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Re: Mutual Funds by Niiade(m): 7:24pm On Mar 13
ezef2k4:
Where una dey see this money?
Question we dey my head
Re: Mutual Funds by sky404: 6:50am On Mar 14
But is it wise to put in Huge amounts of money in a money market fund??
what if the fund manager liquidates as commercial banks often do??

At least with commercial banks,
You can Get your money back through NDIC, should the Bank liquidates.
as all deposits from 5m & below are all insured by NDIC.
Therefore,
You are Guaranteed Getting your money back, should the Bank folds.

But can same be said of fund managers of money market fund in Nigeria??
where people put in more than 5m & in some case 50m & above??

I just want to know,
what if the fund manager folds up today,
what happens to our funds in there,
as money market fund is NOT insured by NDIC

I just want to learn,pls.
Neurotika:
Well, I guess it depends on how much you're trying to take out from them. I was handed a form to fill when I wanted pulling out 18m few weeks back. This is almost 4 days after sending them a mail. But another FM (and it's not even one of the popular ones) liquidated 54m for me the same day I sent them a mail request. Different strokes perhaps….
Re: Mutual Funds by AncestralPowers:
Questions like this will definitely prevent you from investing or achieving your financial goals.

No investment is 100% free of risk.

Since the inception of mutual fund investments in Nigeria, no fund manager has ever gone bankrupt or investors losing money to fund managers.

Go to Oga-emmasoft's page and read about the safety of fund managers in Nigeria, he has trashed this topic severally.




sky404:
But is it wise to put in Huge amounts of money in a money market fund??
what if the fund manager liquidates as commercial banks often do??

At least with commercial banks,
You can Get your money back through NDIC, should the Bank liquidates.
as all deposits from 5m & below are all insured by NDIC.
Therefore,
You are Guaranteed Getting your money back, should the Bank folds.

But can same be said of fund managers of money market fund in Nigeria??
where people put in more than 5m & in some case 50m & above??

I just want to know,
what if the fund manager folds up today,
what happens to our funds in there,
as money market fund is NOT insured by NDIC

I just want to learn,pls.
Re: Mutual Funds by Bluearrow: 8:40am On Mar 14
sky404:
At least with commercial banks,
You can Get your money back through NDIC, should the Bank liquidates.
as all deposits from 5m & below are all insured by NDIC
.
Therefore,
You are Guaranteed Getting your money back, should the Bank folds.
So what about people with 50m, 100m in their bank account, what should they do? Since the maximum NDIC insures is 5m?
Re: Mutual Funds by Neurotika: 9:04am On Mar 14
sky404:
But is it wise to put in Huge amounts of money in a money market fund??
what if the fund manager liquidates as commercial banks often do??

At least with commercial banks,
You can Get your money back through NDIC, should the Bank liquidates.
as all deposits from 5m & below are all insured by NDIC.
Therefore,
You are Guaranteed Getting your money back, should the Bank folds.

But can same be said of fund managers of money market fund in Nigeria??
where people put in more than 5m & in some case 50m & above??

I just want to know,
what if the fund manager folds up today,
what happens to our funds in there,
as money market fund is NOT insured by NDIC

I just want to learn,pls.
This issue has been thrashed severally here though. But to reiterate, a money market fund isn't the same as a bank deposit. Drop money in a bank, and it becomes their problem…they lend it out, and if they collapse, your fate is same as any other creditor out there.

A money market fund works quite differently. You're buying units in a pool of financial assets (mostly Treasury bills and other short-term high grade commercial papers).

That pool doesn't sit with the fund manager. It's held separately by a custodian, overseen by a trustee, and the manager just handles the investments. If the fund manager goes under, your assets are still with the custodian.

So the main risk (regarding permanent loss of funds) shifts entirely to what's inside that asset pool. In Nigeria, SEC regulates this area heavily and requires most of it to be Treasury bills. Which means the real question isn't whether the fund manager is solid but whether you trust the government to fulfill its debt obligations.
Re: Mutual Funds by AncestralPowers: 9:49am On Mar 14
Please don't get discouraged investing the little money you have, just because someone is mentioning huge sum he/she had invested or withdrew.

