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Re: As A Yoruba Man How I See Igbo People - Lekan by Starboytwo(m): 12:19pm On Mar 31
Stupid post...

dumb post.

ignorant post...
Re: As A Yoruba Man How I See Igbo People - Lekan by ChukwuObe: 1:17pm On Mar 31
franchasng:
It is wonderful Yoruba people like this and my Pastor plus many others like Farotimi, etc that have been saving the Yorubas from nature's payback.

These great and sincere Yorubas like this writer are an asset to the Yoruba race and it is because of them that nature have been postponing payback.


May God bless you and bless the womb that conceived you.
To you, those ones you mentioned are sincere Yoruba. The same way we see the likes of Joe Igbokwe, Umahi and others as very sincere Igbo men
Re: As A Yoruba Man How I See Igbo People - Lekan by TokunboCarsOnly: 1:25pm On Mar 31
ariesbull:
I always write about Igbo as a tribe, and I won’t stop writing about them because I have noticed something about them.

Igbo are actually very good people, but many of us have not noticed it. I think our tribalism has created bitterness between them and other tribes. What do I mean? As one country, we have not allowed equality and balance in our politics. Since our democracy started, the Yoruba have ruled, and the Hausa/Fulani have also ruled, but we have refused to give the Igbo the opportunity to rule. We keep denying them that chance.

In 1999, many Igbo people left their own leaders and voted for Obasanjo, and they also supported Yar’Adua. In fact, during Jonathan’s time, I began to understand the Igbo better. They insisted on supporting Jonathan. I thought it was because Jonathan was from the South-South, though not from the South-East, but maybe they understood Buhari better than most of us did. In the end, Buhari turned out to be a disaster.

In 2023, Igbo people refused to vote for Tinubu, and many Yorubas counted it as tribalism, but that is not completely true. In fact, I have seen some Igbo people say they were ready to vote for people like Akinwumi Adesina or Yemi Osinbajo, but Tinubu was a capital NO for them. Personally, I also did not like Tinubu as president, but this is not about me. Meanwhile, Tinubu has also failed woefully.

I think the problem with many Yoruba people is that we are not sincere when discussing tribalism. In fact, tribalism is very strong between the Hausa and the Yoruba. If someone had told me before that Yorubas are this tribalistic, I would not have believed it until Asiwaju became president. Now many people support him whether he performs well or not, simply because he is their tribesman. That is not good.

When we are talking about sincerity in good governance, regardless of tribe, we should give some credit to the Igbo. Yes, some people say Igbo are arrogant or proud and sometimes lack respect, and even they themselves admit that. But when it comes to good governance, they can be very sincere. Look at the case of Ike Ekweremadu in the UK—about 90% of Igbo people supported his prosecution because they believed he failed as a politician.

I have also seen many Igbo people say they would rather vote for Osinbajo or Adesina than some Igbo politicians like Ikpeazu, Orji Uzor Kalu, or even Soludo. So my question is: is it too much for the Igbo to present their own candidate since 1999? Yet some sycophants say the Igbo are the most tribalistic. How?

Another question often asked by Tinubu supporters is: “What would anyone have done differently?” My answer to that foolish question is simple—any failed government should not be given a second term. If we can put our tribes aside and hold leaders accountable, then any government coming after will govern properly because they will understand that what people want is good governance.

But many Yoruba people believe it is better to support your brother even if he performs poorly, as long as he is Yoruba. Many Igbo people would not support such a situation.

When Tinubu brought Ambode in 2015, many Igbo people initially supported Jimi Agbaje of the PDP. But before the end of Ambode’s first term, many Igbo people fell in love with his performance and declared their support for him, even within the APC—a party some people claim Igbo hate. Yet Tinubu and the APC refused to give Ambode a second-term ticket. Whatever happened between them is not my concern, but it shows that Igbo people appreciate good governance.

They believe in Peter Obi’s capacity, and that is why they support him. They are not just following him blindly.

I think if the Igbo are given the chance to rule this country, Nigeria could become better. I am not talking about politicians like Orji Uzor Kalu, Ikpeazu, Soludo, or Ekweremadu. I am talking about Peter Obi. I believe in that man, and I never believed in Tinubu—and he has proved me right.

