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Re: Us-iran War: FG Reopens Fuel Imports, Dangote Reels From FX Losses by koladata(m): 9:17am On Mar 27
because Dangote is the only refinery and trust me baba will milk the opportunity
lordm:
I don't understand this country o.
Dangote is exporting petrol,
Why we are importing petrol
Re: Us-iran War: FG Reopens Fuel Imports, Dangote Reels From FX Losses by omoredia: 9:37am On Mar 27
Spreadlove8888:
The Nigerian government are not supplying enough cargo of crude oil that they have in the contract.
The contract said 13 to 15 cargo of oil monthly
But the Nigerian government supplies only 3 to 5 cargos

In other to keep the refinery fully operational, they(Dangoté) have to import crude oil from the international market.

And Dangote does not supply petrol to Nigeria only, but they also export to the regional and the international market in other to earn Forex and import crude oil that the government cannot provide.
Earn FX for what did he not make it look thay he was doing nigerians the biggest favour? He is a crook
Re: Us-iran War: FG Reopens Fuel Imports, Dangote Reels From FX Losses by professorPABX: 9:46am On Mar 27
Dotherightthing:
Nice one

Now let the competition begin
Which competition? Importers versus Refinery with estimated 25,000 direct and indirect employees? While competition is good between industries operating in the same sector, it is very bad to expose industry to importers. Importers should never be allowed to compete with Industry.
Re: Us-iran War: FG Reopens Fuel Imports, Dangote Reels From FX Losses by descartes400: 9:53am On Mar 27
Dogalmighty17:
That's why they call it oil futures, term contracts, fixed-volume contracts, or take-or-pay agreements. If Dangote has entered contract to supply fuel to external parties, he MUST keep to the terms of that agreement.

That's how the oil industry works. You are a crude seller or a refiner. I enter contract with you to supply me crude at a price you and I think is fair but the crude should be delivered at an agreed future date. Normally, we'd calculate what we believe crude will cost at that future date based on current happenings or trends. Irrespective of how the market turns out, you will supply me crude or refined product at the price we agreed on.
In order words, dangote refinery is saying domestic supply is not is priority!

Don't you think he should factor in domestic usage when entry into such an agreement when supplying external demands?

Now, if he has agreed to supply at a future date, a contract he must not breach and these becomes his modus operandi why neglecting domestic supply, in the both in the short and long run, this will affecting his refinery reputation in the country which will lead to government taking countermeasures just as they have done by reopening fuel importation.
Re: Us-iran War: FG Reopens Fuel Imports, Dangote Reels From FX Losses by Lithiumite: 10:10am On Mar 27
lordm:
I don't understand this country o.
Dangote is exporting petrol,
Why we are importing petrol
It pays dangote more to export and earn dollars than sell to you in naira.....if not the naira for crude deal initiated by this govt,you would have been paying even more than you are now for petrol... Dangote is only being alarmist and that's why he musnt be allowed to have a monopoly..... Govt can't force him on how much to sell his petrol that's why govt is allowing those who have the means to import to do so they can compete with dangote.
Re: Us-iran War: FG Reopens Fuel Imports, Dangote Reels From FX Losses by Gboss247(m): 10:13am On Mar 27
Dotherightthing:
Nice one

Now let the competition begin
While other countries government are subsidizing petroleum products, removing excise taxes. You are here quoting imaginary competition while the prices increases every week.
Re: Us-iran War: FG Reopens Fuel Imports, Dangote Reels From FX Losses by Gboss247(m): 10:14am On Mar 27
patrickcollins:
He only reduces price when others are importing fuel, that's why monopoly is not good in business.
Where is the monopoly?
Re: Us-iran War: FG Reopens Fuel Imports, Dangote Reels From FX Losses by Gboss247(m): 10:15am On Mar 27
Parachoko:
I'm never in favour of supporting total ban on importation of fuel because of our past experiences on issues like this.

