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Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:07pm On Mar 18
FxMasterz:
leading them astray.
“For this reason I say to you, every sort of sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the spirit will not be forgiven. For example, whoever speaks a word against the Son of man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the holy spirit, it will not be forgiven him, no, not in this system of things nor in that to come" Matthew 12:31-32
The one and only organization of imperfect humans fulfilling what God promised you said they are astray?😀

Ọmọ think of what Jesus said about sinning against the holy spirit o!🙂

Because there is no spirit apart from God's holy spirit that can make imperfect humans throughout the earth to agree on doing God's will.

All the prophecies Jesus fulfilled in the first century Pharisees kept claiming he was using demonic powers even though they can see that he is fulfilling what the scriptures said about the Christ the same thing you are doing today saying a global family of peace loving worshipers {Isaiah 2:4} is going astray!🙂
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:09pm On Mar 18
So that thief just believe that the dying man beside him is going to become a king without any prior knowledge shey?

Ọmọ stop deceiving yourself nah!😀
FxMasterz:
Nobody believes anything until ONE DAY. That one day is called the day of salvation:
2 Corinthians 6:2
For he saith, I have heard thee in a time accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by FxMasterz(op): 4:31pm On Mar 18
MaxInDHouse:
So that thief just believe that the dying man beside him is going to become a king without any prior knowledge shey?

Ọmọ stop deceiving yourself nah!😀
Did you have a prior knowledge that Jesus would become a King before you converted from Islam?
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by FxMasterz(op): 4:32pm On Mar 18
MaxInDHouse:
“For this reason I say to you, every sort of sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the spirit will not be forgiven. For example, whoever speaks a word against the Son of man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the holy spirit, it will not be forgiven him, no, not in this system of things nor in that to come" Matthew 12:31-32
The one and only organization of imperfect humans fulfilling what God promised you said they are astray?😀

Ọmọ think of what Jesus said about sinning against the holy spirit o!🙂

Because there is no spirit apart from God's holy spirit that can make imperfect humans throughout the earth to agree on doing God's will.

All the prophecies Jesus fulfilled in the first century Pharisees kept claiming he was using demonic powers even though they can see that he is fulfilling what the scriptures said about the Christ the same thing you are doing today saying a global family of peace loving worshipers {Isaiah 2:4} is going astray!🙂
Lol.

Are your 8 rulers in the USA your Holy Spirit?
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:40pm On Mar 18
FxMasterz:
Did you have a prior knowledge that Jesus would become a King before you converted from Islam?
Guy, i was born and raised in that faith so there is nothing than following my parents until i began hearing, reading and meditating on things i heard and read!😟
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:49pm On Mar 18
FxMasterz:
Lol.
Are your 8 rulers in the USA your Holy Spirit?
Exactly what faithless Judaists said when Jesus' disciples were pointing out scriptures Jesus was fulfilling as the promised Christ.
So if you speak against men it's OK but then the works they are doing globally using imperfect humans from different nations throughout the earth including racist nations like Arabs shows they are working with a powerful spirit {John 10:37-38} therefore think before you commit the unforgivable sin. Matthew 12:31-32
A piece of advice!🙂
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by Truthseeker10: 6:22pm On Mar 18
FxMasterz:
What knowledge did the robber on the tree have about Yahweh before he had assurance of paradise?

One single question, you refused to answer. Meanwhile I have answers your endless questions.

I won't answer you until you answer the question above.
The question that you have asked means that your Explanation of John 17:3 is false. Below is your statement about John 17:3.

"Knowledge of the Only true God. Knowing Yahweh as the ONLY true God and knowing that He sent Jesus for your salvation, and believing in what He did for you. That is Life Eternal."

