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bemeruca:
How is it a minority victory, in each state, you have to win the majority.

The states come together as a union to decide not a single state.

But tell us your alternative

DeepSight:
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There is the possibility that the person with the higher popular votes has less electoral college votes as happened for example between Hilary and Trump.

Do you think it is reasonable that one person should have three million more votes than the other candidate and still be declared the loser? That is madness.

There are alternatives to ensure a spread. Look at the Nigerian option for example. The winner must win at least twenty five percent in two thirds of the states. That ensures the winner is always a person with a national spread.

bemeruca:
Yes it is reasonable to have 3m votes and still lose. Before Trump it happened 4 times. Hillary has access to the collage as well. It is not madness, it makes perfect sense.

The US is a constitutional federal Republic not a democracy

cococandy:
Such an imbecilic post.

Thank to immigration the U.S. economy has grown substantially in absolute terms from roughly $542 billion in 1960 to over $29 trillion in 2024

In 1960 we didn't have the unrivaled tech giants, the biotech leadership, the medical innovation and what not. Immigrants prop up americas health care system and tech industry (at the minimum)

Why do these racists want to go back to an era of mediocrity so badly?

DeepSight:
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It makes nonsense of the purpose of elections. It also makes nonsense of the meaning of a democracy. But I have learnt a lot about you and your ilk, so worever.


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The US is not a democracy? Gotcha.

LordReed:
LoLz. The Quran is not a science journal either but you want us to present you inventions that came directly from Islamic study.

Anyway, thanks for conceding that no invention came from Christianity study.

TV01:
I'll afford you the benefit f the doubt this last time. Please read carefully and slowly - several times if required .

No one claimed inventions should spontaneously arise out of what ever anyone considers to be holy text.

The position is that it is the truth of the JC culture that creates the milieu as described in my last post - which has been hidden. To paraphrase below,.

"Only the JC ethos creates the sustainable culture which can deliver full-suite human rights, individual freedoms and civil liberties. Which at once guarantee individual pursuits and free association, formsng the basis for open trade, guilds and capital markets, which drive, innovation, research, scientific inquiry and technological advancement, as well as progressive social welfare programs".

Likewise your mate DeepSight continues to insist that Christianity advocates slavery, and continues to argue that against himself, when the position is the Christian scriptures do not preach slavery. Not that some people who claim to be Christians have not used the bible to justify slavery - no one ever claimed that.

Pay attention sir .


TV

DeepSight:
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I also added to my post above clarifying that expansion is actually one of the catalysts of development -


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Nonetheless I am not sure it is fair for you to use ISIS as the benchmark.
You would make no mention of the Greater Israel Project would you, notwithstanding that its map is on the uniforms of the IDF and covers parts of Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Iraq and Saudi Arabia?

DeepSight:
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Repeating yourself a thousand times will not remove the clear slavery endorsing verses from the Bible.

I don't need to shout. It's written there in black and white and nothing can remove it.

TV01:
It's called consistency boyo - try it .

The fact that slavery is mentioned, doesn't mean that slavery is endorsed. In fact the Bible is the most anti-slavery book every - the whole message is about setting human beings free.

I appreciate your need to see slavery in order too underpin your worldview. Evidenced by your refusal to answer any questions or admit your own incorrect biblical exegesis from the very first time I posted a response to this.
https://www.nairaland.com/4508641/american-politics-thread-trump-47th/5556#137573719


Come, why did the gods of your people, of iron, of thunder of smallpox, not deliver you from slavery and help you invent better gadgets .

He who The Son sets free is free indeed .


TV

TV01:
I'll afford you the benefit f the doubt this last time. Please read carefully and slowly - several times if required .

No one claimed inventions should spontaneously arise out of what ever anyone considers to be holy text.

The position is that it is the truth of the JC culture that creates the milieu as described in my last post - which has been hidden. To paraphrase below,.

