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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Stolen: 2:03pm On Apr 08
cococandy:
Any how you try to analyze this ceasefire, it amounts to a massive victory for Iran. It wasn’t going to end any other way. They weathered the illegal attacks, the threats of nuclear genocide, and emerged on the other side more victorious. A huge embarrassment to the American people placed on us by our president

To point out the obvious here, Obama accomplished far more than Trump all without a bloodshed. Obama didn't blow up a school full of little girls, commit mass war crimes against the Iranian people, or cause the deaths of American soldiers in a war of aggression.

Only one of these men understands the art of the deal and he never wrote a book about it.

You guy’s self hate and need to capitulate to a racist old white man is the reason why Obama will forever be your enemy because he’s shown you that don’t have to be a yessa guy and you don’t know how to handle that.
OBAMA DESTROYED LIBYA


SYRIA IS WAR FUNDED BY OBAMA


IF U WANT TO MENTION HUMAN, OBAMA IS NOT THERE?


BIDEN UKRAINE WAR DROVE RUSSIA FHINA AND IRAN INTO BED WITH INDIA AND SOUTH AFRICA PLAYING MAID
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 2:16pm On Apr 08
I don’t engage in useless back and forth conversations with conservatives especially not retrograde whataboutism about Joebama O’Biden.

When you guys have to face the fact that your maniac is dancing nayked in the market place, you resort to whataboutism.

Keep sitting in the corner or you finna get blocked again

Stolen:
OBAMA DESTROYED LIBYA


SYRIA IS WAR FUNDED BY OBAMA


IF U WANT TO MENTION HUMAN, OBAMA IS NOT THERE?


BIDEN UKRAINE WAR DROVE RUSSIA FHINA AND IRAN INTO BED WITH INDIA AND SOUTH AFRICA PLAYING MAID
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Stolen: 2:34pm On Apr 08
WELL THE SEIZE FIRE WONT STOP IF FIGHTERS ARE YET TO BE REACHED



GIVE IT AT LEAST 1 WEEK FOR THE CEASEFIRE NEW TO REACH FIGHTERS EVERYWHERE

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 2:48pm On Apr 08
Stolen:
JUSTICE AND MERCY WORK TOGETHER



NOW THE REAL QUESTION IS HOW LONG DOES THE CEASE FIRE HOLD 🔥




IF UKRAINR AND RUSSIA IS ANYTHING TO GO BY THEN BEFORE TOMOROOW HOSTILITY MAY START



TRUMP NEED TO KNOW WEN TO WALK AWAY FROM THIS WAR




THIS IS GOOD NEWS
If anything goes, they are taking new targets and preparing other actions. Israel did this with Hamas. Cease fire like this let them move stuff freely while they watch.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 2:49pm On Apr 08
Many observers and critics have long expressed concerns regarding the former president’s mode of operation and his utterances - warnings they feel have been largely overlooked by his blind and dedicated supporters.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 3:00pm On Apr 08
Ramos entered the US illegally in 2005 and was issued a final removal order after failing to appear at an immigration hearing. She was about 22 months old at the time.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c98kn1k3nreo
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Stolen: 3:05pm On Apr 08
benalvino3:
If anything goes, they are taking new targets and preparing other actions. Israel did this with Hamas. Cease fire like this let them move stuff freely while they watch.
YOUR RIGHT, SEE BREAKING NEWS


EVEN TRUMP NEED RELOAD UKRAINE DEPLETED ARMS STOCKS

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 3:07pm On Apr 08
The familiar alchemy of imperial innocence: commit the crime, profit from the crime, ensure the compensation of slave owners when the crime ends, then seek moral credit for moderating the system you helped to create. It is a politics of historical laundering.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2026/apr/08/slave-trade-uk-eu-ghana-un-resolution-slavery
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca:
bayelsaowei:
What is fake news na.

The point I am trying to drive is the kind of folks who are previous or present associates of Trump. 😀. They have a knack for molesting young children.

Also that the Republican Party as it is today won’t mind having this kind of man with his antecedent holding public office. 😀

Because presently the whole Republican Party is fully supporting a pdf as their lord and personal savior.

