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Re: World Should Pay Attention To Falana’s APC "One-party State" Claim - Tibor Nagy by Mrexcell(m): 7:45am On Apr 08
reddingtonblack:
I hope you've not assume you are intelligent ... Have you checked labour party and you did not see leadership crisis

peter obi has 6million, buh remember he is 3rd cos someone was 2nd, lets assume labour party no get leadership crisis Peter Obi stay wont still getting him to win ..apparently he needs a coalition, he needs to build bridges and work with others if he wan to raise his votes

Sticking to the obedient base is not enough, if you were intelligent you would have learn from Buhari road to presidency ..he failed how many times until coalition, intelligent people will know that one tree cant make a forest
The person you are quoting doesn't even know he is the one that's politically unintelligent expecting obi to repeat the same thing he did in 2023 in 2027 again is complete foolishness. No politician has ever won any presidential election in nigeria without solid national political structures and aligning himself with other politicians in other regions buhari and tinibu are good examples.
Re: World Should Pay Attention To Falana’s APC "One-party State" Claim - Tibor Nagy by 9jatriot(m): 8:03am On Apr 08
Non be Tinubu again. In a few weeks time, this same Tibor will be praising Tinubu after Tinubu go don explain the real situation of things to am.
Re: World Should Pay Attention To Falana’s APC "One-party State" Claim - Tibor Nagy by Skullminers1: 8:17am On Apr 08
simpleseyi:
Cry well well. China is a one party state, yet it has become world’s economic powerhouse
Hahaha so this has been you people's plan all along when organization of strange bed fellow like Ebola Tinimgbu,late Buhari and others deceived myopic Nigerians that they are coming to better Nigeria if they succeed to take it from PDP and Goodluck Jonathan ehhh.
I hope native Nigerians that thought you people meant well for Nigeria can't finally wake up and see whom you people truly are which I warned them then
Re: World Should Pay Attention To Falana’s APC "One-party State" Claim - Tibor Nagy by Druss(m): 8:20am On Apr 08
SixSeven:
Tinubu is a democrat, a true man of his words. 😅👇

June 12, 2013 by The Nation

PDP, Jonathan have failed Nigerians, says Tinubu

ACN leader lashes govt on economy, security
President Goodluck Jonathan’s administration is confused about how to tackle Nigeria’s challenges, especially poverty and insecurity, a leader of the newly-formed All Progressives Congress (APC), Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu, has said.

He said the Federal Government promised peace and security, but under its “unwatchful eye” insecurity has grown and Boko Haram “has turned large tracts of northern Nigeria into no man’s land”.


But, a bright future, he said, is on the horizon as the APC, which he called “the government in-waiting”, would rescue Nigeria from its confused state.


“As leaders of the new party and government in-waiting, we intend to pursue dynamic, time-tested and bold policies that will liberate our people by making sure our wealth works for us,” Tinubu said.

Nigerians, said Tinubu, have become increasingly divided as a people because the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) government continues to take faulty steps in addressing poverty and injustice.

“They have ignored the cause and gone after the symptoms,” the former Lagos State Governor told a packed audience inside the Grand Committee Ballroom, Westminster Hall, House of Parliament, London on Monday. He identified failed policies on power, employment, economy and security as evidence of bad leadership.


Tinubu, the keynote speaker at the British African Diaspora Conference, spoke on “Leadership, national development and the people”.

He urged the Federal Government to apply a consistent policy of targeted law enforcement operations along with an active programme of economic development, negotiations and potential amnesty for penitent Boko Haram members.

He said rather than take this step, the nation has been treated to series of government inaction and indiscriminate use of force, which culminated in the declaration of a state of emergency in three states.


“The Jonathan government set up a special Committee on Boko Haram and Security matters, but sadly before they could perform, he declared State of Emergency in three Northern states: Yobe, Borno and Adamawa.

“This is symptomatic of a confused leadership. If there is security in this jumbled policy, neither I nor the majority of Nigerians can find it!”

To the fomer Lagos governor, if Nigeria is to mature as a democracy, its electoral system must be improved. He decried the fact that those who control the system manipulate elections with such impunity that they now see misconduct without sanction as a normal way of life.


Said he: “Look at the recent controversy surrounding election of the Nigerian Governors Forum (NGF) chairman… A group comprising all the nations’ governors could not even conduct a simple 35-person election without a disputed outcome.

“With this recent experience, I fear the length those in power would go and the means they would employ to manipulate results when the battleground is the entire nation and the stakes are the general elections in 2015.

