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Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by bobestman(m): 8:57pm On Mar 09
MaxInDHouse:
Since you called it "My Bible" humility should help you to listen and learn!🙂
How can a person who don't know the difference between what is written in the bible and my own words teach me?. Its not today that I have been teaching you bible. Remember I once told you I will teach your GB who brainwashed you people
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by bobestman(m): 10:13pm On Mar 09
sonmvayina:
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The universe is a single entity(God) we are part of God and he is part of us. it is simple enough. God is the universal consciousness.
we are the physical manifestations of God. I am God experiencing life as sonmvayina, you are God experiencing life as Truthseeker..etc. we all have the God spark. when we expire, our consciousness returns to the universe (God) and our body is buried for it to return to dust....

what is so so had for you to grasp?
They are children that had been misinformed for long. They have been here for decades arguing, fighting for whatever they believe without asking themselves if they are right or wrong. They refused to do anything to add to the little they know so they can vibrate higher to see their many errors. If they can't proof you wrong they twist and manipulate whatever to push you away. They never admit their mistakes. Every minutes they are here arguing and fighting like jobless clones. If you keep arguing with them they will drag you to their level. They are just children who should be learning but they want to teach cos they think they know
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by MaxInDHouse(m):
bobestman:
How can a person who don't know the difference between what is written in the bible and my own words teach me?. Its not today that I have been teaching you bible. Remember I once told you I will teach your GB who brainwashed you people
Wisdom is what you lack but here is it.

If you want to enroll yourself in school for knowledge which will you choose between these two:

A group of men who has scholars being taught by them from all over the world or a single self acclaimed teacher who has no students at all?

The GB has gotten followers in millions throughout the earth and their students are doing fine in all societies they could be found so if you are now claiming you can teach such a group on Nairaland what else should you be compared to if not an empty barrel?🤣
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:47am On Mar 10
Most times people don't realize they are empty barrels!
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by sonmvayina(m): 9:01am On Mar 10
Truthseeker10:
So God has been killing and raping God on earth?
sound weird, but it is true.....because of ignorance and your group is busy misinforming and miseducating people. it is all ignorance of who we truly are.
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by sonmvayina(m): 9:04am On Mar 10
MaxInDHouse:
You confused guy.
Go to any school as in any around you and tell students Bible characters aren't real people then come back and share your experience?🤣
That's what i do any time i have an opportunity. They are always happy to learn.

I teach them the messages in the story and that is what they take away and live by...The letter killeth, the spirit giveth life....
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:12am On Mar 10
sonmvayina:
That's what i do any time i have an opportunity. They are always happy to learn.I teach them the messages in the story and that is what they take away and live by...The letter killeth, the spirit giveth life....
Until they are assembled and noticed by everyone you remain a liar!🙂
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by Truthseeker10: 9:38am On Mar 10
sonmvayina:
sound weird, but it is true.....because of ignorance and your group is busy misinforming and miseducating people. it is all ignorance of who we truly are.
Lol....thank you for informing us that your God is responsible for the rape and killing on earth.
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:39am On Mar 10
Just imagine what someone is saying o!🙂
QUESTION:
Truthseeker10:
So God has been killing and raping God on earth?
ANSWER:
sonmvayina:
sound weird, but it is true.....
And that's sound teaching!🤣
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:41am On Mar 10
Truthseeker10:
Lol....thank you for informing us that your God is responsible for the rape and killing on earth.
That's what he's been teaching and he's gotten lots of students swallowing this o!🤣
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by bobestman(m): 9:54am On Mar 10
MaxInDHouse:
Wisdom is what you lack but here is it.

If you want to enroll yourself in school for knowledge who will you choose between these two:

A group of men who has scholars being taught by them from all over the world or a single self acclaimed teacher who has no students at all?

