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Janosky:
Moreover, what about Judas Iscariot? Long before he was born, Scriptural prophecies spoke of the Messiah’s betrayal. (Psalm 41:9; 55:12, 13) The Bible even says that “from the beginning” Jesus Christ knew who would betray him.—John 6:64.

In the light of James 1:14-15, Judas was a victim of his own desires.
It could have been anyone else.
The guy too like money & fell.....

If Judas was a victim of his own desires, then insight is right that Jesus chose a good man initially, later on turn to greedy, Yes ?

Floww23:
Explain this from Enjoy life forever book page 255

Some don't even know it exist in that book

Floww23:
No self awareness

A serious problem that one get.

MaxInDHouse:
When God choose someone or a group to lead His people whatever mistakes they make will be corrected in due time but whoever opposes them is on his or her own.
That's God's standard from ages past.
So if you feel faith in God is too costly for you no one is forcing you to have faith!🙂

God didn't choose your group or people. That's the origin of all the lies and manipulations

Floww23:
When the number of anointed started to grow in your religion, your publications said some of those eating the Emblems are Mentally ill. This is the pool from which u choose your GB members, Can God choose mentally ill people that make mistake to lead his people? You guys are not asking if some or all of those on your GB are part of this mentally ill?

What evidence do you have that they are chosen? In the case of Moses and the rest, they perform miracles, which evidence convince you that this men making mistakes are chosen?

They use manipulations to advance more manipulations

Floww23:
If they die, they won't influence anyone

Your publications said they didn't die, they are mentally Ill, and if that's the pool you choose leader's from , Doesn't that show that Some or all of them are mentally ill? Will God use mentally ill people to lead his people? Doesn't that explains the mistakes.



No which love ?

See the attached screenshot, it's JW's literally confessing that there is lack of love in the congregation and most ar changing Congregation to find peace, Toxicity.

So which love exactly are you talking about ? Is it because your members ar not allowed to come to social media and share their toxic experiences?

Everything is covered up in the name of don't taint the organisation image

This is a F00lish point from you sorry, Still doesn't answer me : Where is the evidence that they ar chosen? Show me from Bible .



Do we agree that some of those eating emblems from which you choose your leaders are Mentally Ill? With the regular mistakes showing they are not sound in mind, and the fAct we can't prove they are Chosen, everything you said here is dust

That real life experience captures it well

kinsnazzy:
You are right since bible did not comment on the use of a person blood on medical and surgical a Christian can decide to store his own blood. Thanks every one. But not the use of someone else blood for medical or surgical procedure

Still swallowing concoctions of your GODS of men in USA

highoctane:
Read the Bible book of John 6:55,56, 66-68. the gist Jesus said something very outlandish that tettered towards canablism. verse 68 is an interesting determination by those who are governed by holy spirit.
Millions have come to a conclusion that Pure spiritual resides and stays among Jehovah's earthly organisation.

That's why you people cannot full cite bible scriptures because you swallow alot of lies based on interpretation of your religious leaders than reading it for yourself.


Governing Body of Jehovah's witnesses is not Jesus. Jesus don't dish out lies as spiritual food but your Governing body does disj out lies as spiritual food.

Floww23:
There are other religions that also use this to manipulate their members, not just yours.

This is from the LDS church website

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/new-testament-seminary-teacher-manual-2023/john-6-60-71?lang=eng

A church manual to use that verse to Help people who have problems with doctrines of the LDS Church

Same thing your leaders are doing. The problem with you people is that you don't see beyond your bubble. Millions of LDS members also concluded that there's nowhere to go except Mormon church. Do you agree with them?

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Now let me address this properly - Jesus was performing a lot of miracles that others knew he came from God, What exactly is some men in Warwick doing that make you assume they are even chosen in the first place ? The same way LDs members think their Governing council was chosen

John 6:66-68 didn't talk about going to a place or being member of a religious organisation.

To whom should they go to? Not to where? Jehovah's witnesses have turn to whom to to where.

Floww23:
if ordinary Elders are not even appointed by God, it's your GB that's appointed by God ? Secret spies Join the congregation and become Elders right under your nose.

The below is a quote from Watchtower January 2016

Emphasis on ' some mistakenly think they are anointed, some have MENTAL problem ' this are the people you choose to lead you , hence the plenty mistakes

No kill me now. You dey tighten the rope too much.

