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Fox is state Propaganda.

So, Trump wore a campaign baseball cap to the dignified transfer ceremony for the soldiers killed in this war.
Wearing a baseball cap in that setting is utterly disrespectful by any standard of decency.
In the past people used to take off baseball caps when funeral processions went by.

So, here enters Fox News.
Knowing they have an audience that would most likely be upset at that.
They decided to run old footage of another Trump dignified transfer ceremony.

Pic 1 is Trump at this recent ceremony
Pic 2 is Fox playing Trump at an old ceremony.

nateevs:
You are a madt man walahi. I have serious doubts about your sanity.

Where do I start from? How much do you think the entire WW2 engagement cost the US?

Where and how did it get munitions from?

You are costing the tomahawks , carriers , stealth fighters and so on .

WW2 at one time was 36% of America GDP. Do the maths today adjusted for inflation.

bayelsaowei:
who’s gonna pay for this war? How’s the budget overrun going to be covered?

Let me ask you and others the same annoying question you ask when it’s time to cater for needy citizens or the less privileged.

Iran masterminded the Beirut bombing where 241 US Marines lost their lives. Iran was responsible for a US warship attack
Iran was responsible for 604 deaths during the Iraq war ..

I won't talk about the havoc Iran (who shares no border with Israe) has caused the Jewish nation.

How much should a nation spend to ensure that state sponsor terrorist regime does not strike again? Give a decent figure, uiu can compute the cost of human lives wasted.

Gucciboy:
Truth is democrat wars on Iraq,libya and Afghanistan led millions of Arab Muslims into Europe and you can't deny this simple fact.

Truth is you need to educate yourself.

Maeve7:
Truth is you need to educate yourself.

we are REALLY in trouble in this age of ignorance. and it is only going to get much much worse

Some historical details from the allegations of the woman who said Trump sexually assaulted her at the age of 13 have been verified.
The biggest being that Epstein was actually in South Carolina during that period in contradiction to what Trump and co have been saying.

It also seems the DOJ found her to be credible, or they wouldn't have interviewed her 4 times.
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article314945648.html

GloriousGbola:
we are REALLY in trouble in this age of ignorance. and it is only going to get much much worse

I’m sometimes flabbergasted at the level of confident ignorance. You’d think that with the access to information we have nowadays, people would get smarter not dvmber. It’s frustrating.

bemeruca:
The Shah is a monarch, he was a hereditary monarch who took over from his father just like King Charles took over from his mother.

He ran a way when a democratic prime minister tried to reduced his power and influence. He only returned after the successful coup. So he was not installed, he is the king.

The only one dancing here is you.

He ruled as a monarch, not as an elected official.

His leaving Iran in 1953 and return is tied to the political crisis involving prime minister Mohammad Mossadegh who was democratically elected.

After the 1953 coup (supported by the CIA and MI6), the Shah returned and consolidated authoritarian power

So what's your point? Regardly of US actions, the islamist would have done their thing.

My last words are playing out in Nigeria, and other African nations. It played out in Afghanistan, Yemen, Etc.

You can choose to bury your head in the sand but facts are facts

Did the Iranians complain about being democratically led? The Shah came back after his masters (the US and UK) toppled the Iranian government, which then paved the way for his return. He then became a tyrant and an authoritarian the US/UK performed their wonders through.

The Iranians revolted and from then on have continued to resist any western influence on their lives. And in forging that path, the Islamic republic was firmly established. The Ayatollahs came.

You see the linear connection ?

It’s a cause and effect. US/UK amebo and greed led to the shattering of a democratic Iranian government, which then brought about the puppet dictator, and then the revolution and then Iran of today.

basilico:
Iran masterminded the Beirut bombing where 241 US Marines lost their lives. Iran was responsible for a US warship attack
Iran was responsible for 604 deaths during the Iraq war ..

I won't talk about the havoc Iran (who shares no border with Israe) has caused the Jewish nation.

How much should a nation spend to ensure that state sponsor terrorist regime does not strike again? Give a decent figure, uiu can compute the cost of human lives wasted.

You’re talking about the Iran American and UK created. The snake they nurtured you mean, that has now grown into a python.


They are about creating another snake today.

bayelsaowei:
Did the Iranians complain about being democratically led? The Shah came back after his masters (the US and UK) toppled the Iranian government, which then paved the way his return. He then became a tyrant and authoritarian the US/UK performed their wonders through.

The Iranians revolted and from then on have continued to resist any western influence on their lives. And in forging that path, the Islamic republic was firmly established. The Ayatollahs came.

You see the linear connection ?

It’s a cause and effect. US/UK amebo and greed led to the shattering of a democratic Iranian government, which then brought about the puppet dictator, and then the revolution and then Iran of today.

