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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 8:36pm On Mar 31

Just leaving this here.
Noem claims she wasn't aware.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 8:40pm On Mar 31

nateevs:
Correct goal post shifting and completely lacks awareness.

And a lack of logic.

It's the same energy as "what do you mean that man tried to kill that woman? Even though he shot her 50 times, she's still breathing."

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 8:42pm On Mar 31

cococandy:
You’re going to have an easier time getting a horse through a keyhole than you would having MAGA to acknowledge facts that don’t fit their narrative.

Disgusting and cowardly is the most polite way to describe their relationship with truth

I think everyone goes through the cycle.
In the end, the realization should set in; You can't have a rational discussion with people who have their own set of facts and then change those facts when it suits them.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 8:45pm On Mar 31

tctrills:
I asked for the list of museums Trump has destroyed to remove black or slavery history and I don't remember you giving me any.
All you produced was an anti trump article that provided no evidence.
I have not changed the goal post, you haven't provided what I requested. Please resend in case I missed it.

Let me help you with that.
https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=museums+where+Trump+has+remove+black+or+slavery+history

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Nateevs2: 8:45pm On Mar 31

When I went on record here and said Tyler did not kill Charlie, jokers like Dayo begin dey foam for mouth.

Like I said, I have not been wrong on all of the major issues. I am not wrong on this one either.

Tyler did not kill Charlie Kirk. I knew that the day after and said so. What is very sad though is the FBI and especially Kash Patel prosecuting this all the way, knowing fully well that the case was never iron-clad.

This was a major operation by the FBI to bring confusion to the case, so that the real perpetrators can get away with murder, literally.

Just like JFK, another magic bullet.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 8:50pm On Mar 31

Nateevs2:
When I went on record here and said Tyler did not kill Charlie, jokers like Dayo begin dey foam for mouth.

Like I said, I have not been wrong on all of the major issues. I am not wrong on this one either.

Tyler did not kill Charlie Kirk. I knew that the day after and said so. What is very sad though is the FBI prosecuting this all the way, knowing fully well that the case was never iron-clad.

This was a major operation by the FBI to bring confusion to the case, so that the real perpetrators can get away with murder, literally.

Just like JFK, another magic bullet.

You should be replaced with a robot.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 8:53pm On Mar 31

tctrills:
Oga you are the lazy one who refused to do his assignment all you did was copy and paste. That is irresponsible.
Please stop reading anti trump articles they mislead you and make you less intelligent

Black history in the US is still being taught. It's taught much more than in any other country that had black slaves even under Trump

Just for anyone reading this.
This is what a Republican Federal Judge said after Trump tried to remove a slavery exhibit.

Rufe, an appointee of Republican President George W. Bush, began her written order with a quote from George Orwell's dystopian novel "1984" and compared the Trump administration to the book's totalitarian regime called the Ministry of Truth, which revised historical records to align with its own narrative.

"As if the Ministry of Truth in George Orwell's 1984 now existed, with its motto 'Ignorance is Strength,' this Court is now asked to determine whether the federal government has the power it claims — to dissemble and disassemble historical truths when it has some domain over historical facts," Rufe wrote. "It does not.

Here is the ruling if anyone is interested in reading it:
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.paed.648842/gov.uscourts.paed.648842.53.0.pdf

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 9:13pm On Mar 31

3D chess according to the Trumpanzees 🤡🤡

It all worked out well for his master Putin though. Western unity damaged. America on the verge of quitting NATO. Massive economic disruption internationally. And most importantly- Russia able to sell its oil again and at an elevated price, plus stocks of American weapons wasted in the Middle East rather than sent to Ukraine. Russian asset delivering to his master as promised.

You guys said we were fear mongering 🥱

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by tctrills: 9:13pm On Mar 31

IjeBos:
Just for anyone reading this.
This is what a Republican Federal Judge said after Trump tried to remove a slavery exhibit.

Here is the ruling if anyone is interested in reading it:
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.paed.648842/gov.uscourts.paed.648842.53.0.pdf

Not read. Ignored

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by TV01(m): 9:35pm On Mar 31*

Deepsight, you have uttered a number of claims about the bible and what it teaches. And, I have repeatedly claimed that you are ignorantly or maliciously twisting the holy scripture. Whilst not claiming to be 100% sure of your motives, a picture is beginning to form.

