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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by TV01(m): 4:26pm On Mar 21
budaatum:
Tommy Robinson hating muslims because of what a muslim may have done to a family member if his is the equivalent of hating black people because one black person killed his family. That's ignorant and discriminatory!

If you hate Muslims because of your hatred of Islam, then you are prejudiced against Muslims and that's Islamophobia. It's the equivalent of racephobia, the hatred of people because of their race, just that your hate is because of others religion.
Ideologues can never argue straight or debate honestly. You quoted part of my post and tried to slur me undecided. Your inability to deploy canned tropes and resort to slurs in defence is what makes you uniteresting. I said this

I love muslims, and like many have muslim family members. Islam is a blight on the world!
I hate Islam. It is a blight on humanity and has, and only can lead to death and destruction.

Where is the evidence for TR being a racist or hating muslims?


TV
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by happney65: 4:35pm On Mar 21
Trumpy,Gympty.. grin

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 4:38pm On Mar 21
bemeruca:
Full condemnation we don't see. The voice is loud when Israel and US is involved, the condemnation is so silent when Hamas or Iran are doing it.

You said you condemn it. I believe you, one can tell you are one of the few good people on the left in this thread. The problem is your bias and disdain for the right, trump and Israel. This makes you say a lot of asinine things that does not make sense.

But no matter how you see it, war is ugly, innocent people will die which is why Iran should be seeking peace just the way Egypt and Jordan and Saudi Arabia, UAE did with Israel.
the reason why I am after the right and Isreal is its cunning cloak of purity and holiness whilst meting out extrajudicial attacks and killings. If Isreal and other blood thirsty individuals want to kill people, just kill them and accept the evilness inside of them with their full chest. Don’t come out to patronize folks. Information is now available to everyone.

Isreal can’t continue to scream victimization whilst turning others into victims.

You murder innocent people, you are condemned. That’s it.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 4:56pm On Mar 21
happney65:
Trumpy,Gympty.. grin
Maganuts will find a way to excuse this
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 5:03pm On Mar 21
TV01:
Iran that has been chest-beating and sabre-rattling for almost 50 years. And, are hell-bent on destroying the US and Israel. Funding the 3H proxy militias and sponsoring tear.roar.rism worldwide - even in Nigeria.

Animated by an apocalyptic ee-slam-hic vision that demands adherent precipitate the end-times. They will never retreat, and persist in doing everything within their power to actualise what they believe to be divine writ.

Their participation in treaty discussions are always a ruse - to buy time until they can realise their evil desire.

No believer wants to see children or anyone dead. Christians believe all men are created in Gods image and are of inestimable worth. ROPers will birth for the express purposes of producing martyrs and raise their children to think killing unbelievers is loving God.


TV
Lies and conjecture. Talking points of the West and Maganuts.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 5:05pm On Mar 21
bemeruca:
But no matter how you see it, war is ugly, innocent people will die which is why Iran should be seeking peace just the way Egypt and Jordan and Saudi Arabia, UAE did with Israel.
Iran should be seeking peace? Hehehe.

Why?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 5:11pm On Mar 21
TV01:
Of course there are reasons. There are always reasons, as for pretty much everything. And yes, I have my beliefs, but they remain under wraps for now, because the ask is, not why Nigeria (and as a metaphor for most black nations) are way down on whatever civilisational scale one chooses to use. One could circle that mountain forever, but to what effect?

The ask is how and when they will clearly start to ascend the curve and move forward? If anything they appear to be regressing...Somali incoming!!! I'll accept references to the why, only if they somehow colour the what, when and how. Long\short, I don't want excuses as to why the country is a basket-case, I want to know what will be done to attain basic societal order.

On this same thread I asked the same pointed questions to the Saffa Lionesza? Who claimed that SA was built by both it's black and white citizens. The asks where 1. what exactly did black SA contribute (and I don't mean heavy lifting) to the development of SA and 2. And now that SA has transitioned to black-majority rule , why is the country spiralling downwards and what are the black SA ruling class going to do to reverse and, at a minimum restore SA to what it was less than 2 generations ago. Over 3 responses, I got waffle, then a slur, then a hasty exit.

