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Eldeedon:
Exactly!! That's one thing I noticed about those people, they are too proud! And that's one of the things I hate about them personally. And don't forget what the Bible said about having pride.

The Bible warns that pride often comes before trouble or destruction.

Proverbs 16:18
“Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall.”

👉 Meaning: When someone becomes too proud or overconfident, it often leads to mistakes or failure.

It was when I was about to disassociate, I realised why when in the meetings members are told to be humble always.

1. I saw how their religious leaders and organisation through their systems of teaching made them arrogant and proud because they are made to think and believe that their religious organisation is the only one doing the right thing and have God's backing.

Through this kind of pathetic knowledge, every other Christian denominations are demeaned as false Christians and worldly people.

2. Their religious leaders asking them to be humble is also another means their religious leaders make them continue to be like slaves or remain subservient and continue to get unquestionable obedience.

Emusan:
The most astonish part is that they used scripture to condemned taking Blood, which scripture will be used to support taking Blood.

That's the question they can never answer!

They can never never provide answers to those questions just like many asked earlier, what bible support the taking of some certain fractions and others cannot be taken

chimex38:
You better present it to him this way. That's how he mostly engages discuss.

"Was it written in the Bible that Blood shouldn't be used for treatment of ailment?"
YES OR NO?
Choose One

He will answer the question with question. Don't mind the junk

MaxInDHouse:
That's exactly what you supposed to say since nah but your own pastors are not students of the Bible o unlike the Governing Body that's always saying:

"We are studying the Bible"

So it's from what the holy spirit teaches them that we gain knowledge about the next thing to do.

I hope your own church can present a single achievement despite all your tithe and offering regarding preaching and teaching work
Jesus assigned to his disciples which JWs are globally known for! Matthew 28:19-20🙂

@boldeds..lol..
then why get triggered?
and still put up a smiling emoji?

femi4:
He will answer the question with question. Don't mind the junk

Just like someone did for faithless Jews in the first century:

After he went into the temple, the chief priests and the elders of the people came up to him while he was teaching and said: “By what authority do you do these things? And who gave you this authority?”  In reply Jesus said to them: “I will also ask you one thing. If you tell me, then I will also tell you by what authority I do these things:  The baptism by John, from what source was it? From heaven or from men?” But they began to reason among themselves, saying: “If we say, ‘From heaven,’ he will say to us, ‘Why, then, did you not believe him?’ But if we say, ‘From men,’ we have the crowd to fear, for they all regard John as a prophet.” So they answered Jesus: “We do not know.” He, in turn, said to them: “Neither am I telling you by what authority I do these things". Matthew 21:23-27

So if you who came asking me questions when i'm not interested to engage you won't answer abeg dey your dey!😀

chimex38:
@boldeds..lol..
then why get triggered?
and still put up a smiling emoji?

What do you mean by triggered?
I just dey take unah dey pass time natin wey unah fit do.

If you have no faith it's better we crack jokes nah!🤣

chimex38:
"After much prayer and study of the scripture, the Governor Body has come to conclusion...".

So this statement was actually made?


we're all students of the Bible lass lass..
let nobody claim to have figured out everything.

For the Governing Body member to make that statement The Governing Body have decided means the Governing Body decides everything about JW. It has nothing to do with God Almighty.

achorladey:
They don't want to agree that covid 19 was the real deal that exposes the facade behind the organisation

Yes COVID was their biggest enemy. Many JWs admit that lots of their members fell out and left during this period.

chimex38:
@boldeds..lol..
then why get triggered?
and still put up a smiling emoji?

The smiling emoji is to cover up the shame his Governing Body has caused him.

Emusan:
The most astonish part is that they used scripture to condemned taking Blood, which scripture will be used to support taking Blood.

That's the question they can never answer!

Very good question. Where is it in the Bible that they are allowed to now transfuse their own blood? If you watch the video, their Governing Body member never mentioned any.

Courz:
For the Governing Body member to make that statement The Governing Body have decided means the Governing Body decides everything about JW. It has nothing to do with God Almighty.