The GB has gotten followers in millions throughout the earth and their students are doing fine in all societies they could be found so if you are now claiming you can teach such a group on Nairaland what else should you be compared to if not an empty barrel?🤣
I will chose a single teacher who is intune with his Creator cos MANY are called but FEW are chosen. The narrow way according to Christ that leads to LIFE is not found by the MANY and crowds but the FEW. You people are deceived by crowds. You think your MANY crowd means you are in the truth but I tell you, you are in ignorance and blindness. All your religions have the crowd but are Ignorant of many things written and if you examine them you can see many of their wrongs. The original meaning of church is those who are "called out". It means those called out from the crowd or multitudes. If God really wanna use you, he will "call you out" from that religious crowd of ignorance. Hide your ignorance and pride and learn from this great teaching that your GB and religious crowd can never teach you 🤣🤣🤣. I am miles ahead of both of you and your GB put together 😀😀
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:53am On Mar 10
bobestman:
I will chose a single teacher who is intune with his Creator.
That's you while i will choose a group whose product is worthwhile globally!🙂
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by FxMasterz(op): 2:55pm On Mar 10
sonmvayina:
Have you seen the laws Marduk gave to Hamurabi? which is like 2000+ years before the Jews came into existence
much of the Jewish laws are just recaps or recast of earlier Babylon myths and legends, where Marduk is the chief God. it was even Marduk who asked them to go to Babylon during the exile to learn about him.....see the book of Jeremiah.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30v0uFpzPyQ?si=XneaLlb0ST9xJRHt


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2y2IHhYJzg4?si=X7ighgm8eHXzJFgJ
I have seen the laws of Hammurabi. They're not in anyway similar to the Torah.
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by FxMasterz(op): 3:05pm On Mar 10
Truthseeker10:
So now that you've taught us that the father son and holy spirit is one person, and we don't accept, will we be saved?
Why do you like repeating questions already answered?

I have taught you. Did God say I'm your final authority? The Bible is your final authority. Go and study more like the Bereans and make your decision. Any decision you make, you'll be saved as long as it's a sincere decision based on your understanding of what you studied.

[<quote]1)So FxMasterz.....are you saying that me associating with you in respect to Jesus command in John 13:34, 35 is foolishness because you could be error too?[/quote]If you believe everything I say without first confirming things yourself, you're foolish.

If you believe any doctrine without first confirming from the Scriptures yourself, you're foolish.

If you take anything from any man without taking the Bible as your final authority, you're foolish.

2)You claim to have concrete absolute agreement with the word. Does that mean that the whole of christendom should come to you to learn the whole truth of the word?
The question you're asking is preposterous.

Every Believer should have concrete and absolute agreement with the Word for himself. No one needs to go to anybody to learn the whole truth without ensuring that the said truth is in absolute alignment with the Word of God.

Do you know any other person on this platform or elsewhere who has absolute agreement with the word just like you?
Ask God about that. I am not an umpire in the Kingdom.

I strive myself to be be in absolute alignment with the Word of God. Everyone should do the same, and let God judge His people
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by Truthseeker10: 3:17pm On Mar 10
FxMasterz:
Why do you like repeating questions already answered?

I have taught you. Did God say I'm your final authority? The Bible is your final authority. Go and study more like the Bereans and make your decision. Any decision you make, you'll be saved as long as it's a sincere decision based on your understanding of what you studied.

[<quote]1)So FxMasterz.....are you saying that me associating with you in respect to Jesus command in John 13:34, 35 is foolishness because you could be error too?
If you believe everything I say without first confirming things yourself, you're foolish.

If you believe any doctrine without first confirming from the Scriptures yourself, you're foolish.

If you take anything from any man without taking the Bible as your final authority, you're foolish.

2)You claim to have concrete absolute agreement with the word. Does that mean that the whole of christendom should come to you to learn the whole truth of the word?
The question you're asking is preposterous.

Every Believer should have concrete and absolute agreement with the Word for himself. No one needs to go to anybody to learn the whole truth without ensuring that the said truth is in absolute alignment with the Word of God.

Do you know any other person on this platform or elsewhere who has absolute agreement with the word just like you?
Ask God about that. I am not an umpire in the Kingdom.

I strive myself to be be in absolute alignment with the Word of God. Everyone should do the same, and let God judge His people
🤣🤣🤣in all of these that you've Witten above, you've just called yourself a liar.

You claim to have absolute concrete agreement with the word of God. But you are here giving out the possibility that other ideas that contradict yours are also ideas that leads to salvation.

