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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 1:33pm On Apr 04
bemeruca:
Nobody took advantage of anybody in WW1 and 2. You must be educated 😂
Your bandwidth is too low. Upgrade your sense.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m): 1:38pm On Apr 04
raumdeuter:
They are not very educated about international politics and history. Most of them only started following politics because of Trump hate. Thats why some are surprised that in a war Iran was able to gun down US jets. Something Somalia was able to do 30yrs ago
Great point!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 1:40pm On Apr 04
raumdeuter:
When will Iran do tit for tat with their political and military leaders?
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Obviously they don't have that capacity.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 1:40pm On Apr 04
LordReed:
Your bandwidth is too low. Upgrade your sense.
You can't keep up with low bandwidth you are asking for more.

How is the security council = the US?
Know you effed up you said the US is part of it.

Well, Russia is part of it too. So should Ukraine seek Russian intervention too?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m): 1:44pm On Apr 04
DeepSight:
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Obviously they don't have that capacity.
Deep, really?? grin I laugh in Farsi!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 1:49pm On Apr 04
LordReed:
This doesn't answer my question. WW1 and WW2 are pre UN and NATO so how does talking about those answer my question?
If you know history and logic you will see how odd your question sounds

Its like a friend betrayed you jn 2025 and you redefined your relationship going forward. You are now asking why did you help him at the beginning of your relationship when he hasn't shown the betrayal
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 1:51pm On Apr 04
DeepSight:
Cococandy, Ijebos, nateevs, budaatum, obrigardo, basilico, benalvino3, GracieX3, LordReed -

Pls listen to this clip. Its just a few seconds.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/yhkGy9f_vcM
This is why maga is one stupid nonsensical experiment.
The most foolish movement i've ever seen in my entire life.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 1:51pm On Apr 04
bemeruca:
Can you imagine how fast they are to type something?
After 1600 sorties, they managed to shoot one and then another on a rescue mission. That's impressive for a country that has Iranian, Russian, and Chinese tech.
But these Americans usually get comfortable as well. That's why I said they need to learn from Israel.
You start wondering how they think if they do

Even Ijaw militants will be able to take some down out of 1600 over 6 weeks

Like Anthony Joshua fought Jake Paul and celebrating because Jake landed 3 punches after collecting 200
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 1:52pm On Apr 04
raumdeuter:
If you know history and logic you will see how odd your question sounds

Its like a friend betrayed you jn 2025 and you redefined your relationship going forward. You are now asking why did you help him at the beginning of your relationship when he hasn't shown the betrayal
Rather is like you saying I helped you when a bully was beating you the first 2 times but I won't help you the 3rd time just because. You can't explain why the 3rd bully is different.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 1:53pm On Apr 04
So you guys are complaining the democrats are keeping you poor and all that but still vote for them.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 1:54pm On Apr 04
bemeruca:
You can't keep up with low bandwidth you are asking for more.

How is the security council = the US?
Know you effed up you said the US is part of it.

Well, Russia is part of it too. So should Ukraine seek Russian intervention too?
I would have recommended you read the document but the 1 remaining geriatric cell might collapse.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GloriousGbola: 1:55pm On Apr 04
raumdeuter:
Brief moment of shock and awe is their entire leadership gone. Where they are able to pick any leader they want and kill while on the other side Iran is not able to touch anyone that matters

It got so desperate for Iran that they are now using a cardboard effigy to represent their leader while promoting rumors of Netanyahu death which gullible people like Nateevs swallowed with glee
A contingency the IRGC have been planning for.

The US decapitated Iran's leadership 3 weeks ago and have since lost control of the Strait of Hormuz and are committed to putting American boots on the ground and are decapitating their own military leadership in the middle of a special military operation.

Americans are now moving their troops to hotels and American military infrastructure is being destroyed by a supposedly incapacitated enemy.

Shock and awe is an overstatement. This was just a firework show that achieved nothing.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 1:57pm On Apr 04
LordReed:
I would have recommended you read the document but the 1 remaining geriatric cell might collapse.
Oga, the document you posted here is proof that you did not read it, I did.

Stop making noise. You got nothing, you can't answer that question because you don't know what you have been saying.

Discuss Fulani matters, you might do better on that topic
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 1:58pm On Apr 04
Don jr and eric, sons of the child sexual predator are cashing in on drones that are actively killing people

But you'll never hear it from the demented idiotic maga people who railed against Hunter Biden.