Some of us here are over 50yrs of age, we have worked our entire life, and we also have a huge number of abroadians here, who earn in foreign currencies and invest in Nigeria directly, and many abroadians had been doing that for decades, and you cannot compare yourself with such people.


However, I would advise those of us with millions/billions in investments to avoid calling numbers, so that those of us with peanuts won't get discouraged to invest the little we have...

Investment is a matter of slow and steady process, and time is your biggest advantage.


ezef2k4:
Where una dey see this money?
Re: Mutual Funds by emmaBS(m): 11:13am On Mar 14
AncestralPowers:
Please don't get discouraged investing the little money you have, just because someone is mentioning huge sum he/she had invested or withdrew.

Some of us here are over 50yrs of age, we have worked our entire life, and we also have a huge number of abroadians here, who earn in foreign currencies and invest in Nigeria directly, and many abroadians had been doing that for decades, and you cannot compare yourself with such people.


However, I would advise those of us with millions/billions in investments to avoid calling numbers, so that those of us with peanuts won't get discouraged to invest the little we have...

Investment is a matter of slow and steady process, and time is your biggest advantage.
Rather, number calling by people with huge investments inspires motivation, not discouragement.
Re: Mutual Funds by Preator: 11:49am On Mar 14
emmaBS:
Rather, number calling by people with huge investments inspires motivation, not discouragement.
I've not really seen anyone call huge money here sef. All of us are in the "peanuts" category. The key bit about investing is to form the habit and cut down excesses. The amount doesnt matter as long as you invest as much as you reasonably can.
Re: Mutual Funds by Coolis: 12:10pm On Mar 14
I refuse to agree with you, number calling is an act of intimidation/showing off.





emmaBS:
Rather, number calling by people with huge investments inspires motivation, not discouragement.
Re: Mutual Funds by Creditalerts: 12:23pm On Mar 14
pluto09:
How can one register with trust bank mmf directly since we can't do that through cowrywise again
download trustbanc prime pro from play store


You can also follow them on Instagram for investment information/updates

Re: Mutual Funds by Coolis: 12:27pm On Mar 14
You are right, those calling numbers here are only trying to intimidation others. They are not inspiring anyone.

In the local assembly l worship, the set man of God would say application of wisdom is required even in testifying to the doing of God almighty especially as regards financial breakthrough.

For instance, if by God's help, one secures a multi million contract, one can just leave it at mult million or to say something like, l won a contract in multiple six zeros while testifying to avoid attracting unnecessary attention. The reason is, some people have been followed from church to their house for mentioning some amount in church.

The people calling figures in the realm of millions here are doing so because this is a faceless forum, if it were a physical meeting place, they would have been visited by people that need the money More than they do, for showing off all the time.



AncestralPowers:
Please don't get discouraged investing the little money you have, just because someone is mentioning huge sum he/she had invested or withdrew.

Some of us here are over 50yrs of age, we have worked our entire life, and we also have a huge number of abroadians here, who earn in foreign currencies and invest in Nigeria directly, and many abroadians had been doing that for decades, and you cannot compare yourself with such people.


However, I would advise those of us with millions/billions in investments to avoid calling numbers, so that those of us with peanuts won't get discouraged to invest the little we have...

Investment is a matter of slow and steady process, and time is your biggest advantage.
Re: Mutual Funds by emmasoft(m): 1:32pm On Mar 14
Neurotika:
This issue has been thrashed severally here though. But to reiterate, a money market fund isn't the same as a bank deposit. Drop money in a bank, and it becomes their problem…they lend it out, and if they collapse, your fate is same as any other creditor out there.

A money market fund works quite differently. You're buying units in a pool of financial assets (mostly Treasury bills and other short-term high grade commercial papers).

