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Truthseeker10:
FxMasterz


1)Lol....So Jesus whom you claimed is the father does not have spirit?

Are you deliberately ignorant?

Jesus is Spirit. We're not talking about the physical Jesus but the resurrected Jesus.

2)Oga this is the opposite of the question that I asked you. You seem confused. You were the one that brought the word "essence" into this discussion.

Abd I never said the word 'essence' appeared directly in the verse? Did I?

[quot,]What is the Greek word for "essence" and where is "essence" used in the bible?[/quote]I don't know if English is a challenge to you. Will you point out where I said the word 'essence' was used in the verse? I pointed out the inference of the verse based on the word 'one'. I never said essence was used. Prove me wrong.

3)Where did Jesus specify throne and crowns in Jerusalem in the verse below?
Did Jesus not specify that the throne they will sit will be on his own throne just as he is sitting on his own father's throne?

Don't you read your Bible? Or you do not understand simple Grammar?

Jesus sat in the Father's throne. He didn't promise anyone that they'll sit in the Father's throne. He only promised that we'll sit on His own throne, not the Father's.

2 Timothy 2:12.
"If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: "

Mathew 19:28.
"And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel."

To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

Can you show me where in the above, Jesus promised anyone that He'll make them sit in the Father's throne?

MaxInDHouse:
Can you quote where Jesus said this in the Bible?

Proverbs 23:23
"Buy the truth, and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding"

John 17:17
"Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth"

Hey man! You must be born again!

MaxInDHouse:
Do you know of a crime that Jehovah's Witnesses are known for throughout the world?🙂

Can you please mention one!🙂

There are many. Not one. I will mention them with verifiable references:

1. Child sexual abuse: https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-studies/case-study-29-jehovahs-witnesses

For others, see screenshots.

FxMasterz:
You must be born again!

You keep mimicking your pastors.🙂

FxMasterz:
There are many. Not one. I will mention them with verifiable references:
1. Child sexual abuse: https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-studies/case-study-29-jehovahs-witnesses
For others, see screenshots.

Good!
Can you now present a religious group with no record of criminal charges?🙂

MaxInDHouse:
Good!
Can you now present a religious group with no record of criminal charges?🙂

Hahahahaha.

The Max in the mud!

So, where's your boasting?

MaxInDHouse:
You keep mimicking your pastors.🙂

What's wrong with that?

Even Paul says "Be ye followers of me."

And are we not so enjoined to follow the faith of those whose conversations in the works have been without hypocrisy.

Hey, Max, lest I forget, you must be born again!

And you see, I actually don't follow men. I follow Jesus who is the Bishop and Shepherd of my soul. He is the one who is saying to you again today, "You must be born again."

FxMasterz:
Hahahahaha.
The Max in the mud!
So, where's your boasting?

Ọmọ ask the Jews to tell you criminal acts committed by Jesus and his disciples in the first century then you'll be shocked to hear lot's of stories from different sources but then ask any Jew to present any Jewish religious group without a single record of crime then they will become provoked.

Ọmọ present any church with no record of criminal charges or you don't believe in the church of Christ again?😀

Can you quote where Jesus or Paul said the highlighted?😀

FxMasterz:
Hey, Max, lest I forget, you must be born again!

MaxInDHouse:
Can you quote where Jesus or Paul said the highlighted?😀

Are you now born again?

Who is your Lord and Savior?

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ ask the Jews to tell you criminal acts committed by Jesus and his disciples in the first century then you'll be shocked to hear lot's of stories from different sources but then ask any Jew to present any Jewish religious group without a single record of crime then they will become provoked.

Ọmọ present any church with no record of criminal charges or you don't believe in the church of Christ again?😀

Max, leave story aside.

The Jews of Jesus' day had no criminal accusation against Him. Even Jesus asked them, "Which of you convinceth me of sin?", none could answer.

You were the one boasting that your religion is something. Where's your boasting, dear?

Your religion has the most disturbing records of criminality within Christianity.

