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Re: Islamic And Christian God Not My Belief – Wole Soyinka by stolaonipekun: 8:46pm On Apr 14
What's inside KABA in mecca?
Re: Islamic And Christian God Not My Belief – Wole Soyinka by goslowgoslow(m): 8:48pm On Apr 14
AkinwaleJJ:
It's unchristian for JWs to engage in political discussions that's the reason why and i have not seen any JW on this forum engaging in political discussions.

OK how old are you?

You can't be a practicing JW and always with this attitude of getting offended when no one insulted you.

Meanwhile you are the first to start passing insults at commentators as if Soyinka is your uncle.

Oya how old are you?
How do you know I was offended are you seeing me? How did I passed insult please show me? You are very rude and you don't appear like a JW, we don't get rude. I told you that I baptized 40 years ago at least that should tell you something about my age. I asked for your age and you are asking me back. I just noticed that you are a woman. Please it is none of your business if I talk politics, it is my problem before God not yours. At this point I am going to block you again, it is obvious that you can't even be anywhere near the age of the last of my child. JW are not rude even if people have contrary opinion. I won't respond to you again and also blocking you. Have a good day.
Re: Islamic And Christian God Not My Belief – Wole Soyinka by goslowgoslow(m): 8:49pm On Apr 14
AkinwaleJJ:
It's unchristian for JWs to engage in political discussions that's the reason why and i have not seen any JW on this forum engaging in political discussions.

OK how old are you?

You can't be a practicing JW and always with this attitude of getting offended when no one insulted you.

Meanwhile you are the first to start passing insults at commentators as if Soyinka is your uncle.

Oya how old are you?
From atheist discussion to my personal life! What is your business? Continuing to discuss with you means I am belittling myself, go and learn respect that Jehovah's Witnesses are known for.
Re: Islamic And Christian God Not My Belief – Wole Soyinka by NevetsIbot(m):
judewrites:
God created you in his own image and likeness.....yet you deny him huh

For the fact he has lived this long, shows the mercy of God, I hope he acknowledges Him before the curtains shut.
The Fact that Bin Laden lived for 54yrs was a sign of your gods mercy also?
The fact that mostly Everyone in the Epstein files are still alive and thriving is a sign of your gods mercy too?

There’s no proof of your gods existence or even the fact that anyone was created in his image.. there’s nothing real about any of the Abrahamic gods. It’s just the history of the Jewish people and the gods they worshipped that you, an African man, with a totally different culture, history and religion was forced to believe in by a totally different people from another culture cos people of your colour looked better as slaves.

Wake up!
Re: Islamic And Christian God Not My Belief – Wole Soyinka by goslowgoslow(m): 8:58pm On Apr 14
AkinwaleJJ:
It's unchristian for JWs to engage in political discussions that's the reason why and i have not seen any JW on this forum engaging in political discussions.

OK how old are you?

You can't be a practicing JW and always with this attitude of getting offended when no one insulted you.

Meanwhile you are the first to start passing insults at commentators as if Soyinka is your uncle.

Oya how old are you?
One of the rules of NL is not to have two or more monikers, you called yourself a JW but you cannot obey the rules of the forum. Is that what you learned at the kingdom Hall? Can you see your hypocrisy?
Re: Islamic And Christian God Not My Belief – Wole Soyinka by IbileIfe: 9:08pm On Apr 14
MaxInDHouse:
Who cares what you believe baba?😂
You are not an atheist if you believe in Orisa like Ogun and Sango or any spiritual core.
Re: Islamic And Christian God Not My Belief – Wole Soyinka by AkinwaleJJ(f): 9:15pm On Apr 14
goslowgoslow:
One of the rules of NL is not to have two or more monikers, you called yourself a JW but you cannot obey the rules of the forum. Is that what you learned at the kingdom Hall? Can you see your hypocrisy?
Surely you are an apostate that's why you're not polite yet demanding politeness from others.
First of all NL is not the authority the Bible says we must obey, secondly it's not a crime having more than one account on the forum otherwise they should have banned many who are doing it, lastly this account belongs to my wife and i only use it periodically.
So you are an apostate that's why you are so engulfed in politics.
You can't be a practicing JW yet getting easily offended at every conversation because in God's organization we are trained to speak respectfully to everyone even annoying ones! 1Peter 3:15
Re: Islamic And Christian God Not My Belief – Wole Soyinka by goslowgoslow(m): 9:25pm On Apr 14
AkinwaleJJ:
Surely you are an apostate that's why you're not polite yet demanding politeness from others.
First of all NL is not the authority the Bible says we must obey, secondly it's not a crime having more than one account on the forum otherwise they should have banned many who are doing it, lastly this account belongs to my wife and i only use it periodically.
So you are an apostate that's why you are so engulfed in politics.
You can't be a practicing JW yet getting easily offended at every conversation because in God's organization we are trained to speak respectfully to everyone even annoying ones! 1Peter 3:15
Yes I am an apostle how is that your business?
Now that I confirm to you that I am an apostate go report to elders. Carry problem wey no be your own for head all these over sabi Witnesses.
Pikin wey dem never born when I baptized dey quote Bible for me. I have met so many brothers and sisters online you are the rudest...you are very far from being a JW you need elders help.
Blocked finally. You can use your sister's moniker to respond. JW that is impersonating people.
Re: Islamic And Christian God Not My Belief – Wole Soyinka by AkinwaleJJ(f): 9:35pm On Apr 14
goslowgoslow:
Yes I am an apostle how is that your business?
Now that I confirm to you that I am an apostate go report to elders. Carry problem wey no be your own for head all these over sabi Witnesses.
Pikin wey dem never born when I baptized dey quote Bible for me. I have met so many brothers and sisters online you are the rudest...you are very far from being a JW you need elders help.
Blocked finally. You can use your sister's moniker to respond. JW that is impersonating people.
Ọmọ i am a GRANDPA so listen and learn.

