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Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:02pm On Mar 14
sonmvayina:
Jesus did make a parable
Fictional Character you mean?🤣
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by sonmvayina(m): 4:20pm On Mar 14
MaxInDHouse:
Fictional Character you mean?🤣
yea, I reat a lot.
I have quoted Thor, Thanos and spider man on this forum before....you clearly understood what I meant....The authors of the story are very entertaining and educated. They know what to what to make their characters say and do.....end of the day, it is just a theological fiction.
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:23pm On Mar 14
So you chose to learn from fictional characters but i only learn from real people because real people lived by the things they teach while fictional characters can't!🤣
sonmvayina:
yea, I reat a lot.
I have quoted Thor, Thanos and spider man on this forum before....you clearly understood what I meant....The authors of the story are very entertaining and educated. They know what to what to make their characters say and do.....end of the day, it is just a theological fiction.
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by sonmvayina(m): 5:25pm On Mar 14
MaxInDHouse:
So you chose to learn from fictional characters but i only learn from real people because real people lived by the things they teach while fictional characters can't!🤣
apart from the Bible and Quran,which other literature have you read.....hmm you amaze me sometimes.
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:33pm On Mar 14
sonmvayina:
Which other literature have you read..
Literature has nothing to do with my life God's word has everything to do with me so if it's literatures that determines what you will do with your life ọmọ that's you not me!🙂
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by bobestman(m): 5:50pm On Mar 14
sonmvayina:
Jesus did make a parable of the blind leading the blind, I think that best describes the Jehovah's witness and the GB.
dont you think?
Exactly
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:02pm On Mar 14
Too many Gods jàre.
Each person has chosen to be his or her own God but at the same time each of them still want to project his or her opinion on others after claiming they are their own Gods and everyone could choose to be the same i wonder why they are worried regarding what others choose to do with their God!🤣
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by sonmvayina(m): 6:25pm On Mar 14
MaxInDHouse:
Literature has nothing to do with my life God's word has everything to do with me so if it's literatures that determines what you will do with your life ọmọ that's you not me!🙂
But you have proved that you do not know anything in that book, you pick and choose which passage to believe and most of not all the time you quote passages out of context and when I question you, all you do is "provide a better performing group as if that is the koko.
you really need to unlearn and relearn. you are definitely on the broad road leading to destruction....
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by sonmvayina(m): 6:28pm On Mar 14
MaxInDHouse:
Too many Gods jàre.
Each person has chosen to be his or her own God but at the same time each of them still want to project his or her opinion on others after claiming they are their own Gods and everyone could choose to be the same i wonder why they are worried regarding what others choose to do with their God!🤣
GOD is the universal divine consciousness....

I won't say it again. we are all part of it and it is part of us...
There is no Jehovah's witness god anywhere, it is the poor interpretation of the scriptures by your GB that lead to all these ignorance.

waake up
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by sonmvayina(m): 6:29pm On Mar 14
MaxInDHouse:
Literature has nothing to do with my life God's word has everything to do with me so if it's literatures that determines what you will do with your life ọmọ that's you not me!🙂
Little Wonder.......Now is is perfectly clear as day.
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:29pm On Mar 14
sonmvayina:
he is our resident lunner atic...you will do well to ignore him.
So try to ignore me!🤣

sonmvayina:
But you have proved that you do not know anything in that book, you pick and choose which passage to believe and most of not all the time you quote passages out of context and when I question you, all you do is "provide a better performing group as if that is the koko.
you really need to unlearn and relearn. you are definitely on the broad road leading to destruction....
sonmvayina:
GOD is the universal divine consciousness....
I won't say it again. we are all part of it and it is part of us...
There is no Jehovah's witness god anywhere, it is the poor interpretation of the scriptures by your GB that lead to all these ignorance.
waake up
sonmvayina:
Little Wonder.......Now is is perfectly clear as day.
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by bobestman(m):
MaxInDHouse:
Is there any clause added to the choice of Israel?
Did Israelite keep their part of the covenant?

Here is what you need to know about the covenant God made with the nation of Israel:

Now if you will strictly obey my voice and keep my covenant, you will certainly become my special property out of all peoples, for the whole earth belongs to me. Exodus 19:5

Did the Israelites keep their own part of the covenant?

It will not be like the covenant that I made with their forefathers on the day I took hold of their hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, ‘my covenant that they broke, although I was their true master,’ declares Jehovah. Jeremiah 31:32

God also warned that if they fail to do what the Messiah will tell them then He will condemned them. Deuteronomy 18:18-19

Did the Israelites treat the Messiah with respect?