What you lack is FAITH.

See the way the first century Governing Body tabled their decision:

For the holy spirit and we ourselves have favored adding no further burden to you except these necessary things: to keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols, from blood, from what is strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you carefully keep yourselves from these things, you will prosper. Good health to you!” Act 15:28-29

Of course if you were there back then you'll say it has nothing to do with the Almighty God because our brothers will never ever yield to your faithless noisemaking but stick to what those taking the lead among them decides! Hebrews 13:7🙂

MaxInDHouse:
What my Bible said is:
"abstain from blood" Act 15:29🙂

But the context is clear sir…as in.. cant u see the context??…..its a dietary instruction, it has nothing to do with medical intervention….

Im shocked at how ur organisation interprets basic scripture throwing context away

MaxInDHouse:
What you lack is FAITH.

See the way the first century Governing Body tabled their decision:

For the holy spirit and we ourselves have favored adding no further burden to you except these necessary things: to keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols, from blood, from what is strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you carefully keep yourselves from these things, you will prosper. Good health to you!” Act 15:28-29

Of course if you were there back then you'll say it has nothing to do with the Almighty God because our brothers will never ever yield to your faithless noisemaking but stick to what those taking the lead among them decides! Hebrews 13:7🙂

No need for all these jargons. Your Governing Body has disgraced you Jehovah's Witnesses once again. We told you back then, didn't we? We told you that you will be disgraced. Lol.

Even many News stations carried this news in The U.S. increasing the shame for Jehovah's Witnesses. Worldwide disgrace. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

achorladey:
To know their religious leaders categorically tell them they don't need to do the thinking and opposed independent thinking says a lot of the kind of religious organisation under scrutiny here.

Well, I wouldn't say they don't think, I have met good ones, they evangelize a lot, I believe it helps build depth in Bible and reasoning like other churches that evangelize.

I am more concered about those who may have arrived at this on their own via "prayers and study" but dismissed or probably shunned before the governing body's pronouncement recently.


I believe all religious bodies adjust their doctrines from time to time, so it's not JW specific.
Just that this case involves life and they seem slow to adjust like the beard case.

[quote author=advanceDNA post=138846797]it has nothing to do with medical intervention…./quote]

 For the holy spirit and we ourselves have favored adding no further burden to you except these necessary things: to keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols, from blood, from what is strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you carefully keep yourselves from these things, you will prosper. Good health to you! Act 15:28-29

Are you sure it has nothing to do with medical intervention?

Perhaps it's time to lecture most of you on the importance of food because it's clear you people don't know that food is the medicine for hunger.🙂

Courz:
No need for all these jargons. Your Governing Body has disgraced you Jehovah's Witnesses once again. We told you back then, didn't we? We told you that you will be disgraced. Lol.

OK God's word is jargons shey?
Thank you Sir!🤣

MaxInDHouse:
OK God's word is jargons shey?
Thank you Sir!🤣

We warned you. But you never listened. Here you are looking like a f00l. Look at you. Your Governing Body takes you JWs to be idi0ts. This is how they allowed millions to die. All for what? Absolutely nothing. Just because a bunch of Freemasons told y'all not to take blood to please their gods. Who will God take to be responsible for the millions of JWs that have died? What do you think God will do to them on judgement day??

Don't worry jàre since God's word means jagons to you!🤣

Courz:
We warned you. But you never listened. Here you are looking like a f00l. Look at you. Your Governing Body takes you JWs to be idi0ts. This is how they allowed millions to die. All for what? Absolutely nothing. Just because a bunch of Freemasons told y'all not to take blood to please their gods. Who will God take to be responsible for the millions of JWs that have died? What do you think God will do to them on judgement day??