"Only the JC ethos creates the sustainable culture which can deliver full-suite human rights, individual freedoms and civil liberties. Which at once guarantee individual pursuits and free association, formsng the basis for open trade, guilds and capital markets, which drive, innovation, research, scientific inquiry and technological advancement, as well as progressive social welfare programs".

Likewise your mate DeepSight continues to insist that Christianity advocates slavery, and continues to argue that against himself, when the position is the Christian scriptures do not preach slavery. Not that some people who claim to be Christians have not used the bible to justify slavery - no one ever claimed that.

Pay attention sir .


TV

DeepSight:
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The Electoral College System is not a fair system. The very fact that it holds the possibility for the party with less popular votes to win the election is an absurdity.

Just in case you missed it - this is the Deputy Chief of the Defence Staff failing to confirm that the British Army could deploy 1000 troops to the continent of Europe. pic.twitter.com/GnyvLfiJjY

— Mike Martin MP 🔸 (@ThreshedThought) April 10, 2026

DeepSight:
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I keep wondering how many of them know for example that Steve Jobs was Syrian.

LordReed:
The Japanaese did not need your Christian whatever to end slavery 500300 years before Christians had to kill themselves to achieve it. Pay attention.

DeepSight:
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Yawn.

nothing can remove it.

TV01:
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Nothing can add it .

If The Son sets you free, you are free indeed.


TV

TV01:
Christianity first moved to abolish slavery in the 11th century.

Slavery was finally abolished in Japan under Western influence as it modernised. Formally in the 19th century and fully suppressed in the 20th.

There is nothing outside the JC truth as a basis for sustained, enduring and flourishing nations. Second best is to mimic it as Japan has done - aided somewhat by it's ethnic and cultural homogeneity. Now starting to fail.

Outside that nada, nothing, nowhere - as demonstrated by Nigeria' abject failure and South Africa's spiralling backwards after one generation of emancipation from apartheid. Even the post-Christian West is starting to fall apart.

No Christ, no nation, no nothing. His kingdom come.

Keep up .


TV

TV01:
Christianity first moved to abolish slavery in the 11th century.

Slavery was finally abolished in Japan under Western influence as it modernised. Formally in the 19th century and fully suppressed in the 20th.

There is nothing outside the JC truth as a basis for sustained, enduring and flourishing nations. Second best is to mimic it as Japan has done - aided somewhat by it's ethnic and cultural homogeneity. Now starting to fail.

Outside that nada, nothing, nowhere - as demonstrated by Nigeria' abject failure and South Africa's spiralling backwards after one generation of emancipation from apartheid. Even the post-Christian West is starting to fall apart.

No Christ, no nation, no nothing. His kingdom come.

Keep up .


TV

LordReed:
First move by whom?

The Portuguese didn't want slavery to end in Japan so I dunno what you mean by Western influence.

DeepSight:
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The chap lives in an alternate universe.

He reminds me of the saying that it's better to remain silent and let people think you are a fool than to say something and confirm it.

Because I actually thought this one had something in his head before I became acquainted with his delusions.

LordReed:
TV01 is one of the better ones, unfortunately when you have to defend something as "wierd" as Christianity you are going to sound insane.

DeepSight:
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I suppose Egypt didn't flourish. Babylon didn't flourish. Assyria never flourished. Persia didn't flourish. Parthia never flourished. China never flourished. Greece never flourished. Rome didn't flourish. Aztec Empire didn't flourish.

None of these nations / empires flourished before or without Judeo Christian teachings.

Oh, I provided one hundred Inventions by cultures outside Judeo Christianity in response to your claim that no inventions exist outside Judeo Christianity. Silence on them, just the same silence as with the verses on slavery. Your satanic verses.

Brother, you should consider medical attention.

DeepSight:
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Claiming that inventions only exist in cultures with a Judeo Christian background is as bad a case as I have ever come across.

"Only the JC ethos creates the sustainable culture which can deliver full-suite human rights, individual freedoms and civil liberties. Which at once guarantee individual pursuits and free association, forming the basis for open trade and capital markets, which drive, innovation, research, scientific inquiry and technological advancement, as well as progressive social welfare programs".

