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LordReed:
No, banks are critical to the kind of economy we have now, they didn't always exist and economies got on just fine without them.

LordReed:
LoLz. The Quran is not a science journal either but you want us to present you inventions that came directly from Islamic study.

Anyway, thanks for conceding that no invention came from Christianity study.

basilico:
The bible does not say the earth is flat. Those are interpretation by people .Those persecuted , why didn't they use this one in defence?
Isaiah 40:22: This is the most commonly cited verse. It states that God "sits above the circle of the earth". The Hebrew word used for "circle" is chug (חוג), which can refer to a circle, vault, or horizon. Some scholars argue this describes the Earth's curvature or a sphere ical shape.

I have this Jehovah witness neighbour He frequently invites me to his church because they follow what the Bible says exactly..Stuff about the cross of crucifixion,last week he invited me for Thursday service because that's the day to commemorate before the death . I have told him outward manifestation is not important,it's your faith that's more important.

The bible is by diverse authors and doesn't claim to be the unchangeable word of the Lord. Unlike Islam ,if any Muslim remotely suggests their prophet was wrong, he faces certain death

TV01:
Have you no depth...is your moniker meant to be entirely ironic !

You have a very limited and ultimately futile toolkit, consisting of,
1. Copy & Paste
2. Avoiding questions
3. Strawmanning positions
4. Slurs
5. Tantrums

I see no depth, no artfully constructed points, no comprehensive analysis. I'll try again, because I like your discomfort !



It did so progressively and as long as it sticks, progress will continue. Nothing else can or has sustainably delivered all of that. At best mimic it to a degree. Where are the nations and empires you mentioned? Why are non-JC nations today mostly lagging - even to mimic .

It's why Nigeria is imploding, Somalia is war-torn and South-Africa is spiralling. The "inherency" required to inculcate the necessary ethos does not exist. Chaos and disarray is the natural state - and too be honest, you like it

ee.slam by it's very nature cannot of itself give rise to meaningful or sustainable innovation. It's contrary to it's design and intent. The golden age you speak of was history written by the victors.

I have noted repeatedly. ee,slam will claim anything in extant, in development or that lands after it conquers a people or territory. Long-term it will be degraded and ee.slam will revert to type - 7th century Arabia. The link you shared, showed that in detail. Did you read it?

The conquered Persian mathematician who forcefully converts to ee.slam will have his invention labelled ee.slam.eek, and himself a moose.slim. Labelled moose.slim does not mean natal to ee.slam. Did moose.slims settle and build Cordoba or Baghdad or Cairo?

Where are your gods .


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DeepSight:
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The verses I cited did not discuss the shape of the Earth so you are discussing something else. The point of those verses was to show you that there are several verses which the church used to counter and persecute scientists. You are a weak discussant.

Gloriously:
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basilico:
The bible does not say the earth is flat.
It was left to human interpretation that's my point.

Quran 18:86 is specific. The sun sets somewhere.
"Until, when he reached the setting-place of the sun, he found it (as if) setting in a spring of dark mud, and he found near it a people. We said, 'O Dhul-Qarnayn, either you punish (them) or else adopt among them (a way of) goodness.'" (Sahih International)

You cannot challenge anything in the Quran if you love your head sitting on top of the neck.

basilico:
No invention should come from scriptures directly, maybe they can get the juices of creativity flowing in an inquisitive mind.
For instance The Quran is not in chronological order,it starts with the shortest verse to the longest verse
Oga,with that you could think of inventing a modular incremental energy storage system. Start with a small capacitor, which then feeds serially into large batteries. You could sell your ESS by its physical length to fit your storage space at home. .How many inches/feet of my ESS do you want? One only needs to measure where to store the ESS ,and a suitable one is selected for him/her.
Oga ,you could call your ESS, the "Q inspired ESS". To avoid someone sizing what machete to use on your neck, you'd never let anyone know what Q means 😀😀😀

So now you see how Islam impedes innovation .

basilico:
No invention should come from scriptures directly, maybe they can get the juices of creativity flowing in an inquisitive mind.
For instance The Quran is not in chronological order,it starts with the shortest verse to the longest verse
Oga,with that you could think of inventing a modular incremental energy storage system. Start with a small capacitor, which then feeds serially into large batteries. You could sell your ESS by its physical length to fit your storage space at home. .How many inches/feet of my ESS do you want? One only needs to measure where to store the ESS ,and a suitable one is selected for him/her.
Oga ,you could call your ESS, the "Q inspired ESS". To avoid someone sizing what machete to use on your neck, you'd never let anyone know what Q means 😀😀😀

So now you see how Islam impedes innovation .

cococandy:
Kirk would’ve found a way to discredit this astronaut even though he has the most masters degrees out of all of them

basilico:
I have not verified this.
Because if it's true E Jean Carroll and the judge should be behind bars by now.

