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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 8:47am On Apr 18
Shame on you guys . You're not a worthy addition to the community. Anyone who relies on you is truly alone. If this kind of blatant disregard for your mother’s and sister’s and daughter’s lives is the future you actively vote for and support.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 8:49am On Apr 18
basilico:
I don't take everything at face value , you might call that a problem. Especially when it comes from sources sworn to destroy Trump.
Kristie Noem, I quickly pointed out she had awarded a week old company millions of dollars to run the ad.
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Did you see anything wrong with her handling of ICE.

Kash Patel .. I don't think he has the cojones to drain the swamp.
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What swamp? Because when people say "drain the swamp" they are sometimes talking about different things.

So go ahead and tell me why Hegseth is incompetent.
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I sincerely think it will be a waste of time.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 8:52am On Apr 18
cococandy:
I swear they would have called Jesus a woke bleeding heart liberal. There are so many parallels to the character of Jesus that they actively mock and malign today.

“Suicidal” empathy is one.

Caring for others is another one.

Non-judgmental behavior is their biggest one.

Heck it’s even worse because they have the most disgusting and harmful behaviors towards others. Yet, they hold so much judgement for things that are simply different and in no way as harmful as their win behaviors. But I digress.

For sure they would’ve mocked Jesus for being a “loser” who didn’t go on conquests to kill and conquer.

Frankly them fronting as Christians is an insult to everything Jesus Christ clearly stood for during his time on earth.
I am an atheist and I love Jesus Christ for the reasons you mention above. And I hate the fact they murdered him and then convinced themselves he died for their sins when he would have educated them to sin no more if they'd just let him live.

Some say he is fictional, but so is a lot of Shakespeare and Aesop, and that does not devalue the lessons one learns from stories about him.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 9:11am On Apr 18

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 10:07am On Apr 18
basilico:
Fake story. They started by saying they are the ones who shot down 2 planes and helicopters that the do called Delta Force destroyed so they wouldn't know about the Direct Energy weapon.

In any case if it's true they would have posted photos of them surrendering.
Or they are so afraid of Trump , during Obama time they splashed these humiliating images of US sailors..

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Ah! The Fake Story Mantra. We will get back to this.

Tell me which story do you believe about the airplanes? That they bombed their own planes?

Let's start from there.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:22am On Apr 18
Usually Trump calls me. This is what he told me. Sssh this is top secret stuff

Two heavy transport aircraft
MC-130J planes landed on a disused airstrip . Each carried 2 MH-6 Littlebird helicopters plus fuel and special forces teams . It had recently rained and the desert Sandy soil was moist. The planes got stuck.

They couldn't get a generator to heat the sand so that the sand could be dry because of time. There was also no firewood nearby that could be used to dry the runway. This is the only part I didn't believe.

The Littlebirds don't have the range to get to the nearest base from that spot.

Lighter planes to extract the crew were sent , and the two transport planes plus their cargo the 4 Littlebirds were destroyed.The inferno was seen from space .Big beautiful inferno.

Happy?

nateevs:
Ah! The Fake Story Mantra. We will get back to this.

Tell me which story do you believe about the airplanes? That they bombed their own planes?

Let's start from there.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 11:40am On Apr 18
Obama Presidential shrine set to open. Expects 700,000 visitors annually.
Many blacks may not manage to enter because
1. An ID is required
2. Entry will be $30 .

The project cost $850 million.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-obama-presidential-center-is-finally-here-prepare-to-pay-up/ar-AA213pTc
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 11:51am On Apr 18
Raumdeuter.
If UK was a state in America it would rank No 51 in income per Capita according to the Institute of Economic Affairs.

