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Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by angelboy01(m): 5:22pm On Mar 22
MaxInDHouse:
I'm not your bro o i'm just a neighbor to you i know my own brothers!🙂
Funny thing quote wasn't meant for you. My own brother don't think like you do. So thanks for clarity.
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by achorladey: 5:45pm On Mar 22
Emusan:
This particular 'New Light' will do a deadly blow to that organization in few months to come more than their failed 1914 prophecy, then they'll realize it's actually New Darkness.

The news is almost on all social media and see people's comment under it, forget what the fake elder and Janosky are saying here.
To see various foreign news media picked it up up makes it interesting. When the latest news developments are scrutinised, the consequences will be interesting to see
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by achorladey: 5:48pm On Mar 22
Eldeedon:
Who told you traveling by bus is 100% safe? Does that mean because its not 100% safe you will not travel by bus again?
Loooooool
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Emusan(m): 5:50pm On Mar 22
achorladey:
To see various foreign news media picked it up up makes it interesting. When the latest news developments are scrutinised, the consequences will be interesting to see
You remember this thread.

https://www.nairaland.com/6943805/jehovah-witnesses-right-belief-against/51#138856028

The creator just told me to stop spreading misinformation grin grin grin grin grin cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by achorladey: 5:53pm On Mar 22
Eldeedon:
Revenge ke! Lol... I'm only stating the obvious.
He wants to make himself victim and play the victim game grin cheesy cheesy
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by achorladey: 5:54pm On Mar 22
Emusan:
You remember this thread.

https://www.nairaland.com/6943805/jehovah-witnesses-right-belief-against/51#138856028

The creator just told me to stop spreading misinformation grin grin grin grin grin cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
Loooooool, omo dem go dey hide their head now over the matter.
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by tnerro1(m): 5:57pm On Mar 22
MaxInDHouse:
You people just want to argue yet you don't know your Bible.

There is well over 600 laws given to the Israelites God wrote 10 in tablets to show the Israelites that it's not just what Moses fabricated.
So ask your pastors where they got the law of tithe perhaps it's among the ten commandments!🤔
I say show me were blood was transfused in the Bible or go and worship your white man in peace
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by tnerro1(m): 6:00pm On Mar 22
MaxInDHouse:
You people just want to argue yet you don't know your Bible.

There is well over 600 laws given to the Israelites God wrote 10 in tablets to show the Israelites that it's not just what Moses fabricated.
So ask your pastors where they got the law of tithe perhaps it's among the ten commandments!🤔
See the old white man that is telling you how to think, shame on you

Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:08pm On Mar 22
tnerro1:
I say show me were blood was transfused in the Bible or go and worship your white man in peace.
So you never read the OP?🤣
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:09pm On Mar 22
tnerro1:
See the old white man that is telling you how to think, shame on you
He is my brother!🙂
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by advanceDNA: 6:11pm On Mar 22
MaxInDHouse:
Don't change the subject nah.

Who told you that treatment involving blood transfusion is 100% safe?🙂
Lol…u are the one changing the subject from a scriptural position to the technicality of 100% safety…..

Nothin in life is 100% safe…even the everyday food you eat has risks hence not 100% safe…so u dont have a point until u start avoiding everything in life because of 100% safety reasons

.the plane or car u transport is not 100% safe..
coca-cola and other beverages contain chemical additive that increase the risk of cancer hence not 100% safety
Child birth, weda natural birth or c-section is not 100% safe…
. Virtually all drugs we use are not approved because they are 100% safe…but the FDA approves them anyway because it helps to a high degree and the risk are manageable…. Some drugs cause heart disease, liver problems, kidney damage….yet they are approved with the condition they are prescribed for patients not prone to these diseases

so trying to play with the technicality of 100% safety just exposes ur desperation to prove ur organisation’s point…

the safety of blood transfusion rest largely on the medical science technology of blood profiling before administration…

Baba.. dont get me wrong oooo…If ur reason for not wanting blood transfusion is lack of trust in medical science, that fine……… i know pple who dont take blood, drugs, coca cola, meat, and even some common foods…

