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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 3:37pm On Mar 31 |
DeepSight:What is the message was he passing when he said this I strongly recommend watching this, I really learned a lot.What is the message is some one passing if they learned alot from a video like that, made by a Kenyan? Are you going to call the Kenyan who did the research a H N now? |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 3:39pm On Mar 31 |
benalvino3:+ Never mind. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by tctrills: 3:46pm On Mar 31 |
DeepSight:My guy, I respect you and myself too much that I wouldn't just post a brunch of untruths just because I hate or dislike someone and I expect the same from you. If you have any evidence that the Trump administration is removing or deleting black/slavery history please share but if not, it wouldn't be fair to make things up just for the sake of argument. Let us be guided |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 3:56pm On Mar 31 |
tctrills:+ Sometimes one can only shake one's head at the confidence with which you make some utterances. The effort to erase black historical contribution as well as the effects of slavery, segregation and racism has been massive. It is crazy that anyone can claim to be unaware of it. That is why Ijebos asked if you were living in a black hole. Anyway, I extract the following. There is much much more, but for starters - ----------------- Since the start of the second Trump administration in January 2025, there has been a significant shift in how the federal government handles the presentation of Black history, slavery, and diversity initiatives. Critics and historians describe these actions as an effort to "erase" or "sanitize" difficult aspects of American history, while the administration frames them as a move toward "colorblind" meritocracy and "Restoring Truth and Sanity" to the national narrative. Below is a breakdown of these efforts, categorized by the specific mechanisms used. 1. Executive Orders Targeting "Ideology" in History The administration has utilized executive orders to directly intervene in how history is taught and memorialized at the federal level. EO "Restoring Truth and Sanity to American History" (March 27, 2025): This order targets what it describes as a "distorted narrative driven by ideology." It specifically directs the Interior Department to reinstate or remove historical materials at National Park sites to ensure they do not "inappropriately minimize" certain aspects of history or promote "false reconstructions." EO "Ending Radical Indoctrination in K-12 Schooling" (Jan 29, 2025): This order threatens to withhold federal funding from schools that teach "discriminatory equity ideology." It defines this as any curriculum suggesting that individuals are inherently oppressive or bear responsibility for past actions of their race (often targeting the teaching of systemic racism). Abolishing the Department of Education: The administration has moved to close the federal Department of Education, aiming to return all curricular authority to the states. Critics argue this will allow states to remove Black history requirements without federal oversight or civil rights enforcement. 2. Removal of Historical Displays and Memorials Several high-profile instances of physical and digital history removal have occurred under these new mandates: Fort Pulaski "Scarred Back" Removal (Sept 2025): The famous 1863 photograph of "Gordon," a man who escaped slavery with severe whipping scars, was removed from a National Monument display in Georgia to comply with the "Restoring Truth" order. The President's House Enslaved People Exhibit (Feb 2026): The administration attempted to remove biographical panels about nine people enslaved by George Washington at the Philadelphia memorial. This was temporarily blocked by a court order. Pentagon & Federal Web Purges: In early 2025, the Pentagon marked thousands of pages for deletion. This included a page on Jackie Robinson, which was only restored after a massive public outcry. Removal of Black Lives Matter Plaza: The administration oversaw the removal of the Black Lives Matter street mural and signage in Washington, D.C. 3. Funding Cuts for Black Institutions and Programs The administration has shifted federal financial priorities away from institutions dedicated to African American advancement. Defunding Minority-Serving Institutions (MSIs): In late 2025, the Department of Education halted both discretionary and mandatory funding for MSIs, citing a DOJ opinion that race-based funding is "unconstitutional." HBCU Scrutiny: While the administration claims to support "excellence" at Historically Black Colleges and Universities, it has simultaneously rolled back DEI initiatives and reduced specific Dept. of Education grants that supported these schools' unique missions. Head Start Restrictions: Federal guidance issued in 2025 banned the use of federal funds for any training or materials that promote "Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion," impacting early childhood programs that serve many Black families. 