That pool doesn't sit with the fund manager. It's held separately by a custodian, overseen by a trustee, and the manager just handles the investments. If the fund manager goes under, your assets are still with the custodian.

So the main risk (regarding permanent loss of funds) shifts entirely to what's inside that asset pool. In Nigeria, SEC regulates this area heavily and requires most of it to be Treasury bills. Which means the real question isn't whether the fund manager is solid but whether you trust the government to fulfill its debt obligations.
Safety of funds in MMF and the mention of invested Figures

@Neurotika, @AncestralPowers, @Preator, and others, thanks for your contributions.

As a rule in investing, anyone promising an investment without risk should make you very cautious and be wary of such promises. There is no investment without risk. The proper way to look at investments is by their risk level: low, medium, or high, which is the industry standard. You, as an investor, should determine and recognize your risk tolerance and investment objective to enable you to pick an investment in any or all the categories.

As already mentioned, the issue of the safety of funds in Money Market Funds (MMF) has been addressed by many of my earlier posts and other contributors on this forum.

@sky404, what if I tell you that money in MMF can actually be safer than money in an MDB when you consider what NDIC actually insures? You can read more on MMF from this thread or other reliable sources to guide yourself.

Also, when building an investment culture, seeing others mention big figures should motivate you, not intimidate or discourage you.

I recently introduced a colleague and a Nairaland forum member to stock investing. They were very excited to receive a dividend of less than ₦500. It may sound small, but the joy of seeing your money work for you is priceless.

Yes, some people received millions in dividends from the same stock, but there is no magic or cheating in investing; you earn according to what you put in. The important thing is starting and staying consistent.

Even if someone mentions big figures to intimidate or show off, if you understand what you are doing and your investment objectives are clear, you will interpret it differently and protect your mental health.

Investment is personal, even though we learn together.

To everyone on the path to financial freedom, kudos, and keep it up.
Remember, it’s not the size of the investment that matters most, but the consistency of putting in little by little over time.

Happy weekend, everyone.
Re: Mutual Funds by Neurotika: 1:37pm On Mar 14
I’m not sure who the “number calling” comments are aimed at, but if it’s about my last post on redemption, then it’s a mischievous attempt to misunderstand the intent. I’m not one to name drop figures and I’ve been here for a while (feel free to check my past thread), and even when tempted to make a point, I deliberately avoid it. Even when others do it, I just don’t.

My point was simply to explain why the talk about fast liquidation with Stanbic doesn’t work for me, based on my own experience. It’s hard to explain that without referencing figures.

In any case, we’re all at different places here. No matter how much you have, someone has more. Best thing is to focus on your own hustle and let everyone keep pushing. God will definitely bless each of us in His time. But stop the negative energy pls.
Re: Mutual Funds by Neurotika: 1:37pm On Mar 14
emmasoft:
Safety of funds in MMF and the mention of invested Figures

@Neurotika, @AncestralPowers, @Preator, and others, thanks for your contributions.

As a rule in investing, anyone promising an investment without risk should make you very cautious and be wary of such promises. There is no investment without risk. The proper way to look at investments is by their risk level: low, medium, or high, which is the industry standard. You, as an investor, should determine and recognize your risk tolerance and investment objective to enable you to pick an investment in any or all the categories.

As already mentioned, the issue of the safety of funds in Money Market Funds (MMF) has been addressed by many of my earlier posts and other contributors on this forum.

@sky404, what if I tell you that money in MMF can actually be safer than money in an MDB when you consider what NDIC actually insures? You can read more on MMF from this thread or other reliable sources to guide yourself.

Also, when building an investment culture, seeing others mention big figures should motivate you, not intimidate or discourage you.

I recently introduced a colleague and a Nairaland forum member to stock investing. They were very excited to receive a dividend of less than ₦500. It may sound small, but the joy of seeing your money work for you is priceless.