This thing wey I talk go pain you well well.

😂😂
Nothing they pain me, if you have selective outrage, the problem is you because you don't really care about these things.

So your fingers points back to you. Child sexual abuse is horrific regardless of the politics of who is doing it, church, or connections. Using it primarily as a cudgel against one party while neglecting is hypocrisy.

Parents wey no want their children to think say e dey okay to dey have sex with uncles, teachers, or anybody dem call those parents domestic terrorists under the Biden administration. Many of them face harassment from the FBI after the NSBA letter. Na so dem take treat concerned parents.

Morris served on Trump's 2016 evangelical advisory board.

Morris had no formal role in Trump's 2024 campaign or current administration.

After the 2024 allegations became public, Trump's team distanced themselves.

There is no evidence the Republican Party as an institution, or its leadership, is supporting Morris or wants him in public office.

The case was prosecuted in Oklahoma (under a Republican AG, but as a standard state criminal matter).
This is nothing but hyperbolic smears from you as usual.

Imagine sending your children to school and they bring gay men dressed as women to dance and read them stories. That's what you should focus on.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 3:25pm On Apr 08
budaatum:
The familiar alchemy of imperial innocence: commit the crime, profit from the crime, ensure the compensation of slave owners when the crime ends, then seek moral credit for moderating the system you helped to create. It is a politics of historical laundering.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2026/apr/08/slave-trade-uk-eu-ghana-un-resolution-slavery
Nobody today should pay a dime to people who never suffered slavery. Forget about it, you don't even deserve an apology from people living today. Get used to it.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 3:29pm On Apr 08
bayelsaowei:
Many observers and critics have long expressed concerns regarding the former president’s mode of operation and his utterances - warnings they feel have been largely overlooked by his blind and dedicated supporters.
So where were they when Biden was chitting his pants on stage?

Where was the observers when Biden was hallucinating on stage? They were all saying he is sharper than he has ever been.

Who even takes them seriously?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by TV01(m): 3:40pm On Apr 08
DeepSight:
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Character is as smoke and shows in every breath, another shallow offering.
...says one whose primary contribution is "nuisance value" . grin
I am not chanced at the mo', but when l am, I'll be backto trigger another tantrum from you cheesy.


TV
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 3:42pm On Apr 08
TV01:
...says one whose primary contribution is "nuisance value" . grin
I am not chanced at the mo', but when l am, I'll be backto trigger another tantrum from you cheesy.


TV
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How dare you address me in such a manner, will you collapse into a posture of prostration at once before my great humbiliscence!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Stolen: 3:47pm On Apr 08
STOP IS NECESSARY

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 3:47pm On Apr 08
Bayelsaowei, this man is talking to you on how the care for humanity works

You seem to be on the side of people who don't care for humanity.

It is why Oct 7th happened, it is why you are seeing this Iran war, it is why there were so much casualties in Gaza and for some reason the people who want people to die left and right and the side you are empathetic to.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 3:48pm On Apr 08
Stolen:
STOP IS NECESSARY
Why these extreme posts. Why do you think Trump will ever use a nuke?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 3:51pm On Apr 08
benalvino3:
All the Pakistani jew 8ters the UK imported, it is Kanye west antisemitism that seem to be the problem.
Our problem is any 8ters from anywhere of anyone who does not keep their hatred inside their own head and decides to spew it on our streets, ben. And the people that we democratically elected to represent what we want on our streets have said, "no ye on UK streets". It's after all not like you've seen us on our streets yelling, "O Ye', or have you?

Please look again and this time see that we don't care if you are from Pakistani or from Mars. Keep your 8tering off our streets!

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 3:57pm On Apr 08
budaatum:
Our problem is any 8ters from anywhere of anyone who does not keep their hatred inside their own head and decides to spew it on our streets, ben. And the people that we democratically elected to represent what we want on our streets have said, "no ye on UK streets". It's after all not like you've seen us on our streets yelling, "O Ye', or have you?