“The NGF debacle symbolises a disdain for democracy and the popular will. If we are to save Nigeria, we must rescue the electoral process from its abusers,” Tinubu said.

In his view, a great philosophical gulf separates the government from the progressives. “This current Nigerian government is a retrogressive one. Much of what they claim as growth is but the harsh redistribution of wealth from the bottom to the top. The bottom gets squeezed while the top expands. They are serving us the salad of corruption.

“They consume our today and squander the nation’s tomorrow. For 14 years, the PDP-led government cannot turn anything around. A new leadership is required to put a stop to this.”

Tinubu criticised Nigeria’s economic policies, saying the economy is being reconstructed “as an oasis for a small few and a stark desert for the many” while the government pretends to endorse the same budget-cutting austerity policies as much of Europe.

“We are not Europe; we are a Third World economy. That these policies have failed in European nations with higher standards of living than Nigeria gives our leaders no concern.”

Tinubu said the people live in dire straits, yet the government would rather waste the money than spend it on public benefit because they do not believe the people deserve it.

He said the progressives would bring pragmatic solution to the country’s woes because in their approach to the political economy, they do not rely on textbook answers as they do not “live in textbooks.

He said: “We live in the real world and thus seek answers from real world experiences. Here is a real world fact: No large nation has ever attained sustained growth without government running budget deficits to build the required infrastructure and without other government policies promoting development of the key industries that would become the spine of national development.

“Here is another such fact: No populous nation ever attains prosperity solely by extracting its raw material to exchange them for the finished goods of other large nations. We must industrialise and diversify our economy

“It is for this reason – to save the nation from the stranglehold of permanent poverty and poor governance – that the members of the progressive opposition political parties have decided to put aside personal ambition (including my own ambition) to form a new party, the All Progressives Congress (APC). We do this because Nigeria has entered a critical state of economic depression.”

According to Tinubu, because of the unfair nature of the electoral processes and the gross imbalance of its political economy, the people have been props in a drama for which they should have been the main characters. “We must change this,” he said.

He said the progressives must move Nigeria away from a place where the whims and narrow wishes of self-centered reactionary elite dictate the fate of over 150 million people.

“On our side, we will take our chances with a free and fair election, for we shall offer the people an innovative programme consisting of a national industrial policy that includes radical infrastructural development and employment targets,” he said.

The former Lagos governor spoke of “the Glorious Nigerian Revolution”, which he said has nothing to do with force of arms.

His words: “The Revolution of which I speak has two major parts. First, is the peaceful conversion of our quasi-democracy into a full-fledged one. Second, is the implementation of policies turning the political economy away from its retrogressive, elitist bearings.

“We seek policies pointing in a progressive direction affording the average person a chance at a dignified life. This will be through the provision of gainful employment, quality education and essential social services for those who need the helping hand of government to survive.

“I see no shame in believing progressive government can improve the political economy and the lives of the people.”
What is his scorecard on the above?
Re: World Should Pay Attention To Falana’s APC "One-party State" Claim - Tibor Nagy by Wande22(m): 8:29am On Apr 08
Dshocker:
When PDP was in power, they respected the rule of law, and gave every other political party the opportunity to operate freely, without interference.

APC is busy destroying political party opposition, through the help of Inec and the judiciary, while fueling chaos through funding to cause internal crisis in another party.
You and your wife are having arguments in the house over soup money and you are accusing your next door neighbour (who is also a man) of stealing your wife's attention and instigating her against you

as how nowhuh
Re: World Should Pay Attention To Falana’s APC "One-party State" Claim - Tibor Nagy by reddingtonblack: 8:40am On Apr 08
koladata:
Let me educate you, Apc didn't fall from heaven fully formed, presidency and party takes time to build and with the power and momentum obi had in labor, he could win lots of state government elections and start forming big structure like APC did till they won the first presidency in 2015 from the Almighty pdp.

Fine they are having issues in labor party, if you can't settle party issue as the most respected in the party then how will you settle a complex Nigeria issue

What obi lack is patience, tinubu paid his dues by waiting that long, if it could take another 12 years, that's fine and that's the reality we've found ourselves in, but wait if you have to wait... Better late than never

You are talking about coalition... with who?.... Obi won't even come close to second in the primaries of adc because he doesn't give shi shi , which is fine but to what end has the coalition helped his political career. Pdp obviously won't give him ticket because the wicked Wike has one goal in Pdp and it's to ensure the party doesn't produce a credible candidate to compete with Tinubu, ofcourse APC won't, ADC also won't give him ticket because Atiku gives more than shi shi , he gives dollar...., so why won't any intelligent person stay where he is valued and build it.