4. International Revisionism UN Vote Against Condemning Slavery (March 2026): The U.S. was one of only three nations to vote against a United Nations resolution that called the transatlantic slave trade a "crime against humanity" and supported reparations. The administration argued the resolution was part of a "far-left" effort to divide nations. _______________ *Culled. Don't worry, I know you will dismiss everything above as nothing. Standard. There are many many more examples, such as the crackdown on Critical Race Theory, the removal of black soldiers of honor from Department of Defense records, and even things as petty as removing pictures of black heroes from the white house. But as I said, you will deny everything with a wave of your hand and even call me a liar and "wicked." |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by tctrills: 4:07pm On Mar 31 |
DeepSight:Oga, this is just a copy and paste that truly is meaningless. Let's have a very meaningful exercise that will benefit both of us please. List just one historic fact that used to be taught before Trump that is no longer taught. That's all you needed to do. Don't send me anyone's article with out listing just one historic fact that has been deleted. Do this to show your honesty. Thanks |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 4:14pm On Mar 31 |
tctrills:How the goal posts shift. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 4:16pm On Mar 31 |
Africans will always look for who to blame. Never themselves
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by tctrills: 4:18pm On Mar 31 |
IjeBos:No one reads what you write |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 4:21pm On Mar 31 |
bemeruca:It's not like you are likely to turn blue or I go red all of a sudden, but we can be ideologically different and still agree to disagree with civility. It takes brain power, I admit. The question is, do you and I have such powers, or wish to cultivate it? |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 4:23pm On Mar 31 |
tctrills:+ Its lazy to claim "copy and paste" and walk away. Kindly address the points in that "copy and paste" if you can. I find this disgusting and cowardly. You ask for details, I go to the trouble of extracting details for you and this is all you have to say? That its "copy and paste?" If I may ask, when they are all recorded events, am I supposed to write them all out in my own new words? ? ? ? At all events, I knew how you would react. Your reaction is cowardly and escapist and it shows you are the one who has been either ignorant or dishonest. Anyway, not for your sake, but for passersby, I leave more - - - -- - - - -- - - In the second Trump administration (2025–present), efforts to reshape the national narrative regarding Black history and slavery have intensified through executive orders, federal agency directives, and budget reallocations. Below are exhaustive examples and links detailing these actions, categorized by their impact on public history, education, and federal institutions. 1. Removal and Alteration of Public Exhibits (National Parks & Museums): The administration has used the "Restoring Truth and Sanity to American History" Executive Order (issued March 27, 2025) to audit and remove content deemed "disparaging" to the United States. The "Scourged Back" Photo Removal: In September 2025 - the Department of the Interior ordered the removal of the 1863 photograph of "Gordon" (an enslaved man with severe whipping scars) from National Park sites, arguing it promoted a "corrosive ideology."Source: National Parks Conservation Association (NPCA) - Erasing History - President’s House Slavery Exhibit (Philadelphia): In January 2026, the National Park Service removed plaques detailing the lives of nine people enslaved by George Washington at the President’s House site. The city of Philadelphia successfully sued to have them temporarily reinstalled in February 2026.Source: Equal Justice Initiative - NPS Removes Exhibit on Enslaved People Richmond National Battlefield Scrutiny: Leaked documents from July 2025 showed that signage at the Maggie L. Walker National Historic Site (dedicated to the first Black woman to charter a