DeepSight:
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One hundred percent sure. In fact they would say all the masters degrees are DEI degrees.

cococandy:
And claim he’s not racist. Just questioning

DeepSight:
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Well, what has been established is that Trumpists dont see anything as racist, no matter how extreme it is. Its a symptom of cults. The steady eagerness to justify and dismiss even the worst things.

It might sound as though i am speaking in hyperbole when i say that i am sure some Trumpists would defend Trump even if he r a p e d their mother or daughter in their presence.

But i am not.

GloriousGbola:
This happened 🤮

DeepSight:
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Well, what has been established is that Trumpists dont see anything as racist, no matter how extreme it is. Its a symptom of cults. The steady eagerness to justify and dismiss even the worst things.

It might sound as though i am speaking in hyperbole when i say that i am sure some Trumpists would defend Trump even if he r a p e d their mother or daughter in their presence.

But i am not.

DeepSight:
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This post discloses someone who needs urgent assessment and assistance.

LordReed:
Ok show me someone who saw something in the Bible like you are saying here then invented something.

basilico:
You expect the scriptures to show you how to invent a water pump or an EFI engine. Because that's what I've been asked about bible creativity.
Stupid question, stupid answer.
It's the culture encouraged by the scriptures that will lead to innovation.
If the scriptures say the earth is flat ,you are a heretic when you start thinking about launching satellites to orbit the earth

cococandy:
I absolutely agree

He said he could shoot someone in the middle of New York’s busiest streets and wouldn’t lose their votes. Every single day, they try their hardest to prove him right

DeepSight:
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So tell me about nations and empires before and without the said scriptures. Rome, Greece, etc.

They too didn't have the necessary culture to allow inventions?

What are you smoking?

Besides, you still haven't addressed the verses I provided you with. You keep yapping about flat Earth I have never once mentioned.

Are you stable?

Obrigardo:
If you are still a Maga dunce cultists do you feel like the air is been sucked out of you
All your top maga influencers have bailed on the tyrant child sexual predator
Even the UFC safe haven was just too cold for him
X has closed the maga grifting loophole, even libsoftiktok and domlucre are crying - mama come save me

I told you guys last 2 years maga is dead, we are just dancing on the coffin right now.

basilico:
About the Bible verses ,I rightly pointed out that was human misinterpretation,not a divine revelation.

Ancient cultures you mentioned had a spiritual culture too that guided their day to day . Hammurabi had an eye for eye punishment.
Egyptians worshiped the sun god and built huge pyramids? Some of those cultures had good things that enabled innovation and creativity and they also had evil things that would land anyone in jail if they was practiced today. Their treatment of conquered subjects was horrible.
Some Africans used to leave their sick in forests to be eaten by hyenas.
Indians used to bury the rulers with their wives as someone pointed out here a few days ago.
The JC is more superior to other cultures, if you care to admit that.

The Islamic culture during those golden ages was exactly like ISIS, Taliban and Al Shabab.

basilico:
Trump Gets a Warrior's Thanks at UFC 327

Miami went wild Saturday night as President Donald Trump sat ringside for UFC 327. After a brutal light heavyweight war, winner Paulo Costa leaped out of the octagon, made a beeline for Trump, and shook his hand like a true champion.

"Thank you for doing what you're doing. I needed to tell you this," Costa said straight to the president.

Trump grinned and fired back with classic style: "You're too good looking to be a fighter... and you are some fighter."

Just raw respect from a hard-hitting Brazilian beast to the man fighting for America every single day. While the media obsesses over division, real warriors know strength when they see it. Trump draws the biggest crowds, the loudest cheers, and now even the toughest fighters in the world are lining up to thank him.

DeepSight:
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Entertainers draw crowds.
And make no mistake a serial draft dodger can never be a warrior.

DeepSight:
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Makes no sense. If it was, they would not have achieved so much.

Modern evolved culture is superior to barbarism yes. That is modernity. Not JC culture because that included the divine right of kings which led to totalitarianism, feudalism and slavery for example. Also the witch hunts and much more.