😄😄

https://x.com/iealondon/status/2044309867326787891

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
Senate leader John Thune is sabotaging the investigation and indictment of John Brennan. He has refused to provide interview transcript and other documents to investigators in Florida.
The Miami prosecutor who was also slowing down the case has been removed .
A career prosecutor Joe diGenova has been appointed to lead the investigation .He has prosecuted top flight cases and is a conservative.

https://justthenews.com/government/congress/satjohn-thunes-senate-has-delayed-weaponization-prosecutors-john-brennan-probe

Can't wait to see a mugshot of John Brennan.He is an analyst of MSNOW today where he peddles every little lie he can about Trump.

Senator John Thune has also refused to table the VoterID Bill ,refused to remove the filibuster and also prevented Trump from making recess appointments by keeping the Senate in session throughout.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GracieX3(f): 12:16pm On Apr 18
basilico:
Raumdeuter.
If UK was a state in America it would rank No 51 in income per Capita according to the Institute of Economic Affairs.

😄😄

https://x.com/iealondon/status/2044309867326787891
Standard of living is still better in the UK.

-People don't go broke from medical bills in the UK.
-people don't get shot on the street by gangbangers, racists or police as guns are heavily restricted.
-people have better quality of food in the UK as European standards restrict companies from pouring all manner of toxic chemicals in foodstuffs. In America, crony capitalism/lobbying has left companies to do as they like.

Lastly, UK ranks better than USA in the Human Development Index. This means that the UK is more developed and has a better standard of living.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 12:26pm On Apr 18
As you say.
GracieX3:
Standard of living is still better in the UK.

-People don't go broke from medical bills in the UK.
-people don't get shot on the street by gangbangers, racists or police as guns are heavily restricted.
-people have better quality of food in the UK as European standards restrict companies from pouring all manner of toxic chemicals in foodstuffs. In America, crony capitalism/lobbying has left companies to do as they like.

Lastly, UK ranks better than USA in the Human Development Index. This means that the UK is more developed and has a better standard of living.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GracieX3(f): 12:34pm On Apr 18
basilico:
As you say.
grin

What? No nationalist propaganda to spew today?

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 12:59pm On Apr 18
Because black people don’t have $30 and an ID?

It will never be well with whoever it was that has so successfully robbed you of your self esteem.

You really and truly do not think anything of yourself, do you? Who did this to you?

I don’t fight but I might make the exception this once. Just to gather the person that’s responsible for this low self esteem you’re exhibiting.

basilico:
Obama Presidential shrine set to open. Expects 700,000 visitors annually.
Many blacks may not manage to enter because
1. An ID is required
2. Entry will be $30 .

The project cost $850 million.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-obama-presidential-center-is-finally-here-prepare-to-pay-up/ar-AA213pTc
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 1:33pm On Apr 18
cococandy:
Shame on you guys . You're not a worthy addition to the community. Anyone who relies on you is truly alone. If this kind of blatant disregard for your mother’s and sister’s and daughter’s lives is the future you actively vote for and support.
These maga cultists exist to make you angry and annoyed, They know they are not worth a bottle cover
They know they are dumb as a box of bricks and highly stupid. They know...
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 1:35pm On Apr 18
basilico:
As you say.
Under your nose, the corrupt thieving cryto scammer sexual predator trump and his gronies are gaming the markets and making big banks
No corrupt african leaders comes close to the pedophile thief and his gang
But what copy and paste nonsense are you going to riddle us with today?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 1:36pm On Apr 18
bayelsaowei:
They think their stocks can save them when they are challenged with a debilitating illness.
You sound jealous like every liberal
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 1:44pm On Apr 18
nateevs:
Ah! The Fake Story Mantra. We will get back to this.

Tell me which story do you believe about the airplanes? That they bombed their own planes?

Let's start from there.
Its a real story like the Where is Netanyahu story
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 1:51pm On Apr 18
DeepSight:
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Vert well said. Deep. This is so so so so so true, and i relate personally with it. One sudden illness is all it takes.
And i have seen those who scoffed at the needy as lazy finally realize their folly when the table turned on them.
The emtional long winded post aside, The fact of the matter is Who will pay for it

Will you offer to pay more in taxes so that these desires of yours can be done? If yes, why havent you been paying more taxes for it or you are just virtue signaling?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 1:54pm On Apr 18
nateevs:
Iran is reporting the capture of minimum 50 Delta Force soldiers during the attempted (but failed) Isfahan mission, even published some names.