bank) was flagged for review because it contained "negative" information about America’s racial past. Source: The Richmonder. Signs at Richmond Sites Flagged National Museum of African American History & Culture (NMAAHC): The administration issued an Executive Order specifically targeting the Smithsonian, criticizing exhibits that describe the "atrocities surrounding colonialism and enslavement" as "partisan ideology. "Source: Buffalo State Record - Black History Month under Trump’s Second Term 2. Education and Curriculum Restrictions: The administration has targeted "Discriminatory Equity Ideology" (its term for DEI and CRT) to limit how systemic racism and slavery are taught in schools. EO "Ending Radical Indoctrination in K-12 Schooling" (Jan 29, 2025): This order threatens to pull Title I and IDEA funding from schools that teach that "an individual... bears responsibility for... actions committed in the past by other members of the same race."Source: White House Official Action Ending Radical Indoctrination Reestablishment of the 1776 Commission: The administration re-chartered the 1776 Commission to promote "patriotic education" and develop the "Presidential 1776 Award" for students who demonstrate a "celebratory" understanding of the American founding, often omitting the role of slavery.Source: Dept. of Education 1776 Commission Charter - Banned Words in Federal Grants: In early 2025, the administration barred the use of words like "race," "diversity," and "belonging" in grant applications for programs like Head Start, effectively forcing organizations to scrub racial context to receive funding. Source: Word in Black - Teaching Truth is Under Attack 3. Institutional and Holiday Rollbacks: Beyond curriculum, the administration has moved to reduce the visibility of Black historical milestones within the federal government. Elimination of "Identity Months" at the Pentagon: In January 2025, the Department of War (formerly Defense) issued a memo stating that official resources would no longer be used for "cultural awareness months," including Black History Month. Source: The Record - Identity Months Dead within Department Juneteenth and MLK Day Fee Changes: In 2026, the administration eliminated free-admission days for National Parks on MLK Day and Juneteenth, while designating the President’s birthday as a new fee-free day. Source: Kauai Now News - Hirono Slams Trump’s Attacks on National Parks Removal of Black Lives Matter Plaza: The administration coordinated with local and federal authorities to remove the "Black Lives Matter" mural and signage from the street leading to the White House in early 2025.Source: Congressman Bennie Thompson - Trump's Policies Target Black Americans 4. Civil Rights Advocacy & Analysis: Several legal and civil rights organizations have tracked these efforts as a coordinated strategy to dismantle racial progress. ACLU Analysis: The ACLU has documented the administration's "all-out assault" on DEI, describing it as an effort to erase marginalized communities from the public square. Source: ACLU Trump’s Attacks on DEI Thurgood Marshall Institute: Their report on "Project 2025" implementation details how the abolition of the Department of Education’s civil rights office specifically removes protections for Black students regarding historical curriculum. Source: TMI - Project 2025 Threats to Education. -------------------- *Culled There you go. And there is yet even more. Feel free to dismiss it as "copy and paste" as though these events and acts are imaginary. I knew how you would react anyway, I only put this here for others and for posterity. Goodluck! |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 4:27pm On Mar 31 |
tctrills:+ You are destroying any pretense to integrity you have. You are the same person who asked for instances of actions at parks and museums. Now that you have been presented with such, you are changing the goal post. Tomorrow you will have the nerve to call me a liar. Shior. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 4:29pm On Mar 31 |
budaatum:Mere ideological difference is not conflict. Conflict is disagreement + antagonism, especially where there is intent to harm, suppress, or act against the other party. So, disagreement is normal, like you said, we can agree to disagree and still remain civil. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 4:32pm On Mar 31 |
TMZ just finished Lindsey Graham. They posted a picture of Lindsey walking around Disney World by himself holding a bubble wand. wtf. The next day he posted a "beard" pic of him with a gun. Posting the gun pic is the same kind of thing as ono getting married after 30 years as a V. MAGA is a joke.