MaxInDHouse:
Don't worry jàre since God's word means jagons to you!🤣

We warned you. But you never listened. Here you are looking like a f00l. Look at you. Your Governing Body takes you JWs to be idi0ts. This is how they allowed millions to die. All for what? Absolutely nothing. Just because a bunch of Freemasons told y'all not to take blood to please their gods. Who will God take to be responsible for the millions of JWs that have died? What do you think God will do to them on judgement day??

oroje1:
See you now! Who told you Japanese and Chinese are not religious?.,,have you heard of the Shinto, Buddhism, confucianism and Hinduism before? Where do they come from? People still practice these religions in these places,ok? And I no know say you dey your bedroom know the secret lives of Bill Gates and co..abeg say what you know...One truth stands whether you agree or not.in a very difficult situation in life ,a religious person ( of the true religion though) fares better,,,you know why? They have hope, they're optimistic, they're always positive and not leaving things to blind chance.cos God is real.. whether u gree or not.

You are mentioning the religion of China and Japan that is their own identity hahahah
So it means they are worshipping gods that look like them and the gods of their ancestors

But black man for Africa Dey worship Jew and Arab

MaxInDHouse:
OK God's word is jargons shey?
Thank you Sir!🤣

Bro sorry to say, those words are not God's words, I can tell you those words are words from your governing bodies.

These are what the Bible says concerning God's word:

1. God’s Word is truth

John 17:17
“Sanctify them by the truth; your word is truth.”

👉 Meaning: God’s Word is completely reliable and trustworthy—it doesn’t mislead.

2. God’s Word gives direction in life

Psalms 119:105
“Your word is a lamp to my feet and a light to my path.”

👉 Meaning: It helps guide your decisions and shows the right way to live.

3.God’s Word will never fail

Isaiah 55:11
“So is my word… it will not return to me empty, but will accomplish what I desire.”

👉 Meaning: Whatever God says will happen—His Word always fulfills its purpose.

4. God’s Word is eternal

Matthew 24:35
“Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.”

👉 Meaning: Everything else may change, but God’s Word remains forever.

God's words can never keep changing from time to time all in the name of the light is getting brighter.. that means you are indirectly calling call a liar, when the Bible have already made it clear to us!

See, what you guys are doing are just misinterpretation that will favor your doctrine that just it.. twist and bend the Bible for your own selfish gain. Just to make other looks bad.

At least every man identifies with something...what else do you identify with?

Omoawoke:
You are mentioning the religion of China and Japan that is their own identity hahahah
So it means they are worshipping gods that look like them and the gods of their ancestors

But black man for Africa Dey worship Jew and Arab

Honesty is what you need!

The way of faith is not a perfect journey to Paradise otherwise Jesus won't have said the gate that opens the way to true life is narrow. And the road that leads there is hard to follow. Only a few people find it. Matthew 7:14

Faith comes with challenges because it's imperfect humans like you that God will use to lead you there so humility and righteousness is required on your part {Zephaniah 2:2-3} if the Apostles were perfect in everything they were doing in the first century do you think all first century Jews won't follow them?

Well you've said it all faithless people will never see reason with faith to them faithful people are deluded so they will choose whatever they want to believe hence they can't be truly dedicated to any gathering. 2Thessalonians 3:2

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are the one and only true Christians that's why all these faithless people are coming here to say one thing or another against us and as for life this is not the real one intended by God {1Timothy 6:19} that is why Jesus said whoever loose his life while sticking to him will get it back! Matthew 10:39
Ọmọ you no fit see Jesus o but you will see his brothers whom he has handed over his flocks to.
Of course faithless people will call them names but wise people will know that they are not dumb as many thinks because while talking to them you will know that they fully understand what they stands for! 2Corinthians 1:23

May you have peace!🙂

chimex38:
Well, I wouldn't say they don't think, I have met good ones, they evangelize a lot, I believe it helps build depth in Bible and reasoning like other churches that evangelize. I am more concered about those who may have arrived at this on their own via "prayers and study" but dismissed or probably shunned before the governing body's pronouncement recently. I believe all religious bodies adjust their doctrines from time to time, so it's not JW specific. Just that this case involves life and they seem slow to adjust like the beard case.

What's your own identify?

