₦airaland Forum

bayelsaowei:
1. It is not possible for the Igbos to change the culture of South Africans. They can’t even achieve that in Nigeria, talk more of SA. It seems the SA’s are just been paranoid due to other reasons. I would take my time to research more on this Igbo people vs SA feud.

bayelsaowei:
3. I repeat. Nigerias core problem is corruption and not because we are diverse.
Corruption is the root cause. It’s the reason why we don’t have constant power, we deal with bad roads, poor education, poor health system etc.

4. Your problem is with Islam and its practitioners. Leave multiculturalism out of it.

Maybe na to give you one Saudi aramco or Qatar energy job make you call down remain. You’d love it and love them.

😂😂😂😅😅

benalvino3:
You are missing the point. The land they went to and inaugurated a king in already has a king. Igbo culture is foreign; they are trying to coexist with their own culture in SA, which is why the locals want every foreigner to leave. That's the cultural conflict you are seeing. No one is saying they are trying to change South African culture. To assimilate means to recognize the culture you are in and embrace it.



My problem is not Islam, like I said, I was angry at south Africans because I dislike them then I found out what happened. Islam is unique because their religion does not allow them to assimilate, they might be quiet till they have the numbers.

Islam in various contexts often center on doctrinal incompatibility with secular/liberal norms.

Yoruba people no want bayelsa man to rule, Igbos they fight, hausa dey do their own. The country is corrupt it does not mean the multicultural frame work of this country is not a problem.

Polarization and division everywhere.


With the Saudi job or Qatar, can you go and evangelise as a Christian?

ijebosb:
Ono someone said they saw you having dinner with another man.
He said because you two were having dinner alone together and you paid the bill you were gay.
Prove that you are not gay.

Obrigardo:
People, this is the time for the shift.

Netanyahu is dead and now we know he funded Hamas to keep them away from Fatah in the west bank.

These zionists destroyed so much of our current reality that it will be so foolhardy to support these satanists at this current times.

Everyone needs to adjust right now and get your priorities right.

ono:
I think that you are mixing up a lot of things. There some "word problems" here too making us to not understand each other. I'll be back. Need to attend to some urgent stuff.

ono:
There's something about your posts dear friend TV01. I don't like the zig zag way my brain goes trying to process your line of thoughts. Can you please pardon me when I don't respond to your calls? Please, do not take offense.

TV01:
You should speak for yourself. I have nothing mixed up and am clear in my position. You are free to disagree with me, but failure to understand is for you to deal with. By reading carefully or asking questions. I'll try one last time.

1.
The gospel of The Lord Jesus Christ does not command or consent to slavery. Not the NT as a whole, or The Lord Jesus Christ in particular (or the Apostle Paul). In fact, as I have shown you, it's the very opposite.

2.
Some individuals or sects (mostly historically) who claimed to be Christian or followers of Christ tried to use the bible to justify slavery. The distinction between what the Bible teaches and what some tried to force it to say. or acts they tried to use the bible too justify, does not change 1. above.

3.
If indeed the bible teaches that slavery is good or acceptable, it cannot be from God. If it requires men to update, improve or discard it's teachings to ensure "neighbours are loved" and that "no harm is done to anyone", then it cannot be from God.

The Bible describes God as "Perfect in All His Ways" and The Lord Jesus Christ as "The same yesterday, today and forever", are you willing to claim God's message in Jesus Christ was not perfect, that it had to "evolve" to be fit for purpose? Or that the Gospel of The Lord requires changes to be acceptable? Please think carefully

4.
If you say the bible endorses slavery, than Christians fighting to abolish slavery and going as far as waging war to do so are effectively rebelling against God, sinning and not even Christians. And a bit daft for dying to eradicate something claimed to be acceptable in God's book.


And that is fine. This is a public discussion forum, there is no obligation. I was of a mind not to reply, but as a courtesy. Feel free to respond directly to any of the points I have made above if you are wont or able. If not, happy for us to draw a line under it here. May be my bad, but I cannot be any clearer.


TV

budaatum:
Funny that I heard you claim loud and clear that one should make the distinction between what people do or their practices, and what Islam\The Quran actually preaches and instructs Muslims to do.

budaatum:
Incidentally, all religions evolve. Or at least most adherents to religions evolve. They'd be rather stǔpid not to and keep doing what a book written over a 1000 years ago tells them to do.