Of course not! They condemned him to a horrible execution and said his blood should come upon them and upon their children upon children! Matthew 27:25

Well Jesus said God has condemned that nation for maltreatment of God's prophets and killing the Messiah! Matthew 21:43; 23:37-38

So the nation God chose will be able to fulfill God's will throughout the earth and that is exactly what JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are doing globally today! Isaiah 2:2-4🙂
Your problems are the brainwashing JW did to you. Many things you try to argue if you look deeply you are the one wrong

You asked if Isreal kept the covenant? What you quoted is a prophecy from the old testament. Obeying covenant or rules is not something everyone does. Their must be rebels. Yes some kept it and few didn't. That is how this things work. If you know who God is he never work with the crowd but a FEW. In Sodom and Gomorrah only Abraham and Lot household was those he used. In the time of Noah he only used him and his household. He only work with those who kept it. Their are many Christians who commit sins. Will God abandoned all Christians cos many of them sinned? All the JW I have met and lived with are wicked and evil people. Will God abandoned all JW cos their are many who sinned their? What you lack is knowledge and understanding of scripture and God warned that you will perish for lack of knowledge and identity theft when everything is simple in the bible. The problem here is that writers only use Isreal when some people sinned instead of saying some sinned they will say Isreal sinned. Aren't Christians sinning. Have they not done worst than Isreal today? Will God abandone all Christians cos some of them sinned? If he can't then he can't abandoned those he chosed cos of their sins too. Understanding is your problem

Deuteronomy 18:18-19
Stop lying bro. Am not a kid. I understand and can see what your GB who lied to you people can't see. The verse clearly said God will punish those who disobeyed the servant he will send not that he will condem them all. It is obvious that you guys twist scripture to deceive the gullible to remain relevant in conversations. The messiah came to save his people but will save those of them who believed and others who might not be from them but believed in him

You said they didn't treat the messiah with respect or obeyed him? But he chosed his 12 disciples from each tribe of Israel. Them and their household also believed. So they respected him and obeyed him. What you lack is knowledge of knowing that in everything their are always some FOR and some who will be AGAINST. Those against him are those who connived with Romans to kill him. He came to save anyone who believed. So it's some Isrealites who hate him and gentiles too that disobeyed and killed him. Your JW lies can't work on me I will rather help you learn and see what you can't see

Did the curse also come on all his disciples who believed? Are they not Isrealites. You people lack knowledge to rightly divide the word. You are all cursed for twisting the word and adding to it what you don't know

The problem of you people is misinformation and lack of knowledge. You people were deceived cos you can't read to understand simple things yourself
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:53pm On Mar 14
bobestman:
Their must be rebels.
So when God said:

It will not be like the covenant that I made with their forefathers on the day I took hold of their hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, ‘my covenant that they broke, although I was their true master,’ declares Jehovah. Jeremiah 31:32

Was there no one among their ancestors who kept God's covenant?🙂

Ọmọ few did yet God said their ancestors broke His covenant.

So your explanation failed because few back then also kept God's covenant back in the days God brought them out of Egypt!🙂
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by FxMasterz(op): 8:06pm On Mar 14
Truthseeker10:
1)So I can be in contradiction with you who claims not to be in error and be saved. Thank you.

2)What knowledge did Isreal lack?
You should ask apostle Paul. I wasn't the one who said they lacked knowledge.

3)If knowledge is not a requirement for salvation, explain John 17:3 below.

King James Bible
And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
Knowledge of the Only true God. Knowing Yahweh as the ONLY true God and knowing that He sent Jesus for your salvation, and believing in what He did for you. That is Life Eternal.

I don't know why you're finding it difficult to grasp this simple truth.
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by FxMasterz(op): 8:07pm On Mar 14
MaxInDHouse:
Please explain what Jesus is saying here:

This people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far removed from me. It is in vain that they keep worshipping me, for they teach commands of men as doctrines.' Matthew 15:8-9

So you think it's possible to be sincere yet doing the wrong thing?🤔
Did you see any sincerity in anyone who honours God with His lips and his heart is fat from Him? Is there any sincerity in that, or you don't understand the Scripture you quoted?
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by bobestman(m): 8:14pm On Mar 14
MaxInDHouse:
So when God said:

It will not be like the covenant that I made with their forefathers on the day I took hold of their hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, ‘my covenant that they broke, although I was their true master,’ declares Jehovah. Jeremiah 31:32

Was there no one among their ancestors who kept God's covenant?🙂

Ọmọ few did yet God said their ancestors broke His covenant.

