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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 3:57pm On Mar 12
budaatum:
You want to subject everyone to the same standard now, despite evidence you never did?

Is that not like claiming everyone can equally rise to the top, after you remove the ladder (laws, ideologies, advantages) by which you rose?
Evidence are plenty people like Obama, Ben Carson, Clarence Thomas, Condoleeza Rice etc all rose to the pinnacle of their careers by being the best and not propped up

Everyone can rise to the top when you give them the same opportunities as everyone
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 4:00pm On Mar 12
raumdeuter:
A business is to make profit, A business is not political. Its to make profit. Yu are more likely to be successful when you choose the best people

When a business decides not to choose the best people they are likely to fail

When a business decides not to select the best people they will get the results on the balance sheet at the end of the year

Sport is a great example, Teams pick only the best people to represent them and shop anywhere all over the world for the best talent, If you choose to not pick the best or you use sentiments of coachs child or nephew, you will get your results by end of the season
So a government is only political and so its goal is not to pick the best people to do the best job?
Do you think there is only one best employee for every job? And given the current makeup of the business world that person is mostly white?
Ur argument is so muddled and seems to come from a place of deep insecurity.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 4:06pm On Mar 12
IjeBos:
So a government is only political and so its goal is not to pick the best people to do the best job?
Do you think there is only one best employee for every job? And given the current makeup of the business world that person is mostly white?
Ur argument is so muddled and seems to come from a place of deep insecurity.
There is one person among those interested who is likely better than others. And work within the environment, A business based in Boston will only pick the best from Boston area and wont even look at someone from Idaho
The current business setup that is mostly white, they want to make money and profit, Profit and success doesn't care about bias or emotions. All NBA owners are mostly white, why are they not filling their teams with white guys?

You seem to believe unless they have a thumb on the scale for you, there is no way for you to be successful, That is deep inferiority complex
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 4:08pm On Mar 12
raumdeuter:
Evidence are plenty people like Obama, Ben Carson, Clarence Thomas, Condoleeza Rice etc all rose to the pinnacle of their careers by being the best and not propped up

Everyone can rise to the top when you give them the same opportunities as everyone
Rice got her fellowship at Stanford due to a Stanford Strategy that took Affirmative Action into account.

Your arguments dissected with facts included always seen to counter whatever point you are trying to make.
You should really research the things you speak about.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2003/01/18/rice-race-can-be-factor-in-college-admissions/671a0e65-1551-4d2b-80a1-3da1f3c0d11b/

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 4:10pm On Mar 12
raumdeuter:
There is one person among those interested who is likely better than others. And work within the environment, A business based in Boston will only pick the best from Boston area and wont even look at someone from Idaho
The current business setup that is mostly white, they want to make money and profit, Profit and success doesn't care about bias or emotions. All NBA owners are mostly white, why are they not filling their teams with white guys?

You seem to believe unless they have a thumb on the scale for you, there is no way for you to be successful, That is deep inferiority complex
Yes, speaking to the guy who went to some of the best and most Competitive schools in the world.
Oga, go rest and focus on this deep insecurity you have that makes you dislike your own skin.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 4:12pm On Mar 12
raumdeuter:
Evidence are plenty people like Obama, Ben Carson, Clarence Thomas, Condoleeza Rice etc all rose to the pinnacle of their careers by being the best and not propped up

Everyone can rise to the top when you give them the same opportunities as everyone
Raumdeuter: Condoleezza Rice rose to the pinnacle of her career by being the best and not propped up

Condoleezza Rice: I got help through Affirmative Action.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 4:12pm On Mar 12
basilico:
Blacks are smart enough to be top neurosurgeons .
He believes a black man can only be a top neurosurgeon if you are helped with a quota, which leads to people starting to wonder if this Neuro is really the smartest Medical student or a quota fill which ends up being a great disservice to people who actually worked their butts off to get those positions
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 4:14pm On Mar 12
IjeBos:
Yes, speaking to the guy who went to some of the best and most Competitive schools in the world.
Oga, go rest and focus on this deep insecurity you have that makes you dislike your own skin.
Oh I get its a touchy subject for you cos you know you probably didn't get the required marks to be where you would like to be and look fr people to put their thumb on a scale for you
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 4:16pm On Mar 12
IjeBos:
Rice got her fellowship at Stanford due to a Stanford Strategy that took Affirmative Action into account.

