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GloriousGbola:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War#:~:text=The%20war%20exacted%20an%20enormous,58%2C220%20US%20service%20members%20died.

You are confusing brief moments of shock and awe with a final victory

Brief moment of shock and awe is their entire leadership gone. Where they are able to pick any leader they want and kill while on the other side Iran is not able to touch anyone that matters

It got so desperate for Iran that they are now using a cardboard effigy to represent their leader while promoting rumors of Netanyahu death which gullible people like Nateevs swallowed with glee

raumdeuter:
Brief moment of shock and awe is their entire leadership gone. Where they are able to pick any leader they want and kill while on the other side Iran is not able to touch anyone that matters

It got so desperate for Iran that they are now using a cardboard effigy to represent their leader while promoting rumors of Netanyahu death which gullible people like Nateevs swallowed with glee

As in it took two weeks for these nuts to come to that realization that big Yahu - my favourite name for Netanyahu , is still alive! And when it finally sank in, many of them could not believe what their own brain was telling them, that the man is alive. Can you believe that?

nateevs:
That's why I told him that his capacity for analysis is extremely deficient. I have posited this over several posts.
For the clear-eyed, you can see the premise of the discussions, but like Trump and MAGA dog-sh1t, they are only interested in scores and never actually long-term cause, effects, and consequences.

Only an extremely ignorant person will expect a side at war not to suffer any loss. Its no surprise if you just started following international politics or war. Did the US not suffer loses in Iraq, Afghanistan Kosovo? Which war has the US not lost meb or planes but the gullible ignorant like you will be celebrating scratches while Iran's bones is being broken

Compare this to what Russia a nuclear power is suffering in Ukraine and you will realize the US is almost unscathed

Someone is able to kill your leader on first day of war even waited to take pictures confirming it, wipe out your top military brass at will then you are celebrating shooting down airplanes.

Ho back to name calling Trump like a 9yr old with tourette. That is the sum total of your international politics knowledge

LordReed:
Yes so it gets to bail out another European nation, what's new? Why are you against it this time? Because your daddy Trump is against it? Can you name one thing you disagree with Trump on or everything is just fine and dandy?

The EU since then have been acting like parasites, they even had to be forced to pay their own share of defence to NATO, they expect Daddy Trump to always bail them out

Next week the NATO commander is coming to beg for more money like a child stranded in school coming home to Daddy

raumdeuter:
The EU since then have been acting like parasites, they even had to be forced to pay their own share of defence to NATO, they expect Daddy Trump to always bail them out

Next week the NATO commander is coming to beg for more money like a child stranded in school coming home to Daddy

They will rather spend all that money on more boat-load of free loaders from enemy territories. They will bring them in, house them, give them their daughters, feed them and lick their arse. But when it comes to defence spending, they will run to America.

DeepSight:
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With everything that has happened you can still say Iran is bombing randomly?

Joker. Ol boy that was last year, they have learnt fast, nothing like random in this one.

This is from yahoo news that they are bombing Israeli apartments
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/iranian-cluster-bomb-hits-apartment-231320421.html

They are bombing hotels in Dubai Qatar even threatening the Burj and tourist places

https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/iran-attacks-rock-dubais-palm-burj-al-arab-airport/article70690535.ece

That is thw sign of desperation. Do you think US or Israel do not know how to do random bombing of civilian places and if they decide to go that route how many bodies will we be talking about today

raumdeuter:
The EU since then have been acting like parasites, they even had to be forced to pay their own share of defence to NATO, they expect Daddy Trump to always bail them out

Next week the NATO commander is coming to beg for more money like a child stranded in school coming home to Daddy

Well you don't have problem with it except when daddy Trump has a problem.

So can you name something you disagree with Trump on?

raumdeuter:
This is from yahoo news that they are bombing Israeli apartments
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/iranian-cluster-bomb-hits-apartment-231320421.html

They are bombing hotels in Dubai Qatar even threatening the Burj and tourist places

https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/iran-attacks-rock-dubais-palm-burj-al-arab-airport/article70690535.ece

That is thw sign of desperation. Do you think US or Israel do not know how to do random bombing of civilian places and if they decide to go that route how many bodies will we be talking about today

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There is nothing random. They have been doing it for tat bombings for example.

It's clear Russian and China are helping with locations, information and intelligence.

ono:
They don't understand what's playing out.

The reality is that the longer term gain in having a TAMED Iran (and with a possible end game of having a Iran that is friendly, not a bully to their neighbours, open to trade, not oppressive to their own people - many of whom they have killed and subjugated, etc etc) is far far greater than the transient economic pains we are suffering right now. The world should be thanking Israel and the Americans for what they're doing right now - but will they?

