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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 9:35am On Mar 09
basilico:
Nonsense the amount being spent is less than the fraud that Minnesota Governor Tim Walz allowed to take place.
You went straight to Minnesota, but have totally avoided the fact that millions of Americans across the country are now paying through their noses for health premiums. Whilst war mongering is ongoing that benefits not one poor American.

Allow the investigations for Minnesota to be completed, so that we can have a concrete grasp on how much fraud we are talking about. And then a spend comparison can be made. But I will tell you, with the cost trend of $1billion per day to wage war with Iran, I doubt what ever fraud you think has happened in Minnesota can be compared to it.

But know this. No monies spent on the welfare of citizens is ever enough. If a country can’t take care of its own people (that pay taxes), but focus on fighting needless wars, then that country’s leadership needs to be questioned.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Gucciboy: 12:12pm On Mar 09
bayelsaowei:
Realism is that a sovereign nation should accomplish both, especially for a country that is extremely rich, a super power and can fund irrelevant wars costing billions. You can’t over protect citizens who are hungry, lack adequate health care, poorly educated, downtrodden etc - especially when these same citizens pay taxes with expectations that they benefit from basic programs to make their lives liveable.

You see the reason why I said it is either you guys have become mentally ill, completely lost home training or have become astronomically immoral.

If not why would a normal human being try to explain why governments would over spend on supposed national security (=war mongering) whilst the people the government is trying to protect, languish in suffering.

You need to re-evaluate your thought process. It has become rotten.

Your realism is full of gibberish.
But this aren't the first time USA is spending billions on wars or you forgot iraq and Afghanistan wars even Vietnam should we name them?

Funny enough all this happened under democrats governments
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 12:32pm On Mar 09
bayelsaowei:
Realism is that a sovereign nation should accomplish both, especially for a country that is extremely rich, a super power and can fund irrelevant wars costing billions. You can’t over protect citizens who are hungry, lack adequate health care, poorly educated, downtrodden etc - especially when these same citizens pay taxes with expectations that they benefit from basic programs to make their lives liveable.

You see the reason why I said it is either you guys have become mentally ill, completely lost home training or have become astronomically immoral.

If not why would a normal human being try to explain why governments would over spend on supposed national security (=war mongering) whilst the people the government is trying to protect, languish in suffering.

You need to re-evaluate your thought process. It has become rotten.

Your realism is full of gibberish.
You are talking past me and you are more focused on ad-hominems instead of understanding what's been said.

You are saying how the government should work,

I am saying how government actually work. One is based on realism, the other is based on perception.

For example. A man jumps from a building and hit the ground and die. Then you come and say the man should have grown wings and fly. That's your perception of how reality should be. But me I am saying if a man jumps from a building he is going to fall to his death. That's realism.

The world is not governed by morality or goodwill.
States must prepare for threats regardless of what you think people should do.
So defense spending is necessary.

So you are making a moral argument and government policy, but my point still stands.

Yes Government should prioritize welfare but the problem is: welfare programs depend on security and stability.
Without thst - infrastructure gets destroyed
economic activity collapses
tax revenue disappears, etc.

After Russian invasion of Ukraine, they had to divert huge resources to defense because survival became the priority.
Countries without effective security like Somalia during state collapse cannot maintain functioning healthcare or education systems.

So there is a sequence - Security > economic stability > tax revenue > welfare programs

Many countries that spend less on defense can do so because someone else provides security.

I was complaining about the UK which refused to send their ships to protect their own people. They said americans already have ships there.

So the welfare you see in the UK and Europe is because of American spending for security, which acts as a deterrent that shields Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, to all the NATO countries.

So countries with strong welfare systems sometimes benefit from another country’s military spending which creast the free-rider problem; enjoying security while someone else pays for it.

Israel had to spend or defence or they die.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 12:40pm On Mar 09
basilico:
I've been reading testimonies of Iranians who escaped .
_Walk a dog , they shoot it and charge you for the bullet.
_Must step on a painted American abd Israel flags outside govt buildings and institutions before entering.
_Women have been arrested for not covering their hair or wearing short dresses.
_Women in prison are usually raped by the guards to teach them a lesson
_ If you are gay chances of being hanged in public are very high
_ Protests are met with bullets and cruel torture if arrested

Blame America for this?
I am sure he would be singing praise for humanity if someone else stopped the Ayatollahs. Not too long ago, he was begging for Israel to come and deal with Boko Harambe because he approved their work on Hamas.

If he feels all they do is murder innocent women and children, he would not have asked for that.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 12:42pm On Mar 09
bayelsaowei:
You went straight to Minnesota, but have totally avoided the fact that millions of Americans across the country are now paying through their noses for health premiums. Whilst war mongering is ongoing that benefits not one poor American.

Allow the investigations for Minnesota to be completed, so that we can have a concrete grasp on how much fraud we are talking about. And then a spend comparison can be made. But I will tell you, with the cost trend of $1billion per day to wage war with Iran, I doubt what ever fraud you think has happened in Minnesota can be compared to it.