.there are pple who dont even beleive in going to the hospital just because they dont beleive in science…but its not because of some weird manipulation of scriptures context…

hiding under act 15v29 is skewed interpretation and a complete truckload of garbage
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:18pm On Mar 22
advanceDNA:
Nothin in life is 100% safe…even the everyday food you eat has risks hence not 100% safe…
So you're not sure if blood transfusion can save patients it's just an approach to which the patient has a right to object!
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by tnerro1(m): 6:21pm On Mar 22
MaxInDHouse:
So you never read the OP?🤣
😂 now I can see why you are easily deceived
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:22pm On Mar 22
No mind me jàre!🤣
tnerro1:
😂 now I can see why you are easily deceived
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by tnerro1(m): 6:23pm On Mar 22
MaxInDHouse:
He is my brother!🙂
He will live longer than you cause they have the means to store their own blood, but you wey no get steady light, o ti lor 😂😁😂
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by advanceDNA: 6:23pm On Mar 22
MaxInDHouse:
So you're not sure if blood transfusion can save patients it's just an approach to which the patient has a right to object!
Lol….whats is the matter with you:::
The evidence that blood transfusion saves is there for all to see.. right now.. a mother is birthing a child and will aurvive because of blood transfusion…

A man with a unique antibody in his blood saved the life of over two million babies born with Rhesus blood anomaly through transfusion for the last 6 decades…. So what do u mean by im not sure..

Do u even understand what u read…??
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by tnerro1(m): 6:23pm On Mar 22
MaxInDHouse:
No mind me jàre!🤣
😂😂😂😂😂
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:25pm On Mar 22
advanceDNA:
Lol….whats is the matter with you:::
The evidence that blood transfusion saves is there for all to see.. right now.. a mother is birthing a child and will aurvive because of blood transfusion…
Thousands of JWs have done that safely without blood transfusion jàre.

So blood transfusion is not compulsory since we have options!🙂
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by advanceDNA: 6:30pm On Mar 22
MaxInDHouse:
Thousands of JWs have done that safely without blood transfusion jàre.

So blood transfusion is not compulsory since we have options!🙂
I never said its compulsory….
Mothers have complications .. some cannot birth naturally and hence need c-section which may cause need for blood..

Have u heard of accident victims who lose a lot of blood.., hence need transfusion to survive

Have u head if anaemic patients… like patients with sickle cell sometimes need to be trasfused when they have their usual medical crises…. As in …why do u sound so deliberately unintelligent
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:34pm On Mar 22
advanceDNA:
I never said its compulsory….
Mothers have complications .. some cannot birth naturally and hence need c-section which may cause need for blood..
We already have measures on ground to handle such matters in fact that is what all the elders are doing now.

For instance if anyone is pregnant we start planning on how to help perhaps any complications arises.
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by chimex38(op): 6:56pm On Mar 22
Eldeedon:
Since when did you realize that the law is no longer binding on Christians??

This was the same message we preach every day that the law no longer binding today, and you guys have been calling us names for it! So, why is it now you realize the law no longer hold waters and you are free to use your own Bible conscious mind to decide if you would take it or not?
Exactly the Crux.

Why wait for official announcement through "prayer and study" before you can live rightly when some have figured it on their own from other denominations and even within JW..
The Bible hasn't changed.
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Janosky: 7:05pm On Mar 22
advanceDNA:
I never said its compulsory….
Mothers have complications .. some cannot birth naturally and hence need c-section which may cause need for blood..

Have u heard of accident victims who lose a lot of blood.., hence need transfusion to survive

Have u head if anaemic patients… like patients with sickle cell sometimes need to be trasfused when they have their usual medical crises…. As in …why do u sound so deliberately unintelligent
Oga, pls allow us to use all the medical treatment options which the law & medical professionals have agreed is useful & very safe.

Is there any law that stipulates JW's must chose the medical treatment option you prefer?
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by advanceDNA: 7:05pm On Mar 22
MaxInDHouse:
We already have measures on ground to handle such matters in fact that is what all the elders are doing now.

For instance if anyone is pregnant we start planning on how to help perhaps any complications arises.
Which measure do u have in place from accident victims who lose too many blood , anaemic patients, and pple going for surgery that involve heavy blood loss….??
Baba be deceiving yourself…. Yall are fornicating and committing adultery but trying to prove what is not by refusing a medical intervention that could save life
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by chimex38(op): 7:06pm On Mar 22
For those religious defenders who feel they are good at scriptures, my advice is use your supposed analysis and prowess to look through the doctrines of your organizations and challenge and question some of them before the next release and adjustments.

Cuz it will still happen in future and not just JW but others and it will be a much better way to channel your use of scriptures to stay ahead of your doctrines.