The armed robber has therefore proved that you are a false teacher according to your statement above.
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:01pm On Mar 18
Just imagine saying someone must have the KNOWLEDGE of the only true God and knowing Jesus yet according to him the thief has no knowledge but has gained what only people having the knowledge could have!😀
Truthseeker10:
The question that you have asked means that your Explanation of John 17:3 is false. Below is your statement about John 17:3.
"Knowledge of the Only true God. Knowing Yahweh as the ONLY true God and knowing that He sent Jesus for your salvation, and believing in what He did for you. That is Life Eternal."
The armed robber has therefore proved that you are a false teacher according to your statement above.
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by Truthseeker10: 7:41pm On Mar 18
MaxInDHouse:
Just imagine saying someone must have the KNOWLEDGE of the only true God and knowing Jesus yet according to him the thief has no knowledge but has gained what only people having the knowledge could have!😀
The FxMasterz guy needs help. He always contradicts himself.
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:42pm On Mar 18
Truthseeker10:
The FxMasterz guy needs help. He always contradicts himself.
He is just deceiving himself!😟
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by FxMasterz(op): 11:14am On Mar 19
MaxInDHouse:
He is just deceiving himself!😟
Says someone who does not submit to the Word of God as his final authority.
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by FxMasterz(op): 11:15am On Mar 19
Truthseeker10:
The FxMasterz guy needs help. He always contradicts himself.
He contradicts himself only when you're confused.

Ask clarifying questions if the matter seems too much for you to handle.
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:23am On Mar 19
FxMasterz:
Says someone who does not submit to the Word of God as his final authority.
Submitting to God's word is exactly the focus of Pharisees yet they failed to see how Jesus was fulfilling the prophecies found written in God's word the same way you think you are submitting to the word of God but failed to see why it's impossible for you to present your fellow worshipers with whom you are unitedly doing God's will as Jesus Christ commanded his disciples! Matthew 28:19-20; Act 1:8
Thousands of different religionists out there are claiming submission to God's word but facing different directions! Luke 11:23😀
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by FxMasterz(op): 12:46pm On Mar 19
MaxInDHouse:
Submitting to God's word is exactly the focus of Pharisees yet they failed to see how Jesus was fulfilling the prophecies found written in God's word the same way you think you are submitting to the word of God but failed to see why it's impossible for you to present your fellow worshipers with whom you are unitedly doing God's will as Jesus Christ commanded his disciples! Matthew 28:19-20; Act 1:8
Thousands of different religionists out there are claiming submission to God's word but facing different directions! Luke 11:23😀
Lol. So, submitting to God's Word is the same thing as failing to see or rejecting clear prophecies according to you.

We understand that the Pharisees were blinded. And there was a prophecy to that effect.

So, failing to show a physical gathering is also an indication of not submitting to God's Word according to you. Lol. If we ask you to produce a scripture that supports what you said how, you'll be navigating a new bend without minding that your attention is not needed on that side of the road.

You would see clearly what is written in the word of God and ignore it in preference for human doctrines, and yet you're here still having something to say? You don't fear God?
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by FxMasterz(op): 12:54pm On Mar 19
Truthseeker10:
The question that you have asked means that your Explanation of John 17:3 is false. Below is your statement about John 17:3.

"Knowledge of the Only true God. Knowing Yahweh as the ONLY true God and knowing that He sent Jesus for your salvation, and believing in what He did for you. That is Life Eternal."
Knowing that the God of Israel is the only true God and that He has sent Jesus His Son to die for his sins, and that Jesus is both Lord and Savior and a coming King is what you're crying out loud about?

That's the knowledge I'm talking about. Not doctrines. Not Trinity or no Trinity. Baptism or no baptism. Tithe or no tithe. Just the very foundational truths. J
esus must have told him the foundational truths on the cross. The reason for which the other thief must have said "If thou be the Son of God, save yourself and us." Meaning Jesus expressly witnessed to them that He was the Son of God.

What other knowledge do you want them to have to be saved? Can you clearly state it?