So your explanation failed because few back then also kept God's covenant back in the days God brought them out of Egypt!🙂
Another dumb question. Jeremiah is who and from where? Their is always a FEW that God Always work with. That is the work of writers. They always use Isreal to represent those who sinned

Many JWs are evil. Will God condemned all JW for the wickedness of the FEW? If people want to write it won't they say JWs are evil people cos of the evils of some? Or Christians are evil cos of some fake pastors? All Igbos like money cos they saw some who like money? The problem of you people is understanding. You want to steal want belong to others when you don't even understand the book. It was clearly written that he will only condemn those who sinned and use those who do right. You people are LIARS. God had always used a FEW since the world began. Everything he wrote was for Isreal. Don't bring God's wrath on yourself cos of twisting and manipulation and cos you want to rep Gods people on earth. You guys lack knowledge
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:16pm On Mar 14
FxMasterz:
Did you see any sincerity in anyone who honours God with His lips and his heart is fat from Him? Is there any sincerity in that, or you don't understand the Scripture you quoted?
Was Paul insincere when he was killing Christians?
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:19pm On Mar 14
bobestman:
Jeremiah is who and from where? Their is always a FEW that God Always work with.
Did Jeremiah's faith saved Judah when God's wrath came upon the nation and her temple?🙂

bobestman:
Many JWs are evil. Will God condemned all JW for the wickedness of the FEW?
Are we talking about the few who aren't relevant or majority controlling the affairs of the nation?

Are the evil FEW in control of JW organization?🙂
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by bobestman(m): 8:26pm On Mar 14
MaxInDHouse:
Did Jeremiah's faith saved Judah when God's wrath came upon the nation and her temple?🙂
Did Abraham save Sodom and Gomorrah with all his intercession? God only work with the FEw he want not the Crowd. These things are end of a certain age. When the age is ripe their will be a destruction by flood or water. A FEW is left. MANY are destroyed. You people are too small
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by Truthseeker10:
[quote author=FxMasterz post=138770322]You should ask apostle Paul. I wasn't the one who said they lacked knowledge.
Conman response.



Knowledge of the Only true God. Knowing Yahweh as the ONLY true God and knowing that He sent Jesus for your salvation, and believing in what He did for you. That is Life Eternal.

I don't know why you're finding it difficult to grasp this simple truth.
1)So how many persons does the verse tell us to know to be saved? Please don't twist the verse.

And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

2)Below is your statement.

"God judges you on whether you believe what Christ did for you or not. That's all."


Does John 17:3 support your statement above in bold?
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:46pm On Mar 14
bobestman:
Did Abraham save Sodom and Gomorrah with all his intercession? God only work with the FEw he want not the Crowd. These things are end of a certain age. When the age is ripe their will be a destruction by flood or water. A FEW is left. MANY are destroyed. You people are too small
God destroyed all living creatures on dry land but saved Noah his family and few animals in the Ark.

God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah but saved Lot and his two daughters.

God destroyed Jericho but saved Rahab and her household.

So likewise God will destroy all the inhabitants of planet earth but saved only those whose names has been written in the book of life {Revelation 20:15} how can your name be written in the book of life?

Malachi answered:

At that time those who fear Jehovah spoke with one another, each one with his companion, and Jehovah kept paying attention and listening. And a book of remembrance was written before him for those fearing Jehovah and for those meditating on his name. Malachi 3:16

That is what Jesus came to establish as the preaching and teaching program that Jehovah's Witnesses are carrying out throughout the globe today {Matthew 28:19-20; Act 1:8} so whoever is not studying the Bible with this group who are helping their neighbors to erase hatred, producing, buying, selling and using of weapons from their hearts of is doomed! Isaiah 2:2-4🙂
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by bobestman(m): 4:17pm On Mar 15
MaxInDHouse:
God destroyed all living creatures on dry land but saved Noah his family and few animals in the Ark.

God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah but saved Lot and his two daughters.

God destroyed Jericho but saved Rahab and her household.

So likewise God will destroy all the inhabitants of planet earth but saved only those whose names has been written in the book of life {Revelation 20:15} how can your name be written in the book of life?