Obrigardo:
This was in cpac, a republican convention.
A man in drag.

We need to top engaging mag cultists for our mental health. Lets stop talking to mad people.

(Moderator stop banning under the guise of anti spam. Makes you look ridiculous on a paper forum like this)

bayelsaowei:
1. I think the whole King thing in SA might be misunderstood or misinterpreted by the SA people. They see it as a threat to an existing rulership structure. What I think the Ibos may have done is select a mediator for themselves in that SA community to address their Perculiar needs and interest. These Ese-like figures are usually selected by Ibo diasporans even in the UK, US and some other locations.

What I think has worsened the scenario in SA, is the existing xenophobia. They should find a way to engage each other wholesomely and align. Ibos are not going to take over their institutionalized kingship and I am sure they do respect the existing structure. 😂😂😂…they should calm down abeg.

bayelsaowei:
2. Like I said. Nigerias greatest problem is corruption and not because it is multi cultural. Multiculturalism is not the reason why 80% of Nigerians earn below 200k naira.

3. I can actually gather to worship in Saudi or Qatar than in Russia or North Korea.

So please better collect that aramco job and QE job. Earn in hundreds of thousands of usd, tax free.

🤣🤣😂😂

Obrigardo:
Stop engaging mentally ill people, I mean the maga cultists. Better we do this on Twitter where we are sure thousands or millions will be affected or reactive to your post.

Please don't waste time on these maga people here.

bayelsaowei:
But they’ll pray to God (e.g Hegseth) that God helps them obliterate the Iranians, hoping God listens to it. Then after that they go ahead and cover up what they’ve done with Epstein and then suffer poor Americans.

God must be really patient with these guys.

bayelsaowei:
What is doing this one?

This baba never see anything yet.

benalvino3:
Why is the Igbo community forming? If you move to another country and still require a chief or king-like figure from your homeland to resolve issues, that’s not assimilation. It’s a problem.

There are no Amayanabo in a tribe from Bayelsa holding a King title in any Igbo land in Nigeria to solve disputes of the Bayelsa people in the Igbo states. We Africans believe in mob justice, jungle Justice. They are blaming the foreigners for taking their jobs, whereas the foreigners are mostly self-employed.



You cannot evangelize in Saudi Arabia; you can gather in private, but you cannot be seen trying to convert or preach to a muslim. They go spai you. In Pakistan, they will put a tyre on your neck and light it.

Same people complaining that Trump reduced the income tax are talking about tax-free income in Qatar 😂😂😂

Multiculturalism adds another layer of corruption and favoritism in the country, allowing underqualified people to occupy important positions while accountability gets ignored, depending on a person’s tribe. For example, Yoruba people might claim criticism of Tinubu is due to his Yoruba heritage, yet they had no issue criticizing Goodluck Jonathan because he is from Bayelsa. Combine that with how quickly tensions can escalate into civil conflict in many African nations.

If there is a Power vacuum, you will see different groups killing themselves to be the power holder. Look at Syria, Libya

ono:
Propaganda. Israeli President Herzog came to address this matter recently - in a clear and concise manner.

bayelsaowei:
I doubt one can also evangelize in North Korea Russia, China and some other authoritarian governments. It’s not only associated with Islamic countries. But I would rather reside in one of these golf countries than exist in North Korea, Eritrea..

You are the one seeing the Eze nomination as a problem, because you and the SA folks see it as a threat. The undertone is xenophobia and hatred for neighbors.

If a country has strong institutions that can curtail corruption, then no one has to worry about multiculturalism. Because that isn’t the problem. Weak institutions are!!!. Favoritism and poor accountability thrives generally when institutions that should fight corruption are docile. You trying to connect multiculturalism to corruption doesn’t actually stick. If a system is corrupt then it is corrupt by all, not because of diversity.

Countries that are highly anti multicultural are not the best and most prosperous countries in the world. That’s a fact. So I tire for you and this argument.

TV01:
The Christian texts do not teach, accept or endorse slavery. Yes, some who claimed Christianity claimed it did, probably like Deepsight is doing, selected, decontextualised readings for their own selfish and wicked purposes.