Please look again and this time see that we don't care if you are from Pakistani or from Mars. Keep your 8tering off our streets!
Kanye is there to perform his music, not rant on Jews or make political statements.

Your government import those who 8s Jews, spew hate, carry terrorists flags and pay them to live in the UK.

I don't like Kanye but they should get their priorities straight. They won't even deport convicted rapists.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 4:00pm On Apr 08
Liberals, Iran killed at least 30k people she never said a word, but some how a tweet is more extreme.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 4:03pm On Apr 08
bemeruca:
Nobody today should pay a dime to people who never suffered slavery.
If a person's great great great great great grand parents suffered slavery, that person has suffered slavery, ben, as has the existing family that person's great great great great great grand parents was taken and sold from.

But I don't expect you to understand that it's not all about money, ben. A DEI proposal could be knowledge transfer. Like, manufacture ICE Fords in Ghana henceforth, since we don't have enough electric.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca:
budaatum:
If a person's great great great great great grand parents suffered slavery, that person has suffered slavery, ben, as has the existing family that person's great great great great great grand parents was taken and sold from.

But I don't expect you to understand that it's not all about money, ben. A DEI proposal could be knowledge transfer. Like, manufacture ICE Fords in Ghana henceforth, since we don't have enough electric.
This your logic will be rejected by even a lice.
By your logic, all of us suffered from slavery so who pays who? Even the white men you love to accuse, their gggggggrrrrrrreat grand parents suffered from slavery.

I understand, and what you just post is nonsense and if I disagree it's because I don't understand. Look at you 😂😂😂😂

Again, suffering isn't genetically inherited like that. If it were, we would owe reparations to virtually every ethnic group on this planet. From descendants of Roman slaves, Mongol conquest victims, Arab slave trade survivors, intra-African war captives, Irish indentured servants, etc. Trauma can echo culturally and psychologically across generations, but turning that into perpetual national debt claims is a political construct, not consostent moral principle.

So you want to force a company into Ghana because of historical grievance?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 4:41pm On Apr 08
bemeruca:
This your logic will be rejected by even a lice.
By your logic, all of us suffered from slavery so who pays who?
No one pays anyone. It's not about the money.

bemeruca:
Again, suffering isn't genetically inherited like that.
I really wish you'd say this when you argue that current day Israelis can claim genetically inherited land.

bemeruca:
So you want to force a company into Ghana because of historical grievance?
Not because of historical grievance, ben. But because of my current grievance today.

I want my Ghana people to stop going to work as slaves in Ford USA today, and instead work in Ford in their own homeland where they are free, and where they can spend their own money in their own communities where I can tax them to improve schools and fix roads. So yes, I will force them with like 100% tariff on imported Fords. It's just a pity Ghanaians prefer Toyotas though. Their makers didn't enslave Ghanaians so no forcing them and none is required per se, though they should also consider Toyota Ghana because it's on my desk somewhere.

I need to create jobs for my Ghanaians, ben, so I'm putting Ghana First on this.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by TV01(m): 4:48pm On Apr 08
LordReed:
Strong defense of culture is not a hallmark of greatness IMO. The ability to push culture in positive directions is what makes any people group great.
I didn't say a strong defense of culture was a hallmark of greatness. And, l didnt list iit in the main part of my response - there are rubbish cultures and practices that are strongly defended.

My point was that, having attained to greatness - even if only relative - the ability to maintain and defend those things that enabled and delivered said greatness is important.

I noted that with particular reference to the West, which is currently under attack from within and without, due to a failure to do just that.

What does "push culture in a positive direction" mean? How does that happen in any given settling, given that in both relative and absolute terms what would be positive varies widely. I noted the defence of rubbish cultures and practices earlier.


TV
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 4:57pm On Apr 08
budaatum:
No one pays anyone. It's not about the money.
If it's truly not about the money, why does the Ghana UN resolution urge states to contribute to reparatory justice mechanisms and a reparations fund?

budaatum:
I really wish you'd say this when you argue that current day Israelis can claim genetically inherited land.