Hegseth and Centcom are denying this.

What happened with this weapon, it doesn't work on the Asian continent?
Can you post the names of the 50 Delta forces soldiers, At least they will have families who can tell if they have heard from them in the past 3 weeks since the mission
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 2:15pm On Apr 18
raumdeuter:
The emtional long winded post aside, The fact of the matter is Who will pay for it

Will you offer to pay more in taxes so that these desires of yours can be done? If yes, why havent you been paying more taxes for it or you are just virtue signaling?
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Firstly, what emotional long winded post?
Secondly do you not understand that there are practical reasons for societies to invest in welfare other than just emotions?
Thirdly, what is wrong with emotions of compassion and empathy for compatriots within the socio economy of a nation-state? Are we robots of human beings?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f):
Emotional long winded post aside, Whoever provides the billions of dollars for unending war to isreal can surely provide the millions for the benefits that American tax paying citizens deserve.

No extra taxes are needed. And no need to pretend the funds are not there because you have chosen to misplace our brains whenever the topic of social benefits are mentioned.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 2:21pm On Apr 18
GracieX3:
grin

What? No nationalist propaganda to spew today?
USA deaths since Roe Vs Wade.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 2:21pm On Apr 18
basilico:
Cross Posted.

I prefer the views of those affected directly by the Iran war ,not the lords of doom here.

Message from Saudi Petroleum expert, Dr. Mansour Al-Malik, Energy consultant and Professor at KSA University

"Thank you, Your Excellency President Trump

The question today is not who started the confrontation… but who stopped the danger before it grew larger.

1- Thank you, Your Excellency President Trump… because you understood what many ignored for years, that the Iranian threat was not theoretical nor media-driven, but missiles being manufactured, drones being stockpiled, cells being planted, and an expansion project awaiting the moment to pounce.

2- Thank you because you were not deceived by the peace slogans raised by day, while weapons were being shipped at night to the Popular Mobilization Forces, Hezbollah, and the cross-border militias.

3- Thank you because you realized that every day of delay was not a day for de-escalation… but an additional day in missile factories, a new day in uranium enrichment, and another day in training proxies.

4- Thank you because you read the history of the region well, and knew that those who bombed embassies, hijacked planes, threatened navigation, and struck oil facilities are not deterred by a statement of condemnation or a diplomatic smile.

5- Thank you because you knew that the security of the Gulf is not merely a local matter, but a pillar of global economic stability, and that targeting Riyadh or Abu Dhabi or Kuwait or Manama or Doha is an attack on energy, trade, and markets around the world.

6- Thank you because you did not wait until Iran became a nuclear power imposing its conditions on everyone, making its deterrence more costly and more dangerous.

7- Thank you because you distinguished between the noble Iranian people, who deserve life and prosperity, and the regime that spent its wealth on militias instead of schools and hospitals.

8- Thank you because you exposed the falsehood of what is called the Axis of Resistance, which raised slogans for decades while its rifles were aimed at Arab capitals more than at its declared enemies.

9- Thank you because you proved that firmness is sometimes the shortest path to peace, and that prolonged hesitation may breed a greater war in the future.

10- Thank you because you gave the peoples of the region hope that the era of blackmail with missiles and drones is not an eternal fate.

11- Thank you because you said in the language of power what years of fruitless negotiations failed to achieve: that the security of allied nations and their sovereignty are red lines.

12- Thank you because you sent a clear message to all who think of threatening their neighbors, that the world may be patient… but it does not forget.

13- Thank you because you stood with your allies when they needed a stance, not just words.

14- Thank you because you understood that stability is not made by those who fund chaos, but by those who deter it.