What I don't understand is why the oil companies are not willing to sell to Dangote if he's ready to pay in dollars.
Did you expect oil companies to divert crude meant for there foreign refineries abroad to sell to Dangote in Nigeria?
Re: Us-iran War: FG Reopens Fuel Imports, Dangote Reels From FX Losses by Albertone(m): 10:16am On Mar 27
omoredia:
What part of Dangote refinery is being affected to reduce supply to the Nigerian markets.

Crude is local
Refinery is local
Labour is local
Market is local

Dangote should explain
Crude is local but is being sold to Dangote at global rates(global prices, insurance costs, freight charges). Exactly the amount international buyers purchase it.

Labour is local but earnings of some top level staffs matches their counterparts’ earnings internationally.

Dangote operates not only in local markets. He exports refined oil too. After all, he still imports crude and will want foreign exchange earnings.
Re: Us-iran War: FG Reopens Fuel Imports, Dangote Reels From FX Losses by Gboss247(m): 10:16am On Mar 27
gigabyte13:
At least, prices will come down, Dangote cannot hold the country hostage.
As he don enjoy sef, make him too bear the losses in whatever form in the main time, as greed wan finish am.
Crude you no dey important
You still dey carry price go heaven
Baba rest, let the country breathe.
Prices will come from ₦1,400 to ₦2,000!
Re: Us-iran War: FG Reopens Fuel Imports, Dangote Reels From FX Losses by WiseBizInvestor(f): 10:18am On Mar 27
I think it's thq quota of imported fuel that they'll have to increase.
callmeDDD:
But they never ban them before na. They still import to the best of my knowledge. Issuing new licenses does not mean they lift importation ban. It is now if you get chest put am .
Re: Us-iran War: FG Reopens Fuel Imports, Dangote Reels From FX Losses by Image123(m): 10:19am On Mar 27
Dogalmighty17:
That's why they call it oil futures, term contracts, fixed-volume contracts, or take-or-pay agreements. If Dangote has entered contract to supply fuel to external parties, he MUST keep to the terms of that agreement.

That's how the oil industry works. You are a crude seller or a refiner. I enter contract with you to supply me crude at a price you and I think is fair but the crude should be delivered at an agreed future date. Normally, we'd calculate what we believe crude will cost at that future date based on current happenings or trends. Irrespective of how the market turns out, you will supply me crude or refined product at the price we agreed on.
You might be surprised that they're not interested in understanding.
Re: Us-iran War: FG Reopens Fuel Imports, Dangote Reels From FX Losses by Albertone(m): 10:22am On Mar 27
Parachoko:
I'm never in favour of supporting total ban on importation of fuel because of our past experiences on issues like this.

What I don't understand is why the oil companies are not willing to sell to Dangote if he's ready to pay in dollars.
Many reasons but, oil companies already have standing contracts with international trading houses long before Dangote came. They simply don’t have “free oil” to sell.

There are other economic reasons too.
Re: Us-iran War: FG Reopens Fuel Imports, Dangote Reels From FX Losses by Jayhome24: 10:23am On Mar 27
Good I'm beginning to hate hate Dangote very seriously so kudos to the Fed govt on this et the ompetitin begin enough of Dangote controlig everything making himself Elon Shit Musk bitch here.

Surprisingly this greedy man has no single Nigerian in his top management so let him go to the country of those his bitch management who want o put Nigerians under economy slavery in the name of fuel and sell his damn fuel there.

Fed govt should issue more licence to whoever wish to do fuel business ...
Re: Us-iran War: FG Reopens Fuel Imports, Dangote Reels From FX Losses by cyberguy72(m): 10:29am On Mar 27
lordm:
I don't understand this country o.
Dangote is exporting petrol,
Why we are importing petrol
A very sad situation...i just pity DANGOTE.He shld sell off his refinery
Re: Us-iran War: FG Reopens Fuel Imports, Dangote Reels From FX Losses by omoredia: 10:36am On Mar 27
Albertone:
Crude is local but is being sold to Dangote at global rates(global prices, insurance costs, freight charges). Exactly the amount international buyers purchase it.

