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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m): 10:10am On Mar 29
Ijebos:

https://www.nairaland.com/8643415/what-me-husband-gained-after

Not too late to retrace your steps.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 10:31am On Mar 29
basilico:
Argentina has a lot of unanswered questions about where their black slaves went. There are claims they were sent to the front lines the way King David sent Uriah the Hitite to the fronlines after impregnating his wife Bethsheba.
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Argentina annihilated its black population.

America and Israel know this is the usual UN bashing by Muslims to cover up their role in the slave trade.
Most Europeans don't have oil plus their cultural enrichment efforts to obtain the Muslim vote at home means they abstained

That's enough for today from me.
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It is stoopid to say that this is a Muslim thing.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 10:32am On Mar 29
ono:
Ijebos:

https://www.nairaland.com/8643415/what-me-husband-gained-after

Not too late to retrace your steps.
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What do you gain by this?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m): 10:43am On Mar 29
DeepSight:
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What do you gain by this?
Not my gain. It's his. And because the Lord wants him to do this, He loved him, He has sent someone like him (ijebos) to come out in the open and show others the way to their redemption.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 10:47am On Mar 29
ono:
Not my gain. It's his. And because the Lord wants him to do this, He loved him, He has sent someone like him (ijebos) to come out in the open and show others the way to their redemption.
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On what ground do you attempt to cast him as gay repeatedly?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by TV01(m): 10:47am On Mar 29
ono:
At the time of the writing of the books of Ephesians and Colossians, the Romans were the sole superpower of the world. Slavery was the norm.....never frowned at in the society as it is today.

We discussed the evolution of Christianity earlier on. I thought you already acknowledged that the Christians have evolved through the ages to become the most accommodating, compassionate, loving and heaven-ward looking religion on earth as things stand today.
Could you make the distinction between what people do or their practices, and what Christianity\The Bible\NT actually preaches and instructs Christians to do?. I repeat, Christianity has not "evolved".

The whole charge against ee.slam is that what its texts prescribes, its very tenets are evil and the driver of moose.slim practice.

I can put my money where my mouth is. Even to those who would misrepresent me or my faith. £250 to anyone who can show me wrong in any of the following;

1. An evil, wicked or harmful practice in the NT (not just slavery) or prescribed for Christians that Christians have evolved away from.
2. Why Christians fought and died to abolish slavery when as claimed the bible supports it?

So again, the Scriptures remain unchanged. There have been and will always be departures from scripture by those who call themselves Christians or claim to follow Christ. Different sects and denominations may adopt certain unscriptural practices, but the faith first delivered to the saints however remains.

Just like we don't judge ee.slam by individual sects or personal practice, but what its texts say, likewise the Christian texts are there for all to read.

See free money - and nobody has to sell anybody to claim it cool


TV
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 10:53am On Mar 29
basilico:
So there should be no Iran oil. 90% goes to China. If it won't go there Chinese will be forced to bid for higher prices from other nations driving the global prices up.
Please don't provide false narratives after the fact. The fact is stu3p1d Trump never reads and yawns through security and intelligence briefings. When I said it here multiple times, e.e.ed10t5 like you thought it was conspiracy.

If he read or paid attention, how did he miss that an attack on Iran will lead to asymmetric war by way of attacks on the GCC countries, followed up by closure of the Strait of Hormuz? The effect of that was immediate spike in oil prices due to a stranglehold on supply. Even I mentioned this many times.

Now you are telling us he made a move to counter events he was already told will happen upon a strike.

Why do you think previous Presidents chose diplomacy?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m):
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m): 11:29am On Mar 29
TV01:
Could you make the distinction between what people do or their practices, and what Christianity\The Bible\NT actually preaches and instructs Christians to do?. I repeat, Christianity has not "evolved".

The whole charge against ee.slam is that what its texts prescribes, its very tenets are evil and the driver of moose.slim practice.

I can put my money where my mouth is. Even to those who would misrepresent me or my faith. £250 to anyone who can show me wrong in any of the following;

1. An evil, wicked or harmful practice in the NT (not just slavery) or prescribed for Christians that Christians have evolved away from.
2. Why Christians fought and died to abolish slavery when as claimed the bible supports it?