Yes, some people received millions in dividends from the same stock, but there is no magic or cheating in investing; you earn according to what you put in. The important thing is starting and staying consistent.

Even if someone mentions big figures to intimidate or show off, if you understand what you are doing and your investment objectives are clear, you will interpret it differently and protect your mental health.

Investment is personal, even though we learn together.

To everyone on the path to financial freedom, kudos, and keep it up.
Remember, it’s not the size of the investment that matters most, but the consistency of putting in little by little over time.

Happy weekend, everyone.
Nicely put. Bless up bro.
Re: Mutual Funds by Bluearrow: 1:52pm On Mar 14
Nothing we won't see on this thread cheesy
How can someone be calling number termed intimidation? On a faceless forum? Some persons call these numbers just to portray their point better. If u can see it as intimidation u have self esteem issues gosh!
It should even serve as more of a motivation, it gives u an idea of the kind of funds people have in these platforms, that way u feel relaxed & less fearful regardless of your amount.

We just saw someone saying if his funds is safe in mmf, imagine such a person had 10m & seeing others saying they dumped 100m there, I believe he will be more relaxed. People should be free to express their point however they like, I don't see how this translates to intimidation at all.
Re: Mutual Funds by Coolis: 3:34pm On Mar 14
It's not about low self esteem issue here bro. This group is not only about investment, it's also an educational platform. From the submission of @Emmasoft and others, we can see clearly the benefits of calling figures, which is meant to encourage double minded individual about our common investment(MMF).

But, if you have been paying attention to some comments like " where una dey see this money from" after someone mentioned figure in previous thread, then, you will understand my point. Nigeria is still the poverty headquarter of the world, l learnt we overtook India again recently, l stand to be corrected. Now, we can conclude that mentioning figures has dual purposes/pros and cons. While someone's faith maybe encouraged, others may see it as oppression.

Me, am running my race at my pace and in my lane. Not in any competition with nobody. So low self esteem is out of the question. One love, just trying to make common sense







Bluearrow:
Nothing we won't see on this thread cheesy
How can someone be calling number termed intimidation? On a faceless forum? Some persons call these numbers just to portray their point better. If u can see it as intimidation u have self esteem issues gosh!
It should even serve as more of a motivation, it gives u an idea of the kind of funds people have in these platforms, that way u feel relaxed & less fearful regardless of your amount.

We just saw someone saying if his funds is safe in mmf, imagine such a person had 10m & seeing others saying they dumped 100m there, I believe he will be more relaxed. People should be free to express their point however they like, I don't see how this translates to intimidation at all.
Bluearrow:
Nothing we won't see on this thread cheesy
How can someone be calling number termed intimidation? On a faceless forum? Some persons call these numbers just to portray their point better. If u can see it as intimidation u have self esteem issues gosh!
It should even serve as more of a motivation, it gives u an idea of the kind of funds people have in these platforms, that way u feel relaxed & less fearful regardless of your amount.

We just saw someone saying if his funds is safe in mmf, imagine such a person had 10m & seeing others saying they dumped 100m there, I believe he will be more relaxed. People should be free to express their point however they like, I don't see how this translates to intimidation at all.
Re: Mutual Funds by Iamblessed8888: 4:00pm On Mar 14
Trustbanc issues commercial papers via UCML capital
Re: Mutual Funds by Palomadove: 5:06pm On Mar 14
The way we see number calling shows a great deal about our personalities sha. The number calling people do here makes me more focused on my investment goal....like I should have started yesterday. I wish I was on this forum when I was in University so I could have gotten on the bus earlier with my peanut allowances. To each his/her own. Either way, the number calling shouldn't intimidate anyone from the investment goals. Investment is not a competition, it's a slow and steady race. Doing it consistently the key, not the amount.
Re: Mutual Funds by Stockhunter: 8:59pm On Mar 14
You will be shocked that the person saying where una de see this money may even have much more funds and just catching cruise and having a good time.

Calling figures only motivates.