You can say whatever you like but on this thread only you proved to be RUDE speaking aggressively to everyone and at the same time demanding respect from others.

Your temperament exposed you. Remember God's organization never drove you away it's this attitude that's making you uncomfortable among true believers!

Farewell!
Re: Islamic And Christian God Not My Belief – Wole Soyinka by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:46pm On Apr 14
Lukuluku69:
I thought we had an agreement not to cross each others path?
If you don't want to answer the question it's OK but know that there is no justice in punishing a nice person for an offense he is not aware of.
So God will not judge people like Wole Soyinka for what he doesn't know that is why true believers need to intensify in our effort to help right hearted individuals.
Until he gets the sense and deliberately turn against the truth from that moment his judgement begins but until he grasp the message of truth he remains innocent.

Thanks!
Re: Islamic And Christian God Not My Belief – Wole Soyinka by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:48pm On Apr 14
IbileIfe:
You are not an atheist if you believe in Orisa like Ogun and Sango or any spiritual core.
He can't be an atheist if he claims he believes in any religion!
Re: Islamic And Christian God Not My Belief – Wole Soyinka by Mattswaggz: 9:49pm On Apr 14
Lukuluku69:
It is actually not my opinion per se but the opinions of Billions of people of Faith.

I am happen to be just one of them.
Flat earth was also the opinion of billions at some point in time.... doesn't validate anything.
Re: Islamic And Christian God Not My Belief – Wole Soyinka by Ragingthunder(f): 9:53pm On Apr 14
amoco:
Who cares?
clearly you
Re: Islamic And Christian God Not My Belief – Wole Soyinka by Lukuluku69(m): 10:00pm On Apr 14
Mattswaggz:
Flat earth was also the opinion of billions at some point in time.... doesn't validate anything.
True but even with physical evidence of a spherical earth, flat Earthers still hold on to that belief unfortunately the Fay of Judgement is not for this realm so, no evidence
Re: Islamic And Christian God Not My Belief – Wole Soyinka by Lukuluku69(m): 10:02pm On Apr 14
MaxInDHouse:
If you don't want to answer the question it's OK but know that there is no justice in punishing a nice person for an offense he is not aware of.
So God will not judge people like Wole Soyinka for what he doesn't know that is why true believers need to intensify in our effort to help right hearted individuals.
Until he gets the sense and deliberately turn against the truth from that moment his judgement begins but until he grasp the message of truth he remains innocent.

Thanks!
Have you forgotten so soon how you begged that I should never mention your moniker again?

Is the Dementia onset coming early?

Please respect your words....
Re: Islamic And Christian God Not My Belief – Wole Soyinka by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:24pm On Apr 14
It's OK!🙂
Lukuluku69:
Have you forgotten so soon how you begged that I should never mention your moniker again?
Is the Dementia onset coming early?
Please respect your words....
Re: Islamic And Christian God Not My Belief – Wole Soyinka by Mattswaggz: 10:28pm On Apr 14
Lukuluku69:
True but even with physical evidence of a spherical earth, flat Earthers still hold on to that belief unfortunately the Fay of Judgement is not for this realm so, no evidence
Now you've answered the question appropriately.....a piece of an advice though....the best way to know the Almighty is to focus on reality, study his creations using the brain He gave you and the truth will reveal itself.... depending on men to tell you everything is very risky(90+%).