Set of foolish clowns.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 1:59pm On Apr 04
DeepSight:
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Obviously they don't have that capacity.
So with all the monies they have made all these years, na to sponsor terrorist dem get capacity for

If its to hand Hamas or Hezbollah bombs to blow up bus they have capacity for that

But someone comes take out your leader even took confirmation pictures like IG GRWM and you are looking and doing what MEND and ISWAP will do
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 2:01pm On Apr 04
ono:
Deep, really?? grin I laugh in Farsi!
Me sef laugh

One thing about deepsight is that is a little more honest that the average liberal here

BTW he refused to answer some questions I posed to him yesterday about being a liberal vs being a conservative
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 2:01pm On Apr 04
Nigerians no get where them never marry from ❤️😂😂

I am sure one Nneka don marry one Ayatollah for Iran before

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 2:06pm On Apr 04
Oh my goodness! I've arrived at multiple locations before but this makes me so proud!
I love Thomas Massie even though he's more right wing than some kooks
We are on the right track! The world is healing!

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 2:06pm On Apr 04
LordReed:
Rather is like you saying I helped you when a bully was beating you the first 2 times but I won't help you the 3rd time just because. You can't explain why the 3rd bully is different.
Just because you have proven to be a leech who was taking advantage of the relationship and not paying your fair share that was agreed upon
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m): 2:09pm On Apr 04
GloriousGbola:
A contingency the IRGC have been planning for.

The US decapitated Iran's leadership 3 weeks ago and have since lost control of the Strait of Hormuz and are committed to putting American boots on the ground and are decapitating their own military leadership in the middle of a special military operation.

Americans are now moving their troops to hotels and American military infrastructure is being destroyed by a supposedly incapacitated enemy.

Shock and awe is an overstatement. This was just a firework show that achieved nothing.
Just to chip in that the US was NEVER in control of the Strait. Get your facts right and stop deceiving the gullible ones in here.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 2:12pm On Apr 04
raumdeuter:
Me sef laugh

One thing about deepsight is that is a little more honest that the average liberal here

BTW he refused to answer some questions I posed to him yesterday about being a liberal vs being a conservative
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Pls send me the link again so I don't have to search long.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 2:12pm On Apr 04
DeepSight:
Cococandy, Ijebos, nateevs, budaatum, obrigardo, basilico, benalvino3, GracieX3, LordReed -

Pls listen to this clip. Its just a few seconds.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/yhkGy9f_vcM
In a weird funny sense he can actually be right, since Native Americans are not "birth right citizens", but citizens, period.

But he of course has to go think about it so he does not shoot his own foot.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 2:15pm On Apr 04
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 2:17pm On Apr 04
budaatum:
In a weird funny sense he can actually be right, since Native Americans are not "birth right citizens", but citizens, period.

But he of course has to go think about it so he does not shoot his own foot.
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That's the thing!

But that it's a subject at all is telling!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 2:18pm On Apr 04
DeepSight:
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That's the thing!

But that it's a subject at all is telling!
It is not a subject at all. That's the thing
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 2:26pm On Apr 04
GloriousGbola:
A contingency the IRGC have been planning for.

The US decapitated Iran's leadership 3 weeks ago and have since lost control of the Strait of Hormuz and are committed to putting American boots on the ground and are decapitating their own military leadership in the middle of a special military operation.

Americans are now moving their troops to hotels and American military infrastructure is being destroyed by a supposedly incapacitated enemy.

Shock and awe is an overstatement. This was just a firework show that achieved nothing.
Every family company or nation has contingencies planned for when leaders die but that wont stop them from preventing it. Iran did their best to prevent theirs by limiting public appearances but they were still powerless to stop the killing of their leaders like Xmas chicken

There was a Friday they came out among civilians thinking the US will kill them with civilians only for the man to be killed days later

The Strait of Hormuz control was never in US hands and its not a big deal closing it. It doesnt take any military competence to do it Somali pirates close Suez canal regularly even ragtag Houthi rebels. Any MEND level organization can close a natrow Strait . Mend sef with Henry Okah, Tompolo Boyloaf dem were able to disrupt shopping in the Bight of Bonny that's without state support or extensive budget

Its a desperate sign of losing that the state of Iran is celebrating what any regular group of thugs have done and can do

They are breaking your bones, your eye socket your teeth and you are celebrating that you scratched him
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GloriousGbola: 2:29pm On Apr 04
ono:
Just to chip in that the US was NEVER in control of the Strait. Get your facts right and stop deceiving the gullible ones in here.
Three weeks ago, ships were sailing through the Strait without any challenge.

Today that is not the case.

And the trump you worship has washed his hands of the mess he created.

I understand that cause and effect may be too much for you to comprehend so I suggest you go back to bragging about how the US has won this special military operation.

This is clearly beyond your bandwidth.