The islamic texts are clear, chattel and s3cs slavery are fine, well earned booty.

TV01:
Think for a moment what that power affords a man who is any combination of immature, neurotic, lacking n self control, empathy or a real love for his wife. Just stressed, angry or high even.

TV01:
Why are you blowing up my mentions - all weekend. Persistence however often demands a response . To make the point and for any reading.

Which is exactly what I have done in my posts on The Christian message and slavery.

The Gospel is clear, nutshellingly so . Love God......love your neighbour...all the law is fulfilled in love...God is love...Jesus fulfilled the law...love does no harm to your neighbour...All searchable in the NKJV of the Bible.

The Christian texts do not teach, accept or endorse slavery. Yes, some who claimed Christianity claimed it did, probably like Deepsight is doing, selected, decontextualised readings for their own selfish and wicked purposes.

The islamic texts are clear, chattel and s3cs slavery are fine, well earned booty. The fact that some moose.slims openly or codedly reject slavery does not change that. The fact that some Christians practice polygamy or preach tithing does not mean the Gospel does.

Christianity because of the love, no harm directives, progressively eliminated slavery, "child marriage", cousin marriage, concubinage, polygamy, child labour, witch-hunts, wife-burnings, twin killings and a host of other societal pathologies. Not only that, it introduced real welfare reforms around jurisprudence, individual need, sanitation and health. It embedded charitable giving as a social norm.

No other faith, ideology or worldview has managed to deal with the pathologies, let alone introduce the welfare and charitable imperatives.,
To say Christianity endorses slavery is quite simply ignorant and\or malicious.

Per my last post, I cant speak for others. The Christian message is unchanged. The practices of people who claim to be Christians is another matter and down to them, as your motivation in interpreting is down to you.


TV

budaatum:
In my own opinion, you are guilty of doing with regard to Islam what you accuse Deepsight of doing with Christianity, "selecting decontextualised readings for their own selfish and wicked purposes".

benalvino3:
You are missing the point. The land they went to and inaugurated a king in already has a king. Igbo culture is foreign; they are trying to coexist with another culture in SA, which is why the locals want every foreigner to leave. That's the cultural conflict you are seeing. No one is saying they are trying to change South African culture. To assimilate means to recognize the culture you are in and embrace it.



My problem is not Islam, like I said, I was angry at south Africans because I dislike them then I found out what happened. Islam is unique because their religion does not allow them to assimilate, they might be quiet till they have the numbers.

Islam in various contexts often center on doctrinal incompatibility with secular/liberal norms.

Yoruba people no want bayelsa man to rule, Igbos they fight, hausa dey do their own. The country is corrupt it does not mean the multicultural frame work of this country is not a problem.

Polarization and division everywhere.


With the Saudi job or Qatar, can you go and evangelise as a Christian?

nateevs:
Please don't provide false narratives after the fact. The fact is stu3p1d Trump never reads and yawns through security and intelligence briefings. When I said it here multiple times, e.e.ed10t5 like you thought it was conspiracy.

If he read or paid attention, how did he miss that an attack on Iran will lead to asymmetric war by way of attacks on the GCC countries, followed up by closure of the Strait of Hormuz? The effect of that was immediate spike in oil prices due to a stranglehold on supply. Even I mentioned this many times.

Now you are telling us he made a move to counter events he was already told will happen upon a strike.

Why do you think previous Presidents chose diplomacy?

ono:
Ok Ijebos.

Tell us all right here and now - no spinning words and stuff. Straight up yes or no answer to the question below:

Are you gay?

I am ready to apologise to the whole Nairaland community if your answer is no. Thank you.

bayelsaowei:
So as you don grow reach, you Dey believe Netanyahu. 🤣🤣😂

Story…

ijebosb:
Ok Ono
Prove to us right here and now that you are not gay.

Are you gay?
No spinning words, prove it.

Kinda sus that you still haven't answered the question.
Especially given that you said you were a virgin till you were almost 30.

ono:
Na you I go believe ? Epie man? Taaa!

bayelsaowei:
Yes believe me.

Netanyahu is a corrupt, bribing, murderous maniac. He lies and kills. 😎😎

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/netanyahu-officially-asks-israeli-president-pardon-2025-11-30/

ono:
So, na you clean pass now abi?