So again, the Scriptures remain unchanged. There have been and will always be departures from scripture by those who call themselves Christians or claim to follow Christ. Different sects and denominations may adopt certain unscriptural practices, but the faith first delivered to the saints however remains.

Just like we don't judge ee.slam by individual sects or personal practice, but what its texts say, likewise the Christian texts are there for all to read.

See free money - and nobody has to sell anybody to claim it cool


TV
The bold part. Are you saying Christians still practice slavery today? If yes, can you show me an example where this is practiced? It is important that we understand each other so we don't waste time trying to reason out of context.

For the point 2 you listed - abolishment of slavery, like I pointed out in one of my responses to DeepSight, the Holy Spirit of the Most High is still working in the hearts and minds of those that truly believe and are willing to be led by Him . It is the Spirit that leads, Just like Jesus said He would do to those that believe when Christ ascended up in glory.

John 14:26 (KJV)
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things..


You have to come to that realisation that the Spirit of the Lord is active and alive today working in the hearts and minds of those that love the Lord. It is He who guides us. The Holy Spirit is behind all that we have achieved and accomplished as a civilisation - the Western Civilisation. It is the Spirit of the Lord that works actively to bring about positive changes to societies (if you will believe this), including the abolishment of slavery, empowerment of the weak, promotion of egalitarian and just societies and all that is positive and true. You will observe that all these are at the foundations of Western Civilisation that Islam is hell bent on destroying.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 11:33am On Mar 29
ono:
Bas, Raum, Benalvi, check this out.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monica_Witt

I found out after reading this:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/the-iranian-spy-recruitment-hub-operating-in-london/ar-AA1ZC8xU?ocid=winp2fptaskbarhover&cvid=90a84178cdfa46c68914a70647bbe2c0&ei=10
Are you pointing out something that MOSSAD, The CIA and MI6 haven't been doing four decades?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m): 11:34am On Mar 29
DeepSight:
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On what ground do you attempt to cast him as gay repeatedly?
Oh, I am not the one who cast him as gay. I understand that himself came out in the open, and as my people will say "with his full chest", to say he's gay.

Let him come and tell us he's not - and I will humbly apologise stop my outbursts and attacks against an innocent man.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 11:39am On Mar 29
TV01:
Could you make the distinction between what people do or their practices, and what Christianity\The Bible\NT actually preaches and instructs Christians to do?. I repeat, Christianity has not "evolved".
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This is ahistorical.

The Bible contains teachings such as that commanding the murder of so called witches and injunctions authorizing slavery and these have been implemented by Christians through the ages to disastrous effect through the witch hunts where the refrain "suffer not a witch to live" (Exodus 22:18) was deployed for centuries and through the slave trade where biblical verses were deployed as well in defense of and authorization of slavery.

That Christians today reject these is evolution.

1. An evil, wicked or harmful practice in the NT (not just slavery) or prescribed for Christians that Christians have evolved away from.
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The very fact that you have to exempt slavery when presenting this dubious challenge shows you to be acting fraudulently.

2. Why Christians fought and died to abolish slavery when as claimed the bible supports it?
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In the natural moral evolution of humans they gradually come to recognize certain things as barbaric and abandon them.

PS: The distinction you and others strive to make between the OT and NT is futile for Christ himself said that he came not to abolish the law but to fulfill it.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m): 11:40am On Mar 29
nateevs:
Are you pointing out something that MOSSAD, The CIA and MI6 haven't been doing four decades?
Well, I get you. It's a tit for tat world out there.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 11:45am On Mar 29
ono:
Oh, I am not the one who cast him as gay. I understand that himself came out in the open, and as my people will say "with his full chest", to say he's gay.

Let him come and tell us he's not - and I will humbly apologise stop my outbursts and attacks against an innocent man.
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Where did he so come out or is this hearsay. Provide the link.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GloriousGbola: 11:51am On Mar 29
DeepSight:
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This is ahistorical.

The Bible contains teachings such as that commanding the murder of so called witches and injunctions authorizing slavery and these have been implemented by Christians through the ages to disastrous effect through the witch hunts where the refrain "suffer not a witch to live" (Exodus 22:18) was deployed for centuries and through the slave trade where biblical verses were deployed as well in defense of and authorization of slavery.