Labour is local but earnings of some top level staffs matches their counterparts’ earnings internationally.

Dangote operates not only in local markets. He exports refined oil too. After all, he still imports crude and will want foreign exchange earnings.
He should close shop nah since imported was even cheaper that the ones being produced locally. He is a very greedy
Re: Us-iran War: FG Reopens Fuel Imports, Dangote Reels From FX Losses by cyberguy72(m): 10:37am On Mar 27
erniok2:
Make una dey read before commenting make we no dey shame for una.

Dangote can supply the whole country but he's getting far less than the 15 barges agreed to meet demand
Has he complained? lets stop making slimpsy excuses joor
Re: Us-iran War: FG Reopens Fuel Imports, Dangote Reels From FX Losses by carzeem1: 10:44am On Mar 27
Where will the importer get fuel cheaper than Dangotehuhhuh
Every where don choke. No one importing can beat Dangote again.

The man na the smartest, manipulative, shrewdest businessman in the African continent.
Re: Us-iran War: FG Reopens Fuel Imports, Dangote Reels From FX Losses by carzeem1: 10:50am On Mar 27
descartes400:
In order words, dangote refinery is saying domestic supply is not is priority!

Don't you think he should factor in domestic usage when entry into such an agreement when supplying external demands?

Now, if he has agreed to supply at a future date, a contract he must not breach and these becomes his modus operandi why neglecting domestic supply, in the both in the short and long run, this will affecting his refinery reputation in the country which will lead to government taking countermeasures just as they have done by reopening fuel importation.
Too late, unless the Government wants to subsidise dollars for another investor to build a refinery which will take another 7-10 years. Dangote has the Nigeria economy by the scrotvm. He can squeeze and release as he deems fit.
Re: Us-iran War: FG Reopens Fuel Imports, Dangote Reels From FX Losses by fineboynl(m): 10:58am On Mar 27
lordm:
I don't understand this country o.
Dangote is exporting petrol,
Why we are importing petrol
dangote abandoned local market. When he saw opportunity from a better offer in international market. He increased the price.
Re: Us-iran War: FG Reopens Fuel Imports, Dangote Reels From FX Losses by carzeem1: 10:59am On Mar 27
gigabyte13:
At least, prices will come down, Dangote cannot hold the country hostage.
As he don enjoy sef, make him too bear the losses in whatever form in the main time, as greed wan finish am.
Crude you no dey important
You still dey carry price go heaven
Baba rest, let the country breathe.
How will an importer get petrol cheaper in dollars than someone who refines here, pays cheaper labour, and reduced logistics through cng trucks.

Factor in the war happening in the gulf which has already choked supply worldwide!
The Nigerian government is just playing to the gallery to give an appearance of activity.
They are all clueless rogues.

My honest opinion is Dangote is still humane with the present pricing.
Re: Us-iran War: FG Reopens Fuel Imports, Dangote Reels From FX Losses by jevraj: 11:02am On Mar 27
Let the economists of the house explain to us in lay man's language.
Nigeria has crude,
Nigeria has refineries,
Dangote buys crude in Naira.
How does the fuel global market affects our price. What could be d case if we could not have crude & refineries. What is d fate of a country with neither crude or refineries compared to us
Re: Us-iran War: FG Reopens Fuel Imports, Dangote Reels From FX Losses by cyberguy72(m): 12:49pm On Mar 27
Lithiumite:
It pays dangote more to export and earn dollars than sell to you in naira.....if not the naira for crude deal initiated by this govt,you would have been paying even more than you are now for petrol... Dangote is only being alarmist and that's why he musnt be allowed to have a monopoly..... Govt can't force him on how much to sell his petrol that's why govt is allowing those who have the means to import to do so they can compete with dangote.
Can u listen to yourself..at the detriment of ur foreign exchange.Importation of fuel is totally uncalled for..u re just enriching other countries.And besides these guys wud definitely import substard inferior fuel so as to make huge profit.
Re: Us-iran War: FG Reopens Fuel Imports, Dangote Reels From FX Losses by Lithiumite: 12:59pm On Mar 27
cyberguy72:
Can u listen to yourself..at the detriment of ur foreign exchange.Importation of fuel is totally uncalled for..u re just enriching other countries.And besides these guys wud definitely import substard inferior fuel so as to make huge profit.
So what do you do if dangote isn't ready to meet domestic requirements.....why haven't other refineries come up since collecting licence to now govt is allowing imports as a stop gap measures to stop you from being dependent on only dangote you are still complaining.
Re: Us-iran War: FG Reopens Fuel Imports, Dangote Reels From FX Losses by fxexperts: 2:24pm On Mar 27
omoredia:
What part of Dangote refinery is being affected to reduce supply to the Nigerian markets.

