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DeepSight:
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Focus on the principles I laid out.
Start with this -

I'll do it later.. Be informed that most claims from. Arabs and muslims in general about Israel are usually lies.
Start from there too.

DeepSight:
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I struggle to see the point in this experiment.

By the way, I have a lot of serious criticisms of Obama which shows me to be balanced. Do you have a single serious criticism of Trump-Christ?

You will see who profitted more from being president, you can do th same for Biden too

I didnt support Trump in 2016, I didnt support Trump in 2020. Until I saw the failure of the Democrats in Bidens regime before I supported him in 2024

I fully supported Obama in 2008. I was at Grant Park where he gave his victory speech in November 2008 until I saw the left for what it is. A parade of victimhood

DeepSight:
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It is not minding your business to expand illegally into the West Bank, practice apartheid there against the Palestinians and cage the people of Gaza in an open air prison.

No. This is a lie. I was aware when Israel left Gaza in 2005 under Ariel Sharon. and what did Hamas do in Gaza? They turned it into a terror base to terrorize Israel

You know Gazans go to Israel daily for work, You know they go to Israel for medical treatment while any Israeli caught in Gaza will likely be killed

You see that facts dont care about your emotions

raumdeuter:
You will see who profitted more from being president, you can do th same for Biden too

I didnt support Trump in 2016, I didnt support Trump in 2020. Until I saw the failure of the Democrats in Bidens regime before I supported him in 2024

I fully supported Obama in 2008. I was at Grant Park where he gave his victory speech in November 2008 until I saw the left for what it is. A parade of victimhood

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As per the bold the question is whether the profit is legal or illegal. Insider trading, conflict of interest and abuse of office make the profit illegal or at the minimum unethical. But if you write books about your presidency which sell millions, that is perfectly legit.

I do have issues with the left too.

bayelsaowei:
I hope as they prepare to deal a final blow, they preserve the lives of the Iranians they are trying to emancipate.

We both know they don’t care.

DeepSight:
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Well said. The truth is that the generality of the "returnee" so called European Jews cannot be shown to be the Israelites of old. It is not surprising that most of them are noticeably white. The Israelites of old were not white.

Ignorance. They are Semitic. But do you know that someone can be biracial too, or is this concept new to you? According to you, White people living in Europe and feeling safe decided to relocate to that small land where they have to fight for their lives. 🤣

Living in Europe for aprix 1,000+ years led to:
Intermarriage to varying degrees.

adaptation to local populations
Result is wide range of appearances from very Middle Eastern-looking to European-looking.

You don't know this? Hitler was just killing white people calling them Jews?

raumdeuter:
Israel was minding its business when Palestinan thugs Hamas went to kill them on October not military target but concert goers, boys and girls who went to party were graped, killed and burned

Israel was going to get Hamas thugs who hide themselves with among Palestinian civilians, if Hamas will separate themselves from the civilians you will not see casualties

Its like you punch me, I now want to punch you back then you go hide behind your 4yr old

The conflict between Israel and Gaza did not start on that October 7.

Israel has had many murderous attacks on Palestine for over 30 years.

Who threw the first blow? The Isreali came to Palestine in 1948 to create isreal and then kept on expanding israels borders and eating Palestine land.

raumdeuter:
No. This is a lie. I was aware when Israel left Gaza in 2005 under Ariel Sharon. and what did Hamas do in Gaza? They turned it into a terror base to terrorize Israel

You know Gazans go to Israel daily for work, You know they go to Israel for medical treatment while any Israeli caught in Gaza will likely be killed

You see that facts dont care about your emotions

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The apartheid practiced by Israel also does not care about your double standards, House N.

GracieX3:
The conflict between Israel and Gaza did not start on that October 7.

Israel has had many murderous attacks on Palestine for over 30 years.

Who threw the first blow? The Isreali came to Palestine in 1948 to create isreal and then kept on expanding israels borders and eating Palestine land.

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THANK YOU, ESPECIALLY FOR THE BOLD.

Many people dont know or ignore the amount of Palestinians that had been killed that same year in the West Bank by Israel.

DeepSight:
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The apartheid practiced by Israel also does not care about your double standards, House N.

The Arabs in Israel in the parliament, Supreme Court, IDF are all living in apartheid 🤣🤣

Its seems they choose apartheid over the West Bank then. You are spewing bulls as usual

benalvino3:
Ignorance. They are Semitic. But do you know that someone can be biracial too, or is this concept new to you? According to you, White people living in Europe and feeling safe decided to relocate to that small land where they have to fight for their lives. 🤣

Living in Europe for aprix 1,000+ years led to:
Intermarriage to varying degrees.

adaptation to local populations
Result is wide range of appearances from very Middle Eastern-looking to European-looking.

You don't know this? Hitler was just killing white people calling them Jews?

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Don't be silly.