FxMasterz:
Are you now born again?
Who is your Lord and Savior?

Can you quote where any Christian ask these questions in the Bible?

Are you sure they had no criminal charges against Jesus yet 99% of Jews never believe him?😀

FxMasterz:
Max, leave story aside.
The Jews of Jesus' day had no criminal accusation against Him. Even Jesus asked them, "Which of you convinceth me of sin?", none could answer.
You were the one boasting that your religion is something. Where's your boasting, dear?
Your religion has the most disturbing records of criminality within Christianity.

MaxInDHouse:
Are you sure they had no criminal charges against Jesus yet 99% of Jews never believe him?😀

Can you mention any criminal charges against Him other than the charges that He claimed Himself God and a King.

Even Pontius Pilates said "I find no fault in this man."

FxMasterz:
Can you mention any criminal charges against Him other than the charges that He claimed Himself God and a King. Even Pontius Pilates said "I find no fault in this man."

Then why did Pontius Pilate sentence Jesus to death o?😟

MaxInDHouse:
Can you quote where any Christian ask these questions in the Bible?

Are these questions asked by satanists?

Again, Are you now born again?
Who is your Lord and Savior?

MaxInDHouse:
Then why did Pontius Pilate sentence Jesus to death o?😟

Because they cried "Crucify Him for making Himself a rival of Caesar."

Do you now want to mail a crime on Him because your organization is caught in a web of crimes?

FxMasterz:
Are these questions asked by satanists?

So no Christian asked such question in the Bible shey?
It means such question is worthless if no Christian asked such!🙂

FxMasterz:
Because they cried "Crucify Him for making Himself a rival of Caesar."
Do you now want to mail a crime on Him because your organization is caught in a web of crimes?

So how come Pontius Pilate sentence him to death when the accusations are false nah?😟

If you want to be sincere stop deceiving yourself with how humans judge issues instead be open minded and broaden your thoughts.

Jehovah's Witnesses are in all the countries of the earth so if few countries are raising allegations against this group try to figure out if the same allegation occurred in all the countries where Jehovah's Witnesses are found then you can justifiably say that is what they are doing for real.

The Jews accused Jesus of being an impostor and they kept accusing his disciples everywhere they found them but is that the same way people from other nations view Jesus and his disciples?

Of course the answer is NO.

FxMasterz:
Are you deliberately ignorant?

Jesus is Spirit. We're not talking about the physical Jesus but the resurrected Jesus.

So the physical Jesus whom was the father had no spirit?

Abd I never said the word 'essence' appeared directly in the verse? Did I?

What is the Greek word for "essence" and where is "essence" used in the bible?
I don't know if English is a challenge to you. Will you point out where I said the word 'essence' was used in the verse? I pointed out the inference of the verse based on the word 'one'. I never said essence was used. Prove me wrong.

So where did you get your idea of inference from if you are not twisting the bible? When Jesus said I and the father are one, what Greek word did he use for "one"?

Jesus sat in the Father's throne. He didn't promise anyone that they'll sit in the Father's throne. He only promised that we'll sit on His own throne, not the Father's.

2 Timothy 2:12.
"If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: "

Mathew 19:28.
"And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel."


To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

Can you show me where in the above, Jesus promised anyone that He'll make them sit in the Father's throne?

But did you not claim here that Jesus and the Father are seating on the same throne? So on whose throne did Revelation 3:21 say those who overcome will seat?

Truthseeker10:
So the physical Jesus whom was the father had no spirit?

A spirit is a spirit. A spirit that became a physical being temporarily continues to be a spirit still. I don't know why guys are fixated on the physical Jesus when it's clear that Jesus existed before His physical appearance.

So where did you get your idea of inference from if you are not twisting the bible? When Jesus said I and the father are one, what Greek word did he use for "one"?[/b]
Go and study why the Greek word 'hen' was used for the word 'one' and come back here.

[quote]But did you not claim here that Jesus and the Father are seating on the same throne? So on whose throne did Revelation 3:21 say those who overcome will seat?