I am happy to defend and debunk every false allegation and untruth posted about Christianity and the bible. To begin, and to test just how honest a discussant you are, I will start with one point you have repeatedly made, and ask you questions on that basis.

You stated that the distinction Christians make between the OT and NT is futile because “Christ came to fulfil the law not to abolish it”. You failed to explicate on the meaning of fulfil or abolish, but are clearly implying that the OT laws are still binding on Christians.

Before I show you your error clearly from scripture, let me offer up a simple analogy as follows; My brother enters a contract with a 3rd party. The contractual terms mean my brother must settle a debt arising by making a payment to the 3rd party to close out the contract. As it transpires, my brother is unable to fulfil this obligation. My brother contacts me – seeking ways to solve the issue. Can we abrogate? Can we annul? Neither, I say the TVs always pay their debts. I make the payment, settling the debt, thus fulfilling or, discharging the legal requirement – not abolishing, but fulfilling by paying. Now to scripture (NKJV).

John 1 - 16 And of His fullness we have all received, and grace for grace. 17 For the law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.

Romans 8 – 3 for what the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, on account of sin: He condemned sin in the flesh, 4 that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. (Romans 8:1-11 is great for understanding the difference between flesh\law\works vis-à-vis spirit\grace\faith, as is the next scripture)

Galatians 2 - 16 knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law but by faith in Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, that we might be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law; for by the works of the law no flesh shall be justified . (the law had to go because although righteous, it was unattainable, hence grace – hallelujah!)

Colossians 2 – 13 And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses, 14 having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. (circumcision here is a metaphor for the law and the requirements, are those of the law itself)

The questions are as follows and only require yes or no answers.

1. Do you agree that you are wrong on your reading of the gospel in claiming the OT law is still in effect and binding on Christians?

2. Do you agree at a minimum that there is an alternative reading that is, honest, backed by scripture (and better than yours – until you provide scripture, to support your reading)

If you can honestly answer the above 2, then please do so, and I shall proceed to your claim that Christianity advocates slavery

TV

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by drisham(m): 9:49pm On Mar 31

Nateevs2:
When I went on record here and said Tyler did not kill Charlie, jokers like Dayo begin dey foam for mouth.

Like I said, I have not been wrong on all of the major issues. I am not wrong on this one either.

Tyler did not kill Charlie Kirk. I knew that the day after and said so. What is very sad though is the FBI and especially Kash Patel prosecuting this all the way, knowing fully well that the case was never iron-clad.

This was a major operation by the FBI to bring confusion to the case, so that the real perpetrators can get away with murder, literally.

Just like JFK, another magic bullet.

Good evening sir

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 10:11pm On Mar 31

Are you conservative guys donating your paychecks to isreal as instructed by daddy Trump’s spiritual adviser? Put your money where your mouths are!

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 10:15pm On Mar 31

If they didn’t have anything to hide, they wouldn’t have muddied up the case before any real investigation had been conducted. They were immediately more preoccupied with aligning the murder with the left than they were intent on actually finding who really did it.

Their followers are bottom of the barrel steupid with the way they ate it up immediately . I’m talking their IQ is at scrape-the-bottom-of-the-pan level

Nateevs2:
When I went on record here and said Tyler did not kill Charlie, jokers like Dayo begin dey foam for mouth.

Like I said, I have not been wrong on all of the major issues. I am not wrong on this one either.

Tyler did not kill Charlie Kirk. I knew that the day after and said so. What is very sad though is the FBI and especially Kash Patel prosecuting this all the way, knowing fully well that the case was never iron-clad.

This was a major operation by the FBI to bring confusion to the case, so that the real perpetrators can get away with murder, literally.

Just like JFK, another magic bullet.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by TV01(m): 10:15pm On Mar 31*

buda, you have partially quoted me repeatedly- only, you quote in part and perhaps misread my intent. For the avoidance of doubt.

budaatum:
No one said it was not written. My argument is that hardly any read it as justification to, and your "some" below is an illiterate few described by TV01 as "a man who is any combination of immature, neurotic, lacking n self control, empathy or a real love for his wife. Just stressed, angry or high even", which exists regardless of what religious book is read

You omitted the qualifying sentences before and after.