The Ayatoilet regime in Iran are the sponsors of the terror machines we have the world over - from Hamas, Houthi rebels, Hezbollah, ISIS, Boko Haram, etc etc. Just a few days ago, emboldened Islamic terrorists slaughtered some 40 peaceful church goers in Jos, in broad day light and dared anyone to come after them

Should we submit to demonic elements like these? Is this what we all want to continue to live with everywhere in the world?

1. You have no guarantee that Iran can be tamed. A regime can always be replaced by a radical one.

2. The Iraq war had economic ramifications for almost a decade. You are now here talking about short term economic losses when we know that this Iran war can cause problems for years to come.

3. The biggest exporter of terrorism, in terms of USA, is Saudi. The 9 eleven guys.

4. Both liberals and conservatives are against this war. But like a Trump cultist, you are still defending a useless war.

LordReed:
Well you don't have problem with it except when daddy Trump has a problem.

So can you name something you disagree with Trump on?

Any American will have a problem with US being taken advantage of by Europeans.

I disagree with Trump calling Robert Mueller names after his death

DeepSight:
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There is nothing random. They have been doing it for tat bombings for example.

It's clear Russian and China are helping with locations, information and intelligence.

What is tit for tat here? They are taking out Iranian leadership while Israel and US leadership are walking around

Abi Chinese and Russians no get their locations ni na hotel and apartment location dem get

LordReed:
Are you are a kindergartener that I need to repeat answers to the same question for you to grasp it?

You came here acting like a prof but could not answer the question of a kindergartener.

All you know is to argue things you have no clue of. Now you know you are cornered you Don run.

bemeruca:
You came here acting like a prof but could not answer the question of a kindergartener.

All you know is to argue things you have no clue of. Now you know you are cornered you Don run.

Cornered by a rat? You have to be dreaming. LoLz.

raumdeuter:
What is tit for tat here? They are taking out Iranian leadership while Israel and US leadership are walking around

Abi Chinese and Russians no get their locations ni na hotel and apartment location dem get

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Why are you always so one dimensional. There have been several tit for tat attacks very precise. That's a fact.

All the American bases they have attacked are random abi. Stop being silly.

GracieX3:
1. You have no guarantee that Iran can be tamed. A regime can always be replaced by a radical one.

2. The Iraq war had economic ramifications for almost a decade. You are now here talking about short term economic losses when we know that this Iran war can cause problems for years to come.

3. The biggest exporter of terrorism, in terms of USA, is Saudi. The 9 eleven guys.

4. Both liberals and conservatives are against this war. But like a Trump cultist, you are still defending a useless war.

1. Since there is no guarantee for anything in this world why take any action? Why take out Hitler or Milosevic when no one knew if worse people will follow them

2. We dont know the future thats why we should do anything to stop a country that chants death to Ammerica from getting nuclear weapons

3. Saudi did not harbor 9-11 guys rather it was Afghanistan who hid them and provided them cover. Saudi has been an ally of the US for years. A reliable one

4. Liberals and conservatives are against Iran a country that has hurt Americans in the past and promised/swore the death of Americans having nuclear weapons while also propping up proxies to do so

DeepSight:
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Why are you always so one dimensional. There have been several tit for tat attacks very precise. That's a fact.

All the American bases they have attacked are random abi. Stop being silly.

Where is the tit for tat in the leadership taking out. Rather its apartment and hotels

raumdeuter:
Any American will have a problem with US being taken advantage of by Europeans.

I disagree with Trump calling Robert Mueller names after his death

WW1 and WW2 were not Europe taking advantage of the US? Why?

Oh really. Ok what of policy wise, anything?

LordReed:
Cornered by a rat? You have to be dreaming. LoLz.

Isn't it a shame that you were cornered by a rat 😂

A rat cornered you, ain't that a beeeeech? 🤣

LordReed:
WW1 and WW2 were not Europe taking advantage of the US? Why?

Oh really. Ok what of policy wise, anything?

Why talk about things you don't know.

How? What alliance does the US have with Europe then. This guy sef 😂

GracieX3:
1. You have no guarantee that Iran can be tamed. A regime can always be replaced by a radical one.

Things can swing whichever way, but we have a precedent in Venezuela. The place is open now. Businesses are pouring in. People are going back to Caracas. There is hope. Drug lords crushed. There is peace and joy and love!

GracieX3:
2. The Iraq war had economic ramifications for almost a decade. You are now here talking about short term economic losses when we know that this Iran war can cause problems for years to come.

Yes. But the place is gradually taking shape. I have one in-law who works with Royal Dutch Shell - takes off from Dubai daily to work in one of their oil fields in there, close to Basrah. Iraq is prospering, despite the initial set back. Our problems with the likes of you is this inability to see good in anything Trump does. You all stand (as if una no dey shit o!) to condemn this guy - all the time.

Imagine a Strait of Hormuz governed, not by the Ayatoilets, but rational thinking individuals with the best of interests for the world. Think of all the possibilities we can get with huge wealth in Iran used for the benefits of their own people - and by extension, the world. We have some hardened criminals in Tehran. They need to be tamed or eliminated. It won't be easy to do this - we appreciate that, but we also know that the alternative if we stop now will be far worse!