Meditate on and re-evaluate those doctrines rather than competing with others on whose religion is better or win meanliness arguments to fill ones ego with nothing learnt.
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:08pm On Mar 22
If you want to know something try to be polite i have the right to my own faith so if you're disrespectful because i'm responding to you like a mature person then i will turn you into a joke o!😟
advanceDNA:
Which measure do u have in place from accident victims who lose too many blood , anaemic patients, and pple going for surgery that involve heavy blood loss….??
Baba be deceiving yourself…. Yall are fornicating and committing adultery but trying to prove what is not by refusing a medical intervention that could save life
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by advanceDNA: 7:14pm On Mar 22
Janosky:
Oga, pls allow us to use all the medical treatment options which the law & medical professionals have agreed is useful & very safe.

Is there any law that stipulates JW's must chose the medical treatment option you prefer?
U ddnt read… u jumped into into a conversation in between….
This discussion isnt about your choice…i mean u can choose not to eat for 100days… but saying the bible said so its a different issue entirely

there are pple who dont use drugs at all, some dont eat meat, and some types of foods…but they are not claiming scripture said so..
.. this discussion is ur skewed interpretation of scriptural context at the expense if pple’s lives

…. Act 15:29’s context is about blood from animals… ur organisation is being extreme in a bid to appear different yet deliberately refusing to see they are playing with pple’s lives….
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Janosky:
advanceDNA:
Which measure do u have in place from accident victims who lose too many blood , anaemic patients, and pple going for surgery that involve heavy blood loss….??
Baba be deceiving yourself…. Yall are fornicating and committing adultery but trying to prove what is not by refusing a medical intervention that could save life
Oga, be humble pls.
No dey assume you know everything.
JW's have contingency support group to deal with the emergencies like accidents ,etc for our members when the need arises.
Every JW's know how to go about it instanta..



Abeg you read the screenshot.

Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by advanceDNA: 7:25pm On Mar 22
MaxInDHouse:
If you want to know something try to be polite i have the right to my own faith so if you're disrespectful because i'm responding to you like a mature person then i will turn you into a joke o!😟
U are angry because the truth is like a hard knock on the head….
I dropped some examples of medical situations needing blood… u ignored them and responded only to pregnant women claiming u already have solution to blood loss during delivery …. Are u not deceiving yourself sir…..??
Whats the solution u have for anaemic disease patients that cant even store their own blood because they dont even have enough to begin with

The millions of children saved by one man’s blood transfusion… what provisions do u have for that??

Like i said sir be deceiving yourself just to juatify your points
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by advanceDNA: 7:28pm On Mar 22
Janosky:
Oga, be humble pls.
No dey assume you know everything.
Abeg yous read the screenshot.
This screenshot is supposed to be what sir??
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Janosky: 7:30pm On Mar 22
advanceDNA:
U ddnt read… u jumped into into a conversation in between….
This discussion isnt about your choice…i mean u can choose it to eat for 100days… but saying the bible said so its a different issue entirely

there are pple who dont use drugs at all, some dont eat meat, and some types of foods…but they are not claiming scripture said so..
.. this discussion is ur skewed interpretation of scriptural context at the expense if pple’s lives

…. Act 15:29’s context is about blood from animals… ur organisation is being extreme in a bid to appear different yet deliberately refusing to see they are playing with pple’s lives….
Are all the prohibitions of Acts 15:29 specific to only animals?
No.
The principle there in, applied to us, humans.
That verse is against fornication.
Is oral action expressly stated there at Acts 15:29?
No.
Is someone doing oral action on another person disobeying the instruction against fornication?
Yes.

Nah the same principle guide JWs to Abstain from B.T .....
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Janosky: 7:35pm On Mar 22
advanceDNA:
This screenshot is supposed to be what sir??
The screenshot is visible in my previous comment @ 7:17pm.
It address a point you made about emergency situations, which necessitated the highlighted part of the screenshot , to respond to your point.
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by advanceDNA: 7:39pm On Mar 22
Janosky:
Are all the prohibitions of Acts 15:29 specific to only animals?
No.
The principle there in, applied to us, humans.
That verse is against fornication.
Is oral action expressly stated there at Acts 15:29?
No.
Is someone doing oral action on another person disobeying the instruction against fornication?
Yes.

Nah the same principle guide JWs to Abstain from .....
So why are u here changing the laws u claim are from God’s scripture??
Yall claim eating blood and transfusing is the same thing years ago to justify refusing all forms of transfusion….

so all of a sudden eating your own blood is now okay??

The man in USA is just playing with your lives in a bid to appear unique….yall are not different from muslims who dint read their quran but are inly told whats in it…
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