You are very funny.
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by FxMasterz(op): 4:06pm On Mar 10
Truthseeker10:
🤣🤣🤣in all of these that you've Witten above, you've just called yourself a liar.

You claim to have absolute concrete agreement with the word of God. But you are here giving out the possibility that other ideas that contradict yours are also ideas that leads to salvation.

You are very funny.
You're the liar.

I have never said any idea, either mine or others lead to salvation.

I have consistently said that the only thing that leads to salvation is your solid belief in the finished works of Christ on Calvary.

You're just a mischief maker.
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by Truthseeker10: 4:13pm On Mar 10
FxMasterz:
You're the liar.

I have never said any idea, either mine or others lead to salvation.

I have consistently said that the only thing that leads to salvation is your solid belief in the finished works of Christ on Calvary.

You're just a mischief maker.
But according to you, any belief about the identity of Christ does not matter in salvation. Whether one believes he is One God Or one out of three God, Isn't it?

Is that the absolute agreement you got from the word of God?
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by FxMasterz(op): 4:26pm On Mar 10
Truthseeker10:
But according to you, any belief about the identity of Christ does not matter in salvation. Whether one believes he is One God Or one out of three God, Isn't it?

Is that the absolute agreement you got from the word of God?
You guys are just plain ignorant. And very illogical too.

Listen, let me ask you a question, as I don't know why you keep asking illogical questions. Yet, I tried all my best to answer you.

Now if someone who is a Muslim got converted today. He knows nothing about Trinity or no Trinity. He has no doctrune whatsoever. But, he believes that Christ died and rose again for his salvation. That's all he knows for now.

Let me ask you. Will he be saved if he dies today?

Learning is a progressive endeavor. God does not judge you on the basis of what you know today about Him or doctrine because, with more knowledge, you could change your perception tomorrow. He judges you on the basis of whether you accept Jesus as your Savior or not. Simple as ABC. All other things are variables. Except you deliberately do wickedness and reject what you KNOW to be the Truth.

Believe the Lord Jesus as your Lord and Savior. Stay true to the Bible to the best of your knowledge. Confirm all doctrines. Serve God in all sincerity. You'll be saved.
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by Truthseeker10: 4:57pm On Mar 10
FxMasterz:
You guys are just plain ignorant. And very illogical too.

Listen, let me ask you a question, as I don't know why you keep asking illogical questions. Yet, I tried all my best to answer you.

Now if someone who is a Muslim got converted today. He knows nothing about Trinity or no Trinity. He has no doctrune whatsoever. But, he believes that Christ died and rose again for his salvation. That's all he knows for now.

Let me ask you. Will he be saved if he dies today?

Learning is a progressive endeavor. God does not judge you on the basis of what you know today about Him or doctrine because, with more knowledge, you could change your perception tomorrow. He judges you on the basis of whether you accept Jesus as your Savior or not. Simple as ABC. All other things are variables. Except you deliberately do wickedness and reject what you KNOW to be the Truth.

Believe the Lord Jesus as your Lord and Savior. Stay true to the Bible to the best of your knowledge. Confirm all doctrines. Serve God in all sincerity. You'll be saved.
So you mean a Muslim does not need to know the identity of Christ whether is is one God or not. It does not matter to his salvation?

Below in bold is your statement.

"Any decision you make, you'll be saved as long as it's a sincere decision based on your understanding of what you studied."

According to your statement above, any contradictory conclusions that people have on the identity of Christ leads to salvation?
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by FxMasterz(op): 5:02pm On Mar 10
Truthseeker10:
So you mean a Muslim does not need to know the identity of Christ whether is is one God or not. It does not matter to his salvation?

Below in bold is your statement.

"Any decision you make, you'll be saved as long as it's a sincere decision based on your understanding of what you studied."

According to your statement above, any contradictory conclusions that people have on the identity of Christ leads to salvation?
Positions are based on knowledge!

Your positions change as you know better. Should God judge based on changing positions? God is not a fool.

I have asked you a question, you refused to answer.

1. Would the Muslim know everything about Christ the very moment he got converted?

2. Would he be lost for the things he does not currently know?

Answer me.
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by Truthseeker10: 5:04pm On Mar 10
FxMasterz:
Positions are based on knowledge!

