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FxMasterz:
You don't choose what to believe. You're lying against me, because I never said to choose what to believe.

That's exactly what you are saying if each person could just pick up the Bible and decide what he or she should believe without considering others who claims they are also Bible believers.
That's what led to countless religions all claiming Christians with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines!😀

Truthseeker10:
So it is God's spirit that is raping and killing people on earth. Thanks for the info.

Oríṣiríṣi!🤣

MaxInDHouse:
That's exactly what you are saying if each person could just pick up the Bible and decide what he or she should believe without considering others who claims they are also Bible believers.
That's what led to countless religions all claiming Christians with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines!😀

You are just claiming what's not.

The Bible has a voice. Everyone who is sincere will follow the voice. Jesus is our Shepherd. The true sheep will not hear the voice of a stranger. Jesus speaks through the Bible. Listen to Him alone. Except you serve a different master, you cannot sincerely study the Word, hear His voice and still have views that are considered dissenting to the Bible.

Many false prophets and teachers are in the world as prophesied. Confirm every spirit by making sure whatever they say conforms with the Bible.

You don't decide what you believe in the Bible. You only decide to believe the Bible 100%.

FxMasterz:
The Bible has a voice.
Jesus is our Shepherd.

Who are your fellow sheep?

If you can't present your fold but keep on seeing false prophets everywhere what makes you feel that you (yourself) are not a false prophet?

For your information the only evidence Jesus says we can point out to identify a false prophet is the fruit they produce {Matthew 7:15-18} meanwhile fruitless trees are also useless {Mark 11:13-14} what FRUIT is expected of a prophet?
Ọmọ it's followers, so that means your faith is worthless if there is no group of imperfect humans practicing what you believe since the result of your faith is how it is molding imperfect humans to yield to doing the will of God as a visible fold.

Ọmọ that is why Jesus organized his own disciples for everyone to see as his witnesses {Act 1:8} so if your faith has failed to present a group that's following Jesus as evidence of his good teachings it simply means you are deceiving yourself! Matthew 7:21-23

MaxInDHouse:
Who are your fellow sheep?

Everyone who hears the Voice of the One and Only Shepherd of the sheep and follows Him.

If you can't present your fold but keep on seeing false prophets everywhere what makes you feel that you (yourself) are not a false prophet?

A false prophet is someone who cannot listen to the One and Only Shepherd but chooses rather to listen to fallible men.

For your information the only evidence Jesus says we can point out to identify a false prophet is the fruit they produce {Matthew 7:15-18} meanwhile fruitless trees are also useless {Mark 11:13-14} what FRUIT is expected of a prophet?

Lies. Followers are not the fruits Jesus was talking about here.

Ọmọ it's followers, so that means your faith is worthless if there is no group of imperfect humans practicing what you believe since the result of your faith is how it is molding imperfect humans to yield to doing the will of God as a visible fold.

That means anyone who has a follower is a true prophet? 😉

The fruits of the Spirit us what Jesus was talking about as identifiers. Go and read Galatians 5.

Ọmọ that is why Jesus organized his own disciples for everyone to see as his witnesses {Act 1:8} so if your faith has failed to present a group that's following Jesus as evidence of his good teachings it simply means you are deceiving yourself! Matthew 7:21-23

There are many groups claiming to follow Jesus. Your group is just one of thousands. Are you saying you all are following Jesus because you have groups?

Can you see how illogical that sounds?

The true fruits Jesus was talking about is in character shaped by the Holy Spirit.

FxMasterz:
Everyone who hears the Voice of the One and Only Shepherd of the sheep and follows Him.

So they are DISORGANIZED shey? John 17:22🙂

FxMasterz:
A false prophet is someone who cannot listed to the One and Only Shepherd but chooses rather to listen to fallible men.

Are you challenging Jesus' own words regarding what a false prophet is? Matthew 7:15-18
Jesus never said false prophets are followers rather they gather followers who can't practice what Jesus taught! Matthew 24:11😀

FxMasterz:
The fruits of the Spirit us what Jesus was talking about as identifiers. Go and read Galatians 5.