The Yoruba have ruled more than once and have disappointed many people. The Hausa have also ruled and failed. It may be time to pass the baton and give the Igbo a chance to see what they can do.

When it comes to good governance in Nigeria as a whole—not just at the state level—I believe the Igbo are among the most sincere.
This write is absolutely on point, but some folks will call it gaslighting just to distract genuine attention. Nigeria will realize herself one day. Let the evil against Igbos just continue.
Re: As A Yoruba Man How I See Igbo People - Lekan by TokunboCarsOnly: 1:26pm On Mar 31
ariesbull:
I always write about Igbo as a tribe, and I won’t stop writing about them because I have noticed something about them.

Igbo are actually very good people, but many of us have not noticed it. I think our tribalism has created bitterness between them and other tribes. What do I mean? As one country, we have not allowed equality and balance in our politics. Since our democracy started, the Yoruba have ruled, and the Hausa/Fulani have also ruled, but we have refused to give the Igbo the opportunity to rule. We keep denying them that chance.

In 1999, many Igbo people left their own leaders and voted for Obasanjo, and they also supported Yar’Adua. In fact, during Jonathan’s time, I began to understand the Igbo better. They insisted on supporting Jonathan. I thought it was because Jonathan was from the South-South, though not from the South-East, but maybe they understood Buhari better than most of us did. In the end, Buhari turned out to be a disaster.

In 2023, Igbo people refused to vote for Tinubu, and many Yorubas counted it as tribalism, but that is not completely true. In fact, I have seen some Igbo people say they were ready to vote for people like Akinwumi Adesina or Yemi Osinbajo, but Tinubu was a capital NO for them. Personally, I also did not like Tinubu as president, but this is not about me. Meanwhile, Tinubu has also failed woefully.

I think the problem with many Yoruba people is that we are not sincere when discussing tribalism. In fact, tribalism is very strong between the Hausa and the Yoruba. If someone had told me before that Yorubas are this tribalistic, I would not have believed it until Asiwaju became president. Now many people support him whether he performs well or not, simply because he is their tribesman. That is not good.

When we are talking about sincerity in good governance, regardless of tribe, we should give some credit to the Igbo. Yes, some people say Igbo are arrogant or proud and sometimes lack respect, and even they themselves admit that. But when it comes to good governance, they can be very sincere. Look at the case of Ike Ekweremadu in the UK—about 90% of Igbo people supported his prosecution because they believed he failed as a politician.

I have also seen many Igbo people say they would rather vote for Osinbajo or Adesina than some Igbo politicians like Ikpeazu, Orji Uzor Kalu, or even Soludo. So my question is: is it too much for the Igbo to present their own candidate since 1999? Yet some sycophants say the Igbo are the most tribalistic. How?

Another question often asked by Tinubu supporters is: “What would anyone have done differently?” My answer to that foolish question is simple—any failed government should not be given a second term. If we can put our tribes aside and hold leaders accountable, then any government coming after will govern properly because they will understand that what people want is good governance.

But many Yoruba people believe it is better to support your brother even if he performs poorly, as long as he is Yoruba. Many Igbo people would not support such a situation.

When Tinubu brought Ambode in 2015, many Igbo people initially supported Jimi Agbaje of the PDP. But before the end of Ambode’s first term, many Igbo people fell in love with his performance and declared their support for him, even within the APC—a party some people claim Igbo hate. Yet Tinubu and the APC refused to give Ambode a second-term ticket. Whatever happened between them is not my concern, but it shows that Igbo people appreciate good governance.

They believe in Peter Obi’s capacity, and that is why they support him. They are not just following him blindly.

I think if the Igbo are given the chance to rule this country, Nigeria could become better. I am not talking about politicians like Orji Uzor Kalu, Ikpeazu, Soludo, or Ekweremadu. I am talking about Peter Obi. I believe in that man, and I never believed in Tinubu—and he has proved me right.

The Yoruba have ruled more than once and have disappointed many people. The Hausa have also ruled and failed. It may be time to pass the baton and give the Igbo a chance to see what they can do.