Floww23:
Who appointed those spies as Elders ? Shebi you said it's God that apoint people in your organisation,answer that

E get as e be ooooo. Even the child abusers all join na work of holy spirit. I tire.

MaxInDHouse:
Nowhere to hide with their rebellious lifestyles. Ask him which church he dey go?🤣

As expected

Janosky:
You have the right to air your view but your own Bible proves that some of those false brothers,false prophets had positions of authority.

Can you look at your bible evidence
, this scenario of 2 Peter 2:1-2 & 2 Timothy 3:5-6 played out in social media recently where christendom leaders were reported for adulterous,immorality with several celebrity women conned with false teaching & immoral relationships.
That is how some people with authority in the early christian fold misused their positions to make disciples for themselves,not for Christ.)
👇


Acts 15:1,24
And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved…

Acts 20:30
Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.


2 Timothy 3:6
For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,

2 Peter 2:1,2
But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you

Would you be teaching the brethren in any congregation/
/church if you had no position of authority?


Reason on it, pls .

Act 20:28 Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers

According to Act 20:30 you quoted it says " Shall men arise" shall is a future tense.

I don't think you get the basis of the Issue , the issue wasn't about people in authority later becoming rogues , it was did Holy spirit appoint rogue Fakes as Elders in Paul's day? , or they later turn rogue but Initially were faithful?

achorladey:
E get as e be ooooo. Even the child abusers all join na work of holy spirit. I tire.

Sent you a Mail.

achorladey:
As expected

The Crazy part is Russell didn't leave the church to find an already made group to join, he started to study on his own.

achorladey:
John 6:66-68 didn't talk about going to a place or being member of a religious organisation.

To whom should they go to? Not to where? Jehovah's witnesses have turn to whom to to where.

Good catch

MaxInDHouse:
And continue to remain spies afterwards shey?
Well you guys needs Bible study with JWs because it's evident many are just following religion without knowledge.

Moses (God's prophet) sent TWELVE SPIES to Canaan and Joshua was one of them {Numbers 14:6} who later became leader of God's people the irony of the matter is Moses only saw the land from afar while Joshua (the Spy) led them into the promised land. God used Joshua to write a Bible book bearing Joshua's name o!😟

Abeg Aunty Janet humble yourself and learn from Jehovah's Witnesses!🙂

After being humble wetin again?

Your being humble they reference Joshua case regarding this matter. Load of words with no correlation

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ JWs are never ever hurt because of betrayal by those who have learned the truth in fact it makes us know that we are still in the world where Satan rules!
See what apostle John wrote about the topic:

They went out from us, but they were not of our sort; for if they had been of our sort, they would have remained with us. But they went out so that it might be shown that not all are of our sort. 1John 2:19


Ọmọ John was talking about Christians in the first century baptized and appointed as elders!

See this......

Ọmọ JWs are never ever hurt because of betrayal

Watchtower publications dey laugh you

Floww23:
Good. Those who wrote insight are not led by God , just infallible men

Finally it's clear that your Elders and GB are simply infallible men not led by God.

Thank you for your time

The guy case be like person wey dem want to roast they apply oil for body

Floww23:
It says " EVIDENTLY" not indication

Meaning of evidently

Evidently means clearly, obviously, or to all appearances, used to indicate that something is plainly true based on evidence

They are saying those writers are FALSE , and they are true.

Do you agree with them ? Or disagree as the Apostate you are ?

I like how you use their own medication for them.

They use evidently like sey they were present when those things happen. When they decide to backtrack they run away from evidently.

"Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazʹa·rus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, for I am in anguish in this blazing fire." Luke 16:24

Ó mà ṣe o!😟

The same water that millions are taking free! Revelation 22:17

MaxInDHouse:
Your PERSONAL opinion!🙂
I told you there are prophecies they are fulfilling that's why millions became submissive to them {Zechariah 8:23} but if you choose to go elsewhere no one is stopping you.
Meanwhile they have said from the onset that they can make mistakes in organizational directions because they are not infallible.
I just don't grasp which part of infallible that's so difficult for you to understand!🙂

If you don't know the meaning of APOSTATES come and stop me from following their directives nah!😀

Apostate get another meaning

MrEar:
At least he doesn't have to take permission from some white men in Warwick to live his life. When you regain freedom, sense and critical thinking let us know.

😂

Loooooool

Floww23:
Russell didn't go finding a better performing Group, he created one. Your logic is so full of dust that Even the JW founder didn't follow it.