Fruit of prophethood differ from fruit of the spirit, one could be observed in the gathering of imperfect humans as the qualities of God's spirit permeates their gathering while the fruit of a prophet is those following his teachings so at Matthew 7:15-20 Jesus is talking about people who are practicing what you are teaching!🙂

FxMasterz:
There are many groups claiming to follow Jesus. Your group is just one of thousands. Are you saying you all are following Jesus because you have group.

So mention your own so we can make comparison between yours and JWs the JWs have proved to be One just as Jesus prayed for his disciples to be {John 17:22} while the rest like you are scattered spiritually speaking making it difficult for you to identify your fellow believers! Luke 11:23🙂

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ here is the first verse:

This is what Isaiah the son of Aʹmoz saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem. Isaiah 2:1

So faithless people keep expecting God to stick to a faithless nation when Christ the only begotten Son of God said to that nation:

This is why I say to you, the Kingdom of God will be taken from you and be given to a nation producing its fruits. Matthew 21:43

And regarding Judah and Jerusalem he said:

“Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the killer of the prophets and stoner of those sent to her—how often I wanted to gather your children together the way a hen gathers her chicks under her wings! But you did not want it.  Look! Your house is abandoned to you" Matthew 23:37-38

So God has condemned that nation and chosen another nation producing the FRUIT of faith that's why i'm quoting what God promised that His loyal worshipers will produce in the end time {Isaiah 2:2-4} therefore let all faithless people know that JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ORGANIZATION is that nation that replaced that faithless nation who failed to produce expected fruit of faith!
The nation of Israel failed to produce the fruit of faith so they've been cursed so if you're still expecting them to fulfill what God promised while you are seeing another nation producing it ọmọ i'm sorry for you! Mark 11:12-14🙂

If people say you and your organization know nothing about scripture please never get angry. You people are highly ignorant. I will lecture you on this and proof that your rants are all lies

Yea the Vision was stated clearly that it's for JUDAH and JERUSALEM and in the book of Micah they wrote that it will happen at the LAST DAYS when the true Israel is already restored. God made an everlasting covenant with them and all over the bible both the new and old and it was clearly stated that Israel will be saved and restored. Moses, Joshua and all prophets wrote about the restoration of Israel. Daniel said it in Daniel 12: 1 where Micheal will appear at endtime to save them. Zachariah 12: 9 God promised to destroy every nation that will gather against them at endtime when restored. Isaiah 11:11-12 is their. Christ said he will not return untill they acknowledge him and say "blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord". In the endtime they will acknowledge him and only him will restore them. Daniel said All Israel shall be saved. Even Paul stated in Romans 11:25-26 that it was blindness that befell Israel. He says the gentiles will take over but when the blindness fell from the eyes of Israel they will acknowledge Christ and be saved . Their salvation is what will fulfill Isaiah 2 your organization claimed it's for them 🤣

Matthew 21:43. Was a prophecy that was fulfilled instantly after Christ death. The ancient prophecy was in Zachariah 14:12. After Christ death some went into exile while a few remained with the new nation that took over Jerusalem. The verse clearly said NATION not church or JW 🤣🤣🤣. You people study with children's brain. This fact alone proved you are liars. The Matthew 23:37 you quoted he said he won't return until they say what? At the last days they will acknowledge him as written by all prophets and he will return to save them. The prophecy about the restoration of Israel spans from Genesis to Revelations and it's an unbreakable covenant.

You and your organization don't know the truth. They are stealing scripture and lying they fulfill it to draw followers when kids can easily spot the criteria to fulfill such prophecies. The verse says Judah and Jerusalem. The prophecy Christ gave about them being desolate happened instantly after his death and they even know what he was saying in that verse. After his death, another nation not church or JW took over. It will remain untill he came back to restore them cos he is the Branch - Isaiah 11:11-12. He is the criteria to fulfill Isaiah 2. He must be their and then the temple rebuilt where he will rule as king and bring peace on earth. It's written in all scriptures old and new and even in apocrypha. Your organization are just deceiving you people

You have been schooled again 🤣🤣🤣

bobestman:
God made an everlasting covenant with them.