The armed robber has therefore proved that you are a false teacher according to your statement above.
No, it only means that your reasoning is myopic and that somrone must break simple truths into chunks for you to understand.
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by FxMasterz(op): 1:04pm On Mar 19
MaxInDHouse:
Exactly what faithless Judaists said when Jesus' disciples were pointing out scriptures Jesus was fulfilling as the promised Christ.
So if you speak against men it's OK but then the works they are doing globally using imperfect humans from different nations throughout the earth including racist nations like Arabs shows they are working with a powerful spirit {John 10:37-38} therefore think before you commit the unforgivable sin. Matthew 12:31-32
A piece of advice!🙂
Keep your advice to yourself dear. You cannot be commenting sacrilege against the Word of God and be claiming your sacrilege is from the Holy Spirit. You cannot deliberately falsify scriptures and be claiming your falsification is from the Holy Spirit.

For example, you cannot translate John 1:1 which in Greek says "...the Word was God" to ",...the word was a god" and be claiming that the deceptive translation is from the Holy Spirit.

The Holly Spirit cannot prophesy the coming of Jesus through you several times and be failing each time. You must be a false prophet.

Go and advice your 8 rulers to stop impersonating the Holy Spirit and repent of their sins. If they humble themselves before God, God will accept them and pardon their iniquities, and show them mercy. They should actually give their hearts to Christ and become born again.
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by FxMasterz(op): 1:07pm On Mar 19
MaxInDHouse:
Guy, i was born and raised in that faith so there is nothing than following my parents until i began hearing, reading and meditating on things i heard and read!😟
You have openly said it here that you were once a Muslim who got converted during your days in the army. Were you lying all these while?
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:26pm On Mar 19
FxMasterz:
You have openly said it here that you were once a Muslim who got converted during your days in the army. Were you lying all these while?
I was born and raised in that faith.

That is what i said but you don't ask what type of faith?

Well i meant the Islamic faith?😟
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by FxMasterz(op): 3:27pm On Mar 19
MaxInDHouse:
I was born and raised in that faith.

That is what i said but you don't ask what type of faith?

Well i meant the Islamic faith?😟
Lol.

I asked you if you had all knowledge of doctrine the very day you converted from Islam. You started beating around the bush because you didn't want to tell the truth.
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:03pm On Mar 19
FxMasterz:
Lol.
I asked you if you had all knowledge of doctrine the very day you converted from Islam. You started beating around the bush because you didn't want to tell the truth.
Do you mean my conversion means i'm saved already?🤔
Because what we are discussing is that salvation will be achieved through the accurate knowledge of God and Christ Jesus {John 17:3} something that is an ongoing process that's why Jesus said:

“All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth. Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you. And look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things" Matthew 28:18-20

Highlighted in red is what can help us gain salvation o!😟
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by FxMasterz(op): 6:11pm On Mar 19
MaxInDHouse:
Do you mean my conversion means i'm saved already?🤔
Because what we are discussing is that salvation will be achieved through the accurate knowledge of God and Christ Jesus {John 17:3} something that is an ongoing process that's why Jesus said:
If any JW member dies today after being a member last week, would he be saved?

Give your reasons.

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“All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth. Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you. And look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things" Matthew 28:18-20

Highlighted in red is what can help us gain salvation o!😟
So, answer my question above.
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:17pm On Mar 19
Salvation is certain only for Born Again Witnesses of Jehovah but as for the rest the Bible said it's Christ's thousand years reign that will determine their salvation!
FxMasterz:
If any JW member dies today after being a member last week, would he be saved?
Give your reasons.
So, answer my question above.
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by FxMasterz(op): 6:25pm On Mar 19
MaxInDHouse:
Salvation is certain only for Born Again Witnesses of Jehovah but as for the rest the Bible said it's Christ's thousand years reign that will determine their salvation!
So, who are the born again witnesses? And can someone born again today be saved if he dies same day?
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:28pm On Mar 19
FxMasterz:
So, who are the born again witnesses?
John 3:3-5

FxMasterz:
And can someone born again today be saved if he dies same day?
1Thessalonians 4:16-17
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by FxMasterz(op): 9:02pm On Mar 19
MaxInDHouse:
John 3:3-5


1Thessalonians 4:16-17
So, you want to dodge the questions?