Think for a moment what that power affords a man who is any combination of immature, neurotic, lacking n self control, empathy or a real love for his wife. Just stressed, angry or high even. Which at some point is pretty much any man who is not perfect. With that, DA will almost certainly be endemic.

The law primarily serves 2 main purposes, to prohibit and to punish. It rarely touches on what is "permitted", taking that as read for the most part.

Further, the law - rightly or wrongly - in many ways signals what is morally acceptable. Ergo if a law stipulates "beating your wife" is permissable and "no one should question why", then DA\DVA will almost certainly become normalised, if not endemic.

To my quote, all humans are imperfect, all men are potentially prone to violence. The male "flight or fight" response is adrenaline and testosterone driven. Lashing out is almost instinctive, potentially amplified by the behaviours I listed, alone or in combination.

Men have to be transformed or develop high degrees of self-control. Like Bill Burr said "its not that there aren't any reasons to hit a woman, we just don't". If the law permits VAW, that says it is morally acceptable, then men will pander to their base instincts. Transformation or self-control is not necessary if DA is a moral good. That is ee.slam.

TV

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 10:25pm On Mar 31

IjeBos:

Just leaving this here.
Noem claims she wasn't aware.

With them it’s always a projection.

I can’t count how many people in their camp carrying torches against drag queens have been caught graping kids. Too many to count. It’s always them projecting what they do onto other people

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by feedthenation(m): 10:29pm On Mar 31

cococandy:
3D chess according to the Trumpanzees 🤡🤡

It all worked out well for his master Putin though. Western unity damaged. America on the verge of quitting NATO. Massive economic disruption internationally. And most importantly- Russia able to sell its oil again and at an elevated price, plus stocks of American weapons wasted in the Middle East rather than sent to Ukraine. Russian asset delivering to his master as promised.

You guys said we were fear mongering 🥱

---MAGAcultists will keep numb to all the unnecessary disruptions Felon 47 and his side bob, Bibi, have caused to the Middle East economy and the world at large---

---Felon 47 wants other countries to pay for the chaos and economic disaster that he created---just like he wanted Mexico to pay for the beautiful wall---Did that ever happen?--- this disaster belongs to Felon 47 and this has accomplished nothing---

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PDPGuy(op): 10:42pm On Mar 31

IjeBos:

Just leaving this here.
Noem claims she wasn't aware.

I weep for Christie and America 😭

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 10:43pm On Mar 31

TV01 while I may not give you the yes or no answers you request, I will still be suitably brief -

TV01:
1. Do you agree that you are wrong on your reading of the gospel in claiming the OT law is still in effect and binding on Christians?

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This was not quite what I argued. I argued that both the OT and NT endorse slavery - and this is beyond cavil.
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Yes, I did point out that Christ said he had not come to abolish the law but to fulfill it, and yes I said this in response tp the repeated attempts by some Christians to disown the barbaric injunctions in the OT.

To be clear, while I dont feel that a Christian is necessarily bound by every edict in scripture, the point I sought to make was two-fold -

1. As a matter of fact Christians did utilize the cited verses to justify their practice of slavery and also their practice of murdering women as witches - and as a matter of fact the latter was carried out by the Church of the day.

2. It is futile to say "oh its the OT" because we are still talking about scripture which is said to be inspired by a God who is supposed to be all good and all wise and beyond time and space. Thus that such a God could make such prescriptions at any time and for any set of people is lamentable.

It calls into question the nature of such a God.

2. Do you agree at a minimum that there is an alternative reading that is, honest, backed by scripture (and better than yours – until you provide scripture, to support your reading)

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I am happy to hear it. Share.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 10:50pm On Mar 31

tctrills:
Not read. Ignored

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Thats a link to judicial commentary and this is what you have to say. No one can take you seriously in this matter. You have shown yourself.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by TV01(m): 10:54pm On Mar 31

DeepSight:
TV01 while I may not give you the yes or no answers you request, I will still be suitably brief -
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This was not quite what I argued. I argued that both the OT and NT endorse slavery - and this is beyond cavil.
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Yes, I did point out that Christ said he had not come to abolish the law but to fulfill it, and yes I said this in response tp the repeated attempts by some Christians to disown the barbaric injunctions in the OT.