That Christians today reject these is evolution.


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The very fact that you have to exempt slavery when presenting this dubious challenge shows you to be acting fraudulently.


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In the natural moral evolution of humans they gradually come to recognize certain things as barbaric and abandon them.

PS: The distinction you and others strive to make between the OT and NT is futile for Christ himself said that he came not to abolish the law but to fulfill it.
https://www.bbc.com/pidgin/articles/c625xw27d2vo

Helen Ukpabio in the chat

stop those child witches from destroying your destiny!!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 11:56am On Mar 29
Imagine taking the right wingers on this thread as your source of information and then you end up looking like a clown? Lol
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 12:00pm On Mar 29
GloriousGbola:
https://www.bbc.com/pidgin/articles/c625xw27d2vo

Helen Ukpabio in the chat

stop those child witches from destroying your destiny!!
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Sad.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m): 12:03pm On Mar 29
DeepSight:
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Where did he so come out or is this hearsay. Provide the link.
https://www.nairaland.com/search?q=ijebos+is+gay&search=Search

Why do I have this feeling that Ijebos = DeepSight?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 12:23pm On Mar 29
A 100–0 vote and somehow it’s still the other side’s fault. That’s exactly why people are so fed up right now. At some point, both sides agree to fix a problem, but the messaging afterward by republicans turns into finger-pointing instead of accountability.

It is obvious that they care less about solutions and more about controlling the narrative. If everyone agreed, then own it. That’s what people actually want, less spin, more honesty. They can’t be honest to save their own lives. Compulsive compunctionless liars.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 12:28pm On Mar 29
ono:
https://www.nairaland.com/search?q=ijebos+is+gay&search=Search
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Thank you for wasting my time. After looking through I can't find any post that says what you claim.

Why do I have this feeling that Ijebos = DeepSight?
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You can think whatever you like.
I have a record on this board dating back to 2009.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m): 12:33pm On Mar 29
DeepSight:
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Thank you for wasting my time. After looking through I can't find any post that says what you claim.


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You can think whatever you like.
I have a record on this board dating back to 2009.
What about this from bemeruca?

bemeruca:
IjeBos is not pride of Lincoln of Lincoln had a daughter that was 38 years old then, another that just graduated in 2021 and one that is a nurse. Then he had 3 children from another woman, two girls and a son. He was married 3 times. Ijebos is gay
as per my equating you to Ijebos, It's just a feeling I have. Could be true or false, bros. I do not intend to cause any hurt.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 12:35pm On Mar 29
ono:
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You said he came out openly with his full chest. Why are you now sending quotes from a bemeruca who I already saw made that accusation ad infinitum ad nauseum?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m): 12:38pm On Mar 29
DeepSight:
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You said he came out openly with his full chest. Why are you now sending quotes from a bemeruca who I already saw made that accusation ad infinitum ad nauseum?
You know what? Let's wait for him to come and disprove this claim. Is that OK?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 12:40pm On Mar 29
ono:
https://www.nairaland.com/search?q=ijebos+is+gay&search=Search

Why do I have this feeling that Ijebos = DeepSight?
Deepsight is not Ijebos. Ijebos could never say anything wrong against Islam, even if he created another 30 handles.
Not because he doesn't know ior knows but because conservatives critique Islam. He can never side with conservatives, they are all vile
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m): 12:40pm On Mar 29
DeepSight:
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This is ahistorical.

The Bible contains teachings such as that commanding the murder of so called witches and injunctions authorizing slavery and these have been implemented by Christians through the ages to disastrous effect through the witch hunts where the refrain "suffer not a witch to live" (Exodus 22:18) was deployed for centuries and through the slave trade where biblical verses were deployed as well in defense of and authorization of slavery.

That Christians today reject these is evolution.

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The very fact that you have to exempt slavery when presenting this dubious challenge shows you to be acting fraudulently.

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In the natural moral evolution of humans they gradually come to recognize certain things as barbaric and abandon them.

PS: The distinction you and others strive to make between the OT and NT is futile for Christ himself said that he came not to abolish the law but to fulfill it.
Good points for the most parts. Well done!