DeepSight:
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As per the bold the question is whether the profit is legal or illegal. Insider trading, conflict of interest and abuse of office make the profit illegal or at the minimum unethical. But if you write books about your presidency which sell millions, that is perfectly legit.

When did Obama write his book about his presidency? 2020. How much was he worth befor 2008 and how much he was worth in 2017 after presidency before books. Do the percentage increase

You mean when the influence of office make you get financial benefit like sending your son to Burisma in Ukraine to negotiate and get a cut for the "Big guy"

GracieX3:
The conflict between Israel and Gaza did not start on that October 7.

Israel has had many murderous attacks on Palestine for over 30 years.

Who threw the first blow? The Isreali came to Palestine in 1948 to create isreal and then kept on expanding israels borders and eating Palestine land.

Exactly, it did not start in October 7. If Israel is committing genocide for a conflict that has span more than 7 decades, no one in gaza should be left.

Israel came to Palestine 🤣🤣

What is Palestine? See ignorance

benalvino3:
The Arabs in Israel in the parliament, Supreme Court, IDF are all living in apartheid 🤣🤣

Its seems they choose apartheid over the West Bank then. You are spewing bulls as usual

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You are not aware of the fact that there are many rights denied even Israeli Arabs.

Learn -

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In Israel, "Israeli Arabs" (primarily identifying as Palestinian citizens of Israel) are subject to various laws and policies that human rights organizations, legal experts, and international bodies identify as discriminatory. These range from high-level constitutional definitions to specific administrative practices.

1. Constitutional and Nation-State Policies
The Jewish Nation-State Law (2018): This Basic Law (which has constitutional status) defines Israel as the "nation-state of the Jewish people," declaring that the right to national self-determination is "unique to the Jewish people." It downgraded Arabic from an official language to a "special status" and identifies Jewish settlement as a "national value" to be encouraged.

The "Nakba Law": This policy allows the government to reduce or withhold funding from public institutions (such as schools or municipalities) that commemorate the Nakba (the 1948 displacement of Palestinians) or challenge the definition of Israel as a Jewish and democratic state.

2. Land, Housing, and Planning
Admissions Committees Law: This law allows hundreds of small, semi-private communities (built on state-owned land) to use "social suitability" as a criterion to vet potential residents. Critics argue this is used as a legal mechanism to prevent Arab citizens from living in Jewish-majority towns.

Inequity in Land Allocation: Approximately 93% of land in Israel is state-controlled. Historically, almost no new Arab towns have been established since 1948, while hundreds of Jewish towns have been. This has led to severe overcrowding and a lack of master plans in Arab municipalities, making "illegal" construction a necessity for many.

The Kaminitz Law: An amendment to the Planning and Building Law that significantly increased penalties and expedited demolition orders for unauthorized construction. Because Arab towns often lack approved zoning plans, they are disproportionately affected by these "administrative" demolitions.

3. Family and Citizenship
Citizenship and Entry into Israel Law: This law (renewed regularly) generally prohibits Palestinians from the West Bank or Gaza who marry Israeli citizens from receiving legal status or residency in Israel. While framed as a security measure, the UN and rights groups point out it applies almost exclusively to Arab citizens, effectively preventing them from living with their spouses in their home country.

4. Socio-Economic and Resource Disparities
Education Funding: While the gap has narrowed in recent years, significant disparities persist in per-student funding between the Arab and Jewish sectors, particularly in the "National-Religious" school tracks.

Socio-Economic Development: Arab municipalities often receive lower per-capita grants and have a smaller tax base due to a lack of industrial zones (which the state usually zones for Jewish municipalities), leading to lower-quality public services and infrastructure.

5. Criminal Justice and Freedom of Expression
Counter-Terrorism Law Application: Recent reports (2024–2025) suggest that the Counter-Terrorism Law's provisions regarding "speech-related offenses" (like "liking" posts or expressing support) are applied with a distinct standard. Data from legal aid groups like Adalah shows that the vast majority of arrests for "incitement" involve Arab citizens, while similar rhetoric from Jewish citizens often goes unprosecuted.

The "Infiltrators" Law: Though primarily targeting asylum seekers, the legal framework for "infiltrators" often overlaps with policies affecting the status of non-Jewish residents and their families.
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GracieX3:
The conflict between Israel and Gaza did not start on that October 7.
Israel has had many murderous attacks on Palestine for over 30 years.
Who threw the first blow? The Isreali came to Palestine in 1948 to create isreal and then kept on expanding israels borders and eating Palestine land.

Israel came to their ancestral home after the UN gave them the piece of land in 1948, and since then the Palestinians and other Arab nations went to war with them which they lost every time

When you go to war and lose, there are consequences, that is what happened in Golan height from Syria, Gaza, Sinai from Egypt, West Bank from Jordan

raumdeuter:
When did Obama write his book about his presidency? 2020. How much was he worth befor 2008 and how much he was worth in 2017 after presidency before books. Do the percentage increase

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Pls specify what was corrupt.

