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Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by 2mch(m): 10:57am On Mar 22
MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted is what all JWs believe.

Blood transfusion doesn't save but kills because the blood from someone else will never ever work perfectly with your own body so when this new update came in it makes the scriptural guidance more logical because it's your own blood not that of someone else!🙂
JWs don’t believe it. They do it because it is church doctrine and they are afraid of being shunned by their church. If you go to Reddit you will see that people who lost their children and loved ones because of such doctrine are getting ready to sue your church. Also, when every JW had rejected blood, they mentioned their doctrine as the reason why. Even if you try to remove the church from this false doctrine, it cannot escape the lawsuit that is coming.

Blood transfusion has saved millions of lives. Transfused blood as long as it’s same blood type as yours has never been rejected and it has made so many live a very long and healthy life.
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:00am On Mar 22
2mch:
Blood transfusion has saved millions of lives.
Emotions and facts differs!
Millions have died, tens of millions are now suffering and millions will still die due to blood transfusion because it's not right to have someone's else blood in your body!🙂
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by 2mch(m): 11:01am On Mar 22
MaxInDHouse:
Abstain from blood is what the Bible says. Act 15:28-29

But then does it includes your own blood?

That's what we are talking about now!🙂
Abstain from murder and sacrifice is not the same as blood transfusion. Since Jehovah Witness eat meat, they don’t abstain from blood so that argument is ridiculous. Red meat and even fish is full of blood.
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Kenobsky(m): 11:04am On Mar 22
Since I received blood transfusion I started behaving not like my former self,I cont come against it,but it has its spiritual side.
JW are hypocrites I can never trust them.
Anything else with this people is devilish.
To fetch your blood and bring it back is still transfusion.
What a cult?
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by 2mch(m): 11:06am On Mar 22
MaxInDHouse:
Emotions and facts differs!
Millions have died, tens of millions are now suffering and millions will still die due to blood transfusion because it's not right to have someone's else blood in your body!🙂
You are still believing the fake story your church was spreading. If millions died, why is it now Ok to transfuse bloodhuh Because it saves lives. Whether it’s yours or not. The evidence shows blood transfusion saves lives and the JW have changed their laws because the acknowledge their prior ignorance which has cost the gullible their life.

Your own blood indeed. Better leave that cult alone and free yourself from confusion and premature death. Transfusing your own blood will require a lot of money and special storage which you in Nigeria can never access. In case of emergency, you will be left to die because where will you get blood?
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Lukuluku69(m): 11:06am On Mar 22
Trendie247:
A NEPA staff who was electrocuted in 2023 had his both arms amputated because he refused blood transfusion based on this same belief. I wonder how he's going to feel now with this adjustment lipsrsealed
Olohun ma se wa ni a de orun m'oto.

May we not be fated to only know the truth after our death/or in the afterlife 🙏
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by chimex38(op): 11:06am On Mar 22
accountantben:
I lost my dad as a result of this doctrine.
Sorry. I get you though It would have been much better if such demise is based on an Endearing-Faith that lasts forever not one subject to doctrinal changes and even possible future changes as well.

To you as his Child : I would say sorry for your loss. God's strength day by day.

But to you now, onbehalf of your Dad: don't fret.
He died for what he believed in.
I believe It's a good closure to you and his others survivors. For your Dad was aware of what was coming and probably prepared and accepted it in good faith.

It helps descendants to seek closure much faster and recover faster from such loss knowing death wasn't entirely sudden, unaware and a surprise to the person but self-chosen.

Sorry for your loss.
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Daniluv1(m): 11:09am On Mar 22
Honestly they need to be sued cause they cost a lot of people their lives because of the useless doctrine and now you think you can just come out and readjust and move on like nothing happened they are mvd
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:11am On Mar 22
2mch:
Abstain from murder and sacrifice is not the same as blood transfusion. Since Jehovah Witness eat meat, they don’t abstain from blood so that argument is ridiculous. Red meat and even fish is full of blood.
You are becoming emotional instead of facing facts.
The Bible specifically says:

Keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols, from blood, from what is strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you carefully keep yourselves from these things, you will prosper. Good health to you! Act 15:29

So several aspects of contacting deadly diseases is mentioned in the verse.

[1] Things sacrificed to idols because they are not hygienically prepared.

[2] Blood because it contains cells that makes up another person! Leviticus 17:14

[3] From strangled animals because the blood wasn't drained.

[4] Sexual immorality because of STDs.


Now we are talking about treatment that involves transfusing blood from one person to another.