But know this. No monies spent on the welfare of citizens is ever enough. If a country can’t take care of its own people (that pay taxes), but focus on fighting needless wars, then that country’s leadership needs to be questioned.
Money spent is only important when it comes to liberating people from tyrannical leaders.

When it comes to fraud perpetrated by democrats , extremely thorough investigations are needed.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 1:51pm On Mar 09
Gucciboy:
But this aren't the first time USA is spending billions on wars or you forgot iraq and Afghanistan wars even Vietnam should we name them?

Funny enough all this happened under democrats governments
Democrat Governments like that under famous Democrat George W. Bush?
Instead of ceasing to post things you have 0 clue about you've doubled down.

In the last 40 years every Republican president has launched a war in the Middle East.

Bush - Iraq
Bush jr - Iraq, Afghanistan
Trump - Iran

And I'm sure the next Republican will come along and promise no new wars or foreign intervention like Bush jr. and Trump did.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 1:51pm On Mar 09
First Fulton, now Maricopa.

FBI has seized gigabytes of election material from Maricopa county Arizona.

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/monfbi-secretly-seizes-election-records-arizonas-largest-county-voting

The current governor never won,she was incharge of running her election as secretary of state
Joe Biden didn't win Arizona.


basilico:
Affidavit to grant search warrant of Fulton Election rigging unsealed. Many grounds, I'll list only the first 5.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.gand.355087/gov.uscourts.gand.355087.22.1_1.pdf

(a) tabulator machines used by Fulton County are designed to create and save a scanned image of each ballot. Fulton County has admitted that it does not have scanned images of all the 528,777 ballots counted during the Original Count or the
527,925 ballots counted during the Recount.

b. Fulton County has confirmed that during the Recount of votes, some ballots were scanned multiple times. Ballot images made available in response to public record requests show ballots with unique markings duplicated within the ballot images.

c.) During the Risk Limiting Audit, auditors counting the votes by hand reported vote tallies for batches inconsistent with the actual votes within the batch. The State’s
Performance Review Board2 reported that Secretary of State investigators confirmed inaccurate batch tallies from the Risk Limiting Audit.

d. Auditors assisting in the Risk Limiting Audit reported counting purported absentee ballots that had never been creased or folded, as would be required for the ballot to
be mailed to the voter and for the ballot to be returned in the sealed envelope requiring the voter’s signature for authentication.

e. On the day of the deadline to report the Recount results, Fulton County reported a recount totaling 511,343 ballots, 17,434 ballots fewer than original counted. The following day, Fulton County then reported a total of 527,925 ballots counted.


Clearly Fulton swung Georgia to Biden. BREAKING: A Panicked Fulton County Georgia & Democrat Party Have Filed An Emergency Motion Asking A Federal Judge To STOP THE @FBI & @TheJusticeDept FROM REVIEWING ANY BALLOTS OR ELECTION MATERIALS SEIZED FROM THE COUNTY UNDER A SEARCH WARRANT BACKED RAID They fought for 5 years to prevent anyone from seeing the ballot materials.
The question at this time should be how many should go to jail in Fulton then Georgia. Fani Willis,Shayne Moss and Ruby,Georgia SoS and Governor should be held culpable.

The left declared the 2020 election the most secure ever.
**Similar to nen can get pregnant***


Budaatum, they didn't want the bamboo ballots to be ever seen.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 2:30pm On Mar 09
Gullible folks think the present US administration cares about the lives of people in other countries (after all they give no hoot about American citizens who survive barely on paycheck to payCheck and can’t afford healthcare), but we all know the main reason for the attacks in iran. See below from one of the chief war mongers:

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 2:38pm On Mar 09
basilico:
Money spent is only important when it comes to liberating people from tyrannical leaders.

When it comes to fraud perpetrated by democrats , extremely thorough investigations are needed.
When you suspect fraud, you investigate. That’s the procedure.

When it comes to welfare of citizens, that should be prioritized by any right thinking leadership. If one does not take care of his own household, the bible says that person is worse than a person without faith.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 4:19pm On Mar 09
Trump wants Asylum for the Iranian female soccer team

https://x.com/WhiteHouse/status/2031014184419197259
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 4:51pm On Mar 09
😆🤣😂😂😂

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 5:01pm On Mar 09
raumdeuter:
Trump wants Asylum for the Iranian female soccer team

https://x.com/WhiteHouse/status/2031014184419197259
Now you are pro-asylum?
You should really take some time and figure out what values you stand for.

https://www.npr.org/2025/12/01/nx-s1-5625878/trump-administration-halts-asylum-decisions-as-legal-migration-crackdown-intensifies

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 5:18pm On Mar 09
IjeBos:
Now you are pro-asylum?
You should really take some time and figure out what values you stand for.

https://www.npr.org/2025/12/01/nx-s1-5625878/trump-administration-halts-asylum-decisions-as-legal-migration-crackdown-intensifies
I am pro legal immigration What are you for beyond Anti - Trump
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 5:23pm On Mar 09
raumdeuter:
I am pro legal immigration What are you for beyond Anti - Trump
see person wey Dey talk…

😂😂😅😅.