On Jesus' throne. How many times do I have to tell you that?

Or, if you live with your Father is his house, those that mean you cannot have your own house?

MaxInDHouse:
So how come Pontius Pilate sentence him to death when the accusations are false nah?😟

If you want to be sincere stop deceiving yourself with how humans judge issues instead be open minded and broaden your thoughts.

Jehovah's Witnesses are in all the countries of the earth so if few countries are raising allegations against this group try to figure out if the same allegation occurred in all the countries where Jehovah's Witnesses are found then you can justifiably say that is what they are doing for real.

The Jews accused Jesus of being an impostor and they kept accusing his disciples everywhere they found them but is that the same way people from other nations view Jesus and his disciples?

Of course the answer is NO.

Pontius Pilates clearly washed his hands of the judgement saying 'I have not hand in the death of this innocent man's He was clearly under pressure to give a misguided sentence. Jesus had no sin!

JWs are commiting crimes in several countries. The documents I previously attached mentioned many crimes totalling more than 500 cases. How many countries are in this world sef that you alone have more than 1,000 cases?

It is the same JW that embezzled the funds the Norwegian government gave the organization as a charity for their Congregation. The 8 governing thieves pocketed the money. Congregation didn't see shishi. 😂 😂

FxMasterz:
Pontius Pilates clearly washed his hands of the judgement saying 'I have not hand in the death of this innocent man's He was clearly under pressure to give a misguided sentence. Jesus had no sin!

Back then do you think everyone knew Pontius Pilate washed his hands saying Jesus was innocent?🙂

MaxInDHouse:
Back then do you think everyone knew Pontius Pilate washed his hands saying Jesus was innocent?🙂

He did it openly!

And who cares if everyone knows or not. What matters is everyone knew He had no sin. Even the thieves on the cross made the same confession.

FxMasterz:
Everyone knew He had no sin.

So how come 99% of Jews till today don't believe in this man who had no sin?🙂

MaxInDHouse:
So how come 99% of Jews till today don't believe in this man who had no sin?🙂

Do you need to be a righteous man for anyone to believe in you? I don't understand how you reason!

FxMasterz:
Do you need to be a righteous man for anyone to believe in you? I don't understand how you reason!

Let me help you with what majority of the Jews heard about Jesus of Nazareth back then!

[1] Mary his mother got pregnant by another man and Joseph gullibly took her as wife because he had spent lots of money on her during their courtship.

[2] John the baptist who claimed Jesus is the Christ was a demonic man who happens to be Jesus' cousin.

[3] Jesus was gay that's why nobody suspected him since he's doing bone to bone.

[4] He was secretly sleeping with Mary Magdalene and she actually had a child for him.

[5] He learned magic from demons to make people follow him.

[6] He was arrested, charged, convicted, sentenced and executed lawfully.

[7] His followers came to steal his body at night and later started claiming he has risen from the dead.

All these allegations were documented in the Bible as his disciples kept writing all the evil things their religious leaders were spreading against Jesus that is why they organized thugs to continue attacking Jesus' disciples everywhere they could be found but when the Roman authorities wanted to see to the matter Jewish religious leaders use Paul who is an international lawyer to continue the prosecution after all he can defend whatever the thugs do to Jesus' disciples as he knew the laws of both Rome and Jews.

But when Jesus snatched Paul away from them they decided to kill Paul too.

So do you think anyone hearing these things will think twice before condemning Jesus and his disciples?🙂

MaxInDHouse:
Let me help you with what majority of the Jews heard about Jesus of Nazareth back then!

[1] Mary his mother got pregnant by another man and Joseph gullibly took her as wife because he had spent lots of money on her during their courtship.

[2] John the baptist who claimed Jesus is the Christ was a demonic man who happens to be Jesus' cousin.

[3] Jesus was gay that's why nobody suspected him since he's doing bone to bone.

[4] He was secretly sleeping with Mary Magdalene and she actually had a child for him.