Your positions change as you know better. Should God judge based on changing positions? God is not a fool.

I have asked you s question, you refused to answer.

1. Would the Muslim know everything about Christ the very moment he got converted?

2. Who he be lost for the things he does not currently know?

Answer me.
So you mean one can be a Christian without the true knowledge of the identity of Christ?

Anything he thinks Christ is leads to salvation according to you.
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by FxMasterz(op): 5:11pm On Mar 10
Truthseeker10:
So you mean one can be a Christian without the true knowledge of the identity of Christ?

Anything he thinks Christ is leads to salvation according to you.
Would you answer my questions, or find something else to do?

Does a child have to know the identity of his father the very day he was born to be a true child of his father?

Do you know what the Bible calls "Babies in Christ"?

Answer my questions please.
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by Truthseeker10: 5:12pm On Mar 10
FxMasterz:
Would you answer my questions, or find something else to do?

Does a child have to know the identity of his father the very day he was born to be a true child of his father?

Do you know what the Bible calls "Babies in Christ"?

Answer my questions please.
So babies in Christ can believe christ is one God or one of three Gods and be saved?
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by FxMasterz(op): 5:21pm On Mar 10
Truthseeker10:
So babies in Christ can believe christ is one God or one of three Gods and be saved?
Why are you dodging the questiond? Are you afraid of answering them?

Whatever you know today, did you know them the day you got converted? Would you be saved that day if you died, even though you didn't know what you know today back then?
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by Truthseeker10: 5:22pm On Mar 10
FxMasterz:
Why are you dodging the questiond? Are you afraid of answering them?

Whatever you know today, did you know them the day you got converted? Would you be saved that day if you died, even though you didn't know what you know today back then?
According to you. After studying the Bible we can all end up in contradiction about the identity of Christ and be saved.

"Any decision you make, you'll be saved as long as it's a sincere decision based on your understanding of what you studied."
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by FxMasterz(op): 5:27pm On Mar 10
Truthseeker10:
According to you. After studying the Bible we can all end up in contradiction about the identity of Christ and be saved.

"Any decision you make, you'll be saved as long as it's a sincere decision based on your understanding of what you studied."
Would you answer my questions and stop misrepresenting me?
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by Truthseeker10: 5:30pm On Mar 10
FxMasterz:
Would you answer my questions and stop misrepresenting me?
According to you. After studying the Bible we can all end up in contradiction about the identity of Christ and be saved.

"Any decision you make, you'll be saved as long as it's a sincere decision based on your understanding of what you studied."
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by FxMasterz(op): 5:53pm On Mar 10
Truthseeker10:
According to you. After studying the Bible we can all end up in contradiction about the identity of Christ and be saved.

"Any decision you make, you'll be saved as long as it's a sincere decision based on your understanding of what you studied."
How can you end up with contradictions about the Bible when you all align with it, and are sincere about what is written?
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by Truthseeker10: 6:23pm On Mar 10
FxMasterz:
How can you end up with contradictions about the Bible when you all align with it, and are sincere about what is written?
According to your statement below, After studying the Bible we can all end up in contradiction about the identity of Christ and be saved.

"Any decision you make, you'll be saved as long as it's a sincere decision based on your understanding of what you studied."
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by FxMasterz(op): 7:25pm On Mar 10
Truthseeker10:
According to your statement below, After studying the Bible we can all end up in contradiction about the identity of Christ and be saved.

"Any decision you make, you'll be saved as long as it's a sincere decision based on your understanding of what you studied."
Should my sincere understanding of Scripture be rejected if I'm in a quest to absolutely align with the Bible?

Should I be lost in my bid to be absolutely correct with God instead of man?
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by Truthseeker10: 8:45pm On Mar 10
FxMasterz:
Should my sincere understanding of Scripture be rejected if I'm in a quest to absolutely align with the Bible?

Should I be lost in my bid to be absolutely correct with God instead of man?
You already claim to have concrete absolutely agreement with the word of God. By virtue of your statement below, You claim that others who are in contradiction with you on the identity of Christ will also be saved.

"Any decision you make, you'll be saved as long as it's a sincere decision based on your understanding of what you studied."
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