As for corruption? I'm a British patriot and I am certain that most of our political class and lot's of our elite are not only corrupt, they are also perverse. Please, let's not dellect.


TV
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I am willing to have a proper conversation, however not one in which well researched and pertinent scientific and historical facts are dismissed with a handwave as excuses.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by BreakingNews21: 5:21pm On Mar 21
bayelsaowei:
See múmú.

So because of Hamas the IDF is justified for killing women and children. And you have a mother and probably sisters .

You’re absolutely môroníc.
During the height of the Oct 7th occupation Hamas ppl were seen looking very well nourished and with clean costumes on while the Palestinians were being starved and looked totally wretched. I always thought Hamas were Israeli proxies. I recall reading something about former PLO leader Yasser Arafat being a double agent.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 5:24pm On Mar 21
bayelsaowei:
the reason why I am after the right and Isreal is its cunning cloak of purity and holiness whilst meting out extrajudicial attacks and killings. If Isreal and other blood thirsty individuals want to kill people, just kill them and accept the evilness inside of them with their full chest. Don’t come out to patronize folks. Information is now available to everyone.

Isreal can’t continue to scream victimization whilst turning others into victims.

You murder innocent people, you are condemned. That’s it.
You keep talking nonsense. How can you have issues with Israel defending itself. The reason Gaza is like that it's because they are hungry for blood. Same with Iran. Israel has always defended themselves. The attack on the Houthis was because the Houthis were bombing them. Prior to that, Israel has never bombed the Houthis even as the know the Houthis are part of Iran's axis of resistance.

You are projecting victimhood on Israel and calling them the aggressor at the same time. Israel is neither of those. They have been the victims for many years and they have adapted. The holocaust was the final straw.

You’re shifting the problem from violence to presentation.
Evil doesn’t become more acceptable just because it’s honest.
So which one do you actually care about the killing, or the narrative around it?


If isrsel openly embraces brutality somehow that’s more honest and therefore less offensive?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 5:29pm On Mar 21
budaatum:
Tommy Robinson hating muslims because of what a muslim may have done to a family member if his is the equivalent of hating black people because one black person killed his family. That's ignorant and discriminatory!

If you hate Muslims because of your hatred of Islam, then you are prejudiced against Muslims and that's Islamophobia. It's the equivalent of racephobia, the hatred of people because of their race, just that your hate is because of others religion.
Someone hating Islam does not mean the hate Muslims too. Islam is an ideology, a religion. Who cares about Islamophobia?

Why is there no name for people who hate Christianity? Or Hindus etc?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 5:33pm On Mar 21
Bill Clinton is telling you exactly what us happening bayelsaowei. They rejected everything because they want it all.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:42pm On Mar 21
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This isn't an algorithm glitch. It's deliberate suppression. Google reaches hundreds of millions and chooses to starve them of balanced views, pushing the left's narrative while pretending to be neutral.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:49pm On Mar 21
TV01:
Ideologues can never argue straight or debate honestly. You quoted part of my post and tried to slur me undecided. Your inability to deploy canned tropes and resort to slurs in defence is what makes you uniteresting. I said this



I hate Islam. It is a blight on humanity and has, and only can lead to death and destruction.

Where is the evidence for TR being a racist or hating muslims?


TV
Most Muslims are OK.. The really devout ones are antisemitic and are the most likely to one day be suicide bombers. They are "made' in mosques. The good ones are the ones who I call ignorant and just want to live their lives like everyone else.
Granted most of Islamic preaching is about the superiority of their religion , the abhorrence of those who don't accept it and a special damnation of Jews.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by drisham(m): 5:58pm On Mar 21
nateevs:
Iran should be seeking peace? Hehehe.

Why?
Good evening sir
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 6:04pm On Mar 21
TV01:
Ideologues can never argue straight or debate honestly. You quoted part of my post and tried to slur me undecided. Your inability to deploy canned tropes and resort to slurs in defence is what makes you uniteresting. I said this
I hate Islam. It is a blight on humanity and has, and only can lead to death and destruction.
Where is the evidence for TR being a racist or hating muslims?
TV
I think you let your emotions rule you. See how you create reasons, "can never argue straight or debate honestly. You quoted part of my post and tried to slur me", to avoid your own reasoning.

