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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 3:19pm On Mar 20
Cococandy,
Nateevs2,
Obrigardo,
IjeBos,
GloriousGbola

You've got three more years to lose your mind
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 3:26pm On Mar 20
Bayelsaowei, how do you find peace with these people?

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by TV01(m): 3:38pm On Mar 20
IjeBos:
Huh?
You're not seriously writing this.
Actually I am. And you've neatly skirted my point and my posers

IjeBos:
Yes, I'm the one who made up the word colo-mentality and also wrote the lyrics to the song.
Jesus
There are people in this thread who absolutely see whiteness as better.
Care less about the song. That wasn't my entry point. Maybe they don't see "whiteness as better", just acknowledge that some societies are better ordered, are able to build and maintain functioning institutions and are more technologically advanced. Higher up the civilisational curve one might say.

They fact that they acknowledge that some countries (many white) without at once blaming (white people), for the backwardness of their own countries of origin (mostly black). Doesn't mean that they see "whiteness as superior". And, even if they do, and, you feel that they are wrong, make the point - racial slurs don't do that.

Conversely, not owning the situation in your own(black) countries and trying to unrelentingly pin it other countries\people can be seen as grifting at best.

Are the Fulani as far up the civilisational curve as the Swedes or the Australians? If not, and if it's not due to the superiority of the Swedes or the Australians, what is it down too? What about the English and the Romanians or the Albanians?

Feel free to explain causality amongst people groups, regions or countries., where race is not a factor. Once your only recourse boils down to race, race, race, you can't ever broaden the discussion or have anything other than a blinkered or ideological view.

Or riddle us this. Are the Fulani as civilisationally advanced as the Yoruba or the Igbo? Where is the colour dimension here.

IjeBos:
People who advocate that black people were better off as slaves so they could have been in the US.
Their general disposition has radiated out so much that their black child uses a white child as her avatar and he seems proud of it. Is that a surprise?
Sounds mostly like your perception. Not an argument I would necessarily make, but black Americans are the most prosperous black people anywhere in the world. When I grew up in the UK , Bruce Lee, Muhammed Ali and Pelé were the posters on every boys wall. So what?

IjeBos:
The level of depth and self-introspection in this forum is always disappointing.
Honestly, having unpleasant thoughts about yourself is ok.
It's the start ofgrowth.
Try it.
Maybe you should introspect on the fact hat you are only able to channel this as black vs white and cope by deploying largely outdated and mostly unrelated tropes, suggests introspection is something you may benefit from.

I can see why you avoided the questions. Rest.


TV
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 3:42pm On Mar 20
bayelsaowei:
cultures would eventually be integrated over time.

It’s normal. As long as immigration continues, expect cultures to integrate into the future.

That’s the spice of life. But having turned into a right wing robót, you’re now anti integration.
If that is true, then we shouldn't have gone from stable to chaos.

When Adebowale killed Lee Rigby, he mentioned the British Army was killing their people in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Adebowale is a British-born Nigerian who grew up in the UK as a Jehovah's Witness.

Converted to Islam, suddenly his people are not Brits or Nigerians, they are Muslims, Islamists.

Christians are more tolerant, which is why you will see many Christians recognizing Eid and other religious celebrations, especially in Nigeria. They are willing to live with these people, but these people have a takeover and a hostile takeover mindset all the time. Once they have the numbers, they are going to get more emboldened. We are seeing the boldness in many countries. They are openly saying what they want to do.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 3:47pm On Mar 20
IjeBos:
Cuz we all know any criticism is hate.
But you should listen to the lyrics of the song you might find it revelelatory.

But you never answered, who is the WE you were referring to?
Your criticism is ONLY for the west, Do you actually see anything good in the west?

Which other civilization will you rather live in since you hate the West so much. WHile the West is not perfect, It is FARRRR better than any other option, We recognize that and appreciate the opportunities given to us even to ingrates like you

IjeBos:
Is Bemeruca or Basilico American or do they live in the "US"?
And for the record your views today don't even represent the views of the "West".
They are pro 'American White Christian Nationalist' views.
Its not my business to police where people say they live or how they live. Has anyone followed you home to verify where you live? And what bothers you so much about where they live. Is it jealousy envy or what. You have claimed to live word school visited. No one bothers you even when we know you were lying about it

My views is that the United state is the greatest, kindest, most accommodating civilization, which is why I chose to live there. What is yours and why is that a controversial view to you, and why dont you just move away to somewhere better
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 3:49pm On Mar 20
bemeruca:
Bayelsaowei, how do you find peace with these people?