Servants of Jehovah don't brag over the wisdom He gave us but if you choose it then we will boast that we know our God accurately through His word the Bible! Jeremiah 9:24
So true followers of Christ also boast in the wisdom given to us. 2Corinthians 10:17
Now this is what our God said regarding loyalty to those who are disloyal:
‭1 Samuel 2:30 NIV‬
“Therefore the Lord, the God of Israel, declares: ‘I promised that members of your family would minister before me forever.’ But now the Lord declares: ‘Far be it from me! Those who honor me I will honor, but those who despise me will be disdained. ‭1 Samuel 2:30 NIV‬
This is why Jesus told the Israelites as in Jews that God has condemned their nation and chosen a nation producing the FRUIT expected from His loyal worshipers! Matthew 21:43; 23:37-38

Please don't give yourself BP over this because the more you ask questions the more you will see real proof as in undeniable evidence that JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ORGANIZATION has replaced the Israelites that's why we are fulfilling what God promised today! Isaiah 2:2-4🙂

MaxInDHouse:
Servants of Jehovah don't brag over the wisdom He gave us but if you choose it then we will boast that we know our God accurately through His word the Bible! Jeremiah 9:24
So true followers of Christ also boast in the wisdom given to us. 2Corinthians 10:17
Now this is what our God said regarding loyalty to those who are disloyal:
‭1 Samuel 2:30 NIV‬
“Therefore the Lord, the God of Israel, declares: ‘I promised that members of your family would minister before me forever.’ But now the Lord declares: ‘Far be it from me! Those who honor me I will honor, but those who despise me will be disdained. ‭1 Samuel 2:30 NIV‬
This is why Jesus told the Israelites as in Jews that God has condemned their nation and chosen a nation producing the FRUIT expected from His loyal worshipers! Matthew 21:43; 23:37-38

Please don't give yourself BP over this because the more you ask questions the more you will see real proof an in undeniable evidence that JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ORGANIZATION has replaced the Israelites that's why we are fulfilling what God promised today! Isaiah 2:2-4🙂

Hahaha you are saying God abandoned Israel and chosed JW and you are quoting scriptures and prophecies meant for Israel 🤣🤣🤣 no be juju and mumu be that?? 🤣, I am telling you the truth as written and prophecies but you just believing fables used to deceive you from your GB. You acting. Believing what you don't know cos you have no knowledge. Wannabe Israelites 🤣🤣. Bunch of deceived people who don't even understand what they want to thief

Now let's see who is schooling who!🙂

Can you sincerely answer this question?

Which nation or race doesn't belong to God and why?🙂

bobestman:
Hahaha you are saying God abandoned Israel and chosed JW and you are quoting scriptures and prophecies meant for Israel 🤣🤣🤣 no be juju and mumu be that?? 🤣, I am telling you the truth as written and prophecies but you just believing fables used to deceive you from your GB. You acting. Believing what you don't know cos you have no knowledge. Wannabe Israelites 🤣🤣. Bunch of deceived people who don't even understand what they want to thief

FxMasterz:
You don't choose what to believe. You're lying against me, because I never said to choose what to believe.


I said confirm the Word. Don't believe anything anyone says until you have confirmed the Word. Simple! Stop being a lie monger.

I further established that what you think about Christ is not the basis for your salvation. Rather, it's what you know and believe about what Christ did for you. Knowledge is progressive. You can't know EVERYTHING in a single day. God won't judge you on the basis if what you know today when you could o know better by tomorrow. God judges you on whether you believe what Christ did for you or not. That's all.

I just hope you'll stop spreading lies about me, the same way you do about Jesus whom you call angel Michael.

These are your words in bold below:

"Any decision you make, you'll be saved as long as it's a sincere decision based on your understanding of what you studied.

According to the above, if we both study the Bible and end up in contradiction, we will both be saved. Thank you.

MaxInDHouse:
So they are DISORGANIZED shey? John 17:22🙂

That's what the devil wants but no.

We have only one universal fold, and One universal Shepherd. We all belong to the same spiritual building and temple. And that temple is Christ.

Are you challenging Jesus' own words regarding what a false prophet is? Matthew 7:15-18
Jesus never said false prophets are followers rather they gather followers who can't practice what Jesus taught! Matthew 24:11😀

But you said the fruits Jesus was talking about is followers. Why changing mouth?

