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budaatum:
Ifon Osun and Orolu are neighbouring villages of the same descent and culture, and they are killing each other. And even siblings born of the same parent have been known to kill each other too.

Is it your argument that people should be the same sex and tribe and race etc, and identity, there will be no conflict?

In fact, do you want everyone to identify as bemeruca, or do you just not know what identity is?

Not the same village abi?
So it's different identities which is why they are fighting against one another.

There is probably a king in both villages.

That's not my argument. I am telling you people always identify themselves with sex, race, language etc. It's human nature and as a result we fight.

DeepSight:
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Really?

Good grief.

You can search up the discussion or ask him, he may just admit it.

bemeruca:
Not the same village abi?
So it's different identities which is why they are fighting against one another.

There is probably a king in both villages.

That's not my argument. I am telling you people always identify themselves with sex, race, language etc. It's human nature and as a result we fight.

So, you want everyone to be in the same village and under one king, and then there will be no fighting?

Do you want the entire world to be one country ruled by one king too like China?

I do wonder how you'd explain USA that has one ruler and yet we are here fighting.

Glad you recognise however, that "people always identify themselves with sex, race, language etc". Add different location, and education too, and you might understand that identity is not so much a self thing but is imposed on one. I wouldn't identify as Nigerian if my parents were Ghanaian. And I wouldn't identify as British if I were born in Kumasi.

I like the way the Quran explains what your diversity should compel you to do. Jesus Christ taught the same thing with this parable, though the different identities elude most.

tctrills:
Your point is that because there are no plantations left, the right is deleting history?
This is just finding issues where there are none.
Slavery is taught sufficiently in schools in the US. Just because there are no plantations left, would we now pretend that the history of slavery is being erased.

I truly don't understand what you are complaining about here.

You are fighting for plantations to be brought back because you feel the history of slavery is being forgotten?

Anyway, let's come back home to where the history of slavery is being forgotten.

My great great grand father like many others in his time had slaves, with the exception of Badagry we don't see any monuments. Every town and city in ancient Nigeria practiced slavery, how many monuments are there? I don't see any in Mbise, Egba, Kano, or kogi.

I was never taught about black on black slavery in school. So who is erasing history?

Moral of the story, charity begins at home.

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That was not me. That was what I have been asking you to read. It was written by GloriousGbola.

I hope you learnt a thing or two.

The history of slavery is deep in the USA and it still lives in many forms, it became Jim Crowe, It became segregation, it became many things and today it lives as institutional racism which you have denied exists. You know nothing.

The present administration in the US is trying hard to erase the history and pretend the reality does not exist.

tctrills:
Your point is that because there are no plantations left, the right is deleting history?
This is just finding issues where there are none.
Slavery is taught sufficiently in schools in the US. Just because there are no plantations left, would we now pretend that the history of slavery is being erased.

I truly don't understand what you are complaining about here.

You are fighting for plantations to be brought back because you feel the history of slavery is being forgotten?

Anyway, let's come back home to where the history of slavery is being forgotten.

My great great grand father like many others in his time had slaves, with the exception of Badagry we don't see any monuments. Every town and city in ancient Nigeria practiced slavery, how many monuments are there? I don't see any in Mbise, Egba, Kano, or kogi.

I was never taught about black on black slavery in school. So who is erasing history?

Moral of the story, charity begins at home.

Do you live in a black hole?
It is not even a debatable thing that this Trump administration is trying to erase they history pertaining to slavery.

IjeBos:
Do you live in a black hole?
It is not even a debatable thing that this Trump administration is trying to erase they history pertaining to slavery.

Unread bye

IjeBos:
Do you live in a black hole?
It is not even a debatable thing that this Trump administration is trying to erase they history pertaining to slavery.

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I tire oh.
Or under a rock.

IjeBos:
Benalvino3 has said similar things himself.
For one, he believes the world was better off in the 60's.
Also believes slavery was a good thing for black Americans.
And I think Raumdeuter has walked up to that line(may have said similar but can't be 100% sure so don't want to put that on him).

It's that still colonized mind and self-hate.

IjeBos:
You can search up the discussion or ask him, he may just admit it.

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Benalvino3 can you confirm that you have said these things.

ono:
budaatum, just reading through your response to Deep's questions, I know deep down within me that you need the services of an exorcist - one who has the full power of the Holy Spirit in him or her.

You need deliverance. You are in a spiritual bondage of sorts - I have no idea what it is that you are under. The Lord knows and see you. You have nothing to fear. But you have to come down from that your high horse of arrogance and pride. You have to let them go and submit. It's the hardest part. You must submit to the Lord.