Crude is local
Refinery is local
Labour is local
Market is local

Dangote should explain
. Did you give him the so-called local crude? When he buys his crude from the US at a high price, you expect him to sell it to you cheaply at a loss. Or do you think the IOC will want to sell crude to Dangote at a very low price when they can sell it at the international market at a high cost? If you were the IOC, would you sell at the highest or the lowest price?

gigabyte13:
At least, prices will come down, Dangote cannot hold the country hostage.
As he don enjoy sef, make him too bear the losses in whatever form in the main time, as greed wan finish am.
Crude you no dey important
You still dey carry price go heaven
Baba rest, let the country breathe.
Your Papa give am crude? most of you people love to talk anyhow.
Re: Us-iran War: FG Reopens Fuel Imports, Dangote Reels From FX Losses by gigabyte13: 3:00pm On Mar 27
fxexperts:
. Did you give him the so-called local crude? When he buys his crude from the US at a high price, you expect him to sell it to you cheaply at a loss. Or do you think the IOC will want to sell crude to Dangote at a very low price when they can sell it at the international market at a high cost? If you were the IOC, would you sell at the highest or the lowest price?

Your Papa give am crude? most of you people love to talk anyhow.
Let me respect your Father, i want to believe he trained you well to respect other people's father but na you just decide to be a vagabond.
Can't you make your point without exposing your father .....huhhuh??
Re: Us-iran War: FG Reopens Fuel Imports, Dangote Reels From FX Losses by commoditiesnig(m): 3:44pm On Mar 27
Dotherightthing:
Nice one

Now let the competition begin
Exactly.. while I have high regard for Dangote, let other players bring in pms as well, for healthy competition

Way to go
Re: Us-iran War: FG Reopens Fuel Imports, Dangote Reels From FX Losses by Spreadlove8888(m): 6:02pm On Mar 27
omoredia:
Earn FX for what did he not make it look thay he was doing nigerians the biggest favour? He is a crook
Dongote is a businessman and not a politician, he is after his profits and gains.

All these interviews are just to win the confidence in the hearth of Nigerians.

If he has to work for Nigerians, the government should give him the 100% support he needed or else his company will stop working.

I said earlier that the Nigerian government is not supplying the adequate cargo of crude oil that is needed to keep the refinery fully operational.

He is not to be blamed here, because he has to look for international sellers and he also needs forex to buy it.
Re: Us-iran War: FG Reopens Fuel Imports, Dangote Reels From FX Losses by fxexperts: 6:46pm On Mar 27
gigabyte13:
Let me respect your Father, i want to believe he trained you well to respect other people's father but na you just decide to be a vagabond.
Can't you make your point without exposing your father .....huhhuh??
How did I insult your father in that comment na. You people cant spot the difference between insult and just talk.
Re: Us-iran War: FG Reopens Fuel Imports, Dangote Reels From FX Losses by AlphaTaikun: 12:11am On Mar 28
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