How can I possibly slur you when anyone I presumably slur you before could easily go back and read your full post? Or don't you have faith readers of this thread will do that? TV01, Do you believe those on here labelling others gay pdf are slurring those they think they slur or are they not just showing themselves for what they are? Do you think I am so stupid that I think I can slur you by doing something so obvious like that with the intent to slur you without knowing it slurs me much more?

I did not slur you. I simply quoted the part of your post that I wanted to refer to. Those who read me, since my response to you is not only to be read by you, know very well that I do that, so please stop victimising yourself.

Also, I am arguing honestly. I have no reason not to. But if you think my argument is not straight or that I debate dishonestly then simply contest my argument and debate with your own honest and straight argument and debate and trust that the dark will be conquered with light.

I love muslims, and like many have muslim family members. Islam is a blight on the world!
The adoption of Islam is what makes people muslims. It's an ideologie they adopt and it's their behaviour that you judge, I hope, and not just what they believe in their heads, which is why you can say the above without reasoning it through, I dare say.

If you hate Islam, TV01, you'd hate your Islamic family members too. But I don't think you hate Islam. You just dislike the behaviour of some who claim they are doing what they do because of Islam, I put to you.

I hate bokoharam. I do not support their kidnapping and terrorising, and I want them wiped off the face of the earth. They are not muslims and their ideology is not Islamic. I hate far right groups too, especially British ones, because of their ideology. But I still sit and drink In far right pubs since I don't particularly hate far right people, and even love sticking my black ass in their face and watch how incapable they are of being racist to me. Golly! I'm a Millwall fan. We were notorious for far rightism, lol, and I'm as left as left is, but know, I wouldn't go and watch football with bokoharam.

Do recognise, like I do, that whatever evidence one provides for you will never prove to you that TR is the equivalent of racist towards Muslims and a criminal and much worse. I dislike him only because of the ideology he promotes and what some are going on to do because of it, and because history, of which,here is some personal neighbourly history that I think it unwise not to learn from because, they are now increasingly going for Muslims just like they went for jews.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 6:13pm On Mar 21
bemeruca:
Someone hating Islam does not mean the hate Muslims too. Islam is an ideology, a religion. Who cares about Islamophobia?

Why is there no name for people who hate Christianity? Or Hindus etc?
No it doesn't necessarily need to be that Someone hating Islam means they hate Muslims too, but if your hatred for Islam now makes you advocate for policies, like the visa denial to people who claim to be Islamic and therefore Muslims that some of you have promoted here, then I do care about your Islamophobia enough to challenge you so your policy is not adopted.

The lack of knowledge of a concept or thing does not deexist the thing nor concept.

Christianophobia or Christophobia, and Hinduphobia.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 6:28pm On Mar 21
budaatum:
No it doesn't necessarily need to be that Someone hating Islam means they hate Muslims too, but if your hatred for Islam now makes you advocate for policies, like the visa denial to people who claim to be Islamic and therefore Muslims that some of you have promoted here, then I do care about your Islamophobia enough to challenge you so your policy is not adopted.

The lack of knowledge of a concept or thing does not deexist the thing nor concept.

Christianophobia or Christophobia, and Hinduphobia.
If anyone holds and ideology that is a security risk, then Visa from people with that ideology should be scrutinized.

The risk is the ideology, the ideology forms and identity. It is not Islamophobia
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 6:51pm On Mar 21
The President of the US folks.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Konkoja: 7:05pm On Mar 21
It is a shame, what a souless ghoul.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:05pm On Mar 21
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“Is Dominion able to remotely connect to these election systems?”
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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Konkoja: 7:06pm On Mar 21
IjeBos:
The President of the US folks.
It is a shame, what a soulless ghoul.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 7:09pm On Mar 21
Konkoja:
It is a shame, what a soulless ghoul.
IjeBos:
The President of the US folks.
And then they turn around demanding people be fired and arrested for not mourning their podcaster who was killed.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PDPGuy(op): 7:48pm On Mar 21
Obama agreed to $1.3 billion in sanctions relief for Iran as part of a deal that prevented both an Iranian nuke and a war.

