
If history doesn’t fit your agenda, you’ll say what I’m saying is wrong without offering what you believe is right. The Shah, who was there, fled when his power was challenged by the prime minister of the UK, who was on the receiving end because of what the PM did to their oil profit collaburated with the CIA (So MI6 and CIA) to attempt a first coup, which failed, and those involved were arrested. They tried again, and they were successful. The shah, who was afraid of losing influence and power, returned to his post. This time, he was pro-Western and did away with the experimental democratic system that was introduced in 1906.
So Islam was brewing in the background. And they took over. The US did not install the Ayatollah as you claimed earlier. Even if the US was not involved, they would have tried to take over in the way Boko Harambe are trying to take over.

I'm not sure what new 419 Bemeruca is trying to run, but it sounds like it involves him sounding like a knowledgeable American.
Seems like he's enlisted ChatGPT to help.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 5:52pm On Mar 08
ijebosb:
You know you have been going back and forth with ChatGPT.
He has not written most of his posts.
You got enraged and blocked me on your other account, when I made your blood boil. Again, you will do the needful on this account 😁

But let me help you for once.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 5:53pm On Mar 08
Ijebosc:


I'm not sure what new 419 Bemeruca is trying to run, but it sounds like it involves him sounding like a knowledgeable American.
Seems like he's enlisted ChatGPT to help.
"Seems" it seems 😁
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 5:54pm On Mar 08
Any time IjeBos' boyfriend travels we will start seeing something like this 😁

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