Your arguments dissected with facts included always seen to counter whatever point you are trying to make.
You should really research the things you speak about.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2003/01/18/rice-race-can-be-factor-in-college-admissions/671a0e65-1551-4d2b-80a1-3da1f3c0d11b/
Rice said talented people should be looked for everywhere they can find them and oppose affirmative actions that is quota based

which means go to every zip code to find the talents look outside your regular channels to find people but ensure its not to fill a certain quota
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 4:24pm On Mar 12
"Ensure you Look at and consider every state, every zip code when choosing the best that meet your standards"

which is different from

"you must pick representative from every state, every zip code even if they don't meet your standard and you have to lower to accommodate them"
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GracieX3(f): 4:30pm On Mar 12
raumdeuter:
Brig the full video and listen to it to make your own opinion
I've watched the full video. Charlie Kirk is a racist
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 4:40pm On Mar 12
GracieX3:
I've watched the full video. Charlie Kirk is a racist
Paste the full video here and tell which part he said that was racist
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 5:08pm On Mar 12
DeepSight:
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His husband?

grin grin grin

You subscribe to the big mike theory

grin
Calm down, it's a joke
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 5:23pm On Mar 12
DeepSight:
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You actually said Trump didnt post the Obamas as apes. If that can proceed from you, what is the point having any discussion with you? Next thing you will tell me to prove the Earth is not flat or some other such gibberish.
You don't know nuance when you see it. The video itself is not even racist.

Focus on Joe Biden n Gavin Newsom and other democrats.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GracieX3(f): 5:34pm On Mar 12
benalvino3:
You don't know nuance when you see it. The video itself is not even racist.

Focus on Joe Biden n Gavin Newsom and other democrats.
Is it racist to post black people in America as monkeys, given the historical context?

Yes!!!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 6:03pm On Mar 12
GracieX3:
Is it racist to post black people in America as monkeys, given the historical context?

Yes!!!
Biden was a mon key, Whoopie was not, Hakim Jeffries is black and he is not a mon key, etc.

You cannot argue with facts. Both whites n blacks were depicted as mon key, both whites and blacks are depicted as other animals.

You cannot argue with that.

You cannot pinpoint the motive of the maker of the video.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 6:04pm On Mar 12
raumdeuter:
Paste the full video here and tell which part he said that was racist
They cannot. They don't even know Charlie Kirk till he was killed.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 6:55pm On Mar 12
That’s to tell you the depth of vacuousness of these inbreds
DeepSight:
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His husband?

grin grin grin

You subscribe to the big mike theory

grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 6:57pm On Mar 12
I love seeing sensible black men. Much respect

Not these embarrassing ones

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 7:16pm On Mar 12
raumdeuter:
Rice said talented people should be looked for everywhere they can find them and oppose affirmative actions that is quota based

which means go to every zip code to find the talents look outside your regular channels to find people but ensure its not to fill a certain quota
Your argument was predicated on the fact that Rice succeeded all on her own without any help.
raumdeuter:
Evidence are plenty people like Obama, Ben Carson, Clarence Thomas, Condoleeza Rice etc all rose to the pinnacle of their careers by being the best and not propped up
Everyone can rise to the top when you give them the same opportunities as everyone

That is wrong. Rice was a product of Affirmative Action at Princeton which helped her get her fellowship.

Most other people presented with that incongruent information would challenge their premise.
Maybe they would ask, hmm, why did someone that you say is as Brilliant as Rice need Affirmative Action to get a slot for a fellowship at Princeton.
And them maybe consider, that if she didn't get that slot, would she have still made the contributions that she did?
And then maybe have the ah ha moment that maybe it's not about ability but giving an opportunity.

But, no, you still march on as if your argument hadn't been destroyed.
Because your views aren't about facts or reality, just dogma.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 7:30pm On Mar 12
IjeBos:
Your argument was predicated on the fact that Rice succeeded all on her own without any help.
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That is wrong. Rice was a product of Affirmative Action at Princeton which helped her get her fellowship.

Most other people presented with that incongruent information would challenge their premise.
Maybe they would ask, hmm, why did someone that you say is as Brilliant as Rice need Affirmative Action to get a slot for a fellowship at Princeton.
And them maybe consider, that if she didn't get that slot, would she have still made the contributions that she did?
And then maybe have the ah ha moment that maybe it's not about ability but giving an opportunity.