I know you will reply me with abusing my family like you nairaland guys always do, but you can't change the fact just because you want to be happy
OGA dont sweat !! Please go and get a proper education on what is called " enabling environment"

in 2013, Tinubu met El rufai, atiku formed a vibrant opposition, yes we agree they built and were strategic BUT all that endeavour paid off cos Jobathan was democratic enough

Uncle the best of coalition, strategy and support will go down the drain in a paul Biya world were state institutions and the judiciary are captured

I retietrate The beautiful APC coailition in 2015 thrived becos Jonathan allowed " enabling environment". Opoosition wete free to incite the people, stage protests and slander the presidency without intimidation and harass
If Tinubu was the president in 2015, i swear APC wont have seen the light of day ... NO matter the strategy in a Paul biya world it will look like opposition no try nii ... " enabling environment" is key to whether opposition will thrive or not

Learn and rest
Re: World Should Pay Attention To Falana’s APC "One-party State" Claim - Tibor Nagy by Obilikom: 8:43am On Apr 08
simpleseyi:
Cry well well. China is a one party state, yet it has become world’s economic powerhouse
5 years ago this thought never crossed your mind.

All in your mind then was Sai baba 4+4

Now a cocaine man wanted to turn a multi cultural county into a one party state , and then you remember china .

Another of your party man might win someday and decided all first born male should be killed,of course again as a crumb feeder what do you do than to echo it

Or probably tell people how first born were killed in the bible... We know your type
Re: World Should Pay Attention To Falana’s APC "One-party State" Claim - Tibor Nagy by 9jatriot(m): 8:49am On Apr 08
You guys try to rewrite history. Can we forget Mary Ogah the DSS official who practically became PDP spokes woman? Or how GEJ went and desstroyed the data centre of APC or how they tried unsuccessfully to block the registration of APC?

APC went through hell in the hands of GEJ... This same El Rufai was prevented from monitoring the election in Anambra, which Obi won, and Obi even told El Rufia he was not welcomed in Anambra State

Or is it the Osun and Ekiti election where APC members were not allowed to move around.

Make una suffry de lie
reddingtonblack:
OGA dont sweat !! Please go and get a proper education on what is called " enabling environment"

in 2013, Tinubu met El rufai, atiku formed a vibrant opposition, yes we agree they built and were strategic BUT all that endeavour paid off cos Jobathan was democratic enough

Uncle the best of coalition, strategy and support will go down the drain in a paul Biya world were state institutions and the judiciary are captured

I retietrate The beautiful APC coailition in 2015 thrived becos Jonathan allowed " enabling environment". Opoosition wete free to incite the people, stage protests and slander the presidency without intimidation and harass
If Tinubu was the president in 2015, i swear APC wont have seen the light of day ... NO matter the strategy in a Paul biya world it will look like opposition no try nii ... " enabling environment" is key to whether opposition will thrive or not

Learn and rest
Re: World Should Pay Attention To Falana’s APC "One-party State" Claim - Tibor Nagy by Dshocker(m): 9:03am On Apr 08
Wande22:
You and your wife are having arguments in the house over soup money and you are accusing your next door neighbour (who is also a man) of stealing your wife's attention and instigating her against you

as how nowhuh
Getat
Re: World Should Pay Attention To Falana’s APC "One-party State" Claim - Tibor Nagy by PHIPEX(m): 9:21am On Apr 08
simpleseyi:
Cry well well. China is a one party state, yet it has become world’s economic powerhouse
China also kills corrupt politicians and supporter. You and your kinds would not have been existing today if you go China route
Re: World Should Pay Attention To Falana’s APC "One-party State" Claim - Tibor Nagy by reddingtonblack: 10:07am On Apr 08
[quote author=9jatriot post=139030853]
You guys try to rewrite history. Can we forget Mary Ogah the DSS official who practically became PDP spokes woman? Or how GEJ went and desstroyed the data centre of APC or how they tried unsuccessfully to block the registration of APC?
What you trying so hard to alleged, no make sense cos We cant remember anytime opposition alleged one party rule under GEJ
In 2015, please remind us how many opposition had leadership crisis in court ... Buhari made inciteful statement blood will flow ...was he arrested or detained
You feel you know better, bring evidence of what Jonathan did truncate APC with inec or judiciary