When it comes to good governance in Nigeria as a whole—not just at the state level—I believe the Igbo are among the most sincere.
This write up is absolutely on point, but some folks will call it gaslighting just to distract genuine attention. Nigeria will realize herself one day. Let the evil against Igbos just continue.
Re: As A Yoruba Man How I See Igbo People - Lekan by kelechi50: 2:18pm On Mar 31
I have come to understand that you're a blind follower.
helinues:
Sit at home for over 2 years without FG intervention. How much more do you want to be controlling yourself.

You are getting your Biafra gradually
forget about Biafra issues and answer the question.
The Yoruba have ruled more than once and have disappointed many people. The Hausa have also ruled and failed. It may be time to pass the baton and give the Igbo a chance to see what they can do.
Re: As A Yoruba Man How I See Igbo People - Lekan by Jagabanfromcali: 2:21pm On Mar 31
Who is this one patronizing? This is very annoying
Re: As A Yoruba Man How I See Igbo People - Lekan by BATified2023: 2:56pm On Mar 31
franchasng:
So why did Yorubas mostly see it as a crime that majority of Igbos supported Peter Obi a wonderful leader that could liberate Nigeria from the shackles of bad leadership? This same Igbos have supported Presidential candidates from many tribes since 1999 and happily, back then, people mocked Igbos that the only reason Igbos cannot produce Nigeria's President is because they are not united, but now that they are united in support of a credible leader, they have turned around to tag it being tribalistic, is it not laughable?



Igbos supported Obasanjo a Yoruba.

Igbos supported Yaradua a Fulani.

Igbos supported Goodluck Jonathan an Ijaw.

Igbos supported Atiku a Fulani.



Before 1999, Igbos abandoned their own illustrious son Dr Nnamdi Azikiwe and supported Shehu Shagari an Hausa.


In 1993, Southeast had just 4 states; Imo, Anambra, Abia and Enugu.

MKO Abiola a Yoruba man won Tofa an Hausa man that contested with an Igbo Vice in Anambra state, and the remaining 3 states in the Southeast where Tofa won MKO Abiola, it was a narrow escape as MKO Abiola got more than 45% of total votes cast in those remaining 3 states of the Southeast yet Yorubas keep spreading the lies that Igbos never voted for MKO Abiola.


Go to other regions where MKO Abiola lost, MKO didn't get up to 25%, that is what it means not to vote a candidate in an election.


But a situation a candidate got more than 35% of total votes cast in a state or region, it means that candidate did performed well in that region.
I didn't read your long story but ibos supported PDP.

Oya name anyone if them that isn't in PDP
Re: As A Yoruba Man How I See Igbo People - Lekan by franchasng: 3:12pm On Mar 31
BATified2023:
I didn't read your long story but ibos supported PDP.

Oya name anyone if them that isn't in PDP
Let Yorubas abandone a Yoruba Presidential candidate in APC and support an Igbo Presidential candidate in either APGA or APC or NDC or even Accord Party, that's all
Re: As A Yoruba Man How I See Igbo People - Lekan by franchasng: 3:16pm On Mar 31
BATified2023:
I didn't read your long story but ibos supported PDP.

Oya name anyone if them that isn't in PDP
MKO Abiola was not in PDP when he won Anambra state out of the 4 states in the Southeast that time and still got more than 40% of total votes cast in all the remaining 3 states in the Southeast.



So whether it's PDP or RPG or FQJ, it does not matter, what matters is that Igbos have cheerfully supported Presidential candidates from virtually all key tribes in Nigeria.


When Igbos abandoned a whole Dr Nnamdi Azikiwe an eminent Igbo man and voted for Shehu Shagari an Hausa man, I know Shagari was also in PDP right?



You guys should continue sha, other Nigerians are beginning to understand you people better now, time will tell
Re: As A Yoruba Man How I See Igbo People - Lekan by Britishpea: 3:19pm On Mar 31
How Emeka com turn lekan
Re: As A Yoruba Man How I See Igbo People - Lekan by gidgiddy: 3:46pm On Mar 31
franchasng:
If you consider how Igbos have invested heavily outside Southeast, then you will begin to realize that breaking up Nigeria is almost impossible in the next 100 years.


