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LordReed:
Which airline was selecting subpar pilots because of skin colour?

I'd also like to know, my Lord, so I can avoid them when next I fly, and see how they qualify to fly that plane in any countries airspace.

raumdeuter:
Actually United Airline specifically stated they wanted 50% of the new hires to be minorities

https://the-european.eu/story-52588/united-commits-to-50-diversity-at-new-pilot-school-in-effort-to-reshape-airline-training.html

Are you intentionally covering your eyes so you do not see "Plans to train"?

They still must qualify after training, Raum! No airline would just stupidly hire unqualified minorities!

GracieX3:
Anyone can fly a plane with minimal instructions? Are you on drugs or what? Do you think aeroplanes are bicycles?

Which pilots flies on minimal instructions? Or you think the minimum flight hours is beans?

Yes, with fly-by-wire, anyone can fly a plane with minimal instruction. Your inputs are calculated and controlled by the computers; they correct mistakes all the time.

I said, " Anyone". Are you a pilot? If you can follow instructions, you can fly a plane

I’ve always wondered this especially with the current pleb-in-chief trying really hard to rewrite history

budaatum:
Are you intentionally covering your eyes so you do not see "Plans to train"?

They still must qualify after training, Raum! No airline would just stupidly hire unqualified minorities!

You can train people all you want, but talented and gifted people are gifted people. That is why we have someone like leonel messi

budaatum:
Are you intentionally covering your eyes so you do not see "Plans to train"?

They still must qualify after training, Raum! No airline would just stupidly hire unqualified minorities!

There is a minimum requirement to even qualify for training just like in Medical school, Not every student who desires to be a surgeon would be trained

They plan to train only the best of the best

raumdeuter:
When did buda do that? There can be an unqualified pilot if he doesnt meet the strict criteria to get into flight school but was admitted using quotas

Do you see your hubris and ignorance? Getting into flight school is not the problem. The criteria is not difficult. The problem is passing the courses and completing your flight hours.

You cannot be a pilot without completing your hours in flight school. No such thing as an unqualified pilot!

You have gone through so much lying just to defend a racist. So disgusting

budaatum:
I'd also like to know, my Lord, so I can avoid them when next I fly, and see how they qualify to fly that plane in any countries airspace.

Meanwhile the signs are pointing to Trump's policy gutting the FAA/ATC as being responsible for the overworked ATC that caused the LaGuardia crash. These ones are busy looking for (their skewed sense of) DEI that doesn't exist.

raumdeuter:
There is a minimum requirement to even qualify for training just like in Medical school, Not every student who desires to be a surgeon would be trained

They plan to train only the best of the best

What is this one saying? You must first be a qualified doctor to even become a resident doctor to learn to become a surgeon.

Who told you that they plan to train the best of the best?

One of the best doctors today passed the minimum in all her exams. The best student in her class is not the best surgeon but she is. Passing exams and being very good in practice are not the same. 50 percent in exams and 70 percent in exams can switch in practice. Who exactly is the best of the best?


And why must the best of the best be a white man?

benalvino3:
Yes, with fly-by-wire, anyone can fly a plane with minimal instruction. Your inputs are calculated and controlled by the computers; they correct mistakes all the time.

I said, " Anyone". Are you a pilot? If you can follow instructions, you can fly a plane

Ok ask Air Canada Express to hire you, they have vacancy. Just tell them anyone can "fly a plane with minimal instruction. Your inputs are calculated and controlled by the computers; they correct mistakes all the time."

budaatum:
I'd also like to know, my Lord, so I can avoid them when next I fly, and see how they qualify to fly that plane in any countries airspace.

Just like you cant know which specific Nigerian govt employee from the North was quota hire and which one was a merit hire, You can start wondering at anyone frm the North same for from oil indutry locals

GracieX3:
What is this one saying? You must first be a qualified doctor to even become a resident doctor to learn to become a surgeon.

Who told you that they plan to train the best of the best?

One of the best doctors today passed the minimum in all her exams. The best student in her class is not the best surgeon but she is. Passing exams and being very good in practice are not the same. 50 percent in exams and 70 percent in exams can switch in practice. Who exactly is the best of the best?


And why must the best of the best be a white man?