Jokes aside, I admire you. I feel the Lord has great need for you. You will find him when you seek him with all your heart.

Jeremiah 29:13 (KJV)
And ye shall seek me, and find me , when ye shall search for me with all your heart.

Psalm 145:18 (KJV)
The LORD is nigh unto all them that call upon him, To all that call upon him in truth.

It is well with your soul.

Aren't you tired?
Why don't you find another thread to proselytize.
There's plenty in this forum.

budaatum:
So, you want everyone to be in the same village and under one king, and then there will be no fighting?

Do you want the entire world to be one country ruled by one king too like China?

I do wonder how you'd explain USA that has one ruler and yet we are here fighting.

Glad you recognise however, that "people always identify themselves with sex, race, language etc". Add different location, and education too, and you might understand that identity is not so much a self thing but is imposed on one. I wouldn't identify as Nigerian if my parents were Ghanaian. And I wouldn't identify as British if I were born in Kumasi.

I like the way the Quran explains what your diversity should compel you to do. Jesus Christ taught the same thing with this parable, though the different identities elude most.

I am telling why you see so much conflicts in Nigeria today. Why is that hard to understand?

bemeruca:
I am telling why you see so much conflicts in Nigeria today. Why is that hard to understand?

You are not "telling", ben. You are merely staring your opinion why you think you "see so much conflicts in Nigeria today". And I am not agreeing with you since your opinion is not valid.

Why is that hard for you to understand?

DeepSight:
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That was not me. That was what I have been asking you to read. It was written by GloriousGbola.

I hope you learnt a thing or two.

The history of slavery is deep in the USA and it still lives in many forms, it became Jim Crowe, It became segregation, it became many things and today it lives as institutional racism which you have denied exists. You know nothing.

The present administration in the US is trying hard to erase the history and pretend the reality does not exist.

Your last paragraph is just dishonest and wicked.
I advise you to be intellectually honest or at least spend a minute or two to study before speaking.

First, point to your evidence that the present administration is doing anything to erase the history of slavery. You just made a very big claim, if you are a responsible person, you will now back it up with real evidence.

Again, the entire premise of your argument is false and I reject it for the following reasons.

1. The US has done more than any other nation to tell it's slavery history.
More books have been written, more movies made and more information is out there about the US slavery than any other country that had legalized slavery in the nineteenth century.

2. Brazil had far more slaves than the US, please how much do you know about slavery in Brazil?

3. You know so much about the plantations in the south, you can tell everything about the life of a slave Mississippi but what do you know about the life of a slave in the Benin, to or Kano empires?

4. Not only did the Arabs/ eastern world have more black slaves than the West, the west kept a better history of it's slaves than the Arabs.

5. It seems that the only people not hiding their history of slavery is the United States.

One last thing, you spoke about institutional racism. Please can you mention 2 institutions in US to 2026 that promote racism towards the blacks.

Let's learn to be intellectually honest my brother.

budaatum:
You are not "telling", ben. You are merely staring your opinion why you think you "see so much conflicts in Nigeria today". And I am not agreeing with you since your opinion is not valid.

Why is that hard for you to understand?

If you dont see it is your problem, the people that were gunned down yesterday died because they are not fulanis.

Facts don't care about your opinions. Your village people fighting is a proof of what I am saying.

tctrills:
Your last paragraph is just dishonest and wicked.
I advise you to be intellectually honest or at least spend a minute or two to study before speaking.

First, point to your evidence that the present administration is doing anything to erase the history of slavery. You just made a very big claim, if you are a responsible person, you will now back it up with real evidence.

Again, the entire premise of your argument is false and I reject it for the following reasons.

1. The US has done more than any other nation to tell it's slavery history.
More books have been written, more movies made and more information is out there about the US slavery than any other country that had legalized slavery in the nineteenth century.

2. Brazil had far more slaves than the US, please how much do you know about slavery in Brazil?

3. You know so much about the plantations in the south, you can tell everything about the life of a slave Mississippi but what do you know about the life of a slave in the Benin, to or Kano empires?

4. Not only did the Arabs/ eastern world have more black slaves than the West, the west kept a better history of it's slaves than the Arabs.

5. It seems that the only people not hiding their history of slavery is the United States.

One last thing, you spoke about institutional racism. Please can you mention 2 institutions in US to 2026 that promote racism towards the blacks.

Let's learn to be intellectually honest my brother.

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You must be living under a rock. You obviously have not been following the news since Trump resumed. No point.

bemeruca:
If you dont see it is your problem, the people that were gunned down yesterday died because they are not fulanis.

Facts don't care about your opinions. Your village people fighting is a proof of what I am saying.