I am also s culprit, I even have more investments outside Southeast than in Southeast, and this is the reality for most Igbos today, so it won't be easy even though we wish for that just for peace, progress and security of lives. One thing that make me desire an Igbo separate nation is security. The security situation in Nigeria is scary and I don't see the situation getting better anytime soon. And I know my people, we dont joke with security, so I know an Igbo nation will be highly secured against Islamic terrorists and land grabbers, who pose the biggest threat to Nigeria's security and existence
Do you think you are the only person who has invested out of their locality? Lebanese own almost half of Apapa, Indians own so much in Ikeja, Chinese have invested a lot all over Nigeria

But their is Lebanon, India and China

Investment has nothing to do with having a seperate country, you dont lose your investments because you are not a citizen of that country. There are many Nigerians that own Investments and property in Britain despite Nigeria getting its independence from Britain
Re: As A Yoruba Man How I See Igbo People - Lekan by gidgiddy: 3:48pm On Mar 31
helinues:
Sit at home for over 2 years without FG intervention. How much more do you want to be controlling yourself.

You are getting your Biafra gradually
At least we can still sit at home, there are millions of people in IDP camps in the same Nigeria who have lost all hope of ever sitting in their homes
Re: As A Yoruba Man How I See Igbo People - Lekan by T9ksy(m): 3:50pm On Mar 31
franchasng:
Let Yorubas abandone a Yoruba Presidential candidate in APC and support an Igbo Presidential candidate in either APGA or APC or NDC or even Accord Party, that's all
You na go wait, tire.
Re: As A Yoruba Man How I See Igbo People - Lekan by BATified2023: 3:52pm On Mar 31
franchasng:
MKO Abiola was not in PDP when he won Anambra state out of the 4 states in the Southeast that time and still got more than 40% of total votes cast in all the remaining 3 states in the Southeast.



So whether it's PDP or RPG or FQJ, it does not matter, what matters is that Igbos have cheerfully supported Presidential candidates from virtually all key tribes in Nigeria.


When Igbos abandoned a whole Dr Nnamdi Azikiwe an eminent Igbo man and voted for Shehu Shagari an Hausa man, I know Shagari was also in PDP right?



You guys should continue sha, other Nigerians are beginning to understand you people better now, time will tell
is 20/100 a pass mark?

If your child should come home with that result, will u praise him or her?
Re: As A Yoruba Man How I See Igbo People - Lekan by BATified2023: 3:53pm On Mar 31
franchasng:
Let Yorubas abandone a Yoruba Presidential candidate in APC and support an Igbo Presidential candidate in either APGA or APC or NDC or even Accord Party, that's all
if we see a credible one n not a packaged fraud like the one u want us to follow.

If we see someone better than others, if not u are on your own n nobody send u.


U supported PDP n not anyone
Re: As A Yoruba Man How I See Igbo People - Lekan by franchasng: 4:01pm On Mar 31
BATified2023:
is 20/100 a pass mark?

If your child should come home with that result, will u praise him or her?
Tinubu didn't even got close to the percentage of total votes cast in Northwest in 2023 like MKO Abiola got in Southeast in 1993 yet you guys claim North voted for Tinubu but Igbos didn't vote for MKO Abiola.


Any Presidential candidate that get 35% and above of total votes cast in any state did excellently well, and MKO Abiola got more than 40% of total votes cast in all the 4 Southeast states in 1993. In the 3 Southeast states Tofa won MKO Abiola, it was a narrow win less than 10%. But check other states where Tofa won MKO Abiola in the North, MKO Abiola didn't even get up to 20%, which shows that Igbos massively voted for MKO Abiola and maybe if not that there was a prominent Igbo running as VP to Tofa, maybe MKO Abiola would have won all the 4 Southeast states in that 1993 Presidential election yet you and your people out of unfounded and deep-rooted hatred claim that Igbos never voted for MKO Abiola.


Last last na nature and karma go take care of una sha
Re: As A Yoruba Man How I See Igbo People - Lekan by ottersberger(m): 4:18pm On Mar 31
Idaytesj29:
Which payback? What did Yoruba owe you? You don ment. Kolomental dey worry you
Una go still collect, dey play!.

Yoruba tribalism has always existed; it's nothing new. However, I am encouraged to see that the younger generation is rejecting the poisoned chalice handed down by their parents. This is evident in the increasing number of marriages between Igbo and Yoruba people.