I have corrected you, so take the correction. The fruits of the Spirit in character and petinence is What Jesus was talking about.

Fruit of prophethood differ from fruit of the spirit, one could be observed in the gathering of imperfect humans as the qualities of God's spirit permeates their gathering while the fruit of a prophet is those following his teachings so at Matthew 7:15-20 Jesus is talking about people who are practicing what you are teaching!🙂

Na wá for you o.

So, it's followers that we will use to measure a prophet, and not the prophet himself? Please start reasoning maturely and escape from the JW deception.

Jesus is warning you not to follow false prophets, and He was giving you the signs you'll see in order to avoid them. The fruits they bear in words and in deeds are the yardstick. So, you need to follow a prophet first,care whether you bear good fruits before you now decide whether the prophet is false or not? Lol. You're a good comedian.

Ever before anyone follows the prophet, see the fruits he bears in word and in deed. If he doesn't resemble Jesus, don't follow him. Simple.

So mention your own so we can make comparison between yours and JWs the JWs have proved to be One just as Jesus prayed for his disciples to be {John 17:22} while the rest like you are scattered spiritually speaking making it difficult for you to identify your fellow believers! Luke 11:23🙂

You oneness is in physical gatherings to share lies and spread falsehoods. But the oneness of the Body of Christ is spiritual. The Church is one single spiritual Body encompassing all saints from the day of Pentecost till present. The Body is the one single bride for the One and only Bridegroom. The Church is the bride, and Christ is the Bridegroom .

A physical gathering is not the bod of Christ. There are thousands of such.

Truthseeker10:
These are your words in bold below:

"Any decision you make, you'll be saved as long as it's a sincere decision based on your understanding of what you studied.

According to the above, if we both study the Bible and end up in contradiction, we will both be saved. Thank you.

Can you tell me how you'll end up in contradictions if you sincerely study and understand?

FxMasterz:
Can you tell me how you'll end up in contradictions if you sincerely study and understand?

You claim to have absolute agreement with the word of God. You've taught us here that the father son and holy spirit is one person. Yet, you still claim that you may be in error. Which means that others who claim that God is three persons may be right. Yet you claim that any decision an individual make after studying the bible will get them saved. How does this make any sense to you?

MaxInDHouse:
Now let's see who is schooling who!🙂

Can you sincerely answer this question?

Which nation or race doesn't belong to God and why?🙂

You are the one learning man. You are just believing lies your GB and founders told you. Things written when your generation and theirs aren't there. Things specially directed to the chosen people. Written about them in all scriptures old , new and Apocrypha. But jw just wake up one day, pick one verse from bible they don't understand and begin to say they are now the people 🤣🤣🤣

You know the answer to your question. But let me ask do you now agree it's a NATION not JW? Cos your people want to steal what belong to a nation and credit to JW not equal to a nation or race. Let me define a nation for better understanding

"A nation is a large group of people who share a common identity, often based on elements like language, culture, history, ethnicity, territory, or political bonds. It can refer to a country (a sovereign state) or a distinct cultural/political community"

A nation is based on language, ethnicity culture, territory etc as written above. Do JW have all that? It's just an org or church. So you can see clearly that the verse all over the scripture is specifically referring to Israel. And all scriptures talk about their restoration at endtime. So to fulfill Isaiah 2 Isreal must be restored as a Nation which was clearly written in Isaiah 11:11-12🤣🤣

To answer your question. God is the God of all flesh but he specifically chosed Israel as his people and it's written all over your bible from Genesis to Revelations. Guy this people has brainwashed you people with lies. You already know the truth but can't help yourself cos you don't want to be seen as going against JW rules Dem use hold you

bobestman:
To answer your question. God is the God of all flesh but he specifically chosed Israel.

Is there any clause added to the choice of Israel?
Did Israelite keep their part of the covenant?

Here is what you need to know about the covenant God made with the nation of Israel:

Now if you will strictly obey my voice and keep my covenant, you will certainly become my special property out of all peoples, for the whole earth belongs to me. Exodus 19:5

Did the Israelites keep their own part of the covenant?