My village people fighting our neighbours actually disproves what you are saying, but that's to be expected since you do not know how close to each other and integrated each village is.

Siblings who grow up in one home with the same culture killing each other easily disproves what you insist on believing. And you can't make people who live in the same house identify as same, much less neighbours, or those on the same street or even in the same town, so I'd like to see how you would eliminate diversity.

Besides, it's been tried and has failed. Below is but one example.
https://www.londonmuseum.org.uk/collections/london-stories/gordon-riots-revolution-in-the-making/

budaatum:
My village people fighting our neighbours actually disproves what you are saying, but that's to be expected since you do not know how close to each other and integrated each village is.

Siblings who grow up in one home with the same culture killing each other easily disproves what you insist on believing. And you can't make people who live in the same house identify as same, much less neighbours, or those on the same street or even in the same town, so I'd like to see how you would eliminate diversity.

Besides, it's been tried and has failed. Below is but one example.
https://www.londonmuseum.org.uk/collections/london-stories/gordon-riots-revolution-in-the-making/

Your village people are neighbours indicates two identities. They are fighting because they are not one 😂

This is not hard.

Your siblings analogy no make sense.

bemeruca:
Your village people are neighbours indicates two identities. They are fighting because they are not one 😂

This is not hard.

Your siblings analogy no make sense.

They are so close to one another is the point. And they are not one because they are being stupïd. And the fact that siblings of the same parents may fight and kill each other disproves your point, since two people can not identify closer than siblings.

You and I fighting is not because we are multicultural or multireasoning, but because one wants to dominate the other. Or would you claim you and I can not have our separate multireasonings and not fight? Must you agree with me ben, for there to be peace? And pray tell how I am supposed to make you agree with me please.

budaatum:
They are so close to one another is the point. And they are not one because they are being stupïd. And the fact that siblings of the same parents may fight and kill each other disproves your point, since two people can not identify closer than siblings.

You and I fighting is not because we are multicultural or multireasoning, but because one wants to dominate the other. Or would you claim you and I can not have our separate multireasonings and not fight? Must you agree with me ben, for there to be peace? And pray tell how I am supposed to make you agree with me please.

The fact that the zulus and Igbos are not one in SA means they are being stewpeed. The kind of arguments you make sometimes. We humans have issues, that's my point.

One culture wants to dominate another in a multicultural environment.

If you dont have anything to say how about you keep quiet?

DeepSight:
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You must be living under a rock. You obviously have not been following the news since Trump resumed. No point.

Oga stop deceiving. We both know that you have nothing to say here. If you did, you would have said it. I know you well enough.

I understand you hate Trump but please don't slander someone just because of your hate.

If you had a point, we would discuss it but clearly you don't.

DeepSight:
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You must be living under a rock. You obviously have not been following the news since Trump resumed. No point.

As usual, empty barrel. Soon you will say House N, 😂😂😂

So Germany wants Syrians to go back to their country, 80% of them. When they gather like this flying the flags of another country, you know you have issues. They will never assimilate.

Germany wants 80% of the Syrians in the country to return to Syria within the next three years, but Syrians say they won’t leave and that no one can force them. This will not end well. pic.twitter.com/qYBBD5U73q

— Dr. Maalouf ‏ (@realMaalouf) March 30, 2026

bemeruca:
The fact that the zulus and Igbos are not one in SA means they are being stewpeed. The kind of arguments you make sometimes. We humans have issues, that's my point.

There is no way I can convince you that it is your own misunderstanding that is the "kind of", and that is to be expected since you do not wish to be dominated by me.

It is not that "zulus and Igbos are not one in SA" that makes them stewpid. The fact they can not peacefully coexist (if they can not, that it), is what makes them stewpid.

If they were not stewpid they'd learn to coexist even if they disagree. It's what democracy was created to enable, note.

bemeruca:
One culture wants to dominate another in a multicultural environment.

This need to dominate another is what makes them stewpid. And thankfully, they will learn to coexist or annihilate each other.

Think Europe. They used to fight wars of dominance, but have now wisely evolved into a peaceful union.

bemeruca:
If you dont have anything to say how about you keep quiet?

Ben, why are you trying to dominate me to keep quiet? I obviously have a lot to say and I am saying it.

Better is you dominating yourself and not engage me instead of trying to dominate me, which you can never ever do.

budaatum:
There is no way I can convince you that it is your own misunderstanding that is the "kind of", and that is to be expected since you do not wish to be dominated by me.

It is not that "zulus and Igbos are not one in SA" that makes them stewpid. The fact they can not peacefully coexist (if they can not, that it), is what makes them stewpid.