Awolowo did the Yoruba people an injustice by promoting and propagating tribalism.
Re: As A Yoruba Man How I See Igbo People - Lekan by franchasng: 4:22pm On Mar 31
BATified2023:
if we see a credible one n not a packaged fraud like the one u want us to follow.

If we see someone better than others, if not u are on your own n nobody send u.


U supported PDP n not anyone
If we are to place Peter Obi side by side with Tinubu using just few key indices, you and your kins already know that Tinubu can't match Obi.


First, let start with educational background.


Peter Obi's educational background from Primary to University is well known without any ambiguity.

Tinubu on the other hand claimed he attended a secondary school that have not been established when he attended it. Nobody even knows the Primary school Tinubu attended and he became President, this can only happen in a disorganized nation like Nigeria.


Let's stop there.


Source of income.


Every Tom D and Harry knows how Peter Obi started his trading business right from when he was a student at UNN such that Sultan of Sokoto even rented a room out of the rooms he constructed from his trading business proceeds as a student. He moved from there and continued trading after university and later relocated to UK where he later got a £1million loan he used to expand his business and opened up retail stores.


He became rich legitimately before joining politics.


Now let's take a look at Tinubu's source of income.


He claimed he inherited the wealth from his late adopted mother Madam Tinubu. He later claimed he worked with Deloitte and PwC and also Mobil. But verifiable court records in US showed that he forfeited $450,000 alleged fraud/drug trafficking related money in his personal US bank account. He had to forfeit it to the US government from outside US because when this was found, he had already left US and was already playing politics in Nigeria.


Which means that Tinubu's source of wealth was completely illegal and crooked.

He used the proceeds of the wealth to buy his way to become Lagos state Governor after previously winning election to represent Lagos as Senator under military regime which didn't take effect.

Tinubu held on to Lagos from 1999 to 2007 and after his tenure expired, he refused to let Lagos free, he used the enormous wealth he acquired as Lagos state Governor to build a strong political structure that made him the emperor of Lagos selecting the next Governors and every other officials in Lagos even after leaving office as Governor, something that ought to happen in any democratic setting, instead his people worshipped and celebrated such unscrupulous act as being politically savvy.


Tinubu continued to collect pension and gratuity as former Lagos state Governor.


Peter Obi on the other hand washed his hands off Anambra state the moment his tenure expired and even rejected the Pension and Gratuity Anambra state government offered to him as ex Governor of Anambra state saying that what he has acquired outside politics is more than enough for him that he does not need anything else from Anambra state, that his tenure is over and that he has moved on, that they should channel the money to building Anambra and paying civil servants their pensions and gratuity.


Let's now come to political style.


Peter Obi believes that to win any election, that all he needs to do is to tell the people his intention and how he would govern differently to bring positive change and not by throwing money around to influence people to support him or vote for him, which led to his nickname: "we no de give shishi" right from Anambra.


Now compare it with Tinubu's political style that believes in throwing billions around and using money to hire NURTW thugs to influence people to vote and support him, which leads to him incurring so much cost to emerge winner of any election hence the need to loot once sworn in to recover the billions he spent campaigning to win.



Let me stop here.



Which of the two candidates above deserves to be voted into office?


That's if you will ever say the truth grin
Re: As A Yoruba Man How I See Igbo People - Lekan by franchasng: 4:34pm On Mar 31
BATified2023:
if we see a credible one n not a packaged fraud like the one u want us to follow.

If we see someone better than others, if not u are on your own n nobody send u.


U supported PDP n not anyone
who were the people that represented PDP in those elections; goats abi cows?


My brother u and your people no get any tangible excuse aside your deep-rooted tribalism and dislike for Igbos. Own it with your full chest my brother heavens won't fall.
Re: As A Yoruba Man How I See Igbo People - Lekan by BATified2023: 4:35pm On Mar 31
franchasng:
If we are to place Peter Obi side by side with Tinubu using just few key indices, you and your kins already know that Tinubu can't match Obi.


First, let start with educational background.


Peter Obi's educational background from Primary to University is well known without any ambiguity.

Tinubu on the other hand claimed he attended a secondary school that have not been established when he attended it. Nobody even knows the Primary school Tinubu attended and he became President, this can only happen in a disorganized nation like Nigeria.