Did you tell bayelsaowei that an Iranian missile killed Palestinian pregnant woman and children. Has he shown his outrage or his own is only when Israel defends itself
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 4:05pm On Mar 20
raumdeuter:
Did you tell bayelsaowei that an Iranian missile killed Palestinian pregnant woman and children. Has he shown his outrage or his own is only when Israel defends itself
Its not American or Jewish bomb, those lives don't matter or deserve much outrage.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PDPGuy(op): 4:06pm On Mar 20
Average TSA wait-time at the ATL airport is now 80 mins. Earlier in the day, it hit 180 mins!

Congress and Trump, please these diligent TSA workers missed their first full paycheck last Friday, you all should come to an agreement!!🤦🏽‍♂️
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 4:08pm On Mar 20
PDPGuy:
Average TSA wait-time at the ATL airport is now 80 mins. Earlier in the day, it hit 180 mins!

Congress and Trump, please these diligent TSA workers missed their first full paycheck last Friday, you all should come to an agreement!!🤦🏽‍♂️
Why are you calling Trump? The democrats are 100% responsible for this.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 4:10pm On Mar 20
TV01:
Actually I am. And you've neatly skirted my point and my posers


Care less about the song. That wasn't my entry point. Maybe they don't see "whiteness as better", just acknowledge that some societies are better ordered, are able to build and maintain functioning institutions and are more technologically advanced. Higher up the civilisational curve one might say.

They fact that they acknowledge that some countries (many white) without at once blaming (white people), for the backwardness of their own countries of origin (mostly black). Doesn't mean that they see "whiteness as superior". And, even if they do, and, you feel that they are wrong, make the point - racial slurs don't do that.

Conversely, not owning the situation in your own(black) countries and trying to unrelentingly pin it other countries\people can be seen as grifting at best.

Are the Fulani as far up the civilisational curve as the Swedes or the Australians? If not, and if it's not due to the superiority of the Swedes or the Australians, what is it down too? What about the English and the Romanians or the Albanians?

Feel free to explain causality amongst people groups, regions or countries., where race is not a factor. Once your only recourse boils down to race, race, race, you can't ever broaden the discussion or have anything other than a blinkered or ideological view.

Or riddle us this. Are the Fulani as civilisationally advanced as the Yoruba or the Igbo? Where is the colour dimension here.

Sounds mostly like your perception. Not an argument I would necessarily make, but black Americans are the most prosperous black people anywhere in the world. When I grew up in the UK , Bruce Lee, Muhammed Ali and Pelé were the posters on every boys wall. So what?


Maybe you should introspect on the fact hat you are only able to channel this as black vs white and cope by deploying largely outdated and mostly unrelated tropes, suggests introspection is something you may benefit from.

I can see why you avoided the questions. Rest.


TV
TV01:
Firstly that trope is one of your own devising - has anyone ever made that claim?
TV
This was your first post on this.
So, the view that there are black people who see whiteness as superior is one of my own devising even though Fela wrote a song about it in the 70's?
Is that not nonsensical to you?

So, ask yourself, if you were I, would you waste your time on someone who said something that silly?
The answer is no.
So, I'll respect myself and leave you to whatever rationalization you have created for people who still prostrate themselves to whiteness.
You, Basilico, Bemeruca and Raumdeuter can explore why you think Black people were better off as slaves together.
Or rationalize white people calling black people monkeys.
You know all those outdated tropes.
I'm sure it'll be some very enlightening conversation.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 4:12pm On Mar 20
raumdeuter:
Your criticism is ONLY for the west, Do you actually see anything good in the west?

Which other civilization will you rather live in since you hate the West so much. WHile the West is not perfect, It is FARRRR better than any other option, We recognize that and appreciate the opportunities given to us even to ingrates like you



Its not my business to police where people say they live or how they live. Has anyone followed you home to verify where you live? And what bothers you so much about where they live. Is it jealousy envy or what. You have claimed to live word school visited. No one bothers you even when we know you were lying about it

My views is that the United state is the greatest, kindest, most accommodating civilization, which is why I chose to live there. What is yours and why is that a controversial view to you, and why don't you just move away to somewhere better
It's because he feels he lives in heaven, a better place he does not want to share with people. He does not want others to enjoy the experience.