You sound clownish
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 5:31pm On Mar 09
bayelsaowei:
see person wey Dey talk…
😂😂😅😅.
You sound clownish
Have you read your posts to another person to tell you how you sound
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 5:57pm On Mar 09
bayelsaowei:
see person wey Dey talk…

😂😂😅😅.


You sound clownish
He is pro or anti anything Trump tells him to. You know how MAGA like "strong" men who tell them what to think.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 5:58pm On Mar 09
Raumdeuter's World: Trump and Musk did well firing all those government workers. The government was bloated, we didn't need all those government workers. Let's get the private sector in gear.

Real World:

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 6:02pm On Mar 09
raumdeuter:
I am pro legal immigration What are you for beyond Anti - Trump
Try writing a sentence without your "right wing" pick a propaganda phrase.

Trump shuts down asylum: Raumdeuter - Yay
Trump says he'll give asylum to Iran soccer team: Raumdeuter - also Yay
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 6:04pm On Mar 09
More evidence suggests the US Tomahawk was responsible for the school casualties. CENT COM has not confirmed it yet.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 6:16pm On Mar 09
IjeBos:
Try writing a sentence without your "right wing" pick a propaganda phrase.

Trump shuts down asylum: Ramdeuter - Yay
Trump says he'll give asylum to Iran soccer team: Rumdeuter - also Yay
So what are you crying about exactly?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 6:17pm On Mar 09
IjeBos:
Ramdeuter's World: Trump and Musk did well firing all those government workers. The government was bloated, we didn't need all those government workers. Let's get the private sector in gear.
Real World:
Hire only people who would provide services not just hiring for the sake of it and bloating the govt

You seem to have resumed your tears again this morning. Do you get a break
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 6:18pm On Mar 09
benalvino3:
More evidence suggests the US Tomahawk was responsible for the school casualties. CENT COM has not confirmed it yet.
Ok..

Trump has emphatically said it is Irans. 🏃🏿‍♂️‍➡️🏃🏿‍♂️‍➡️
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 6:19pm On Mar 09
Maeve7:
He is pro or anti anything Trump tells him to. You know how MAGA like "strong" men who tell them what to think.
Which flag are you carrying today

Palestine Ukraine, Venezuela Mexico or Iran

Have they given you orders on what to protest against this time
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 6:22pm On Mar 09
bayelsaowei:
Ok..

Trump has emphatically said it is Irans. 🏃🏿‍♂️‍➡️🏃🏿‍♂️‍➡️
Well, he is not the one doing the investigation. The evidence I have seen points to the US.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 6:27pm On Mar 09
raumdeuter:
So what are you crying about exactly?
so you don’t know?

Let me help you.. see below.

You supported all of these unruly actions. And suddenly you wanna be pro legal asylum??

Don’t always support wrong things. Raumdeuter, CHANGE your bad ways. CHANGE!!! 🤣🤣🤣

Na immigrant you be oo.. or maybe the child of an immigrant.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 6:28pm On Mar 09
benalvino3:
Well, he is not the one doing the investigation. The evidence I have seen points to the US.
I must take Trumps words. He is an emperor and his words means Truth.

🏃🏿‍♂️‍➡️🏃🏿‍♂️‍➡️🏃🏿‍♂️‍➡️😂😂😂
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m):
benalvino3:
More evidence suggests the US Tomahawk was responsible for the school casualties. CENT COM has not confirmed it yet.
I am actually waiting for that drun-kard Hegseth to update the American people and the international community on this.

Senseless war driven by ego and greed.

Same with Karoline..let’s see how they dance disco on this to the American people.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 6:51pm On Mar 09
bayelsaowei:
so you don’t know?

Let me help you.. see below.

You supported all of these unruly actions. And suddenly you wanna be pro legal asylum??

Don’t always support wrong things. Ramdeuter, CHANGE your bad ways. CHANGE!!! 🤣🤣🤣

Na immigrant you be oo.. or maybe the child of an immigrant.
I am pro legal immigration you are pro illegal immigraiton

Change your ways
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 6:51pm On Mar 09
President Trump on Truth Social: “I just spoke to Prime Minister Anthony Albanese, of Australia, concerning the Iranian National Women’s Soccer Team. He’s on it! Five have already been taken care of, and the rest are on their way. Some, however, feel they must go back because they are worried about the safety of their families, including threats to those family members if they don’t return. In any event, the Prime Minister is doing a very good job having to do with this rather delicate situation. God bless Australia! President DONALD J. TRUMP”




https://x.com/WhiteHouse/status/2031041027176292490
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 6:59pm On Mar 09
raumdeuter:
I am pro legal immigration you are pro illegal immigraiton

Change your ways
😂😂😅😅..
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 7:05pm On Mar 09
Apparently a would be terrorist, climbed on top of a leftist to launch a bomb which fortunately did not detonate



Terrorists literally see the leftists as a trampoline or launch pad to destroy the west
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