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 4:32pm On Mar 31 |
bemeruca:I totally agree! And with much civility. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 4:52pm On Mar 31 |
budaatum:When education isn't the foundation of our society, problems increase, especially with so many ethnic groups involved. Conflicts can easily arise too. There are many layers to this issue. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 5:07pm On Mar 31 |
You’re going to have an easier time getting a horse through a keyhole than you would having MAGA to acknowledge facts that don’t fit their narrative. Disgusting and cowardly is the most polite way to describe their relationship with truth DeepSight: |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 5:18pm On Mar 31 |
bemeruca:Yes, education. I'm certain you are aware of my atheism, yet you've seen me defend Islam, and hopefully Christianity. The reason is my awareness of those religions attempting to give humans common foundations. And while one wouldn't call religion education today, the mass education we do have today did evolve from mosques and churches. Today, we have schools and the internet. But schools, not having the same curricula everywhere, and the vast diversity of books and the internet, we are bound to have different ideologies and perspectives on things. Still, we must overcome our differences and have regard for one another. (I say "regard" because 'love' sounds yukky in the context of you and I, lol). This overcoming is what has allowed non-predominant Muslim London to elect a Muslim Mayor thrice. We do not let our differences be the reason we cut off our own noses. One can add to the conflict, Ben, like I claim the likes of Tommy does. Or one can be the salt of the earth. The choice is entirely ones. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by tctrills: 5:26pm On Mar 31 |
DeepSight:I asked for the list of museums Trump has destroyed to remove black or slavery history and I don't remember you giving me any. All you produced was an anti trump article that provided no evidence. I have not changed the goal post, you haven't provided what I requested. Please resend in case I missed it. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by tctrills: 5:31pm On Mar 31 |
DeepSight:Sir, I read your entire article but I am not sure you read it because if you did, you will see that it did not attempt to answer my question. It get it, it is another anti trump article but I am asking for facts not noise. Now can you, 1. List the museums, art works or historic facts that trump has deleted. 2. Mention any detail about black history that used to be taught in schools but has been removed. These 2 questions are easy enough and your article did not resolve any |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by tctrills: 5:36pm On Mar 31 |
DeepSight:One more thing, I am not asking you to go online and find articles written against Trump, because there are millions. I am asking you to answer the questions I put to you. Yes, use as many anti trump article as you wish but at least, let them directly attempt the questions. If there was a museum or artwork that the Trump administration destroyed, I am sure it would be on the internet. If there was a fact in black history that has been deleted from school curriculum, I am sure you will find it online. I am only asking you to produce what you claim. That should be easy enough. You don't even need a long article for this just 2 to 3 sentences is all you need if you have anything to show. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 5:37pm On Mar 31 |
tctrills:+ If you have not seen in the long lists I provided enough evidence of the Trump administration's efforts to erase and water down black heroes, black history and the history of discrimination against blacks in America, I have nothing else to add. What I have put up there is sufficient for both posterity and all honest passersby. Indeed you are the one being bizarre by attempting to deny policies that the administration is open about. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by tctrills: 6:07pm On Mar 31 |
DeepSight:Oga I know you are very smart so no need to act dumb, you did not provide one example of anything trump has eradicated. Here are extracts from your article. Removal and Alteration of Public Exhibits (National Parks & Museums): Not one example given to show if this constitutes removal of black history or if this is just noise. The "Scourged Back" This maybe the best example you have but again removing this from public parks is not same as deleting black history. We can't have every artist work on public parks so it's up to each admin to determine and make a preference. Richmond National Battlefield Scrutiny This is maybe the dumbest of all. According to your copy and paste, the center was flagged for review because it contained "negative" information about America’s racial past. I mean, that a reasonable thing to do. Let's do one more Ending Radical Indoctrination in K-12 Schooling" (Jan 29, 2025): Please explain how this deletes black history. Do you see why I am not taking you serious? |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 6:10pm On Mar 31 |
tctrills:+ This is both lazy and embarrassing. I have nothing to add. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by tctrills: 6:13pm On Mar 31 |
DeepSight:Oga you are the lazy one who refused to do his assignment all you did was copy and paste. That is irresponsible. Please stop reading anti trump articles they mislead you and make you less intelligent Black history in the US is still being taught. It's taught much more than in any other country that had black slaves even under Trump |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 6:18pm On Mar 31 |
tctrills:+ Good evening. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 6:48pm On Mar 31 |
bemeruca:You don't agree with everything she says and neither do I. Especially the bit where she says Nigeria might have been better off it had stayed colonised longer. Because that's like saying slaves would have been better off if they had remained slaves longer, and you know I'd rather die than live as anyone's slave. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 6:50pm On Mar 31 |
benalvino3:I wouldn't assume that one African is speaking for all or even most Africans. And the only reason I would make such a claim is if I want to antagonise and cause conflict. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 8:09pm On Mar 31 |
IjeBos:Correct goal post shifting and completely lacks awareness. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 8:10pm On Mar 31 |
budaatum:You sometimes wonder what's wrong with these guys. We should stay colonized more because of a few fancy roads. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 8:31pm On Mar 31 |
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