15- And finally, thank you… because you made many review their calculations, and realize that the time of recklessness may be long… but it does not last.

As for us in the Gulf… we want real peace, the peace of nations not the peace of militias, the peace of development not the peace of fear, the peace of the future not the peace of slogans. "
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Sadly, once presented with a counter view from an equally placed person or even a better placed person, you will go silent and pretend not to have seen it.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 2:21pm On Apr 18
DeepSight:
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Firstly, what emotional long winded post?
Secondly do you not understand that there are practical reasons for societies to invest in welfare other than just emotions?
Thirdly, what is wrong with emotions of compassion and empathy for compatriots within the socio economy of a nation-state? Are we robots of human beings?
So explain simply will you offer to pay more in taxes to afford what you clamor for? Or who should pay for it. All the welfare you want who pays for it

Or should govt just print money to pay for it like you suggested
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 2:21pm On Apr 18
budaatum:
One of the Chief Priests of maga and the tea party that preceded it was Ayn Rand. She railed against handouts to the poor until she needed handouts herself. And the only reason she's not mentioned much anymore is her hypocrisy.
After all their fronting online, whenever they do need help, they quietly go collect it in secret and never come out to say “hey guys I was wrong”.

All the democratic efforts of making sure the people are provided a social safety net end up benefiting the conservatives too without them ever having to lift a finger to help create it.

And they never correct the impression they spent years creating, that those who were in their current position before them somehow did not deserve it but they do.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 2:23pm On Apr 18
raumdeuter:
So explain simply will you offer to pay more in taxes to afford what you clamor for? Or who should pay for it. All the welfare you want who pays for it

Or should govt just print money to pay for it like you suggested
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Combo of all possible resources including tax of course.
Please note that the income of governments are not limited to tax alone.

Quit asking who should pay for it as though it is charity. It is not charity. It is insurance for everyone. You paying that tax today could be the one in need tomorrow as very often happens.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 2:23pm On Apr 18
DeepSight:
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Sadly, once presented with a counter view from an equally placed person or even a better placed person, you will go silent and pretend not to have seen it.
I don't understand you. I was in the middle of something.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f):
DeepSight:
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Firstly, what emotional long winded post?
Secondly do you not understand that there are practical reasons for societies to invest in welfare other than just emotions?
Thirdly, what is wrong with emotions of compassion and empathy for compatriots within the socio economy of a nation-state? Are we robots of human beings?
When you challenge a dvmb magat to use his brain, his first defense to run behind is “oh this is emotional. It’s making me think, that must be emotion“ 😄.

Btw the USA prints money every single year not to replace old notes but to make up for the spending excesses. (Which Trump has ballooned btw)

I do feel sorry for you that you will yet encounter another version of him that’s in support of printing money only when Trump does it.

The whiplash of hypocrisy and ignorance you’re about to encounter might have you dazed.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GloriousGbola: 2:29pm On Apr 18
DeepSight:
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Combo of all possible resources including tax of course.
Please note that the income of governments are not limited to tax alone.

Quit asking who should pay for it as though it is charity. It is not charity. It is insurance for everyone. You paying that tax today could be the one in need tomorrow as very often happens.
https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/president-dwight-d-eisenhowers-farewell-address

On January 17, 1961, in this farewell address, President Dwight Eisenhower warned against the establishment of a "military-industrial complex."

In a speech of less than 10 minutes, on January 17, 1961, President Dwight Eisenhower delivered his political farewell to the American people on national television from the Oval Office of the White House. Those who expected the military leader and hero of World War II to depart his Presidency with a nostalgic, "old soldier" speech like Gen. Douglas MacArthur's, were surprised at his strong warnings about the dangers of the "military-industrial complex."

As President of the United States for two terms, Eisenhower had slowed the push for increased defense spending despite pressure to build more military equipment during the Cold War’s arms race. Nonetheless, the American military services and the defense industry had expanded a great deal in the 1950s. Eisenhower thought this growth was needed to counter the Soviet Union, but it confounded him. Though he did not say so explicitly, his standing as a military leader helped give him the credibility to stand up to the pressures of this new, powerful interest group. He eventually described it as a necessary evil.