My question is this : Do you now believe in Destiny since Judas was appointed to be a betrayal ?

The same Russell that sold Jehovah's witnesses to Jesus christ according to MaxInDHouse

MaxInDHouse:
Founder?🤣
Ọmọ calm down and reason someone can't be the founder while many of his beliefs has been changed over the years. People do keep the philosophy of real founders.

You are not ready to learn jàre so go and sort it out for yourself.🙂

For real?

Emusan:
You can see none of them could answer my questions.

Where will he turn to manufacture lies and manipulations he obtains freely from his religious leaders?

achorladey:
That's why you people cannot full cite bible scriptures because you swallow alot of lies based on interpretation of your religious leaders than reading it for yourself.


Governing Body of Jehovah's witnesses is not Jesus. Jesus don't dish out lies as spiritual food but your Governing body does disj out lies as spiritual food.

Lies like?
Correct them with biblical support.

highoctane:
Lies like?
Correct them with biblical support.

You cited a scripture, fully quote them before you advance lies with the scriptures

chatinent:
What did the Bereans do?

Thanks for this.
Even Paul didn't condemn them for openness to personal study and critical thought, questioning and conparism and coming to their personal conclusion rather than swallowing Pauls teachings and defending it blindly.

highoctane:
Lies like?
Correct them with biblical support.

In the first century Apostates were going from one place to another in search of those that submit themselves to the Christ.
Do you know why?
Well it's just to argue {Mark 9:14-16} the arguments ease their spiritual torments so each time a disciple of Christ wants to speak with an apostate they converge as if there is something they want to gain in the discussion but it's all about resistance to headship of God's anointed servants.
If you carefully observe these people you will discover that their interest isn't about getting scriptural answers to their numerous questions rather they are really disturbed that God's chosen ones have people who have submitted themselves willingly to work with them.

So when Jesus related the parable of Lazarus and the rich man he mentioned something that's noteworthy. Jesus said the rich man had five brothers {Luke 16:28} so the rich man demanded supernatural acts to help his future brothers from falling into the same condition but Abraham said if they don't believe Moses and the prophets (servants of God in their own time) neither will they believe any type of supernatural acts! Luke 16:31

So my brother let them continue in their thirst that is what Jehovah said will happen to apostates in all their generations! Isaiah 65:13-14

Whenever Jehovah's Witnesses gather for spiritual banquets Satan is not happy and just as he entered during the time of Job {Job 1:6-7} as he couldn't find a resting place (better place to worship) these apostates can't find anywhere to go so they keep on following the same organization they want to condemn bumper to bumper!🙂

Floww23:
The Crazy part is Russell didn't leave the church to find an already made group to join, he started to study on his own.

It is what they cannot deny

MaxInDHouse:
In the first century Apostates were going from one place to another in search of those that submit themselves to the Christ.
Do you know why?
Well it's just to argue {Mark 9:14-16} the arguments ease their spiritual torments so each time a disciple of Christ wants to speak with an apostate they converge as if there is something they want to gain in the discussion but it's all about resistance to headship of God's anointed servants.
If you carefully observe these people you will discover that their interest isn't about getting scriptural answers to their numerous questions rather they are really disturbed that God's chosen ones have people who have submitted themselves willingly to work with them.

So when Jesus related the parable of Lazarus and the rich man he mentioned something that's noteworthy. Jesus said the rich man had five brothers {Luke 16:28} so the rich man demanded supernatural acts to help his future brothers from falling into the same condition but Abraham said if they don't believe Moses and the prophets (servants of God in their own time) neither will they believe any type of supernatural acts! Luke 16:31

So my brother let them continue in their thirst that is what Jehovah said will happen to apostates in all their generations! Isaiah 65:13-14

Whenever Jehovah's Witnesses gather for spiritual banquets Satan is not happy and just as he entered during the time of Job {Job 1:6-7} as he couldn't find a resting place (better place to worship) these apostates can't find anywhere to go so they keep on following the same organization they want to condemn bumper to bumper!🙂

Look below......

If you carefully observe these people you will discover that their interest isn't about getting scriptural answers to their numerous questions

Times without number we have shown you people don't have answers to our questions. We know you don't even have answers in the first place that's why the exposure of your doctrines come about as a result of those questions


You came to this platform and said we are scoffers and wicked men based on Psalms 1:1

Up till today YOU cannot avoid the gatherings of wicked people and scoffers. MaxInDHouse are you happy? Psalms 1:1