Let's not forget IjeBos was always brandishing his passport for authority, class, and status. Knowing how he talks about the country, one would think he should be ashamed of it.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 4:13pm On Mar 20
PDPGuy:
Average TSA wait-time at the ATL airport is now 80 mins. Earlier in the day, it hit 180 mins!

Congress and Trump, please these diligent TSA workers missed their first full paycheck last Friday, you all should come to an agreement!!🤦🏽‍♂️
Call on the Democratic lawmakers who chose to shutdown govt because of ICE when ICE has been funded till 2029 under the OBBB
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 4:14pm On Mar 20
bemeruca:
It's because he feels he lives in heaven, a better place he does not want to share with people. He does not want others to enjoy the experience.

Let's not forget IjeBos was always brandishing his passport for authority, class, and status. Knowing how he talks about the country, one would think he should be ashamed of it.
For someone to be showing his American passport and bragging about it, Do you know any form of colo mentality bigger than that
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 4:19pm On Mar 20
IjeBos:
This was your first post on this.
So, the view that there are black people who see whiteness as superior is one of my own devising even though Fela wrote a song about it in the 70's?
Is that not nonsensical to you?

So, ask yourself, if you were I, would you waste your time on someone who said something that silly?
The answer is no.
So, I'll respect myself and leave you to whatever rationalization you have created for people who still prostrate themselves to whiteness.
You, Basilico, Bemeruca and Raumdeuter can explore why you think Black people were better off as slaves together.
Or rationalize white people calling black people monkeys.
You know all those outdated tropes.
I'm sure it'll be some very enlightening conversation.
No one prostrate to whiteness more than you, You literally kneel down in front of whiteness
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 4:24pm On Mar 20
raumdeuter:
For someone to be showing his American passport and bragging about it, Do you know any form of colo mentality bigger than that
That's the irony.
He displays America more than anyone to feel important; yet he claimed the country is bad

He says whiteness and white people are bad, yet he gets on his knees for a white lollipop. Ijebos is confused.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by TV01(m):
I quoted you - the claim you made.
I don't care about Fela, his music or to know what he meant in his lyrics. You said this "You guys worship whiteness. See whiteness as better".
A specific reference to people on this thread. That is what I clearly responded to.

Over 2 posts, I asked several questions related to belief and perception. None of which you responded too. Rather you resorted to the same tired slurs - people who still prostrate themselves to whiteness.

I said in my first post that I had no expectations and gave you leave to "rest" in my second. No problem if you can't answer the questions.

Moving on. Is it true you flash your US passport and like white maidens grin


TV

IjeBos:
This was your first post on this.
So, the view that there are black people who see whiteness as superior is one of my own devising even though Fela wrote a song about it in the 70's?
Is that not nonsensical to you?

So, ask yourself, if you were I, would you waste your time on someone who said something that silly?
The answer is no.
So, I'll respect myself and leave you to whatever rationalization you have created for people who still prostrate themselves to whiteness.
You, Basilico, Bemeruca and Raumdeuter can explore why you think Black people were better off as slaves together.
Or rationalize white people calling black people monkeys.
You know all those outdated tropes.
I'm sure it'll be some very enlightening conversation.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by BreakingNews21: 5:01pm On Mar 20
bemeruca:
California knows how to waste money building infrastructures that do not work.

Project cost 50m
Gone over budget by 64m

Still nowhere near completion.
Behind schedule, they say they need another 10 to 20m to complete.

Better structures and far more complex structures have been built in less time

Forget California, the agriculture capital of the US. Me thinks Dan Bongino was heavily traumatized by what he saw and read in the PDFs. He resigned from a very prestigious and high level government job in less than one year.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 5:07pm On Mar 20
BreakingNews21:
Forget California, the agriculture capital of the US. Me thinks Dan Bongino was heavily traumatized by what he saw and read in the PDFs. He resigned from a very prestigious and high level government job in less than one year.
You think.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 5:15pm On Mar 20
TV01:
I quoted you - the claim you made.
I don't care about Fela, his music or to know what he meant in his lyrics. You said this "You guys worship whiteness. See whiteness as better".
A specific reference to people on this thread. That is what I clearly responded to.