Omoawoke:
You are mentioning the religion of China and Japan that is their own identity hahahah
So it means they are worshipping gods that look like them and the gods of their ancestors

But black man for Africa Dey worship Jew and Arab

achorladey:
It was when I was about to disassociate, I realised why when in the meetings members are told to be humble always.

1. I saw how their religious leaders and organisation through their systems of teaching made them arrogant and proud because they are made to think and believe that their religious organisation is the only one doing the right thing and have God's backing.
.
Through this kind of pathetic knowledge, every other Christian denominations are demeaned as false Christians and worldly people.

2. Their religious leaders asking them to be humble is also another means their religious leaders make them continue to be like slaves or remain subservient and continue to get unquestionable obedience.

I guess you made a point in your No. 1 point.
Thats probably what triggered MaxInDHous to quote my comment with attack even when fact was stated.

They probably believe they know everything already as "experts" of the Bible and shouldnt be joined with others as "students" of the Bible.
But all bodies adjust laws and doctrines from time to time.


I tend to agree, some of their members seem more attached to their religion and governing body than the Bible itself.
Doesn't help for a wholesome and open discuss.

Eldeedon:
Bro sorry to say, those words are not God's words, I can tell you those words are words from your governing bodies.

Jesus handed over to imperfect leaders so they are bound to make mistakes but regarding whatever decision they make Jesus said :

"Whatever you may bind on earth will already be bound in the heavens, and whatever you may loosen on earth will already be loosened in the heavens.” Matthew 16:19

As long as they are fulfilling what God promised in the Bible which is gathering faithful people throughout the earth and making them preachers and teachers of the Good News {Matthew 28'19-20} whatever they bind in their decision is bound in heaven o!

So if you feel their mistakes mean what they utter out of their mouth after they have prayed is not from God then you are on your own because they are the ones God is using to do His work today!🙂

Courz:
The smiling emoji is to cover up the shame his Governing Body has caused him.

I only just made a generalized statement..

chimex38:
Some of their members seem more attached to their religion and governing body than the Bible itself.
Doesn't help for a wholesome and open discuss.

Ọmọ if you think there is anything in the Bible that can help you in this end time i pity you because Jesus has handed over his flock to them due to their honesty {Luke 12:42-44} that is why you can't see any religion call it whatever you want that could fulfill what the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses are achieving globally with those under their supervision! 🙂

chimex38:
I guess you made a point in your No. 1 point.
Thats probably what triggered MaxInDHous to quote my comment with attack even when fact was stated.

They probably believe they know everything already as "experts" of the Bible and shouldnt be joined with others as "students" of the Bible.
But all bodies adjust laws and doctrines from time to time.


I tend to agree, some of their members seem more attached to their religion and governing body than the Bible itself.
Doesn't help for a wholesome and open discuss.

That's it, the arrogance they show is to make others feel and know that they are not ready to learn from others but others should bow to learn from them

Eldeedon:
Bro sorry to say, those words are not God's words, I can tell you those words are words from your governing bodies.

These are what the Bible says concerning God's word:

1. God’s Word is truth

John 17:17
“Sanctify them by the truth; your word is truth.”

👉 Meaning: God’s Word is completely reliable and trustworthy—it doesn’t mislead.

2. God’s Word gives direction in life

Psalms 119:105
“Your word is a lamp to my feet and a light to my path.”

👉 Meaning: It helps guide your decisions and shows the right way to live.

3.God’s Word will never fail

Isaiah 55:11
“So is my word… it will not return to me empty, but will accomplish what I desire.”

👉 Meaning: Whatever God says will happen—His Word always fulfills its purpose.

4. God’s Word is eternal

Matthew 24:35
“Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.”

👉 Meaning: Everything else may change, but God’s Word remains forever.

God's words can never keep changing from time to time all in the name of the light is getting brighter.. that means you are indirectly calling call a liar, when the Bible have already made it clear to us!

See, what you guys are doing are just misinterpretation that will favor your doctrine that just it.. twist and bend the Bible for your own selfish gain. Just to make other looks bad.

Sweet

Courz:
The smiling emoji is to cover up the shame his Governing Body has caused him.

Loooooool