Let's stop there.


Source of income.


Every Tom D and Harry knows how Peter Obi started his trading business right from when he was a student at UNN such that Sultan of Sokoto even rented a room out of the rooms he constructed from his trading business proceeds as a student. He moved from there and continued trading after university and later relocated to UK where he later got a £1million loan he used to expand his business and opened up retail stores.


He became rich legitimately before joining politics.


Now let's take a look at Tinubu's source of income.


He claimed he inherited the wealth from his late adopted mother Madam Tinubu. He later claimed he worked with Deloitte and PwC and also Mobil. But verifiable court records in US showed that he forfeited $450,000 alleged fraud/drug trafficking related money in his personal US bank account. He had to forfeit it to the US government from outside US because when this was found, he had already left US and was already playing politics in Nigeria.


Which means that Tinubu's source of wealth was completely illegal and crooked.

He used the proceeds of the wealth to buy his way to become Lagos state Governor after previously winning election to represent Lagos as Senator under military regime which didn't take effect.

Tinubu held on to Lagos from 1999 to 2007 and after his tenure expired, he refused to let Lagos free, he used the enormous wealth he acquired as Lagos state Governor to build a strong political structure that made him the emperor of Lagos selecting the next Governors and every other officials in Lagos even after leaving office as Governor, something that ought to happen in any democratic setting, instead his people worshipped and celebrated such unscrupulous act as being politically savvy.


Tinubu continued to collect pension and gratuity as former Lagos state Governor.


Peter Obi on the other hand washed his hands off Anambra state the moment his tenure expired and even rejected the Pension and Gratuity Anambra state government offered to him as ex Governor of Anambra state saying that what he has acquired outside politics is more than enough for him that he does not need anything else from Anambra state, that his tenure is over and that he has moved on, that they should channel the money to building Anambra and paying civil servants their pensions and gratuity.


Let's now come to political style.


Peter Obi believes that to win any election, that all he needs to do is to tell the people his intention and how he would govern differently to bring positive change and not by throwing money around to influence people to support him or vote for him, which led to his nickname: "we no de give shishi" right from Anambra.


Now compare it with Tinubu's political style that believes in throwing billions around and using money to hire NURTW thugs to influence people to vote and support him, which leads to him incurring so much cost to emerge winner of any election hence the need to loot once sworn in to recover the billions he spent campaigning to win.



Let me stop here.



Which of the two candidates above deserves to be voted into office?


That's if you will ever say the truth grin
ok

Let's talk about their legacies as governor.

Let's list the things they did as governor that is still standing till today?
Re: As A Yoruba Man How I See Igbo People - Lekan by johnmartus(m): 4:37pm On Mar 31
Lol since 2007 I guess the guy just introduce to cyberspace.
JohnAOne:
The days of impersonation and GASLIGHTING are over.
Re: As A Yoruba Man How I See Igbo People - Lekan by franchasng: 4:43pm On Mar 31
BATified2023:
ok

Let's talk about their legacies as governor.

Let's list the things they did as governor that is still standing till today?
My brother, this has been said over and over.


Anambra state was less than 20 years when Peter Obi governed it. The state was in total shambles, controlled by very dangerous political godfathers like Tinubu, Peter Obi spent most part of his years in office fighting these dangerous Anambra political godfathers that held Anambra state on ransom for years before Obi even became Governor. They used their political might to even remove Peter Obi as Governor twice, you can imagine the battle Obi faced.


In the history of Nigeria, no other state Governor's official residence have ever been bombed by political adversaries except Anambra state and it happened during Peter Obi tenure. He had to flee to Asaba and was operating from Grand Hotel Asaba.


See, if you don't know where someone started his journey, you will never appreciate the little success they are celebrating in their life.


Oshodi and Apapa local governments in Lagos combined were richer than Anambra state when Peter Obi governed Anambra state. Peter Obi brought sanity to Anambra. Brought insecurity under control.


Peter Obi won the godfatherism battle for Anambra people.