If they were not stewpid they'd learn to coexist even if they disagree. It's what democracy was created to enable, note.


This need to dominate another is what makes them stewpid. And thankfully, they will learn to coexist or annihilate each other.

Think Europe. They used to fight wars of dominance, but have now wisely evolved into a peaceful union.


Ben, why are you trying to dominate me to keep quiet? I obviously have a lot to say and I am saying it.

Better is you dominating yourself and not engage me instead of trying to dominate me, which you can never ever do.

There were 4 people on earth when the first murder happened. That they cannot peacefully coexist is why they are stewpeed.

It's like you telling me the sky is blue 😂 of course it's blue. I am not arguing about whether they are stewpeed or not; I am saying once we have something to distinguish our identity, conflict is likely to occur, which is why I wish we didn't have so many ethnicities in this country. It is human nature, it's not whether we are stewpeed or not.


You are agreeing with what I am saying but still pretending I am saying something wrong.

You conveniently ignore full context of someone's statement, quote only a part then conclude.Then as a typical liberal you want us to gree with you without questions.

What if I say this.

(Most of the mess that Trump is trying to clean up was caused by Obama.

Next I hate the whites ,those liberals who put him in office.)

If you ignore my first sentence and quote "I hate the whites" only , the meaning becomes totally different.
Hatred shouldn't make you look for words in a sentence while ignoring full context

DeepSight:
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You know, for me, the amazing thing is that he also defends a chap who says that that very Civil Rights Movement was a mistake.

So do Benalvino3 and raumdeuter. They all defend the man who said that the very movement that allowed blacks to have equal rights in the US was a mistake.

How can anyone ever think of these fellas as having any iota of self respect.

So they are causing problems and crimes

https://twitter.com/real_eire/status/2038682218780868911

You cannot say the same thing about Ukrainian refugees

tctrills:
You don't know me, I guess we have never spoken but somehow, I am racist. I am sure you don't even know the meaning of racism.
Anyway take care of yourself. Deepsight can you see your WhatsApp group?

But why did you respond to me 😂😂😂
I am sure this is not for me

bemeruca:
But why did you respond to me 😂😂😂
I am sure this is not for me

Definitely not for you

bemeruca:
So they are causing problems and crimes

https://twitter.com/real_eire/status/2038682218780868911

You cannot say the same thing about Ukrainian refugees

We all know why they are causing problems but saying it is racist.

I swear I love liberals and democrats 🤣🤣🤣

They are too DMB. Just look at IjeBos

The GAYS of Hormuz 🤣🤣😂😂🤣😂

Finally someone is addressing this…

pic.twitter.com/dsrXQPmc19

— Dave Rubin (@RubinReport) March 30, 2026

bemeruca:
There were 4 people on earth when the first murder happened. That they cannot peacefully coexist is why they are stewpeed.

There was never 4 people on earth ben. But yes, stewpidity is the reason humans do not learn to coexist.

bemeruca:
It is human nature, it's not whether we are stewpeed or not.

Actually, it is learned behaviour. And you can easily go to school to learn not to be stewpid too.

We teach it in schools here in UK, though some, like Tommy, still refuse to learn.

bemeruca:
You are agreeing with what I am saying but still pretending I am saying something wrong.

No Ben, I am not agreeing with what you are saying, and what you are advocating for in your saying is stewpid and impossible to implement since you can not limit the movement of people with different ethnicities.

The below is to stimulate you to research the early mixing of humans and their multiculture, and to dispute your 4 people in the world!

bemeruca:
Oga, we know their pretence. Dogs are welcome

When that prophet was starting out he would raid communities in the early mornings .Initially his only known means of income was raiding settlements or trading caravans for booty and slaves. Later he added Zakat ....

Man's most loyal pets , the dogs would obviously start barking on detecting strangers to his chagrin.
That's why dogs are Haram ((forbidden) in Islam.

budaatum:
There was never 4 people on earth ben. But yes, stewpidity is the reason humans do not learn to coexist.


Actually, it is learned behaviour. And you can easily go to school to learn not to be stewpid too.

We teach it in schools here in UK, though some, like Tommy, still refuse to learn.


No Ben, I am not agreeing with what you are saying, and what you are advocating for in your saying is stewpid and impossible to implement since you can not limit the movement of people with different ethnicities.

The below is to stimulate you to research the early mixing of humans and their multiculture, and to dispute your 4 people in the world!

I am not advocating for anything. I said I wish we did not have all these ethnicities, that's all. That there are so much conflicts because we don't see each other as one.

You already agree with this. So you can argue with yourself