He controls the army, but he fled because he was scared. The Prime Minister sought to strip his powers to control the army. The PM wants the army to be under the authority of the elected government, not the Shah. The PM believes the Monarch was outdated. So he was elected, then he tried to overthrow the Monarch, causing the Shah to flee.

The PM then nationalized BP, seizing control from the British Empire. The British Empire then decided to overthrow the Prime Minister, seeking to overthrow the Monarch to take back control of the oil. The US joined because of the Cold War with Russia.

So again, the UK or the US did not install anyone. The King was there; he ran away and came back.

You can say their actions played a role - no one has hindsight then. Something to think about.

Maeve7:
I’m sometimes flabbergasted at the level of confident ignorance. You’d think that with the access to information we have nowadays, people would get smarter not dvmber. It’s frustrating.

not when people are getting their info from tiktok
i think this is why Chinese have apparently passed a law that you cannot be an influencer on a subject without being actually grounded in it

The administration saying this while still talking about Bengahzi and the troops lost during the Afghan withdrawal.
No sense of shame.

bayelsaowei:
You’re talking about the Iran American and UK created. The snake they nurtured you mean, that has now grown into a python.


They are about creating another snake today.

.America helped the Shah come to power. Who became corrupt and a dictator.
Khomeini became popular with his exhortations of returning Persia to Sharia. His message resonated , he became supreme leader.

Current Iran had nothing to do with America.
But if you want to go to 1954, we can also blame Reagan for 9/11 attack.

basilico:
.America helped the Shah come to power. Who became corrupt and a dictator.
Khomeini became popular with his exhortations of returning Persia to Sharia. His message resonated , he became supreme leader.

Current Iran had nothing to do with America.
But if you want to go to 1954, we can also blame Reagan for 9/11 attack.

And he is now angry the Americans dealt with the Python.

Trump says he might send ground troops to Iran

Mojtaba Khamenei,Son of late supreme leader named his successor.

Imagine their level of sense lessness. Things that benefit Americans = socialism/communism =terrible.

In the same breath they’re screaming “America first” while actively supporting all the anti-American policies of this current administration.

The same administration that’s currently funding Israel’s war to the tune of billions a day? But we can’t have taxpayer-funded healthcare or maternity leave because that’s not placing America first.

The lack of thought is astonishing. I wonder if they even think about the things they regurgitate from rotten right wing media.

bayelsaowei:
He is not wasting his time.

I see you and others shout your throats out when monies are kept aside for social upkeep of needy citizens of the US.

Funds for Medicaid and health insurance have been gutted simply because many like you assume it is not the governments responsibility to cater for such ones. You ask who is gonna pay for it.

So I ask you. Who is going to pay for this avoidable and needless war? Who? From whose pockets?

The things they accuse North Korea of doing

IjeBos:
Fox is state Propaganda.

So, Trump wore a campaign baseball cap to the dignified transfer ceremony for the soldiers killed in this war.
Wearing a baseball cap in that setting is utterly disrespectful by any standard of decency.
In the past people used to take off baseball caps when funeral processions went by.

So, here enters Fox News.
Knowing they have an audience that would most likely be upset at that.
They decided to run old footage of another Trump dignified transfer ceremony.

Pic 1 is Trump at this recent ceremony
Pic 2 is Fox playing Trump at an old ceremony.

IjeBos:
Some historical details from the allegations of the woman who said Trump SA’d her at the age of 13 have been verified.
The biggest being that Epstein was actually in South Carolina during that period in contradiction to what Trump and co have been saying.

The Truth is that they’ve always known.

These people are so profoundly rotten that they would rather vote an equally rotten man like them than support a woman.

At least they can get to live vicariously through him. They weren’t deceived or hoodwinked. He’s who they are.

cococandy:
Imagine their level of sense lessness. Things that benefit Americans = socialism/communism =terrible.

In the same breath they’re screaming “America first” while actively supporting all the anti-American policies of this current administration.

The same administration that’s currently funding Israel’s war to the tune of billions a day? But we can’t have taxpayer-funded healthcare or maternity leave because that’s not placing America first.

The lack of thought is astonishing. I wonder if they even think about the things they regurgitate from rotten right wing media.

I think they might be mentally ill or completely hypnotized by right wing extremism. Because It’s not possible that people can reason the way they do. Suddenly there is so much endless money to fight Iran for 2 decades, but none to sustain the health premiums of many.

Never seen a set of stewpid people who would support billions of dollars spent on a needless war than sponsor programs for kids and the needy and health care. And they come out and claim they are Christians.

cococandy:
The Truth is that they’ve always known.

These people are so profoundly rotten that they would rather vote an equally rotten man like them than support a woman.

At least they can get to live vicariously through him. They weren’t deceived or hoodwinked. He’s who they are.

They are all cut out from the same cloth.