DeepSight:
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Claiming that inventions only exist in cultures with a Judeo Christian background is as bad a case as I have ever come across.

TV01:
Have you no depth...is your moniker meant to be entirely ironic !

You have a very limited and ultimately futile toolkit, consisting of,
1. Copy & Paste
2. Avoiding questions
3. Strawmanning positions
4. Slurs
5. Tantrums

I see no depth, no artfully constructed points, no comprehensive analysis. I'll try again, because I like your discomfort !



It did so progressively and as long as it sticks, progress will continue. Nothing else can or has sustainably delivered all of that. At best mimic it to a degree. Where are the nations and empires you mentioned? Why are non-JC nations today mostly lagging - even to mimic .

It's why Nigeria is imploding, Somalia is war-torn and South-Africa is spiralling. The "inherency" required to inculcate the necessary ethos does not exist. Chaos and disarray is the natural state - and too be honest, you like it

ee.slam by it's very nature cannot of itself give rise to meaningful or sustainable innovation. It's contrary to it's design and intent. The golden age you speak of was history written by the victors.

I have noted repeatedly. ee,slam will claim anything in extant, in development or that lands after it conquers a people or territory. Long-term it will be degraded and ee.slam will revert to type - 7th century Arabia. The link you shared, showed that in detail. Did you read it?

The conquered Persian mathematician who forcefully converts to ee.slam will have his invention labelled ee.slam.eek, and himself a moose.slim. Labelled moose.slim does not mean natal to ee.slam. Did moose.slims settle and build Cordoba or Baghdad or Cairo?

Where are your gods .


TV

DeepSight:
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Really?

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1. The Immobility of the Earth
The most famous conflicts, such as the Galileo Affair, centered on the idea that the Earth moves. Critics used several "proofs" from the Old Testament to argue that the Earth is fixed in place.

Psalm 104:5

"He set the earth on its foundations; it can never be moved."
This was perhaps the most cited verse against Nicolaus Copernicus and Galileo Galilei. If the Bible says the Earth cannot be moved, the heliocentric theory (Earth revolving around the Sun) was viewed as a direct contradiction of divine revelation.

Psalm 93:1

"...The world is firmly established; it cannot be moved."
Similar to Psalm 104, this was used to provide a physical "fact" about the stability of the globe.

1 Chronicles 16:30

"Tremble before him, all the earth! The world is firmly established; it cannot be moved."

2. The Motion of the Sun
To the observers of the time, the Sun appeared to "rise" and "set." Scientific theories suggesting it was the Earth moving instead were countered with verses describing the Sun’s movement.

Joshua 10:12–13

"On the day the Lord gave the Amorites over to Israel, Joshua said to the Lord in the presence of Israel: 'Sun, stand still over Gibeon...' The sun stopped in the middle of the sky and delayed going down about a full day."
Martin Luther and other religious leaders famously argued that for Joshua to command the Sun to stand still, the Sun must have been the object in motion to begin with.

Ecclesiastes 1:5

"The sun rises and the sun sets, and hurries back to where it rises."
This verse was used to support the Ptolemaic system, which claimed the Sun orbited the Earth daily.

3. The Structure of the Heavens
The concept of "the firmament" was often used to push back against atmospheric or astronomical discoveries that suggested an infinite or vacuum-filled space.

Genesis 1:6–7

"And God said, 'Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.' ...God called the vault 'sky.'"
Early interpretations suggested a physical dome (the firmament) held back literal water. When astronomers began suggesting the heavens were fluid or empty space, it challenged the literalist view of a solid cosmic structure.

4. The Origin of Life and Humanity
With the publication of Charles Darwin’s On the Origin of Species in 1859, the focus shifted from physics to biology.

Genesis 1:26–27

"Then God said, 'Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness...'"
This was (and is) the primary verse used to deny Evolutionary Theory. The argument is that if humans share a common ancestor with primates, they cannot be uniquely created "in the image of God."