GracieX3:
3. The biggest exporter of terrorism, in terms of USA, is Saudi. The 9 eleven guys.

Oh well, times have changed. Iran is now the numero uno - and they need to be tamed, NOW!

GracieX3:
4. Both liberals and conservatives are against this war. But like a Trump cultist, you are still defending a useless war.

We see possibilities - opportunities and hope, where you lot think there is none or will never be any.

bemeruca:
Isn't it a shame that you were cornered by a rat 😂

A rat cornered you, ain't that a beeeeech? 🤣

You're having a hallucination. Wake TF up. LoLz.

Iran is able to block the straits of Hormuz even ragtag Somali pirates and Houthi rebels have blocked the Suez canal

So because of the straits of Hormuz an enemy nation dedicated to eradicating you should get weapons

I dont get the logic

Those Venezuelan drug boats that Democrats defended here what happened to them since Maduro left

bemeruca:
Why talk about things you don't know.

How? What alliance does the US have with Europe then. This guy sef 😂

Sit TF down I wasn't talking to you. Your senses are too fried for this conversation.

LordReed:
You're having a hallucination. Wake TF up. LoLz.

This hallucination level is the level you can handle. No need to wake, you are having a hard time keeping up.

LordReed:
WW1 and WW2 were not Europe taking advantage of the US? Why?

Oh really. Ok what of policy wise, anything?

The US and EU established UN and Nato post WW2 that was when they had formal agreement which we now saw that Europe only wanted to be parasitic about it

Why will anyone have to convince Europe to pay their NATO security dues

raumdeuter:
Where is the tit for tat in the leadership taking out. Rather its apartment and hotels

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No it's not just apartments and hotels. You are being dishonest.

In terms of retaliation, Iran has conducted the following strikes:

​Regional Base Attacks: Iran launched multiple missile waves against U.S. military bases across the Middle East, specifically targeting facilities in Bahrain, Kuwait, Qatar, and the UAE.
​Coalition Infrastructure: Strikes were conducted against UK bases in Cyprus and Arab states that host U.S. forces.

​Economic Retaliation: * Strait of Hormuz: Iran effectively shut down the strait, halting global shipping.

​Energy Sites: Targeted oil and gas facilities in Saudi Arabia and a water desalination plant in Kuwait.

​Direct Combat (April 2026):

​April 3, 2026: Iranian state media claimed the downing of two U.S. aircraft, including an A-10 Thunderbolt II near the Strait of Hormuz, during ongoing U.S. strikes on Iranian infrastructure.

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Information culled.

LordReed:
Sit TF down I wasn't talking to you. Your senses are too fried for this conversation.

Nobody took advantage of anybody in WW1 and 2. You must be educated 😂

DeepSight:
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No it's not just apartments and hotels. You are being dishonest.
retaliation, Iran has conducted the following strikes:
​Regional Base Attacks: Iran launched multiple missile waves against U.S. military bases across the Middle East, specifically targeting facilities in Bahrain, Kuwait, Qatar, and the UAE.
​Coalition Infrastructure: Strikes were conducted against UK bases in Cyprus and Arab states that host U.S. forces.

​Economic Retaliation: * Strait of Hormuz: Iran effectively shut down the strait, halting global shipping.

​Energy Sites: Targeted oil and gas facilities in Saudi Arabia and a water desalination plant in Kuwait.

​Direct Combat (April 2026):

​April 3, 2026: Iranian state media claimed the downing of two U.S. aircraft, including an A-10 Thunderbolt II near the Strait of Hormuz, during ongoing U.S. strikes on Iranian infrastructure.

When will Iran do tit for tat with their political and military leaders?

bemeruca:
Nobody took advantage of anybody in WW1 and 2. You must be educated 😂

They are not very educated about internationalpolitics and history. Most of them only started following politics because of Trump hate. Thats why some are surprised that in a war Iran was able to gun down US jets. Something Somalia was able to do 30yrs ago

raumdeuter:
The US and EU established UN and Nato post WW2 that was when they had formal agreement which we now saw that Europe only wanted to be parasitic about it

Why will anyone have to convince Europe to pay their NATO security dues

This doesn't answer my question. WW1 and WW2 are pre UN and NATO so how does talking about those answer my question?

raumdeuter:
They are not very educated about internationalpolitics and history. Most of them only started following politics because of Trump hate. Thats why some are surprised that in a war Iran was able to gun down US jets. Something Somalia was able to do 30yrs ago

Can you imagine how fast they are to type something?

After 1600 sorties, they managed to shoot one and then another on a rescue mission. That's impressive for a country that has Iranian, Russian, and Chinese tech.

But these Americans usually get comfortable as well. That's why I said they need to learn from Israel.