It will not be like the covenant that I made with their forefathers on the day I took hold of their hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, ‘my covenant that they broke, although I was their true master,’ declares Jehovah. Jeremiah 31:32

God also warned that if they fail to do what the Messiah will tell them then He will condemned them. Deuteronomy 18:18-19

Did the Israelites treat the Messiah with respect?

Of course not! They condemned him to a horrible execution and said his blood should come upon them and upon their children upon children! Matthew 27:25

Well Jesus said God has condemned that nation for maltreatment of God's prophets and killing the Messiah! Matthew 21:43; 23:37-38

So the nation God chose will be able to fulfill God's will throughout the earth and that is exactly what JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are doing globally today! Isaiah 2:2-4🙂

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Truthseeker10:
So it is God's spirit that is raping and killing people on earth. Thanks for the info.

Man is God's spirit dwelling within a physical body made from dust.
we are all God's spirit experiencing life in multiple ways.
Because most of us hs lost and forgotten who we really are, we have resorted to all kinds of evil against our fellow men. so sad.

Gabrielshow24:
😂😂😂
Fantabulous!

man is God's spirit dwelling within a physical body made from dust. we are all God's spirit dwelling within a body and having different experiences ..some experiences are bad and some are good. because God has given us the gift of choice. some people choose to oppress others because they have forgotten who they really are.....so sad

sonmvayina:
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Man is God's spirit dwelling within a physical body made from dust.
we are all God's spirit experiencing life in multiple ways.
Because most of us hs lost and forgotten who we really are, we have resorted to all kinds of evil against our fellow men. so sad.

Oga i have heard you na. God's spirit is the one killing and raping people. Thank you.

Truthseeker10:
Oga i have heard you na. God's spirit is the one killing and raping people. Thank you.

please just watch it.....

https://www.facebook.com/reel/4429675633935299/?mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6v

sonmvayina:
please just watch it.....

https://www.facebook.com/reel/4429675633935299/?mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6v

I have heard you. I don't need to watch anything else. Thank you. If you quote me again I will block you.

Truthseeker10:
You claim to have absolute agreement with the word of God. You've taught us here that the father son and holy spirit is one person. Yet, you still claim that you may be in error.

Because I'm not the standard. The Bible is.

If I'm in error, correct me with superior Biblical expositions. Up till now, no one on this platform or anywhere has been able to pick out any error in my position, including you.

Which means that others who claim that God is three persons may be right. Yet you claim that any decision an individual make after studying the bible will get them saved. How does this make any sense to you?

Because, what you learn. Is use a bit of all that there is. Since knowledge is infinite, God does not expect you to have all knowledge. Your ignorance of knowledge won't take you to hell. Knowledge is not a prerequisite for making heaven. Lack of knowledge can only limit your manifestation as a son of God on earth. You won't be able to enjoy the full benefits of HIIT sonship.

Children have different views of their father. Their views don't make them less his sons. A son may not know his father is an engineer. Does that make him less the son of the man? Think, these JWs.

The only thing that makes you lose heaven is when you reject the death and resurrection of Christ for you, and reject His Lordship over your life. There'll be problems if a child rejects his father and the authority of the father over him.

John 3:17 says, does who reject Christ are condemned already, "because they did not believe in the Only Begotten Son of God .'

Truthseeker10:
I have heard you. I don't need to watch anything else. Thank you. If you quote me again I will block you.

then you really dont want to learn. well it's up to you.

FxMasterz:
Because I'm not the standard. The Bible is.

If I'm in error, correct me with superior Biblical expositions. Up till now, no one on this platform or anywhere has been able to pick out any error in my position, including you.



Because, what you learn. Is use a bit of all that there is. Since knowledge is infinite, God does not expect you to have all knowledge. Your ignorance of knowledge won't take you to hell. Knowledge is not a prerequisite for making heaven. Lack of knowledge can only limit your manifestation as a son of God on earth. You won't be able to enjoy the full benefits of HIIT sonship.

Children have different views of their father. Their views don't make them less his sons. A son may not know his father is an engineer. Does that make him less the son of the man? Think these JWs.

The only thing that makes you lose heaven is when you reject the death and resurrection of Christ for you, and reject His Lordship over your life. There'll be problems if a child rejects his father and the authority of the father over him.