[5] He learned magic from demons to make people follow him.

[6] He was arrested, charged, convicted, sentenced and executed lawfully.

[7] His followers came to steal his body at night and later started claiming he has risen from the dead.

All these allegations were documented in the Bible as his disciples kept writing all the evil things their religious leaders were spreading against Jesus that is why they organized thugs to continue attacking Jesus' disciples everywhere they could be found but when the Roman authorities wanted to see to the matter Jewish religious leaders use Paul who is an international lawyer to continue the prosecution after all he can defend whatever the thugs do to Jesus' disciples as he knew the laws of both Rome and Jews.

But when Jesus snatched Paul away from them they decided to kill Paul too.

So do you think anyone hearing these things will think twice before condemning Jesus and his disciples?🙂

all these are not crimes, and no Jew in Jesus' day held such views of Jim. Stop lying! If His disciples stole His body after His death, is that also a crime He was accused of leading to His sentencing? Kikikikiki.

These are LIES that Jews were fed back in the first century which makes them hate Jesus and his disciples with passion.
So if you keep on following news that's circulating instead of studying those who had been accused of the crime you are just like the Jews.
For your information a Jew will spit on you simply because you bear that group name "Christian" due to these lies.
Now back to what you are parading here on Nairaland.
How many JWs have you found in your neighborhood committing any of those crimes mentioned on social media?🙂

FxMasterz:
all these are not crimes, and no Jew in Jesus' day held such views of Jim. Stop lying! If His disciples stole His body after His death, is that also a crime He was accused of leading to His sentencing? Kikikikiki.

MaxInDHouse:
These are LIES that Jews were fed back in the first century which makes them hate Jesus and his disciples with passion.
So if you keep on following news that's circulating instead of studying those who had been accused of the crime you are just like the Jews.
For your information a Jew will spit on you simply because you bear that group name "Christian" due to these lies.
Now back to what you are parading here on Nairaland.
How many JWs have you found in your neighborhood committing any of those crimes mentioned on social media?🙂

Kikikikiki.

Looking for a way to defend the criminal organization.

Nobody accused Jesus of any crime. Defamation and disinformation after His departure is a different thing, and none of them say He committed any crime of any sort.

Abeg, tell your governing thieves to refund the Norwegian government all the money they diverted without doing the charity for which the funds were provided.

Norway has even deregistered the crimson organization. 😂 😂

You guys don't know more than twisting the Bible to defend your false doctrines. See how you're attempting to defame Jesus in order to make your organization look good.

At least you've seen how many accusations were leveled against Jesus and his disciples among the Jews and up till today that's what they are still talking about.
Here is a video showing how Israelites decided to ban Christianity:
https://youtube.com/shorts/0AUh9bkCNhU?si=H2iT9KKefQqxs9WJ
How many criminal cases have you seen in your own neighborhood regarding what you called "CRIMINAL ORGANIZATION" ?🙂

FxMasterz:
Kikikikiki.

Looking for a way to defend the criminal organization.

Nobody accused Jesus of any crime. Defamation and disinformation after His departure is a different thing, and none of them say He committed any crime of any sort.

Abeg, tell your governing thieves to refund the Norwegian government all the money they diverted without doing the charity for which the funds were provided.

Norway has even deregistered the crimson organization. 😂 😂

You guys don't know more than twisting the Bible to defend your false doctrines. See how you're attempting to defame Jesus in order to make your organization look good.

MaxInDHouse:
At least you've seen how many accusations were leveled against Jesus and his disciples among the Jews and up till today that's what they are still talking about.
Here is a video showing how Israelites decided to ban Christianity:
https://youtube.com/shorts/0AUh9bkCNhU?si=H2iT9KKefQqxs9WJ
How many criminal cases have you seen in your own neighborhood regarding what you called "CRIMINAL ORGANIZATION" ?🙂

There are no criminal accusation against Jesus. Even Pilates abd thieves crucified with Him testified that The was a righteous man.