Malachi answered:

At that time those who fear Jehovah spoke with one another, each one with his companion, and Jehovah kept paying attention and listening. And a book of remembrance was written before him for those fearing Jehovah and for those meditating on his name. Malachi 3:16

That is what Jesus came to establish as the preaching and teaching program that Jehovah's Witnesses are carrying out throughout the globe today {Matthew 28:19-20; Act 1:8} so whoever is not studying the Bible with this group who are helping their neighbors to erase hatred, producing, buying, selling and using of weapons from their hearts of is doomed! Isaiah 2:2-4🙂
You are just a scriptural olodo. You just thief verses you have no knowledge and attach JW to them

You have knowledge you will know that you are saying nothing other than what I have been teaching. You were arguing that God abandoned Isreal cos you lack knowledge to comprehend bible. I was telling you God always use the FEW who remain and do right. In all my example you saw God uses the FEW who do right instead of abandoning the whole. You said he abandoned Isreal but all the disciples were Isreal including Paul. How then did God abandoned Isreal when their are FEW remnants? God always use the FEW who do right to continue his covenant like he had been doing since the time of old. THE DISCIPLES WERE ISREAL SO I T WAS THOSE WHO DID WRONG THAT WERE ABANDONED. I put it capital letters to make it clear in your eyes

You have now jump those whose name are found in the the book of remembrance 🤣🤣. I taught it should be only JWs name that are supposed to be found in the book 🤣🤣. See you lack knowledge and just teaching what they taught you but deep inside you know you are wrong

The fact that the disciples are Isreal shows he only abandoned those who did wrong. So Isaiah 2 is all about Isreal

JW are not doing better than other Christians. God only work with those who do right. The scripture says must return and the government must be on him so he didn't rule. All that verse must be fulfilled when he comes cos he will clarify many things that were actually written and those added by the Romans who ruled then and twisted his teachings. For now JW and everyone are doing whatever they feel like. Isaiah 2 must be fulfilled with Christ presence on earth. The fact that the verse says MANY will come and seek the God their shows that MANY today including JWs know no what they are doing. You are just trying to belong. Christ presence in his temple has the final say to what will happen then. Learn man. You know nothing. You just following JWs lies. They know know nothing
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:34pm On Mar 15
bobestman:
You are just a scriptural olodo. You just thief verses you have no knowledge and attach JW to them.
Prove me wrong by presenting a group of worshipers who are fulfilling all these prophecies nah!🙂
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by sonmvayina(m): 6:54pm On Mar 15
MaxInDHouse:
So try to ignore me!🤣
why are you eager to talk to every body. I was referring to Dtruitspeaker.
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by FxMasterz(op): 10:45am On Mar 16
[quote author=Truthseeker10 post=138770595][/quote].


My dear, go and sit down.

Tell me the knowledge the robber on the right side of Jesus had before He was promised paradise on the cross.
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by FxMasterz(op): 10:46am On Mar 16
MaxInDHouse:
Was Paul insincere when he was killing Christians?
Did Paul accept Jesus as Lord and Savior when he was killing Christians?
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:16am On Mar 16
FxMasterz:
Did Paul accept Jesus as Lord and Savior when he was killing Christians?
So if he accepts Jesus can he still kill people?😟
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by FxMasterz(op): 11:19am On Mar 16
MaxInDHouse:
So if he accepts Jesus can he still kill people?😟
Answer my question.
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:36am On Mar 16
FxMasterz:
Answer my question.
The answer to your question lies in the question i asked you!
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by FxMasterz(op): 3:09pm On Mar 16
MaxInDHouse:
The answer to your question lies in the question i asked you!
The question you asked does not relate with anything I've said so far.

I have said that someone who has accepted Jesus as Lord and Savior, and is sincerely walking with Him and searches the Scriptures to truthfully understand the Word of God, etc is acceptable by God if he does righteousness.

Now, tell me how your question relates.
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:52pm On Mar 16
FxMasterz:
The question you asked does not relate with anything I've said so far.
I have said that someone who has accepted Jesus as Lord and Savior, and is sincerely walking with Him and searches the Scriptures to truthfully understand the Word of God, etc is acceptable by God if he does righteousness.
Now, tell me how your question relates.
You've changed your narrative with the highlighted otherwise you should have presented a group of people doing the above but you were saying SINCERITY is enough even though the person does not agree with you. That's why i asked if Paul was a sincere Pharisee or not!
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by Truthseeker10: 4:44pm On Mar 16
FxMasterz:
.


My dear, go and sit down.

Tell me the knowledge the robber on the right side of Jesus had before He was promised paradise on the cross.
1)Lol....so Jesus lied in John 17:3?

2)below is your below:

"God judges you on whether you believe what Christ did for you or not. That's all."

Does your statement above agree with John 17:3

3)So if Everybody on earth recite what the arm robber said, we will all be saved?
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