Only two questions:

1. Who is a born again JW?

2. If a JW gets born again today and dies same day, would he be saved?
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by MaxInDHouse(m):
FxMasterz:
So, you want to dodge the questions?
Only two questions:
1. Who is a born again JW?
2. If a JW gets born again today and dies same day, would he be saved?
A Born Again Witness is a servant of God that's born of water and spirit. John 3:3-5

In the Bible no one became born again and died without WORKS of faith so it's either they are killed while doing their work like Stephen and James {Act 7:58; 12:2} or they grow old and die in the service like apostle John who wrote the Bible book of Revelation.
So there is no Born Again who died without doing the works of faith in the Bible neither can anyone be a born again and die the same day.
What Jesus told them is they must work really hard in the faith for direct salvation! Matthew 20:20-23🙂
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by FxMasterz(op): 1:08pm On Mar 20
MaxInDHouse:
A Born Again Witness is a servant of God that's born of water and spirit. John 3:3-5

In the Bible no one became born again and died without WORKS of faith so it's either they are killed while doing their work like Stephen and James {Act 7:58; 12:2} or they grow old and die in the service like apostle John who wrote the Bible book of Revelation.
So there is no Born Again who died without doing the works of faith in the Bible neither can anyone be a born again and die the same day.
What Jesus told them is they must work really hard in the faith for direct salvation! Matthew 20:20-23🙂
According to your doctrine, how does this 'born again' event happen? What is the process of being born again?

Secondly, are you go to know the
day anybody dies? What do you mean by no one can be born again and die same day? Did that Robber not die the same day he accepted Jesus as his Lord?

Please answer my question. If a man becomes born again and dies same day, would he be saved?
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:16pm On Mar 20
FxMasterz:
Did that Robber not die the same day he accepted Jesus as his Lord?
Regarding being Born Again Jesus said:

“Most truly I say to you, unless anyone is born from water and spirit, he cannot enter into the Kingdom of God.  What has been born from the flesh is flesh, and what has been born from the spirit is spirit." John 3:5-6

So that thief was never a Born Again he is just a Christian and not all Christians becomes Born Again!🙂
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by FxMasterz(op): 5:14pm On Mar 20
MaxInDHouse:
Regarding being Born Again Jesus said:

“Most truly I say to you, unless anyone is born from water and spirit, he cannot enter into the Kingdom of God.  What has been born from the flesh is flesh, and what has been born from the spirit is spirit." John 3:5-6

So that thief was never a Born Again he is just a Christian and not all Christians becomes Born Again!🙂
Since he was not apparently not born of water, he cannot enter the kingdom of God?

You didn't answer my questions at all.

1. What is the process for becoming born again as a JW?

2. If a man gets born again today and dies today, would he be saved?
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by MaxInDHouse(m):
FxMasterz:
Since he was not apparently not born of water, he cannot enter the kingdom of God?
You didn't answer my questions at all.
1. What is the process for becoming born again as a JW?
2. If a man gets born again today and dies today, would he be saved?
Do you believe what Jesus said about the process of becoming born again?
Was the thief qualified?
Was Jesus lying about the process?🙂
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by Truthseeker10: 8:53pm On Mar 20
FxMasterz:
Knowing that the God of Israel is the only true God and that He has sent Jesus His Son to die for his sins, and that Jesus is both Lord and Savior and a coming King is what you're crying out loud about?

That's the knowledge I'm talking about. Not doctrines. Not Trinity or no Trinity. Baptism or no baptism. Tithe or no tithe. Just the very foundational truths. J
esus must have told him the foundational truths on the cross. The reason for which the other thief must have said "If thou be the Son of God, save yourself and us." Meaning Jesus expressly witnessed to them that He was the Son of God.

What other knowledge do you want them to have to be saved? Can you clearly state it?


No, it only means that your reasoning is myopic and that somrone must break simple truths into chunks for you to understand.
Why are you twisting your own statement? Below is your statement.

"Knowledge of the Only true God. Knowing Yahweh as the ONLY true God and knowing that He sent Jesus for your salvation, and believing in what He did for you. That is Life Eternal."

Did Jesus tell the thief that YAHWEH was the only true God and not Jesus Christ to be saved?
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