There is a reason I don't bother with you and the tripe you post.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m): 2:33pm On Apr 04
raumdeuter:
Every family company or nation has contingencies planned for when leaders die but that wont stop them from preventing it. Iran did their best to prevent theirs by limiting public appearances but they were still powerless to stop the killing of their leaders like Xmas chicken

There was a Friday they came out among civilians thinking the US will kill them with civilians only for the man to be killed days later

The Strait of Hormuz control was never in US hands and its not a big deal closing it. It doesnt take any military competence to do it Somali pirates close Suez canal regularly even ragtag Houthi rebels. Any MEND level organization can close a natrow Strait . Mend sef with Henry Okah, Tompolo Boyloaf dem were able to disrupt shopping in the Bight of Bonny that's without state support or extensive budget

Its a desperate sign of losing that the state of Iran is celebrating what any regular group of thugs have done and can do

They are breaking your bones, your eye socket your teeth and you are celebrating that you scratched him
Beautifully crafted response.

Watch the link below bro!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Fq0m3krtiM?si=U-pKhJHNvAwUte3F


This should clarify things for ALL.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m):
raumdeuter:
1. Immigration - What exactly do you agree or disagree on with immigration? Does a country have the right to limit the amount or type of people that come into their country? Is it okay if 20m, or 200m immigrant enter the country. Is it okay to allow people whose ideology are opposite the country and actually hate it?
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Of course every country has not only the right but also the duty to watch its borders carefully. And as per the bold, I have said several times that Europe should be careful about the extent to which it absorbs Islam. Because the liberties hard won by Europe through centuries of bloodshed will be lost in a heartbeat in the day that Europe has a Muslim majority.

However the issue about immigration I personally have vis-a-vis MAGA is the simple reality that Trump has made it clear that he only wants white immigrants. America is a nation of immigrants, this is indubitable. It should not adopt a racist approach to immigration. I know you will deny there is a racist approach in Trump's approach but there is. That is why he will tell lies about white genocide in SA and seek to remove Haitians who came there legally slurring them with eating pets for example. Aside from this he has openly said he will prefer white immigrants from Nordic countries.

2. What is the white nationalism policy under Trump? Give examples
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I said white Christian Nationalism, and its real.

I extract -

Gemini said
Recent reports and studies from early 2026 highlight a significant trend in the intersection of religious and political identity in the United States. Analysts and civil rights organizations have documented what they describe as an increasingly visible alignment between "White Christian Nationalism" and the current political landscape.

Below are key resources and summaries of recent findings:

1. The PRRI 2026 Report
The Public Religion Research Institute (PRRI) released a major study on March 31, 2026, titled "New Report Sheds Light on the Growing Threat of Christian Nationalism."

Key Finding: Nearly one-third of Americans now qualify as Christian nationalist "adherents" or "sympathizers," an increase since 2022.

Regional Concentration: Support is highest in the South and Midwest, with states like Arkansas, Mississippi, and West Virginia showing support rates exceeding 50%.

Link to Policy: The report notes a strong correlation between these views and support for policies such as ending birthright citizenship and the "Great Replacement Theory."

Source: Interfaith Alliance Analysis of PRRI 2026 Report

2. Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) Dispatches
The SPLC’s Intelligence Project has been tracking the "Hard Right" throughout early 2026, documenting how religious rhetoric is used to frame political goals.

March 2026 Dispatch: Highlights the use of "biblical" justification for government policies and the framing of political opponents as "the Godless left."

February 2026 Dispatch: Documents incidents such as anti-immigrant protests where organizers declared "America is a Christian country" to galvanize support and fundraising.

Source: SPLC March 2026 Intelligence Report

3. "Project 2025" and Beyond
Academic and journalistic reviews from late 2025 and 2026 have analyzed the long-term impact of Project 2025, a blueprint designed to infuse federal governance with Christian nationalist principles.

The Goal: Critics argue the initiative seeks to "suffuse Christian nationalism across the entire federal government," dismantling diversity efforts and centering "traditionalist social hierarchies."

Impact on Democracy: Research suggests these ideologies often view religious diversity as a "hindrance to national unity."

Source: Kettering Foundation: How Christian Nationalism Weakens Democracy

4. Scholarly Analysis of "American Christian Nationalism" (ACN)
The Journal of Futures Studies published a comprehensive analysis in January 2026 regarding the ascent of ACN as a systematized form of religious nationalism.

Dominionism: The study identifies "charismatic dominionism" as a key strand that seeks to subordinate society to specific interpretations of biblical law.

Militant Iconography: Recent reporting also points to the rise of "militant masculinity" within this movement, viewing political struggles as "cosmic battles."