Beyonnd cavil cheesy

? By an argument made from ignorance.

You posted and I quote.

DeepSight:
PS: The distinction you and others strive to make between the OT and NT is futile for Christ himself said that he came not to abolish the law but to fulfill it.

Clearly implying that the OT law was not abolished, but still binding on Christians as a result of The Lords Jesus Christ' "fulfilment". Please don't lie, shift the goalposts or do any of the other underhand things you love to allege against others.

I have clearly shown your error - from scripture. Now validate your point from scripture to refute my position or revert to the 2 questions. Fulfil your own self-righteousness grin

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TV

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 10:58pm On Mar 31

nateevs:
Correct goal post shifting and completely lacks awareness.

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You can say that again.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 11:07pm On Mar 31

TV01:
Beyonnd cavil ? By an argument made from ignorance.

You posted and I quote.

Clearly implying that the OT law was not abolished, but still binding on Christians as a result of The Lords Jesus Christ' "fulfilment". Please don't lie, shift the goalposts or do any of the other underhand things you love to allege against others.

I have clearly shown your error - from scripture. Now validate your point from scripture to refute my position or revert to the 2 questions. Fulfil your own self-righteousness !

TV

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My position remains what I said, and no, I am not lying. For example the OT counts it as a sin to shave your facial hair. I dont believe that is binding on any Christian. But I would still wonder at the God that made such prescriptions. In other words, since that is the same God that Christians worship, it does not avail them to excuse such a prescription by saying it is the law and it is the OT - because that very God is supposed to be their God, is supposed to be all wise through all times and ages and for all people.

In law, we also have something called pleading in the alternative. So I plead in the alternative here, that even if we discountenance this matter of OT vs NT, the point you make is irrelevant considering that I also provided NT verses endorsing slavery as well. Thus it is no use debating OT vs NT when the NT endorses same as well.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 11:20pm On Mar 31

IjeBos:
Let me help you with that.
https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=museums+where+Trump+has+remove+black+or+slavery+history

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Just look at all the detail there. Not that anyone NOT living under a rock would need to be shown.
But tctrills has outdone himself today in his display of outright dishonesty.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by feedthenation(m): 11:32pm On Mar 31

IjeBos:

Just leaving this here.
Noem claims she wasn't aware.

---Even the P-D-file-in-Chief---is surprised about the breaking story of Noem's family of God, Guns and Girlfriends---

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kristi-noem-trump-respond-shocking-cross-dressing-photos-tied-her-husband

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 12:21am On Apr 01

Ignore the Pakistani part of this. But this is sick

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by BreakingNews21: 1:14am On Apr 01

Two Kings to "Pass the Dutchie" in a few weeks. cheesy

King's state visit to US to go ahead in April

Sean Coughlan and Noor Nanji, Royal correspondents

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cjd8nkezdyxo

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 2:32am On Apr 01

I knew Maga was dead, but didn't know it's going to turn into a full blown fist fights civil war inside the cult.
Wow!

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 2:33am On Apr 01

benalvino3:
Ignore the Pakistani part of this. But this is sick

The sex-change police man conveniently dodges the fire and goes on a racist tangent

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 2:34am On Apr 01

IjeBos:

Just leaving this here.
Noem claims she wasn't aware.

basilico is nowhere to be found

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 3:08am On Apr 01

USAID. Just like CIA did in Ukraine working with USAID, the same tactic was used in an effort to remove Trump.
Eric Ciaramela had been overheard saying early Jan 2016 saying they would remove Trump.

Eric Ciaramela the CIA analyst based at the WH was the whistleblower who said Trump call to Zelensky regarding Burisma corruption reached impeachment status .
Eric Ciaramela was one of the analysts who drafted the ICA saying Putin interfered with 2016 elections. The intelligence community had concluded Putin had no powers to do that, but Obama ordered them Brennan, Clapper and Comey to rewrite the assessment. Ciaramela and 4 others rewrote the ICA within 3 weeks. Normally an ICE can take months.