A vital element in keeping the peace is our military establishment. Our arms must be mighty, ready for instant action, so that no potential aggressor may be tempted to risk his own destruction. . . . American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But now we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense; we have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. . . . This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. . . .Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. . . . In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

The end of Eisenhower’s term as President not only marked the end of the 1950s, but also the end of an era in government. A new, younger generation was rising to national power that would set a more youthful, vigorous course. His farewell address was a warning to his successors of one of the many things they would have to be wary of in the coming years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military%E2%80%93industrial_complex

Proxmire
Proxmire's The Economics of Military Procurement was highly influential among critics of the military-industrial complex.[31]

William Proxmire was the chief advocate for the idea of the military-industrial complex as an unaccountable bureaucracy that wastes resources in order to turn a profit. He achieved prominence in this role in 1968 when he was featured on the front page of the New York Times after giving a press conference where he named 23 defense contractors who he said were engaged in "shocking abuse". Proxmire was quoted as saying: "I think this is an excellent example of the military industrial complex at work, with the victim being ... the taxpayer".[32] James Ledbetter said that Proxmire's attacks on the military-industrial complex were interpreted as a proxy for opposition to the Vietnam War.[31] Proxmire said that the C-5A Galaxy jet was "one of the greatest fiscal disasters in the history of military contracting."[33] He secured the testimony of U.S. Air Force whistleblower A. Ernest Fitzgerald before Congress. Fitzgerald testified in 1968 that cost overruns on the C-5A would reach $2 billion (equivalent to $14 billion in 2024) due to underestimation of costs, ineffective cost controls, and perverse incentives inherent in the repricing formula of the contract.[34][35] The Air Force responded by saying that the actual overrun was half what Fitzgerald claimed. Proxmire said the Air Force was concealing the full extent of the overrun and pressed the Government Accountability Office to investigate the entire project.[34]
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 2:30pm On Apr 18
DeepSight:
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Combo of all possible resources including tax of course.
Please note that the income of governments are not limited to tax alone.

Quit asking who should pay for it as though it is charity. It is not charity. It is insurance for everyone. You paying that tax today could be the one in need tomorrow as very often happens.
US govt income is primarily from taxes. So how will the govt afford to pay for these welfare you desire?

Increase taxes? Or where? The top federal tax is 37% some states charge up to another 13% state tax, plus property tax, sales tax etc

So how much more of their income shoupd they pay up? 70% of their income, 80% or 100%

Instead of emotionally spazzing out tell where the money will come from

All those who want more taxes find it convenient to exclude themselves from those who should pay more

There is a reason why the US is the top destination for most people in the world and top innovators surely its not because they impose heavy taxes for welfare
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 2:35pm On Apr 18
raumdeuter:
US govt income is primarily from taxes. So how will the govt afford to pay for these welfare you desire?

Increase taxes? Or where? The top federal tax is 37% some states charge up to another 13% state tax, plus property tax, sales tax etc

So how much more of their income shoupd they pay up? 70% of their income, 80% or 100%

Instead of emotionally spazzing out tell where the money will come from

All those who want more taxes find it convenient to exclude themselves from those who should pay more

There is a reason why the US is the top destination for most people in the world and top innovators surely its not because they impose heavy taxes for welfare
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Wherever the money for needless wars comes from is a good start.

However beyond that, it is ignorant to argue that the USA cannot afford reasonable (not excessive) welfare schemes.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 2:36pm On Apr 18
“Who will pay for social safety benefits for American citizens”?

Oh I don’t know. Whoever provides it to isreal (whose citizens have free healthcare and heavily subsidized college education btw).

Their money is good for developing their citizens by investing in free healthcare and cheap education but our money is good for sending to them for war.

Meanwhile our kids take loans at a young age to go to college.

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