Coolis:
It's not about low self esteem issue here bro. This group is not only about investment, it's also an educational platform. From the submission of @Emmasoft and others, we can see clearly the benefits of calling figures, which is meant to encourage double minded individual about our common investment(MMF).

But, if you have been paying attention to some comments like " where una dey see this money from" after someone mentioned figure in previous thread, then, you will understand my point. Nigeria is still the poverty headquarter of the world, l learnt we overtook India again recently, l stand to be corrected. Now, we can conclude that mentioning figures has dual purposes/pros and cons. While someone's faith maybe encouraged, others may see it as oppression.

Me, am running my race at my pace and in my lane. Not in any competition with nobody. So low self esteem is out of the question. One love, just trying to make common sense
Re: Mutual Funds by Alaska90(m): 2:19am On Mar 15
Iamblessed8888:
Trustbanc issues commercial papers via UCML capital
I hope this is not a sign of wahala in the house oh
Re: Mutual Funds by LoriHamo: 4:41pm On Mar 15
How o o....

I didn't know that assest management firms can issue CP for themselves....

Alaska90:
I hope this is not a sign of wahala in the house oh
Re: Mutual Funds by djavo(m): 7:09pm On Mar 15
Why TrustBanc is offering it

Companies in the TrustBanc group have issued commercial papers before to raise funds, including several billions of naira through the FMDQ market.

They have also redeemed past commercial papers at maturity, which is a positive sign for credit reliability.

So offering CP is normal for asset managers and financial groups.
Source: Chatgpt, March 2026.
Re: Mutual Funds by freeman67: 7:22am On Mar 16
Alaska90:
I hope this is not a sign of wahala in the house oh
As a company, if they are short on working capital or have plans for expansion and all. This is one of the (easier) ways they can raise funds. It's not your investment with them that they will use to do all those.
Re: Mutual Funds by LoriHamo: 8:16am On Mar 16
What are those companies?....

Their products? Services?.....Any idea?

Good morning all


djavo:
Why TrustBanc is offering it

Companies in the TrustBanc group have issued commercial papers before to raise funds, including several billions of naira through the FMDQ market.

They have also redeemed past commercial papers at maturity, which is a positive sign for credit reliability.

So offering CP is normal for asset managers and financial groups.
Source: Chatgpt, March 2026.
Re: Mutual Funds by jp130(m): 8:58am On Mar 16
The app is returning invalid bvn when I tried to register through asset management.

What's the way forward please?

Creditalerts:
download trustbanc prime pro from play store


You can also follow them on Instagram for investment information/updates
Re: Mutual Funds by djavo(m): 9:15am On Mar 16
LoriHamo:
What are those companies?....

Their products? Services?.....Any idea?

Good morning all
Do a Google research and you'll get answers to your questions.
Re: Mutual Funds by Creditalerts: 9:58am On Mar 16
jp130:
The app is returning invalid bvn when I tried to register through asset management.

What's the way forward please?
call any of their customer service number via Instagram page I posted they will attend to you
Re: Mutual Funds by ManAdii: 5:00pm On Mar 16
My marriage with Stanbic Ibtc fund managers end today.
You can't imagine my level of frustration right now. To redeem my own fund too.

Na wa
Re: Mutual Funds by sky404: 5:07pm On Mar 16
lol
Hahahaha
No be small thing oo
ManAdii:
My marriage with Stanbic Ibtc fund managers end today.
You can't imagine my level of frustration right now. To redeem my own fund too.

Na wa
Re: Mutual Funds by suckprick: 5:23pm On Mar 16
ManAdii:
My marriage with Stanbic Ibtc fund managers end today.
You can't imagine my level of frustration right now. To redeem my own fund too.

Na wa
What happened?
Re: Mutual Funds by kaceei: 5:28pm On Mar 16
I don't know if there are people here that are resident of the UK and investing in Nigeria? I want to confirm if one should or shouldn't declare the income made from investments in Nigeria to HMRC. If yes, how do you go about it?
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