APC went through hell in the hands of GEJ... This same El Rufai was prevented from monitoring the election in Anambra, which Obi won, and Obi even told El Rufia he was not welcomed in Anambra State
Please shutup your mouth, Do you think you are talking to babies here, is APC that saw shege in the hands of jonathan or otherway round
the ojota protest, occupy Nigeria, Labour union protest, amplified noise over chibok gurls and foreign countries refusing to sell weapons to Nigeria ..who saw shege if not Jonathan, so where exactly is APC a victim in an election that favoured them .. are you okay

Or is it the Osun and Ekiti election where APC members were not allowed to move around.
Make una suffry de lie
Yes ! I remember EKitigate, buh regardless the winner of that election currently works and serve Tinubu your boss today ..what should we make of that

What is Tinubu's antecedence, i tell people there is nuttin magical about Tinubu politics, all this " strategist" noise .. Look into it proper its all crookedness, bypass the system, cheat the system, subvert the wishes of the people that summary of Tinubu strategy
Tinubu leverage above other politician is that he has zero% conscience, obj, Gej, Buhari all those one stil carry conscience they get limit But Tinubu who wan die please die fast nii ..he must have his way
Re: World Should Pay Attention To Falana’s APC "One-party State" Claim - Tibor Nagy by 9jatriot(m): 10:20am On Apr 08
When we tell people una non too get seense they think we are just hating.
All the examples I gave are all in public domain, so if you were too young then, do a search on nairaland or Google, you will find references.

Ojota protest was in 2011, APC was formed around 2013/14, somehow they went back in time to protest. 2011 protest was from ordinary Nigerians who felt betrayed that GEJ increased the price of fuel in January of all months. Adam Oshomole, who incidentally was an ACN governor was one of those who supported the price increase, people were even calling him betrayal then.

But this is not about fuel increase, we are talking about the wrong claim that GEJ was so much of a democrate that he did nothing to try to stop APC.

I also remember how they try to stop a certain news paper from selling because of a story they carried.


[quote author=reddingtonblack post=139032016][/quote]
You guys try to rewrite history. Can we forget Mary Ogah the DSS official who practically became PDP spokes woman? Or how GEJ went and desstroyed the data centre of APC or how they tried unsuccessfully to block the registration of APC?
What you trying so hard to alleged, no make sense cos We cant remember anytime opposition alleged one party rule under GEJ
In 2015, please remind us how many opposition had leadership crisis in court ... Buhari made inciteful statement blood will flow ...was he arrested or detained
You feel you know better, bring evidence of what Jonathan did truncate APC with inec or judiciary

APC went through hell in the hands of GEJ... This same El Rufai was prevented from monitoring the election in Anambra, which Obi won, and Obi even told El Rufia he was not welcomed in Anambra State
Please shutup your mouth, Do you think you are talking to babies here, is APC that saw shege in the hands of jonathan or otherway round
the ojota protest, occupy Nigeria, Labour union protest, amplified noise over chibok gurls and foreign countries refusing to sell weapons to Nigeria ..who saw shege if not Jonathan, so where exactly is APC a victim in an election that favoured them .. are you okay

Or is it the Osun and Ekiti election where APC members were not allowed to move around.
Make una suffry de lie
Yes ! I remember EKitigate, buh regardless the winner of that election currently works and serve Tinubu your boss today ..what should we make of that

What is Tinubu's antecedence, i tell people there is nuttin magical about Tinubu politics, all this " strategist" noise .. Look into it proper its all crookedness, bypass the system, cheat the system, subvert the wishes of the people that summary of Tinubu strategy
Tinubu leverage above other politician is that he has zero% conscience, obj, Gej, Buhari all those one stil carry conscience they get limit But Tinubu who wan die please die fast nii ..he must have his way
Re: World Should Pay Attention To Falana’s APC "One-party State" Claim - Tibor Nagy by Justnation: 10:44am On Apr 08
tinubu is playing with fire and he wants to set NIGERIA on the part of war for his selfish ambition.
The US and and international community must rise up and stop him before things get out of hand.
Nigeria is not a banana Republic, Nigeria is not Lagos.
A stitch in time saves nine
Re: World Should Pay Attention To Falana’s APC "One-party State" Claim - Tibor Nagy by Mrtaye: 11:52am On Apr 08
simpleseyi:
Cry well well. China is a one party state, yet it has become world’s economic powerhouse
China is a dictatorship.....Nigeria is a "Democracy"
Re: World Should Pay Attention To Falana’s APC "One-party State" Claim - Tibor Nagy by alanto: 12:07pm On Apr 08
9jatriot:
You guys try to rewrite history. Can we forget Mary Ogah the DSS official who practically became PDP spokes woman? Or how GEJ went and desstroyed the data centre of APC or how they tried unsuccessfully to block the registration of APC?