Imagine a Lagos state Governor defeating Tinubu's godfatherism grip on Lagos, in fact only such achievement is more than enough to rate that Governor as the best Governor of Lagos state and Nigeria cheesy
Re: As A Yoruba Man How I See Igbo People - Lekan by Bhella5(m): 4:47pm On Mar 31
Op thinks politics started in 1999. Shior! huh
Re: As A Yoruba Man How I See Igbo People - Lekan by aswani(m): 4:47pm On Mar 31
ariesbull:
I always write about Igbo as a tribe, and I won’t stop writing about them because I have noticed something about them.

Igbo are actually very good people, but many of us have not noticed it. I think our tribalism has created bitterness between them and other tribes. What do I mean? As one country, we have not allowed equality and balance in our politics. Since our democracy started, the Yoruba have ruled, and the Hausa/Fulani have also ruled, but we have refused to give the Igbo the opportunity to rule. We keep denying them that chance.

In 1999, many Igbo people left their own leaders and voted for Obasanjo, and they also supported Yar’Adua. In fact, during Jonathan’s time, I began to understand the Igbo better. They insisted on supporting Jonathan. I thought it was because Jonathan was from the South-South, though not from the South-East, but maybe they understood Buhari better than most of us did. In the end, Buhari turned out to be a disaster.

In 2023, Igbo people refused to vote for Tinubu, and many Yorubas counted it as tribalism, but that is not completely true. In fact, I have seen some Igbo people say they were ready to vote for people like Akinwumi Adesina or Yemi Osinbajo, but Tinubu was a capital NO for them. Personally, I also did not like Tinubu as president, but this is not about me. Meanwhile, Tinubu has also failed woefully.

I think the problem with many Yoruba people is that we are not sincere when discussing tribalism. In fact, tribalism is very strong between the Hausa and the Yoruba. If someone had told me before that Yorubas are this tribalistic, I would not have believed it until Asiwaju became president. Now many people support him whether he performs well or not, simply because he is their tribesman. That is not good.

When we are talking about sincerity in good governance, regardless of tribe, we should give some credit to the Igbo. Yes, some people say Igbo are arrogant or proud and sometimes lack respect, and even they themselves admit that. But when it comes to good governance, they can be very sincere. Look at the case of Ike Ekweremadu in the UK—about 90% of Igbo people supported his prosecution because they believed he failed as a politician.

I have also seen many Igbo people say they would rather vote for Osinbajo or Adesina than some Igbo politicians like Ikpeazu, Orji Uzor Kalu, or even Soludo. So my question is: is it too much for the Igbo to present their own candidate since 1999? Yet some sycophants say the Igbo are the most tribalistic. How?

Another question often asked by Tinubu supporters is: “What would anyone have done differently?” My answer to that foolish question is simple—any failed government should not be given a second term. If we can put our tribes aside and hold leaders accountable, then any government coming after will govern properly because they will understand that what people want is good governance.

But many Yoruba people believe it is better to support your brother even if he performs poorly, as long as he is Yoruba. Many Igbo people would not support such a situation.

When Tinubu brought Ambode in 2015, many Igbo people initially supported Jimi Agbaje of the PDP. But before the end of Ambode’s first term, many Igbo people fell in love with his performance and declared their support for him, even within the APC—a party some people claim Igbo hate. Yet Tinubu and the APC refused to give Ambode a second-term ticket. Whatever happened between them is not my concern, but it shows that Igbo people appreciate good governance.

They believe in Peter Obi’s capacity, and that is why they support him. They are not just following him blindly.

I think if the Igbo are given the chance to rule this country, Nigeria could become better. I am not talking about politicians like Orji Uzor Kalu, Ikpeazu, Soludo, or Ekweremadu. I am talking about Peter Obi. I believe in that man, and I never believed in Tinubu—and he has proved me right.

The Yoruba have ruled more than once and have disappointed many people. The Hausa have also ruled and failed. It may be time to pass the baton and give the Igbo a chance to see what they can do.

When it comes to good governance in Nigeria as a whole—not just at the state level—I believe the Igbo are among the most sincere.
You are conflating Ndigbo with Obidients, there is an intersection but not the same.

Ndigbo will rule this country, Prof Soludo and/or Bianca hopefully, but not a hope in hell will Nigerians succumb to the abuse and insults of Obidients in order to allow themselves to be bullied into voting Peter Obi.