John 3:17 says, does who reject Christ are condemned already, "because they did not believe in the Only Begotten Son of God .'

So if you are not in error, according to you, those who read the Bible and come up with erratic understanding will also be saved. Thank you.

Truthseeker10:
So if you are not in error, according to you, those who read the Bible and come up with erratic understanding will also be saved. Thank you.

Tell me why they won't be saved after believing that Jesus died and rose for their sins, and they absolutely depend on Him for their salvation, and are walking with Him as sincerely as they could?

Even Paul in Roman 10 said "Israel has a zeal for God but not according to knowledge." Yet, he went to further assert that "Israel shall be saved". Even in spite of their ignorance. Knowledge is not a requirement for salvation.

What makes you sure of all these when you aren't worshiping with them neither do you know exactly what they are practicing as faith?🤔

FxMasterz:
Tell me why they won't be saved after

*believing that Jesus died and rose for their sins, and

*they absolutely depend on Him for their salvation, and are


*walking with Him as sincerely as they could?

MaxInDHouse:
What makes you sure of all these when you aren't worshiping with them neither do you know exactly what they are practicing as faith?🤔

Good question. The first time I hear a JW asking a very good question.


But the question is already answered in the response you quoted

They're serving God sincerely. They believe in Jesus' death and resurrection. They Lord Jesus is their Lord, and they walk with Him obediently.

God is not moved by actions. Leave that for man. God is moved by intents. The heart.

Just "...believe in the Lord Jesus, and you shall be saved." That's the Scripture.

FxMasterz:
They're serving God sincerely.
They believe in Jesus' death and resurrection.
The Lord Jesus is their Lord, and they walk with Him obediently.

Please explain what Jesus is saying here:

‘This people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far removed from me. It is in vain that they keep worshipping me, for they teach commands of men as doctrines.' Matthew 15:8-9

So you think it's possible to be sincere yet doing the wrong thing?🤔

FxMasterz:
Tell me why they won't be saved after believing that Jesus died and rose for their sins, and they absolutely depend on Him for their salvation, and are walking with Him as sincerely as they could?

Even Paul in Roman 10 said "Israel has a zeal for God but not according to knowledge." Yet, he went to further assert that "Israel shall be saved". Even in spite of their ignorance. Knowledge is not a requirement for salvation.

1)So I can be in contradiction with you who claims not to be in error and be saved. Thank you.

2)What knowledge did Isreal lack?

3)If knowledge is not a requirement for salvation, explain John 17:3 below.

King James Bible
And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

MaxInDHouse:
The truth is each of you wants to stand on his personal resolution after you've read the Bible that is what led to many teachers contradicting themselves.
God is not wicked so He warned us not to really on our own understanding {Proverbs 3:5} but to study with others before concluding on what the scripture is teaching. Act 8:31
God is not for disorder {1Corinthans 14:33} that is why Jesus prayed that we have the same line of thought {John 17:22} that can't be possible if everyone wants to be his own personal teacher of God's word.
So there are two qualities that will help us:

HUMILITY and RIGHTEOUSNESS! Zephaniah 2:2-3

Humility in the sense that we should be willing to yield as we see our fellow believers agree upon the interpretation of scriptures when their interpretation is producing fine fruit but when we insist that God must talk to each of us personally then humility is no longer their because that means there shouldn't be teachers among Christians after all everyone can learn from God directly.
Now this how God will judge such individuals:
If you're not willing to be boy boy for anyone it's OK but then you shouldn't expect anyone to be boy boy under you, you should welcome everyone as independent teachers of God's word who don't need you to teach them but once you disagree with that idea then what you are judging them for will come back to you! Matthew 7:1-4

The only human whose teacher we can not see is Jesus but he keeps telling us that there is someone who is teaching him so all glory and honor goes to that person. John 5:30

It's Satan who doesn't want to be boy boy for anyone not even for his Creator that's why Jesus said Satan fabricates everything by himself as his own teacher {John 8:44} but he has many followers having the same attitude like him they are never ready to be boy boy for anyone yet they want others to be their boy boy!🙂

Jesus did make a parable of the blind leading the blind, I think that best describes the Jehovah's witness and the GB.
dont you think?