Please listen to what medical experts have to say on the matter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlsjWwHWP4M?si=oX3dg4QTA0H34dFO
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:12am On Mar 22
2mch:
You are still believing the fake story your church was spreading. If millions died, why is it now Ok to transfuse bloodhuh
Because it's not from external sources!🙂
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by RizpahJah: 11:21am On Mar 22
(Proverbs 4:18, NIV) The verse states, "But the path of the righteous is like the light of dawn, shining brighter and brighter until full day". This imagery compares a life of righteousness to the gradual illumination of the morning sun. Just as dawn grows brighter until it reaches full daylight, a righteous person's understanding, wisdom, and spiritual insight increase over time. The "path" symbolizes the journey of living according to God’s teachings. A good Christian is not dogmatic with spiritual understanding.
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Ucheamani(m): 11:21am On Mar 22
MaxInDHouse:
Because it's not from external sources!🙂
26years ago, JW published in the article below that use of own blood in medical procedures are purely up to individual's conscience.

https://www.jw.org/finder?srcid=jwlshare&wtlocale=E&prefer=lang&docid=2000767
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Ucheamani(m): 11:24am On Mar 22
2mch:
JWs don’t believe it. They do it because it is church doctrine and they are afraid of being shunned by their church. If you go to Reddit you will see that people who lost their children and loved ones because of such doctrine are getting ready to sue your church. Also, when every JW had rejected blood, they mentioned their doctrine as the reason why. Even if you try to remove the church from this false doctrine, it cannot escape the lawsuit that is coming.

Blood transfusion has saved millions of lives. Transfused blood as long as it’s same blood type as yours has never been rejected and it has made so many live a very long and healthy life.
The position of JW as far back as 26years ago was that it's up to individuals to decide how to use their blood in medical procedures.
https://www.jw.org/finder?srcid=jwlshare&wtlocale=E&prefer=lang&docid=2000767
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by 2mch(m): 11:25am On Mar 22
MaxInDHouse:
You are becoming emotional instead of facing facts.
The Bible specifically says:

Keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols, from blood, from what is strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you carefully keep yourselves from these things, you will prosper. Good health to you! Act 15:29

So several aspects of contacting deadly diseases is mentioned in the verse.

[1] Things sacrificed to idols because they are not hygienically prepared.

[2] Blood because it contains cells that makes up another person! Leviticus 17:14

[3] From strangled animals because the blood wasn't drained.

[4] Sexual immorality because of STDs.


Now we are talking about treatment that involves transfusing blood from one person to another.

Please listen to what medical experts have to say on the matter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlsjWwHWP4M?si=oX3dg4QTA0H34dFO
You people know how to cherry pick passages. Post the whole chapter 15 and read it 10times to understand that the disciples were not speaking of blood transfusion but were preaching and converting unbelievers. So they were clarifying certain laws of Moses when it relates to sacrifice. It’s not good to be this easily controlled as a human being o. I agree with all the disciples said but in no way did they mean blood transfusion. They meant drinking blood which some people do in sacrifice. This is why even the Catholic Church has substituted drinking blood for wine because it is no longer mandated since Jesus died to eat the body and drink the blood. They were certainly talking about animal sacrifice because of the strangulation part. They will strangle the animal by cutting it in a way that it chokes on its own blood and then drain the blood to drink in sacrifice.

Even if you go for operation that doesn’t require blood transfusion you can still die. But the point is, do everything possible to save your life. The amount of negligence in blood transfusion is too little to reject it if it will save your life.
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Sevenworldpower(m): 11:30am On Mar 22
SUNNINO:
After killing thousands of people over the years.
Can you pls provide statistics on number of jehovah witnesses who died due to refusal of blood transfusions. Adjust the data to jehovah witnesses who died due to complications of diseases or poor health system in Nigeria not actually due to blood refusal.
Also provide data on number of people who died even after accepting blood transfusions.
Also present data on number of who lost their lives because they did not respect sacredness of life and engage in harmful practices that Bible clearly condemn. Practices like murder, war and violent acts.
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by chimex38(op): 11:33am On Mar 22
< A BIT OF DISGUSTING WRITE-UP BELOW, READERS DESCRETION ADVISED>










1) if ones saliva can be taken back in after spitting it out?
Will it be more harmful than harmless?
Akin to transfusing ones own blood?



2) Is kissing more healthy than infectious?
Akin to taking someone else blood?

Which statistics between (1) and (2) will have a higher survival or healthier rate?