Wall Street Apes
@WallStreetApes
USAID money was funneled to an organization that created fake Ukraine and Russiagate evidence against Donald Trump

The CIA then worked with the agency to use that evidence in the impeachments against Donald Trump to remove him as President

Literally treason

“New reporting reveals that USAID and a CIA analyst were behind a project that later led to one of Trump's impeachments independent journalist

— USAID effectively created this organization called the Organized Crime and Corruption Research Project Reporting Project — We also know that it did the foundational research that was essential to bringing the impeachment case against Trump in December of 2019. It was what the CIA whistleblower relied upon in his initial complaint in lDecember of 2019

So those are the facts

— So this is basically a situation where the CIA person in the White House who've been left over by Obama writes a a complaint describing alleged violation of the law. This was then picked up in the house, impeached Trump, the Senate of course declined to hear it. But I think what's so interesting here is that this is an organization that's behind it that's funded by USAID that would not exist without USAID in what I think you have to consider to be domestic politics, which is absolutely forbidden.

— So this looks like regime change tactics that the CIA and USAID had done abroad being brought back home against Donald Trump”

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 3:16am On Apr 01*

JD Vance yesterday said the WH task force on corruption believed Nur Ilhan Elmi Omar committed immigration fraud. He also said the WH believed she has ties to the Somali fraudsters of Minnesota.

🚨 JUST IN: Somali Ilhan Omar just ERUPTED IN PANIC, going berserk on the Trump administration as her fraudsters get arrested and deported — and investigators zero in on her political allies.

Ilhan is in trouble.

She needs to be expelled and DEPORTED. pic.twitter.com/pzz5Y9t8NZ
— QUANTUM GUARD ™️ (@QuantumGuard17) March 31, 2026

Finally located the most accurate source of Ilhan Omar life.
First . Omar in her surname was not her real father.
In 1995, Ilhan entered the United States as a fraudulent member of the “Omar” family. That is not her family. The Omar family is a second, unrelated family which was being granted asylum by the United States. The Omars allowed Ilhan, her sister Sahra, and her father Nur Said to use false names to apply for asylum as members of the Omar family.........
Before seeking asylum, Ilhan Abdullahi Omar’s name was Ilhan Nur Said Elmi, her father’s name was Nur Said Elmi Mohamed, and her sister Sahra Noor’s name was Sahra Nur Said Elmi. Her three siblings, who were granted asylum by the United Kingdom, are Leila Nur Said Elmi, Mohamed Nur Said Elmi, and Ahmed Nur Said Elmi.

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2025/08/the-years-of-living-fraudulently.php

What you have is a criminal living in America, serving in congress and taking every anti america stance possible.
I'll rope in deepsight as a way of proving I hate corruption of any kind.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:24am On Apr 01

Sanctuary Madness: California Politicians Let Two Honduran Illegals Walk Free — Then They Murdered a Young Mom

A 24-year-old single mother working two jobs to support her little boy is dead — gunned down in her car in Sunnyvale, California, on January 7, 2026. Kembery Chirinos-Flores was found shot multiple times, a shotgun left at the scene. She leaves behind a 5-year-old son who will grow up without his mother.

The killers? Two illegal aliens from Honduras: Franquin Inestroza-Martinez, 30, wanted for a separate murder in New Jersey, and Gerzon Chirinos-Munguia, 32, the victim's ex and father of her child, with a history of domestic violence.

Both had been in custody before. ICE placed detainers on them. Santa Clara County politicians, loyal to their sanctuary policies, ignored the requests and released them back onto the streets anyway. No notification to federal authorities. No deportation. Just another day protecting criminal invaders over American lives.

The pair were finally arrested on March 5 after a SWAT takedown — too late for Kembery. DHS slammed the county hard: "Santa Clara sanctuary politicians REFUSED to honor ICE’s arrest detainer... This insanity of refusing to turn cold-blooded killers over to ICE must end."

A child is now motherless because politicians chose foreign criminals over their own citizens.

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