APC went through hell in the hands of GEJ... This same El Rufai was prevented from monitoring the election in Anambra, which Obi won, and Obi even told El Rufia he was not welcomed in Anambra State

Or is it the Osun and Ekiti election where APC members were not allowed to move around.

Make una suffry de lie
Fayose didn't allow Tinubu move in Ekiti because of one particular election.
They like history to only favour them.
Re: World Should Pay Attention To Falana’s APC "One-party State" Claim - Tibor Nagy by Kalulu44: 12:44pm On Apr 08
simpleseyi:
Cry well well. China is a one party state, yet it has become world’s economic powerhouse
Are we like China now?
Re: World Should Pay Attention To Falana’s APC "One-party State" Claim - Tibor Nagy by koladata(m): 2:03pm On Apr 08
When Tinubu went to form a vibrant opposition in 2013 as you claimed, did he leave his party to join another party?

It's very hard for nairaland people to accept they are wrong even when it's obvious.... I said Peter Obi made the worse political decision in the history of human by leaving a party that gave him 6million vote to fight for primary in a new party that nobody knows where he can't even win primaries.

reddingtonblack:
OGA dont sweat !! Please go and get a proper education on what is called " enabling environment"

in 2013, Tinubu met El rufai, atiku formed a vibrant opposition, yes we agree they built and were strategic BUT all that endeavour paid off cos Jobathan was democratic enough

Uncle the best of coalition, strategy and support will go down the drain in a paul Biya world were state institutions and the judiciary are captured

I retietrate The beautiful APC coailition in 2015 thrived becos Jonathan allowed " enabling environment". Opoosition wete free to incite the people, stage protests and slander the presidency without intimidation and harass
If Tinubu was the president in 2015, i swear APC wont have seen the light of day ... NO matter the strategy in a Paul biya world it will look like opposition no try nii ... " enabling environment" is key to whether opposition will thrive or not

Learn and rest
Re: World Should Pay Attention To Falana’s APC "One-party State" Claim - Tibor Nagy by chrisukeka(m): 2:17pm On Apr 08
China 🇨🇳 has also not claimed to be a democratic nation.

Keeping reasoning with the left side of your brain


simpleseyi:
Cry well well. China is a one party state, yet it has become world’s economic powerhouse
Re: World Should Pay Attention To Falana’s APC "One-party State" Claim - Tibor Nagy by reddingtonblack: 2:25pm On Apr 08
koladata:
When Tinubu went to form a vibrant opposition in 2013 as you claimed, did he leave his party to join another party?

It's very hard for nairaland people to accept they are wrong even when it's obvious.... I said Peter Obi made the worse political decision in the history of human by leaving a party that gave him 6million vote to fight for primary in a new party that nobody knows where he can't even win primaries.
Tinubu is Tinubu, Tinubu is not the standard of how politics must be or run

What works for Tinubu might not work for obi, thats is the mystery of Life, that said
Tinubu did not leave his party But at the same time Tinubu solicited a coalition and he opened up for political weight like Saraki and Tambuwal to come in, as smooth as all sound

Tinubu survived opposition cos the ruling part were more democrat.

With what Tinubu did in Rivers, it just dawn on me Obasanjo could have snatched lagos heavens wont fall like Wike and Tinubu normally say

Those ones just have small conscience nii
Re: World Should Pay Attention To Falana’s APC "One-party State" Claim - Tibor Nagy by koladata(m): 2:49pm On Apr 08
Okay I appreciate your explanation. So please kindly explain the game plan to me now that he has left labor party to form coalition with Atiku and Rotimi Amechi.

Is the plan for them to give him free ticket in ADC ?

Or to contest primary election with Atiku, Elrufai , Amechi ?

If he loss what next ? Go back to labor party or form another new party ?

Please explain. Just my questions. I want to learn

reddingtonblack:
Tinubu is Tinubu, Tinubu is not the standard of how politics must be or run

What works for Tinubu might not work for obi, thats is the mystery of Life, that said
Tinubu did not leave his party But at the same time Tinubu solicited a coalition and he opened up for political weight like Saraki and Tambuwal to come in, as smooth as all sound

Tinubu survived opposition cos the ruling part were more democrat.

With what Tinubu did in Rivers, it just dawn on me Obasanjo could have snatched lagos heavens wont fall like Wike and Tinubu normally say

Those ones just have small conscience nii
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