Trump is their mirror. They see themselves in Trump. Vile and astronomically immoral.

bayelsaowei:
I think they might be mentally ill or completely hypnotized by right wing extremism. Because It’s not possible that people can reason the way they do. Suddenly there is so much endless money to fight Iran for 2 decades, but none to sustain the health premiums of many.

Never seen a set of stewpid people who would support billions of dollars spent on a needless war than sponsor programs for kids and the needy and health care. And they come out and claim they are Christians.

The World does not work the way you think it should.

You don't think about leaving your doors open because the thief who will come and rob you should be thinking of what God will do to him.
It is the same reason countries have Armies and law enforcement.

People don’t behave ideally, so nations prepare for threats. Defense spending is justified because danger exists, regardless of what people should do.

This is Realism.

cococandy:
The Truth is that they’ve always known.

These people are so profoundly rotten that they would rather vote an equally rotten man like them than support a woman.

At least they can get to live vicariously through him. They weren’t deceived or hoodwinked. He’s who they are.

I didn't realize how disgusting and devastating these allegations were and that the FBI found her credible.
If they had been released before the 2024 election esp. the fact that the FBI interviewed her more than 4 times, I would say it would have been hard for Trump to be elected but MAGA is MAGA.

But, now that we know the FBI found this accuser credible, Republicans will still continue to argue that Garland weaponized the DOJ but didn't weaponize the things that would have really hurt Trump like this Epstein matter.

benalvino3:
The World does not work the way you think it should.

You don't think about leaving your doors open because the thief who will come and rob you should be thinking of what God will do to him.
It is the same reason countries have Armies and law enforcement.

People don’t behave ideally, so nations prepare for threats. Defense spending is justified because danger exists, regardless of what people should do.

This is Realism.

Realism is that a sovereign nation should accomplish both, especially for a country that is extremely rich, a super power and can fund irrelevant wars costing billions. You can’t over protect citizens who are hungry, lack adequate health care, poorly educated, downtrodden etc - especially when these same citizens pay taxes with expectations that they benefit from basic programs to make their lives liveable.

You see the reason why I said it is either you guys have become mentally ill, completely lost home training or have become astronomically immoral.

If not why would a normal human being try to explain why governments would over spend on supposed national security (=war mongering) whilst the people the government is trying to protect, languish in suffering.

You need to re-evaluate your thought process. It has become rotten.

Your realism is full of gibberish.

benalvino3:
And he is now angry the Americans dealt with the Python.

I've been reading testimonies of Iranians who escaped .
_Walk a dog , they shoot it and charge you for the bullet.
_Must step on a painted American abd Israel flags outside govt buildings and institutions before entering.
_Women have been arrested for not covering their hair or wearing short dresses.
_Women in prison are usually raped by the guards to teach them a lesson
_ If you are gay chances of being hanged in public are very high
_ Protests are met with bullets and cruel torture if arrested

Blame America for this?

bayelsaowei:
Realism is that a sovereign nation should accomplish both, especially for a country that is extremely rich, a super power and can fund irrelevant wars costing billions. You can’t over protect citizens who are hungry, lack adequate health care, poorly educated, downtrodden etc - especially when these same citizens pay taxes with expectations that they benefit from basic programs to make their lives liveable.

You see the reason why I said it is either you guys have become mentally ill, completely lost home training or have become astronomically immoral.

If not why would a normal human being try to explain why governments would over spend on supposed national security (=war mongering) whilst the people the government is trying to protect, languish in suffering.

You need to re-evaluate your thought process. It has become rotten.

Your realism is full of gibberish.

Nonsense the amount being spent is less than the fraud that Minnesota Governor Tim Walz allowed to take place.

happney65:
Mojtaba Khamenei,Son of late supreme leader named his successor.

Target painted bright red. Why bother being a leader if you can't live above the ground.

https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/journalist-estafany-rodriguez-detained-ice-1783779

ICE-Detained Journalist Estefany Rodriguez Has Disappeared: 'We Don't Know Where She Is'
Journalist Estafany Rodríguez, known for ICE raid coverage, detained by ICE without warrant; whereabouts unknown, press freedom at risk.

reminds me of the Abacha years when brave journalists were detained without trial

https://ifex.org/nigerian-journalist-arrested/

(ARTICLE 19/IFEX) – Onome Osifo-Whiskey, managing editor of Tell magazine in Nigeria was arrested on the morning of 10 November 1997. He was arrested by officials of the Directorate of Military Intelligence as he was on his way home from church with his family. There is no information yet about where he is being held. […]

(ARTICLE 19/IFEX) – Onome Osifo-Whiskey, managing editor of Tell
magazine in Nigeria was arrested on the morning of 10 November
1997. He was arrested by officials of the Directorate of
Military Intelligence as he was on his way home from church
with his family. There is no information yet about where he is
being held.

Good day thread mates. I'm just getting caught up the DJT vs UK PM Starmer riff. 😲


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8oOdIXTIlM?si=dV7XGCrV6onWiiXh