To enter medical school you have to be the best of the best, then to enter surgery residency you now have to be the best of the best again. So becoming a surgeon starts from being the best in High school

The best of the best can be any color. They can all be brown they can be Asian they can be Hispanic

When you look at the best of the best at the US Dream team basketball team they are all black and no one has any complaints

The best of the best at the Maths Olympiads are all Asian American and no one complains

The best of the best at Spelling bee are mostly Indian Americans and no one complains

The best should only be the best not quota based

benalvino3:
The difference between someone unqualified and someone qualified is the certification exam. Both can fly a plane; one took his exam last week while the other is scheduled to take his next week.

A person without a pass in the certification exam is not qualified to fly a commercial airline, and no passenger carrying airline would hire a person who has not passed in the certification exam to fly their plane!

It's as illegal as driving a car without passing a driving test, and Anthony Joshua's driver who I hear did not pass a driving test and does not have a driving licence and is being prosecuted springs to mind.

Kayode has been charged with causing death by dangerous driving, reckless and negligent driving, driving without due care, and driving without a valid driver's licence.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cew8jxze027o

benalvino3:
Charlie was not racist for saying that; that's all. It is a valid criticism of the program.

Below is Charlie Kirk's statement.

If I see a Black pilot, I’m going to be like, boy, I hope he’s qualified.

– The Charlie Kirk Show, 23 January 2024

All he saw was the colour of the pilots skin, and that is racist!

In fact, do you know what racism is? Define it for me so I know you know, please.

benalvino3:
No one is making this argument. Do you guys work for a Goalpost company?

This is what Charlie said: Tell me where the racist is in his statement.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBiiQY0Rgpg

His point, my point is that if there is a program to prioritise a race, then questions like this will come up. Did they pick the best? No one is talking about unqualified pilots.

They picked the best of the best even with the inclusion requirements.

Simple and short.

benalvino3:
Yes, with fly-by-wire, anyone can fly a plane with minimal instruction. Your inputs are calculated and controlled by the computers; they correct mistakes all the time.

I said, " Anyone". Are you a pilot? If you can follow instructions, you can fly a plane

Try landing a plane with minimal instructions.

Even moving a manual gear car for the first time is difficult even with the best instructor. Gauging the release of the clutch when starting a car usually ends in a stall.

You are just talking rubbish to defend your racist daddy Kirk

benalvino3:
This train of thought is not qualified for this discussion 🤣🤣😂

Certification is the entry threshold, not proof that every qualified pilot is equally strong. If hiring is driven by a quota rather than selecting the strongest candidates within the qualified pool, then some better-qualified pilots may be passed over. You cannot argue with this point.

Some will have better records, more hours, stronger simulator performance, better judgment, better training history, better leadership, fewer incidents, better aircraft-specific experience, and stronger overall resumes. All these are factors. So if there is a program to prioritise a certain race, then it begs the question.

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THE RED BOLD JUST SHOWS THAT YOU DONT KNOW HOW THE PROCESS WORKS.

budaatum:
A person without a pass in the certification exam is not qualified to fly a commercial airline, and no passenger carrying airline would hire a person who has not passed in the certification exam to fly their plane!

It's as illegal as driving a car without passing a driving test, and Anthony Joshua's driver who I hear did not pass a driving test and does not have a driving licence and is being prosecuted springs to mind.





Below is Charlie Kirk's statement.

If I see a Black pilot, I’m going to be like, boy, I hope he’s qualified.

– The Charlie Kirk Show, 23 January 2024

All he saw was the colour of the pilots skin, and that is racist!

In fact, do you know what racism is? Define it for me so I know you know, please.

Benalvino3:

Are these not the words of Kirk?

[b]If I see a Black pilot, I’m going to be like, boy, I hope he’s qualified.

Why didn’t he say “if I see a white pilot, I’m going to be like boy, I hope he is qualified”

😀

Black people don suffer sha. Na see finish be this.

GracieX3:


Do you see your hubris and ignorance? Getting into flight school is not the problem. The criteria is not difficult. The problem is passing the courses and completing your flight hours.

You cannot be a pilot without completing your hours in flight school. No such thing as an unqualified pilot!

You have gone through so much lying just to defend a racist. So disgusting

If the criteria is not difficult, they will just pick up anyone from the street and send them to flight school

What is disgusting is your uncontrolled emotional outburst

bayelsaowei:
Benalvino3:

Are these not the words of Kirk?

[b]If I see a Black pilot, I’m going to be like, boy, I hope he’s qualified.

Why didn’t he say “if I see a white pilot, I’m going to be like boy, I hope he is qualified”

😀

Black people don suffer sha. Na see finish be this.