Over 2 posts, I asked several questions related to belief and pereption. None of which you responded too. Rather you resorted to the same tired slurs - people who still prostrate themselves to whiteness.

I said in my first post that I had no expectations and gave you leave to "rest" in my second. No problem if you can't answer the questions.

Moving on. Is it true you flash your US passport and like white maidens grin


TV
So you've never heard colo-mentality or that someone is still mentally colonized?
You're still not doing yourself any favors.

The passports I flash.
Don't have white girlfriends, in fact the large percentage of the women I've dated have been Nigerian.

Unfortunately, I don't see whiteness as special like you lot.
I'm proud of my identity. All of it.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 5:22pm On Mar 20
TV01:
I quoted you -
Moving on. Is it true you flash your US passport and like white maidens grin


TV
IjeBos date men. The women he referenced are all imaginary. Some of them lives in Nigeria, some in London but never the US 😂

The one in Nigeria has butlers and 5 cooks yet when he goes to Nigeria he stays in a hotel where he complains of runs girls loitering around 😂😂😂

The guy is a case. He will be clicking 60 soon.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 5:30pm On Mar 20
IjeBos:
So you've never heard colo-mentality or that someone is still mentally colonized?
You're still not doing yourself any favors.

The passports I flash.
Don't have white girlfriends, in fact the large percentage of the women I've dated have been Nigerian.

Unfortunately, I don't see whiteness as special like you lot.
I'm proud of my identity. All of it.
This same you?
https://www.nairaland.com/4508641/american-politics-thread-trump-47th/4121#129507227

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 5:39pm On Mar 20
raumdeuter:
Only cookoo people will be asking such questions and you have shown you are no better than the Fuentes MTG Candace etc. When you start aligning with lunatic antisemite that normal people use for laughs and giggles then you have to start questioning your life choices

BTW did you check if Netanyahu had 17 fingers in that press conference, if it was AI, if he had 5 necks

Pls go on. Remember we who knew you when you were sane alerted you to the TDS that was taking over your soul
You are really working overtime on a simple question. See how hurt you are, because I am looking for Netanyahu. Why are you so bothered?

Who give you job Mr Man?

Meanwhile, I went to the Netanyahu coffee shop to see if I could find him... guess who I found there?

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by TV01(m): 5:44pm On Mar 20
raumdeuter:
This same you?
https://www.nairaland.com/4508641/american-politics-thread-trump-47th/4121#129507227
Can tell stories - tales by moonlight, can't answer questions. grin


TV

DeepSight, where are you. I'd like to troll you. As you can tell, I 'm bored. Have you gotten over your crush on me? cool
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m):
Double post repeated below.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 5:54pm On Mar 20
DeepSight:
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Crush ke? Troll away.

My issue with you was two things, one was a sort of broad claim you made that I was nasty to people over the Gaza issue (and that was not really an issue as you are entitled to that opinion, I know I can be strident). But the second one was unbelievable: your claim that Tommy Robinson is not racist/.

But ride on.
I bet even the wall at your backyard is a racist right now 😂😂

Goodlawd.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 6:05pm On Mar 20
TV01:
DeepSight, where are you. I'd like to troll you. As you can tell, I 'm bored. Have you gotten over your crush on me? cool
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Crush ke? Troll away.

My issue with you was two things, one was a sort of broad claim you made that I was nasty to people over the Gaza issue (and that was not really an issue as you are entitled to that opinion, I know I can be strident). But the second one was unbelievable: your claim that Tommy Robinson is not racist/.

But ride on.

Care less about the song. That wasn't my entry point. Maybe they don't see "whiteness as better", just acknowledge that some societies are better ordered, are able to build and maintain functioning institutions and are more technologically advanced. Higher up the civilisational curve one might say.
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Without a doubt some societies are more advanced than others and there are many reasons for this. Understanding those reasons should actually help people be less, not more racist. Racist people often think that its a factor of racial superiority (tribalistic / xenophobic people / ethnic chauvnists - also think the same way).

However the matter is a complex one of deep history, environment, geography, climate, trade, wars and conquests, chance, the butterfly effect, and much much more. Even flora and fauna count.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 6:07pm On Mar 20
raumdeuter:
This same you?
https://www.nairaland.com/4508641/american-politics-thread-trump-47th/4121#129507227
So, it's not that you can't read the words, it's that you don't understand them.
Point out where I said she was my girlfriend.
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