Source: American Christian Nationalism - Journal of Futures Studies


3. What exactly is Trumps policy on abortion? Or what has Trump in the last one year done about abortion. Give specifics
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You asked me what I agree with the left on, not what I disagree with Trump on. I agree with the general position of the left that women must have the right to decide on matters to do with their bodies. Furthermore, i wholly support abortion in cases of rape or abuse in unusual scenarios - e.g: a girl is impregnated by her father. There are many other legitimate scenarios. However let me just say that personally, from a spiritual point of view, I am not really comfortable with abortions beyond the first trimester except for medical reasons such as the life of the mother being at stake. This is because there is a thin line when one must begin to consider that the growing foetus has started becoming human.

4. What right of women have been taken away in the past 16months under Trump, Mention specifics
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Again, you are talking about Trump when the question was what I agree with the left on. The left is far more open to women's rights and women's empowerment. As I said the other day, it is not an accident that the Dems are the ones who have provided two female candidates for president and one female vice president.

5. DEI. I have explained what DEI does in the past 3 days. Why should there be DEI policies, when you should only seek out the best of the best regardless of race, sex, religion
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I explained exhaustively my position on DEI and Affirmative Action here -

https://www.nairaland.com/4508641/american-politics-thread-trump-47th/5855

6. CRT. What is CRT and what value does it add to the society that is should be a govt policy
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Critical Race Theory which the right and Trumpists ignorantly rail against is an academic theory about the economic impact of racism over long periods right from slavery to Jim Crowe to Segregation etc.

7. Trump has a Gay man in his cabinet. Scott Bessent is Gay and no one cares. Trump officially recognize 2 genders and Trans cannot serve in the military. Also Trump signed that you cannot project it to minors nor transition them. Which of these are you against
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I have told you that LGBTQ issues are the only area where I find some agreement with Trump and where I think he has taken a rational position.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m): 2:38pm On Apr 04
GloriousGbola:
Three weeks ago, ships were sailing through the Strait without any challenge.

Today that is not the case.

And the trump you worship has washed his hands of the mess he created.

I understand that cause and effect may be too much for you to comprehend so I suggest you go back to bragging about how the US has won this special military operation.

This is clearly beyond your bandwidth.

There is a reason I don't bother with you and the tripe you post.
Why are you lot fond of shape-shifting and love to always live in denial when faced with facts? In stead of accepting you are wrong - like gentleman DeepSight will do, you resort to casting aspersions like that obstinate budaatum whom I have left to the good Lord to show His power and might for she has lost her mind and ways. You even write like her (I don't give a rat arse if she thinks she's a he-she at anytime of the day).

All the thrash you wrote up there are irrelevant to the subject of the control of the Strait, but because you are so full of your useless self, you think what you wrote amount to something useful.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GloriousGbola: 2:39pm On Apr 04
raumdeuter:
Every family company or nation has contingencies planned for when leaders die but that wont stop them from preventing it. Iran did their best to prevent theirs by limiting public appearances but they were still powerless to stop the killing of their leaders like Xmas chicken

There was a Friday they came out among civilians thinking the US will kill them with civilians only for the man to be killed days later

The Strait of Hormuz control was never in US hands and its not a big deal closing it. It doesnt take any military competence to do it Somali pirates close Suez canal regularly even ragtag Houthi rebels. Any MEND level organization can close a natrow Strait . Mend sef with Henry Okah, Tompolo Boyloaf dem were able to disrupt shopping in the Bight of Bonny that's without state support or extensive budget

Its a desperate sign of losing that the state of Iran is celebrating what any regular group of thugs have done and can do

They are breaking your bones, your eye socket your teeth and you are celebrating that you scratched him
A simple Google search will show you why for the past 20 years wider heads chose not to engage in military action against Iran

Even bush at the height of 911 noise did not make that mistake

But your cult leader and his drunken clown hyped up on military hardware and delusions of grandeur thought they could pull a Venezuela and take over Iran in a single treacherous attack during negotiations

I posted the statistics of Vietnam. Where a US with superior firepower lost despite vietnam losing far more civilians and soldiers


Right now it is looking like a parallel conflict. No one can say exactly what the military goal of attacking Iran was.

The best we can say is Iran has been 'technically defeated'. Which is why the US is now sending 10,000 to 15,000 marines to finish the already finished job

Unfortunately you and trump think that all you need to win a war is to be bigger than you opponent.

Every hour your cult leader makes a different claim over this special military operation . But I guess you will say that is 4d chess

Until your leaders Ill advised and foolish attack on Iran, the Strait of Hormuz was open for operation. Now it is closed and your mighty leader has been posturing for the past two weeks

You break it you won it.

As a member of the party of personal responsibility that should not be complicated.
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