When you allow people to treat you like inferiors then dont be surprised if they treat you like unqualified

Let black people be given the same entry reqirement as whites simple. That is what blacks want

If you a Bayelsa man accepts lower entry into an organization, then dont act shocked when some people start to question if you should be there in the first place

bayelsaowei:
Benalvino3:

Are these not the words of Kirk?

[b]If I see a Black pilot, I’m going to be like, boy, I hope he’s qualified.

Why didn’t he say “if I see a white pilot, I’m going to be like boy, I hope he is qualified”

😀

Black people don suffer sha. Na see finish be this.

Word's without context is what you want to use? You have seen the full context but you want to ignore it. Na your style.

raumdeuter:
The best of the best can be any color. They can all be brown they can be Asian they can be Hispanic

When you look at the best of the best at the US Dream team basketball team they are all black and no one has any complaints

The best of the best at the Maths Olympiads are all Asian American and no one complains

The best of the best at Spelling bee are mostly Indian Americans and no one complains

The best should only be the best not quota based

Quota comes in where there in an imbalance.

But that is not the discussion. The question is not the best of the best, rather the question of being qualified.

Charlie Kirk specially question the qualification of the hypothetical black pilot.

How does he know by seeing a black pilot only, the black pilot is not qualified or even the best of the best?

Benalvino3 and Raumdeuter,

Maybe one thing you guys dont understand is that there are sufficient numbers of the best of the best in all races.

GracieX3:
Try landing a plane with minimal instructions.

Even moving a manual gear car for the first time is difficult even with the best instructor. Gauging the release of the clutch when starting a car usually ends in a stall.

You are just talking rubbish to defend your racist daddy Kirk

Very serious rubbish oo. Fantastic rubbish.

😀😀

budaatum:
You do? We should play sometime!

https://m.gameknot.com/stats.pl?budaatum

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We should try.

benalvino3:
Word's without context is what you want to use? You have seen the full context but you want to ignore it. Na your style.

Which context.

Why should it be about a black man in the first place?

Abeg comot jare.

raumdeuter:
If the criteria is not difficult, they will just pick up anyone from the street and send them to flight school

What is disgusting is your uncontrolled emotional outburst

Even from high school, one can join flight school.

You clearly didn't know that.

You can't escape. Please try again, how is a pilot unqualified?

raumdeuter:
Just like you cant know which specific Nigerian govt employee from the North was quota hire and which one was a merit hire, You can start wondering at anyone frm the North same for from oil indutry locals

Sorry Raum, but I am far too intelligent to be wondering such nonsense since I know that the Northerner must still qualify to do the job they are hired to do especially where commercial airline flying is concerned.

UK, for one, would not let your unqualified pilot from anywhere fly a plane over London and land at Heathrow or Gatwick, so your airline better plan to stick to Lagos-Abuja or Kano route, until they crash the plane and no one flies in your unqualified pilot airline ever again.

GracieX3:
Quota comes in where there in an imbalance.

But that is not the discussion. The question is not the best of the best, rather the question of being qualified.

Charlie Kirk specially question the qualification of the hypothetical black pilot.

How does he know by seeing a black pilot only, the black pilot is not qualified or even the best of the best?

What causes the imbalance? For example why is thre a racial imbalance in the US track and field team?

Should we mandate that the US Olympics track team puts up equal white, Asian, Indian Hispanic even when Black are way better at track?

bayelsaowei:
Which context.

Why should it be about a black man in the first place?

Abeg comot jare.

Because he is addressing United Airlines' push to prioritise women and people of color.
Why are you being disingenuous?

why are you ignoring the YouTube video i showed you?

DeepSight:
Benalvino3 and Ramdeuter,

Maybe one thing you guys dont understand is that there are sufficient numbers of the best of the best in all races.

How many of the best of the best of all races are entering NBA, Should we mandate that we have equal number of Chinese American on the NBA teams

bayelsaowei:
Which context.
Why should it be about a black man in the first place?
Abeg comot jare.

Its about anyone who enjoys a quota system, If Bayelsa people were admitted to Shell based on quota, then why will you be shocked if Everyone with a Bayelsa name is treated as inferior at Shell even the one who got a first class from a Unilag

DeepSight:
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THE RED BOLD JUST SHOWS THAT YOU DONT KNOW HOW THE PROCESS WORKS.

So Charlie and I does not know how the process works, you know this?