But the statement in bold appears to not apply to the adherents of Islam, what say you?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m): 12:42pm On Mar 29
basilico:
Deepsight is not Ijebos. Ijebos could never say anything wrong against Islam, even if he created another 30 handles.
Not because he doesn't know ior knows but because conservatives critique Islam. He can never side with conservatives, they are all vile
Noted. Apologies to DeepSight.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 1:04pm On Mar 29
ono:
Good points for the most parts. Well done!

But the statement in bold appears to not apply to the adherents of Islam, what say you?
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It is a pity that there is much that is very backward about this religion. And more so since it once experienced a golden age when it was the leading light of much advanced thought in the world.

Sadly it has been unable to shake off the tendency towards misogyny/ gender apartheid as well as a very violent streak which is taken straight from the pages of its scripture. The insistence on dictating what women wear in many Islamic countries, and the fact that in a place like Saudi Arabia until very very recently they were even denied the right to drive, is very telling. Many women in these theocratic places cannot even travel or move at all without permission from a male, what is that?

Beyond that look at the application of Shariah law in Northern Nigeria. It has been used to lock up several non Muslims for years - for alleged blasphemy in a supposedly secular country with constitutional freedom of speech, freedom of expression, freedom of thought, conscience and religion? Look at the gruesome murder of Deborah, a Christian student in Northern Nigeria by a Muslim mob. Those who did it were on camera and they went scot free, even the governor justified it.

The truth is that this religion has an explicit creeping doctrine in which it seeks the total subjugation of the world to Islamic tenets. And in this they are specifically guided to appear moderate and gentle when in the minority but to become belligerent when in the majority. This is where the practice of Taqiyya often comes in. Telling lies to defend oneself and to defend Islam when in a weak position. But once they are in the majority, no one can truly be safe in terms of the rights we understand to be standard in the modern world.

Look at the practice of honor killing for example. What can we say of that.

There is too much that Islam has not evolved past and frankly it is still dwelling in the medieval world.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 1:05pm On Mar 29
ono:
You know what? Let's wait for him to come and disprove this claim. Is that OK?
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Very well, although I doubt he will bother and if I were him I would not either.

Claims made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m): 1:08pm On Mar 29
DeepSight:
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It is a pity that there is much that is very backward about this religion. And more so since it once experienced a golden age when it was the leading light of much advanced thought in the world.

Sadly it has been unable to shake off the tendency towards misogyny/ gender apartheid as well as a very violent streak which is taken straight from the pages of its scripture. The insistence on dictating what women wear in many Islamic countries, and the fact that in a place like Saudi Arabia until very very recently they were even denied the right to drive, is very telling. Many women in these theocratic places cannot even travel or move at all without permission from a male, what is that?

Beyond that look at the application of Shariah law in Northern Nigeria. It has been used to lock up several non Muslims for years - for alleged blasphemy in a supposedly secular country with constitutional freedom of speech, freedom of expression, freedom of thought, conscience and religion? Look at the gruesome murder of Deborah, a Christian student in Northern Nigeria by a Muslim mob. Those who did it were on camera and they went scot free, even the governor justified it.

The truth is that this religion has an explicit creeping doctrine in which it seeks the total subjugation of the world to Islamic tenets. And in this they are specifically guided to appear moderate and gentle when in the minority but to become belligerent when in the majority. This is where the practice of Taqiyya often comes in. Telling lies to defend oneself and to defend Islam when in a weak position. But once they are in the majority, no one can truly be safe in terms of the rights we understand to be standard in the modern world.

Look at the practice of honor killing for example. What can we say of that.

There is too much that Islam has not evolved past and frankly it is still dwelling in the medieval world.
Very well articulated details about the crimes of Islam. Cannot add anything. I can only say those defending the religion need to have their brains examined. And those of them that claim they're peace loving should take time out to examine their conscience and tell themselves they're in the right or wrong circle.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 1:18pm On Mar 29
ono:
You know what? Let's wait for him to come and disprove this claim. Is that OK?
Why? What does it matter to this thread if is true or false?

Why the ph0.uck does it matter to this thread?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 1:45pm On Mar 29
DeepSight:
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On what ground do you attempt to cast him as gay repeatedly?
Ask him why he posted a photo of him and his boyfriend on a date
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