If there is an Almighty God out there and he created men then they would most likely be the least creation He will depend on to spread His message to humanity given their evil, selfish, greedy and wicked nature.....instead He will do it Himself using Nature which is there for all to admire,gain from,learn from and see the truth they need to on their own without being coersed by fear like those who preach "Hell" if one doesn't acknowledge their opinion about the Almighty.
Re: Islamic And Christian God Not My Belief – Wole Soyinka by TenQ: 10:48pm On Apr 14
goslowgoslow:
Gibberish nothing meaningful to say! You can continue fighting with your key board and Google.
Atheist don't believe in God yes nobody is arguing that but they still believe some form of spirit I don't know why comprehension is this difficult. After now I will block you, I don't go back and forth with children because you are so pained that now you are being rude.
Boohoo!
Facts don't lie!
Ignorance is a Biiss!

Silence is Golden!!
We wouldn't have known.... until you spoke!
Re: Islamic And Christian God Not My Belief – Wole Soyinka by goslowgoslow(m): 11:03pm On Apr 14
TenQ:
Boohoo!
Facts don't lie!
Ignorance is a Biiss!

Silence is Golden!!
We wouldn't have known.... until you spoke!
Delulu! Blocked.
Re: Islamic And Christian God Not My Belief – Wole Soyinka by Epiphany77: 11:07pm On Apr 14
Kobojunkie:
Why are even the most learned among Nigerians some of the most ignorant? I can't seem to wrap my head around this. 😒😒😒

Not trying to hold brief for any religion but want to understand exactly how did this man come away concluding that the traditional orisa worship we have in Yoruba land is less associated with violence? is he suggesting we turn a blind eye to the violence of money rituals or ritual murders for example? 😒😒

I happen to have read somewhere that he is or was a cultist and we all know it is associated with traditional worship ideas. Are cults equally less violent? 😒😒''

2. He is free to believe in whatever he chooses; but he does not have freedom to make up his own facts, abeg. To this day, we don't know whether much of the kidnapping happening across Nigeria is connected to orisa worship or not but the pattern seems to follow in many cases.😒
use your head.
Re: Islamic And Christian God Not My Belief – Wole Soyinka by Kobojunkie: 11:09pm On Apr 14
Epiphany77:
use your head.
You first! 🥱🥱
Re: Islamic And Christian God Not My Belief – Wole Soyinka by OOLUSEG(m): 11:44pm On Apr 14
Ever8090:
Shei this man protest during Johnathan's regime when fuel was 170 ,a bag of rice wa 6k when we use to buy 2 eggs 50 naira, 1 round bread 30 naira...today na religion him dey discuss instead to go protest....I stop taking him serious Long time ago .
They forbid you and your Father to protest?....it's his choice not yours 💯😏
Re: Islamic And Christian God Not My Belief – Wole Soyinka by Lukuluku69(m): 1:01am On Apr 15
Mattswaggz:
Now you've answered the question appropriately.....a piece of an advice though....the best way to know the Almighty is to focus on reality, study his creations using the brain He gave you and the truth will reveal itself.... depending on men to tell you everything is very risky(90+%).

If there is an Almighty God out there and he created men then they would most likely be the least creation He will depend on to spread His message to humanity given their evil, selfish, greedy and wicked nature.....instead He will do it Himself using Nature which is there for all to admire,gain from,learn from and see the truth they need to on their own without being coersed by fear like those who preach "Hell" if one doesn't acknowledge their opinion about the Almighty.
So, watching and learning will cure a man from being evil, selfish, greedy and his wicked nature?

To every his thoughts and ways, you can actually live your life as such.....

But why stand in the way of those who believe that God Almighty choose from amongst men, a man to deliver the message of not being evil, selfish, greedy and of wicked nature? Is that not a possibility also?
Re: Islamic And Christian God Not My Belief – Wole Soyinka by Mattswaggz: 2:32am On Apr 15
Lukuluku69:
So, watching and learning will cure a man from being evil, selfish, greedy and his wicked nature?

To every his thoughts and ways, you can actually live your life as such.....

But why stand in the way of those who believe that God Almighty choose from amongst men, a man to deliver the message of not being evil, selfish, greedy and of wicked nature? Is that not a possibility also?
That is not just a possibility.... it's close to the truth but it's men not a "man" and those men are spread across different continent,race, ethnicity,tribe,Nations.....no one holds the ultimate truth as some religious beliefs proclaim....Good and evil is what differentiate light from darkness and good and evil people are everywhere in every race.....those people selling division using the Almighty's name have an agenda and it's far from being good in most cases.