Can both choices (1) and (2)
co-exist in nature based on choice rather than right or wrong?
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:34am On Mar 22
When talking about blood transfusion i (not someone else told me) faced a life threatening disease that almost took my life in the year 2002.
By then i was just studying the Bible with Jehovah's Witnesses so i don't know much about their teachings but as for the blood transfusion thing i knew as they always carry a card in their possession that says "NO BLOOD"

During treatment the doctors told my mother that i need blood though i was only signalling with my head that i don't want it the nurse noticed and told my mom that it seems this man is objecting to a blood transfusion but my mom said:
"don't mind him, it's some stupid religious ideas, please do the needful"

After the transfusion my condition worsened and the doctors now asked my mom to take me to their headquarters in another state.

It was a herbalist who later saved me by giving me something like powder to swallow and drink water. He said this will drain all the blood that doesn't belong to his system. He told my mom that he can't commence treatment unless the external blood is removed from my body.

That day i urinated a lot but the urine was so thick and filled a big bucket then i turned into a skeleton that was when the herbalist commenced his own treatment which kept me alive till today.

So when i'm talking about blood transfusion it's not just what JWs or Bible said o it's what happened to me life and direct that is why i can defend it with my whole soul!🙂

Kenobsky:
Since I received blood transfusion I started behaving not like my former self,I cont come against it,but it has its spiritual side.
JW are hypocrites I can never trust them.
Anything else with this people is devilish.
To fetch your blood and bring it back is still transfusion.
What a cult?
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Sevenworldpower(m): 11:36am On Mar 22
2mch:
You people know how to cherry pick passages. Post the whole chapter 15 and read it 10times to understand that the disciples were not speaking of blood transfusion but were preaching and converting unbelievers. So they were clarifying certain laws of Moses when it relates to sacrifice. It’s not good to be this easily controlled as a human being o. I agree with all the disciples said but in no way did they mean blood transfusion. They meant drinking blood which some people do in sacrifice. This is why even the Catholic Church has substituted drinking blood for wine because it is no longer mandated since Jesus died to eat the body and drink the blood. They were certainly talking about animal sacrifice because of the strangulation part. They will strangle the animal by cutting it in a way that it chokes on its own blood and then drain the blood to drink in sacrifice.

Even if you go for operation that doesn’t require blood transfusion you can still die. But the point is, do everything possible to save your life. The amount of negligence in blood transfusion is too little to reject it if it will save your life.
Medical science is not absolute.
In its inception blood transfusions had 15 to 50% fatality rate. In 60s to 80%, thousands get infected through blood transfusions.

Granted blood transfusions appear to be safe now but I can tell you in 30 to 50 years from now, blood transfusions will be considered a major risk factor for some yet to be discovered diseases.
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:39am On Mar 22
I have tested it once so i can boldly and confidently say blood transfusion is evil!🙂
2mch:
You people know how to cherry pick passages. Post the whole chapter 15 and read it 10times to understand that the disciples were not speaking of blood transfusion but were preaching and converting unbelievers. So they were clarifying certain laws of Moses when it relates to sacrifice. It’s not good to be this easily controlled as a human being o. I agree with all the disciples said but in no way did they mean blood transfusion. They meant drinking blood which some people do in sacrifice. This is why even the Catholic Church has substituted drinking blood for wine because it is no longer mandated since Jesus died to eat the body and drink the blood. They were certainly talking about animal sacrifice because of the strangulation part. They will strangle the animal by cutting it in a way that it chokes on its own blood and then drain the blood to drink in sacrifice.

Even if you go for operation that doesn’t require blood transfusion you can still die. But the point is, do everything possible to save your life. The amount of negligence in blood transfusion is too little to reject it if it will save your life.
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:44am On Mar 22
Ucheamani:
The position of JW as far back as 26years ago was that it's up to individuals to decide how to use their blood in medical procedures.
https://www.jw.org/finder?srcid=jwlshare&wtlocale=E&prefer=lang&docid=2000767
Abeg no mind them jàre.

They will just come to Nairaland claiming they believe in God but what the Bible teaches about their safety they don't know!🙂
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:49am On Mar 22
Sevenworldpower:
Granted blood transfusions appear to be safe now but I can tell you in 30 to 50 years from now, blood transfusions will be considered a major risk factor for some yet to be discovered diseases.
When God's word says in the last days deadly diseases will be spreading fast across the globe faithless people don't know something will trigger it and such a thing will seem like a lifesaver to them!🙂
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by 2mch(m): 12:09pm On Mar 22
They are commenting with several usernames backing themselves up. This guy vehemently against blood transfusion is now claiming to have done it and it’s not good. Then they have gone to edit their website to prevent lawsuit. You see these churches, they only care about their bank account and will do anything to preserve their business while preaching false doctrines which do not exist in the Bible to control you.
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by 2mch(m): 12:11pm On Mar 22
An example of a JW citing JW doctrine as why she refused blood eventually leading to her death. You can edit your website and even pay to edit all the content on the internet but a lot of people have screenshot and pamphlet.

Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Janosky: 12:11pm On Mar 22
2mch:
They are commenting with several usernames backing themselves up. This guy vehemently against blood transfusion is now claiming to have done it and it’s not good. Then they have gone to edit their website to prevent lawsuit.

You see these churches, they only care about their bank account and will do anything to preserve their business while preaching false doctrines which do not exist in the Bible to control you.
Your last paragraph,is that your own church ?
Just asking.......
cheesy
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:14pm On Mar 22
2mch:
They are commenting with several usernames backing themselves up.
Childish comment!

So when different people are talking about what they know regarding the subject whatever makes them agree means they are commenting using several usernames.

Ọmọ enlightenment yourself God's word said:

"Abstain from blood" Act 15:28-29 and the context is about HEALTH so whether you agree or disagree it's a choice of yours which you are entitled to!🙂
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:16pm On Mar 22
2mch:
An example of a JW citing JW doctrine as why she refused blood eventually leading to her death. You can edit your website and even pay to edit all the content on the internet but a lot of people have screenshot and pamphlet.
According to the screenshot you shared was blood transfusion the cause of her death or ADVANCED BREAST CANCER?🙂
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Janosky: 12:19pm On Mar 22
chimex38:
Doctrinal Changes And Effect On Personal Judgement



This is a fallout from the recent adjustment on blood transfusion from JW which other doctrinal adjustments also happens in every other religion as well.

Where do we draw the line as Christians?

Previous thread https://www.nairaland.com/8638945/jehovahs-witnesses-now-allow-transfusion
Oga,this is not a recent adjustment .

Have you been reading /studying the Watchtower since the late 1970/1980's?


Numerous Watchtower articles in the 1980s have given the same info that the Jw broadcast tv update #2 emphasized for clarity.
The news media claimed it is "recent adjustment" but that news report is not true.
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Janosky: 12:21pm On Mar 22
2mch:
An example of a JW citing JW doctrine as why she refused blood eventually leading to her death. You can edit your website and even pay to edit all the content on the internet but a lot of people have screenshot and pamphlet.
Oga stop deceiving yourself.
Screenshot evidence

Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by DrabeeyIsBack: 12:22pm On Mar 22
chimex38:
religious members who:
-self evaluate from time to time
-Study and think independently outside the rules of their hierarchy
-or consider and compare views of others on their doctrines,
-aknowledge some errors and gray areas to see some flaws
-critic parts that are overdue to change.
- question rules and try to provide alternatives where possible etc.

What about those that have died because JW embargoed the process before?

Such members will most likely spot a doctrine and adjust even before their governing body or supreme head makes any pronouncement.
And what us the fate of those who died because they were not allowed blood transfusion earlier
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Emusan(m): 12:22pm On Mar 22
tctrills:
I actually don't think members of any religion should be making the changes. It should always be up to the leadership if there must be order.

Also, to be honest, there isn't any church that is over a 100 years that has not make several important changes.

I also think that this is a positive start for the JW but I still think that the new rules bring a new set of problems. From what I was told, the new rule allows JW members to bank their own blood for the rainy day. This new law would bring about wild spread inequality.
In richer communities this wouldn't be a challenge, but the poor in 3rd world countries can't keep to this.
The church doctrines shouldn't be to benefit the rich at detriment to the poor.
I hope to be further educated on this though. But in general, this is healthier than the old law. Whomever was responsible for the old law is clearly a mass murderer.
Where you people are getting it wrong is making God a liar with man made rules.

For instance, when Kumuyi claimed TV is a devil's tools I don't think he attributed it or God or something Bible rejected.

Watchtower on the other hands always making God a liar.

Pre-2026 rejection of Blood Transfusion has been hung upon WHAT GOD REJECT THROUGH BIBLE or simply put God's law rejected Blood Transfusion.

So, if God rejected Blood Transfusion with various scripture used to support it, does that mean those scripture suddenly vanished or rewriting by God?

Even looking at the broadcast of this new light, it was said "After much PRAYER and study of the scripture...."

Tell me, is this how God works through the history?
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