Not because of historical grievance, ben. But because of my current grievance today.
Israeli claims to land rest on continuous historical, cultural, and legal ties not a demand that unrelated foreigners today pay perpetual compensation or relocate industries based on distant ancestry. Why are you even making this argument?


budaatum:
I want my Ghana people to stop going to work as slaves in Ford USA today, and instead work in Ford in their own homeland where they are free, and where they can spend their own money in their own communities where I can tax them to improve schools and fix roads. So yes, I will force them with like 100% tariff on imported Fords. It's just a pity Ghanaians prefer Toyotas though. Their makers didn't enslave Ghanaians so no forcing them and none is required per se, though they should also consider Toyota Ghana because it's on my desk somewhere.
Ghanaians working at Ford in the US or anywhere are voluntary employees earning market wages not slaves. Free yourself from this mentality.

budaatum:
I need to create jobs for my Ghanaians, ben, so I'm putting Ghana First on this.
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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 4:59pm On Apr 08
bemeruca:
Kanye is there to perform his music, not rant on Jews or make political statements.
Ben, Kanye is not "there" for anything whatsoever.

Government refused him access to our streets after sponsors pulled out and we refused to buy tickets to go watch him do anything at all.

Being sincere with you, the reason is because we do not have enough ben like reasoning individuals to make such an event viable on UK streets. You'd pancake your face in poo if you tell most people here you are going to spend your money to buy tickets to go and watch Ye. Or Tommy.

But why are you not happy that we are protecting the Jews from hatred on our streets just like we protect the Muslims from hatred on our streets? Do you just want hatred all over then place?

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 5:01pm On Apr 08
budaatum:
Ben, Kanye is not "there" for anything whatsoever.

Government refused him access to our streets after sponsors pulled out and we refused to buy tickets to go watch him do anything at all.

Being sincere with you, the reason is because we do not have enough ben like reasoning individuals to make such an event viable on UK streets. You'd pancake your face in poo if you tell most people here you are going to spend your money to buy tickets to go and watch Ye. Or Tommy.

But why are you not happy that we are protecting the Jews from hatred on our streets just like we protect the Muslims from hatred on our streets? Do you just want hatred all over then place?
Sponsor pulled out because the government won't give him permission to enter not the other way around.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 5:04pm On Apr 08
bemeruca:
Ghanaians working at Ford in the US or anywhere are voluntary employees earning market wages not slaves. Free yourself from this mentality.
I want those "Ford in the US or anywhere" jobs to be in Ghana if Ford wants to sell Ford in Ghana.

Because, if I, the Democratically elected government of Ghana can not tax my Ghanaians they are someone's slaves!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 5:09pm On Apr 08
bemeruca:
Sponsor pulled out because the government won't give him permission to enter not the other way around.
It actually is the other way round. The people complained, so the sponsors pulled out and then government banned him from our streets.

You just need to check to know it is instead of making stuff up to justify faulty reasoning.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 5:14pm On Apr 08
bemeruca:
They won't even deport convicted rapists.
Won't they, ben?

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 5:22pm On Apr 08
bemeruca:
If it's truly not about the money, why does the Ghana UN resolution urge states to contribute to reparatory justice mechanisms and a reparations fund?
Can you already see that "reparatory justice mechanisms" is not money, or do you need to self educate yourself further why there's a mechanism and a fund?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 5:27pm On Apr 08
bemeruca:
So where were they when Biden was chitting his pants on stage?

Where was the observers when Biden was hallucinating on stage? They were all saying he is sharper than he has ever been.

Who even takes them seriously?
We are talking about a deranged violent grifter who is threatening genöcide on a nation and you’re talking about BIDEN. How about just assessing Trump as an Individual.. must you talk about Biden?

Mstcheew!!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 5:32pm On Apr 08
bayelsaowei:
We are talking about a deranged violent grifter who is threatening genöcide on a nation and you’re talking about BIDEN. How about just assessing Trump as an Individual.. must you talk about Biden?

Mstcheew!!
Genocide a nation based on what?
A tweet you don't understand?
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