Trump withdrew from the deal, started a war that will likely result in Iran obtaining a nuke, and gave Iran $14 billion in sanctions relief.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GloriousGbola: 8:03pm On Mar 21
PDPGuy:
Obama agreed to $1.3 billion in sanctions relief for Iran as part of a deal that prevented both an Iranian nuke and a war.

Trump withdrew from the deal, started a war that will likely result in Iran obtaining a nuke, and gave Iran $14 billion in sanctions relief.
They call it the art of the deal.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 8:04pm On Mar 21
bemeruca:
If anyone holds and ideology that is a security risk, then Visa from people with that ideology should be scrutinized.

The risk is the ideology, the ideology forms and identity. It is not Islamophobia
Did you read where TV01 said "I love muslims, and like many have muslim family members"? Maybe learn from him that many of us know Muslims and have muslim family members who do not have the ideology you call a security risk and want to scrutinise for.

Think of this. A person who is prejudiced against white people says, "I don't mind the color of their skin, it is their ideology I don't like". He then passes a policy to test the ideology of white people. Is that racist or not, or colorist, to be more specific. And is it not reprehensible behaviour?

The simple difference with Islamophobia is you can't tell by color. So you ask me, and when I tell you, you start your discrimination. I mean, if I want to be sarcastic, you'd send me to Guantanamo Bay for assessment for risking security just because I worship Allah!

To be sincere with you, you really ought to look in your mirror to learn what an inquisitor is. It will be very ignorant of me who knows about it to advocate for it today. And it's even more ignorant to advocate for it knowing those I'm advocating it to know about it too. I think one might look silly.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 8:06pm On Mar 21
He should add the Nigerian army too..

Insaníty

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 8:12pm On Mar 21
PDPGuy:
Obama agreed to $1.3 billion in sanctions relief for Iran as part of a deal that prevented both an Iranian nuke and a war.

Trump withdrew from the deal, started a war that will likely result in Iran obtaining a nuke, and gave Iran $14 billion in sanctions relief.
Not to mention the billion dollars a day it’s costing Americans. Plus the dead and the wounded.

No one is talking about the wounded.

20+ year old kids who will never use their limbs again. For no fvkcing reason. Not like we were attacked and they had to go fight to defend the country. There was absolutely no reason for any of this except to appease Satanyahoo.

Fvkc Trump and anyone who supports him!!!!!!!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 8:17pm On Mar 21
RIP. When republicans used to have a few honorable people in their midst. All that’s gone now.

Not just a former Fox News Host - Robert Mueller was an American lawyer who served as the sixth director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) from 2001 to 2013.
A graduate of Princeton University and New York University, Mueller served as a Marine Corps officer during the Vietnam War, receiving a Bronze Star for heroism and a Purple Heart. He subsequently attended the University of Virginia School of Law. Mueller was a registered Republican in Washington, D.C.,[1] and was appointed and reappointed to Senate-confirmed positions by presidents George H. W. Bush, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, and Barack Obama. Rest in honor sir 🇺🇸🇺🇸
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 8:27pm On Mar 21
bemeruca:
If anyone holds and ideology that is a security risk, then Visa from people with that ideology should be scrutinized.

The risk is the ideology, the ideology forms and identity. It is not Islamophobia
I agree with the bold. The word "if" implies you know i have such an ideology, perhaps because you have evidence of me yelling "I am a security risk". In that case arrest me and Guantanamo bay my ass.

But you then say, "The risk is the ideology, the ideology forms and identity", meaning you want to Guantanamo bay me because I adopt a ideology of Allah worship?

Sorry ben, but I can only smirk at you, and need to let you know that further responses to this your reasoning would be me trolling you because I haven't better things to do.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by armyofone(m): 8:40pm On Mar 21
Konkoja:
It is a shame, what a soulless ghoul.
They used to say keep bad opinions of a dead person to yourself- but this one doesn't know the adage undecided

Mueller was one of the people I admired.
May he rest in peace.
SemperFi to a true spartan!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by armyofone(m): 8:43pm On Mar 21
raumdeuter:
That was in December we bought 1.99. We are buying for over $3 now. Still cheaper than under Biden
$1.99 in Dec

$3.00 in February grin

$3.99 in March grin cheesy

Hope you have a good job mallam grin
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