You mean when the influence of office make you get financial benefit like sending your son to Burisma in Ukraine to negotiate and get a cut for the "Big guy"

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I believe there was corruption there by Biden.

But its one instance. In the case of Trump, the instances are legion.

DeepSight:
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The apartheid practiced by Israel also does not care about your double standards, House N.

Of course its always emotional. Have I called you names? But your emotional wreck cannot resist when you get schooled by facts the same thing benalvino3 said about you earlier

Israel has Arabs in their parliament, How many Jews are in Gaza parliament?. Now tell us the apartheid state

DeepSight:
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Don't be silly.

Dude stop projecting. What is your counter argument? You lied, got called out your response is don't be silly.

DeepSight:
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Pls specify what was corrupt..

How much his net worth grew from 2008 to 2017 will show you. He didnt have any other job beside being president in that time

Trump was a billionaire in private sector and his real estate empire kept being managed and growing

DeepSight:
+ I believe there was corruption there by Biden.

But its one instance. In the case of Trump, the instances are legion

This is you excusing blatant corruption saying its one time, That is the one that was caught, Why did biden have to give his son a pardon dating back to 2014 even before he was president

benalvino3:
It is history book. The Bible talked about the Jews, the land, the Quran talked about the Jews the land. What the bible and the Quran never mentioned are the Palestinians.

The Jews have always been there, build the first temple, conquered, they were allowed to build the second temple.

That's not a fact. Many Jews that were exiled returned to the Jewish state that was created. Jordan is supposed to be part of Israel because that was a British mandate too.

But the Jews are okay with what they got, why do the so-called Palestinians want blood and want everything?

Wrong.

Are you saying that descendants of Canaanites and Samaritans who lived in Palestine should come back after over a 1,000 years and claim part of israel/Palestine land too?

Secondly, even Jewish lawyers will tell you that there are terms like abandonment, adverse possession and usupcatiion.

If we were to use common law, the very fact that land was left by Jews for over a 1,000 years, then they have not only abandoned it but also forfeited it to those who have had possession of it.

raumdeuter:
Israel came to their ancestral home after the UN gave them the piece of land in 1948, and since then the Palestinians and other Arab nations went to war with them which they lost every time

When you go to war and lose, there are consequences, that is what happened in Golan height from Syria, Gaza, Sinai from Egypt, West Bank from Jordan

Has Israel been expanding its borders, yes or no?

DeepSight:
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You are not aware of the fact that there are many rights denied even Israeli Arabs.

Learn -

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In Israel, "Israeli Arabs" (primarily identifying as Palestinian citizens of Israel) are subject to various laws and policies that human rights organizations, legal experts, and international bodies identify as discriminatory. These range from high-level constitutional definitions to specific administrative practices.

1. Constitutional and Nation-State Policies
The Jewish Nation-State Law (2018): This Basic Law (which has constitutional status) defines Israel as the "nation-state of the Jewish people," declaring that the right to national self-determination is "unique to the Jewish people." It downgraded Arabic from an official language to a "special status" and identifies Jewish settlement as a "national value" to be encouraged.

The "Nakba Law": This policy allows the government to reduce or withhold funding from public institutions (such as schools or municipalities) that commemorate the Nakba (the 1948 displacement of Palestinians) or challenge the definition of Israel as a Jewish and democratic state.

2. Land, Housing, and Planning
Admissions Committees Law: This law allows hundreds of small, semi-private communities (built on state-owned land) to use "social suitability" as a criterion to vet potential residents. Critics argue this is used as a legal mechanism to prevent Arab citizens from living in Jewish-majority towns.

Inequity in Land Allocation: Approximately 93% of land in Israel is state-controlled. Historically, almost no new Arab towns have been established since 1948, while hundreds of Jewish towns have been. This has led to severe overcrowding and a lack of master plans in Arab municipalities, making "illegal" construction a necessity for many.

The Kaminitz Law: An amendment to the Planning and Building Law that significantly increased penalties and expedited demolition orders for unauthorized construction. Because Arab towns often lack approved zoning plans, they are disproportionately affected by these "administrative" demolitions.

3. Family and Citizenship
Citizenship and Entry into Israel Law: This law (renewed regularly) generally prohibits Palestinians from the West Bank or Gaza who marry Israeli citizens from receiving legal status or residency in Israel. While framed as a security measure, the UN and rights groups point out it applies almost exclusively to Arab citizens, effectively preventing them from living with their spouses in their home country.

4. Socio-Economic and Resource Disparities
Education Funding: While the gap has narrowed in recent years, significant disparities persist in per-student funding between the Arab and Jewish sectors, particularly in the "National-Religious" school tracks.