But, no, you still march on as if your argument hadn't been destroyed.
Because your views aren't about facts or reality, just dogma.
Rice succeeded not because she was picked to satisfy a quota, rather she had that talent which was superior to most and fit Stanford. When Stanford reached out to demographics they dont normally look at, the found Rice

Its very simple, Its like going to a mall and you only check 3 stalls, when you check all the 20 stalls you have a varied opinion and are able to pick better people

Same thing happened in the NBA, Say Celtics in the 50s were picking only white guys from New England, It wasn't that the black guys were not as good but they had a blindside to the non whites, Over time they started looking at other groups they discovered that there were better players outside their current catchment and they became better. Now teams in the NBA are reaching out globally looking every corner of the world to see where talents are, Now they are bringing Doncic, Wemby, Giannis, Jokic and are better than when they limited to a certain demography or a certain country

Everyone talented enough can rise to the top when you give them the same opportunities as everyone
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 7:38pm On Mar 12
cococandy:
I love seeing sensible black men. Much respect

Not these embarrassing ones
Sexy as hell.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 7:55pm On Mar 12
Maeve7:
Sexy as hell.
Absolutely

Imagine being with a man who think the kids you have together are less than their white counterparts and inadvertently raises them to have low self esteem.

Yuck.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 8:10pm On Mar 12
raumdeuter:
Rice succeeded not because she was picked to satisfy a quota, rather she had that talent which was superior to most and fit Stanford. When Stanford reached out to demographics they dont normally look at, the found Rice

Its very simple, Its like going to a mall and you only check 3 stalls, when you check all the 20 stalls you have a varied opinion and are able to pick better people

Same thing happened in the NBA, Say Celtics in the 50s were picking only white guys from New England, It wasn't that the black guys were not as good but they had a blindside to the non whites, Over time they started looking at other groups they discovered that there were better players outside their current catchment and they became better. Now teams in the NBA are reaching out globally looking every corner of the world to see where talents are, Now they are bringing Doncic, Wemby, Giannis, Jokic and are better than when they limited to a certain demography or a certain country

Everyone talented enough can rise to the top when you give them the same opportunities as everyone
IjeBos is innately a v1ct1m

You go explain tire 😂
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Stolen: 8:14pm On Mar 12
FUNNY ENOUGH, HE WAS NOT TALKING ABOUT BIDEN FORCING AFRICA COUNTRIES LIKE UGANDA AND GHANA TO LEGAL RECTUM DEMOLITION.



THAT WAS FINE BUT HOLD MURDERERS TO ACCOUNT FOR CRIMES AND NOW HE IS EMBARRASED

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 8:19pm On Mar 12
Stolen:
FUNNY ENOUGH, HE WAS NOT TALKING ABOUT BIDEN FORCING AFRICA COUNTRIES LIKE UGANDA AND GHANA TO LEGAL RECTUM DEMOLITION.



THAT WAS FINE BUT HOLD MURDERERS TO ACCOUNT FOR CRIMES AND NOW HE IS EMBARRASED
The world is full of actors, fake people.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Stolen: 8:29pm On Mar 12
benalvino3:
The world is full of actors, fake people.

[/quote[quote author=benalvino3 post=138750763]The world is full of actors, fake people.
AS SOON AS IRAN SPONSORED TERRORIST ATTACKED ISRAEL, AND THEY ARE HELD TO ACCOUNT, HE IS NOW PHILOSOPHICAL.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 8:42pm On Mar 12
cococandy:
Absolutely

Imagine being with a man who think the kids you have together are less than their white counterparts and inadvertently raises them to have low self esteem.

Yuck.
Or teaches them to follow their lowest instincts.

God forbid.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 8:46pm On Mar 12
basilico:
Obrigardo feedthenation bayelsaowei

Epstein accountant reveals to House committee that Trump had no financial dealings at all with Epstein.

lol.. defender of Trump.

You’ll get tired soon supporting a vile maniac.

Except maybe you want to end up like him.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 8:49pm On Mar 12
Suddenly the shameless man doesn’t know anything about the bombing of a girls school.

😃😃.. evidence is now right in front of him. The only move is to completely deny he ever knew about it, even though days ago he said it was Iran.

See person wey people Dey follow.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 9:04pm On Mar 12
Democrats are also harming Nigeria. Buhari was a democrat, and Tinubu is a steadfast democrat. All Nigerian political parties are democrats.

Their tentacles even extend from the US.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 9:18pm On Mar 12
bayelsaowei:
Suddenly the shameless man doesn’t know anything about the bombing of a girls school.

😃😃.. evidence is now right in front of him. The only move is to completely deny he ever knew about it, even though days ago he said it was Iran.

See person wey people Dey follow.
He doesn’t know anything about the school or that he had Iran bombed? It could be one or the other.
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