Hopefully when Prof or Bianca step to the plate, they will succeed without their "homebase", same as Obj did.
Re: As A Yoruba Man How I See Igbo People - Lekan by Bhella5(m): 4:49pm On Mar 31
franchasng:
My brother, this has been said over and over.


Anambra state was less than 20 years when Peter Obi governed it. The state was in total shambles, controlled by very dangerous political godfathers like Tinubu, Peter Obi spent most part of his years in office fighting these dangerous Anambra political godfathers that held Anambra state on ransom for years before Obi even became Governor. They used their political might to even remove Peter Obi as Governor twice, you can imagine the battle Obi faced.


In the history of Nigeria, no other state Governor's official residence have ever been bombed by political adversaries except Anambra state and it happened during Peter Obi tenure. He had to flee to Asaba and was operating from Grand Hotel Asaba.


See, if you don't know where someone started his journey, you will never appreciate the little success they are celebrating in their life.


Oshodi and Apapa local governments in Lagos combined were richer than Anambra state when Peter Obi governed Anambra state. Peter Obi brought sanity to Anambra. Brought insecurity under control.


Peter Obi won the godfatherism battle for Anambra people.



Imagine a Lagos state Governor defeating Tinubu's godfatherism grip on Lagos, in fact only such achievement is more than enough to rate that Governor as the best Governor of Lagos state and Nigeria cheesy
Those are not achievements. Show workings leave chochocho
Re: As A Yoruba Man How I See Igbo People - Lekan by BATified2023: 4:50pm On Mar 31
franchasng:
My brother, this has been said over and over.


Anambra state was less than 20 years when Peter Obi governed it. The state was in total shambles, controlled by very dangerous political godfathers like Tinubu, Peter Obi spent most part of his years in office fighting these dangerous Anambra political godfathers that held Anambra state on ransom for years before Obi even became Governor. They used their political might to even remove Peter Obi as Governor twice, you can imagine the battle Obi faced.


In the history of Nigeria, no other state Governor's official residence have ever been bombed by political adversaries except Anambra state and it happened during Peter Obi tenure. He had to flee to Asaba and was operating from Grand Hotel Asaba.


See, if you don't know where someone started his journey, you will never appreciate the little success they are celebrating in their life.


Oshodi and Apapa local governments in Lagos combined were richer than Anambra state when Peter Obi governed Anambra state. Peter Obi brought sanity to Anambra. Brought insecurity under control.


Peter Obi won the godfatherism battle for Anambra people.



Imagine a Lagos state Governor defeating Tinubu's godfatherism grip on Lagos, in fact only such achievement is more than enough to rate that Governor as the best Governor of Lagos state and Nigeria cheesy
are these obi legacies?
Re: As A Yoruba Man How I See Igbo People - Lekan by franchasng: 4:57pm On Mar 31
BATified2023:
are these obi legacies?
A search on Google will show you his achievements in Anambra. Even Arise TV have dedicated a day to showcase Peter Obi's achievements as Anambra state Governor, so I don't need to reinvent more or repeat what has been said over and over.


If Yorubas had their own nation, I can swear with anything that Yorubas will never allow someone like Bola Tinubu to become their President, never!


But because it is Nigerian politics where you guys believe that Bola Tinubu is the only Yoruba man that have the enormous wealth, influence and political ruggedness to grab power for the Yorubas, you guys keep projecting him falsely as your best choice which he is far from.



Let's end the argument cos I need to do some tasks for my thesis which is already running behind schedule.

Have a nice day and thanks for your attention to this matter
Re: As A Yoruba Man How I See Igbo People - Lekan by ariesbull(op): 5:44pm On Mar 31
Are you saying that Yoruba folks doesn't have the capacity to be fair and objective ?
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How Emeka com turn lekan
Re: As A Yoruba Man How I See Igbo People - Lekan by Elusive001: 5:56pm On Mar 31
For me as an Igboman, it is not really about the Igboman ruling perse. I will prefer a just, fair, honest, competent, sincere, and empathic northerner or Yoruba to people like Orji Kalu, T.A Orji, Ikpeazu, Umahi, Nnamani, Rochas, Uzodinma, and their likes.


We want a fair, honest, just, competent, sincere, transparent, empathic, leader. A leader who is not will not fold his arms.and watch Nigerians killed with reckless abandon.
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