Socio-Economic Development: Arab municipalities often receive lower per-capita grants and have a smaller tax base due to a lack of industrial zones (which the state usually zones for Jewish municipalities), leading to lower-quality public services and infrastructure.

5. Criminal Justice and Freedom of Expression
Counter-Terrorism Law Application: Recent reports (2024–2025) suggest that the Counter-Terrorism Law's provisions regarding "speech-related offenses" (like "liking" posts or expressing support) are applied with a distinct standard. Data from legal aid groups like Adalah shows that the vast majority of arrests for "incitement" involve Arab citizens, while similar rhetoric from Jewish citizens often goes unprosecuted.

The "Infiltrators" Law: Though primarily targeting asylum seekers, the legal framework for "infiltrators" often overlaps with policies affecting the status of non-Jewish residents and their families.
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All this rights denied yet the one that wants to put Bibi in jail for corruption is an Arab judge. Oga, go sit down for corner. If these socalled rights you are talking about is so bad, why are they not moving to the westbank?

They have homes, work, school, have businesses. They are thriving. Israeli soldiers die to free Arab Israelis. What kind of apartheid is that?

benalvino3:
Dude stop projecting. What is your counter argument? You lied, got called out your response is don't be silly.

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Dont be silly.

If you call that getting called out then there is a problem with your early education.

benalvino3:
Exactly, it did not start in October 7. If Israel is committing genocide for a conflict that has span more than 7 decades, no one in gaza should be left.

Israel came to Palestine 🤣🤣

What is Palestine? See ignorance

Please, what is Israel? Do you know that the first prime minister of Israel, Golda Meir, carried a Palestinian passport?

The modern Isreal is a British creation.

See your ignorance

GracieX3:
Has Israel been expanding its borders, yes or no?

Yes, it's war, in wars, lands are always lost. Israel gave back lands they took from Egypt and Jordan. They refuse to give the Golan Heights back to Syria because of security concerns. And they created buffer in Lebanon for the same reason.

benalvino3:
All this rights denied yet the one that wants to put Bibi in jail for corruption is an Arab judge. Oga, go sit down for corner. If these socalled rights you are talking about is so bad, why are they not moving to the westbank?

They have homes, work, school, have businesses. They are thriving. Israeli soldiers die to free Arab Israelis. What kind of apartheid is that?

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Some have eyes but will not see.

I gave you a list of hard facts. This is exactly why I choose not to bother with some questions you guys pose. Because no amount of facts will stop your confirmation bias.

PS: A judge is a judge. He is not a prosecutor. Learn. Early education issues showing up again.

DeepSight:
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Well said. The truth is that the generality of the "returnee" so called European Jews cannot be shown to be the Israelites of old. It is not surprising that most of them are noticeably white. The Israelites of old were not white.

Many Jews in Israel have been shown to have European ancestry more than semitic.

Awon Omonile land grabbers

benalvino3:
Yes, it's war, in wars, lands are always lost. Israel gave back lands they took from Egypt and Jordan. They refuse to give the Golan Heights back to Syria because of security concerns. And they created buffer in Lebanon for the same reason.

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The UN is clear that the expanding settlements in the West Bank are illegal and that is not a matter of war.

GracieX3:
Please, what is Israel? Do you know that the first prime minister of Israel, Golda Meir, carried a Palestinian passport?

The modern Isreal is a British creation.

See your ignorance

Palestine is a British mandate. A British empire. It is not these Palestinian people whos identity we don't know that picked up that identity for their struggle.

Google British mandate

benalvino3:
Yes, it's war, in wars, lands are always lost. Israel gave back lands they took from Egypt and Jordan. They refuse to give the Golan Heights back to Syria because of security concerns. And they created buffer in Lebanon for the same reason.

So when Israel abuses international war, it is okay?

Starting war and expanding borders is okay as long as it is Israel. Lol.

Soon, you will be happy if Israel can annex Iran and be exporting Iranian oil. Awon land grabbers oshi

benalvino3:
Palestine is a British mandate. A British empire. It is not these Palestinian people whos identity we don't know that picked up that identity for their struggle.

Google British mandate

But you were rubbishing Palestine naa...
Lol

raumdeuter:
How much his net worth grew from 2008 to 2017 will show you. He didnt have any other job beside being president in that time

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You have to point out the specific acts of corruption. Even someone's stocks can grow exponentially without the person lifting a finger.

Trump was a billionaire in private sector and his real estate empire kept being managed and growing

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And he was convicted for things he did in his line of business.

This is you excusing blatant corruption saying its one time, That is the one that was caught, Why did biden have to give his son a pardon dating back to 2014 even before he was president

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I dont excuse it. I just called it corruption.

Also pardoning his son was fishy. However I would not blame him for it in the circumstances particularly when he could see the ascension of a corrupt adversary who would do worse.