The Almighty has demonstrated through nature equal love, distribution of talents and resources to keep us in need of one another but some people are preaching division in the name of religion.......what can I say though....each man to his own but actions have consequences.
Re: Islamic And Christian God Not My Belief – Wole Soyinka by emmyN(m): 3:23am On Apr 15
Negroid001:
It's not coincidence how me and a lot of intellectuals align on the same belief. You cannot be intelligent and belief in a made up God used to oppress your ancestors and brainwash you.
Michael Faraday (electric motor),

Alessandro Volta (electric battery),

Louis Pasteur (pasteurization),

Blaise Pascal (mechanical calculator)

George Washington Carver (hundreds of agricultural products)


All Christians. What's your IQ again?
Re: Islamic And Christian God Not My Belief – Wole Soyinka by illicit(m): 5:52am On Apr 15
Kobojunkie:
Did you not have to read a book to learn about Abraham and Canaanites? What do you intend to gain from all of these ramblings? 🤔🤔
U don't need a book to know God


Those people u mention are humans and it's another human that wrote about them

Books are of different types
Some books can make u or mar u


Because it's human
Re: Islamic And Christian God Not My Belief – Wole Soyinka by Kobojunkie: 6:02am On Apr 15
illicit:
➜U don't need a book to know God Those people u mention are humans and it's another human that wrote about them Books are of different types Some books can make u or mar u Because it's human
What is up with this nonsense you keep spewing? We are talking here of the actions of humans. 🤔

You claimed that those who take part in money ritual are not orisa worshippers even though they claim that they in fact worship orisa. The onus falls on you to provide us with proof of your counterclaims. You have done absolutely nothing to make yourself believable in this. Posting more of the same goobledegook ain't helping your arguement in any way. 🤔
Re: Islamic And Christian God Not My Belief – Wole Soyinka by Negroid001(m): 6:06am On Apr 15
Kobojunkie:
1. First of all, delusions are not all bad. Yes, they are all founded on lies, but some delusions can be necessary evils. 🥱🥱

Second, most people whether religious or not, operate under one form of delusion or another. We are not all brave when it comes to fixing reality head on, so we latch onto delusions here and there to keep us steady hopefully until we became more courageous. Third, it does not really matter the geography of the particular delusion. What instead matters is how beneficial that delusion is to you and the wider society in which you find yourself in. 🥱🥱

I hate religion. It is built on lies and deceit, I have seen and read the terrible things religion can make men do to even their own flesh and blood. 🥱🥱

But I have also read and seen how equally barbaric and depraved the human mind can become without religion. Worse, what I understand now that uncontrolled expression of that barbarism/depravity can wreck unthinkable havoc to the fabric of society. And you know what? And I have had to come to the conclusion that if I had to choose , I would choose religion over unchecked depravity. 🥱🥱
See long write up. So what football club do you support? Sorry what religious denomination do you belong to?
Re: Islamic And Christian God Not My Belief – Wole Soyinka by Negroid001(m): 6:10am On Apr 15
emmyN:
Michael Faraday (electric motor),

Alessandro Volta (electric battery),

Louis Pasteur (pasteurization),

Blaise Pascal (mechanical calculator)

George Washington Carver (hundreds of agricultural products)


All Christians. What's your IQ again?
Albert Einstein
He rejected a personal God and leaned toward a kind of cosmic spirituality. His work reshaped physics (relativity).
• Charles Darwin
Developed evolution by natural selection. Later in life, he described himself as agnostic.
• Stephen Hawking
Argued that the universe can be explained without invoking God.
• Marie Curie
Pioneer of radioactivity; generally considered non-religious.
• Pierre-Simon Laplace
Famously told Napoleon he had “no need of that hypothesis” (God) in explaining the universe.



💡 Technology & Innovation
• Thomas Edison
Criticized organized religion and leaned toward deism/agnosticism.
• Nikola Tesla
Had spiritual ideas but didn’t follow traditional religion.



🧭 Philosophy & Thought
• Friedrich Nietzsche
Declared “God is dead” and explored what morality looks like without religion.
• Bertrand Russell
Open atheist; wrote Why I Am Not a Christian.
• Karl Marx
Saw religion as a social construct (“opium of the people”).



🧬 Modern Thinkers & Scientists
• Richard Dawkins
Strong atheist; promotes scientific explanations over religious ones.
• Carl Sagan
Agnostic; emphasized wonder of the universe without religion.


This is not about IQ. You don't need God to change the world. If you have it, you have it.

So you think because I don't believe in God I will not let a Christian doctor attend to me or a muslim mechanic fix my car.

Hope you can see the difference between me and you.
Re: Islamic And Christian God Not My Belief – Wole Soyinka by Negroid001(m): 6:12am On Apr 15
Greenfusion:
really....where did the one u believe in come from, i hope its not branwash also?
Nope i don't believe in your Jewish God.
I believe everyone should have common sense
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