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Does watching the many extreme infirmities, indignities and vulnerabilities of old age not take away in many cases the joy of living a long and ripe life and lead many to question the mercies and intentions of our creator?

Old age wasn't part of God's purpose for us {Job 33:25} it came along with sin {Romans 3:23} so long or short life means nothing to the true God {Genesis 5:23-24} because this is not what real life means to Him! 1Timothy 6:19
What God promised His worshipers is everlasting life! Psalms 37:29; John 3:16

MaxInDHouse:
Old age wasn't part of God's purpose for us {Job 33:25} it came along with sin {Romans 3:23} so long or short life means nothing to the true God {Genesis 5:23-24} because this is not what real life means to Him! 1Timothy 6:19
What God promised His worshipers is everlasting life! Psalms 37:29; John 3:16

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I am talking about the peculiar infirmities and vulnerabilities of old age and old age related illnesses which can be extreme and depressing.

DeepSight:
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I am talking about the peculiar infirmities and vulnerabilities of old age and old age related illnesses which can be extreme and depressing.

It's part of the consequences of Adamic sin we inherited.
Today we live less than 100 years and our infirmities and vulnerability begins at late 70s so from that time onwards we start to anticipate expiration but do you know Adam suffered greatly?

He died at the age of 930 which means his oldage, infirmities and vulnerability began when he was in his late 700s so for about 230 years Adam suffered till he finally died.

That is what we inherited from him so at oldage we should be ready to face the consequences of what Adam caused for all his descendants.

See this three girls and what they had to experience before their expiration!

DeepSight:
Does watching the many extreme infirmities, indignities and vulnerabilities of old age not take away in many cases the joy of living a long and ripe life and lead many to question the mercies and intentions of our creator?

You don dey feel the heat abi? You ain't seen nothing yet.

To the post, it is only cus people who complaining about old age. And they are the same ones who life for them was already bitter even when they were young.

And this is in addition to the fact that since you people have fallen for Satan's trap, so more cuses of diseases have fallen on you people unlike in the past were 80yr olds still went to their farms

So, you don't bring God into this matter but it is the result of you people's increased sins. So, you are just lamenting about the various ways God has set life do deal with you ivu pips

Dtruthspeaker:
You don dey feel the heat abi? You ain't seen nothing yet.

To the post, it is only cus people who complaining about old age. And they are the same ones who life for them was already bitter even when they were young.

And this is in addition to the fact that since you people have fallen for Satan's trap, so more cuses of diseases have fallen on you people unlike in the past were 80yr olds still went to their farms

So, you don't bring God into this matter but it is the result of you people's increased sins. So, you are just lamenting about the various ways God has set life do deal with you ivu pips

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You are insensitive. Maybe you fell from the sky and dont have parents or maybe they didnt grow old or maybe you didnt witness it.

DeepSight:
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You are insensitive. Maybe you fell from the sky and dont have parents or maybe they didnt grow old or maybe you didnt witness it.

Are you minding that one. He has no sense of what is appropriate. Many of them have no sense of empathy.

DeepSight:
Does watching the many extreme infirmities, indignities and vulnerabilities of old age not take away in many cases the joy of living a long and ripe life and lead many to question the mercies and intentions of our creator?

Bro it is one of my greatest pains rn. I have an infirm parent who has suffered multiple strokes, the contrast between their current condition and when they were in good health is heartbreaking. Mind you they are a believer in god, Jesus and all that jazz. Goes to show all that is just not really relevant to RL.

LordReed:
Bro it is one of my greatest pains rn. I have an infirm parent who has suffered multiple strokes, the contrast between their current condition and when they were in good health is heartbreaking. Mind you they are a believer in god, Jesus and all that jazz. Goes to show all that is just not really relevant to RL.

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I am so terribly sorry to hear this. I wish you and yours strength and healing and fortitude and also the presence to enjoy each other still. The situation strikes a deep chord with me as its very close to home. Very.

DeepSight:
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I am so terribly sorry to hear this. I wish you and yours strength and healing and fortitude and also the presence to enjoy each other still. The situation strikes a deep chord with me as its very close to home. Very.

Thanks bro. I wish you same. Some times privilege makes people unable to empathise.

Dtruthspeaker:
You don dey feel the heat abi? You ain't seen nothing yet.

To the post, it is only cus people who complaining about old age. And they are the same ones who life for them was already bitter even when they were young.

And this is in addition to the fact that since you people have fallen for Satan's trap, so more cuses of diseases have fallen on you people unlike in the past were 80yr olds still went to their farms

So, you don't bring God into this matter but it is the result of you people's increased sins. So, you are just lamenting about the various ways God has set life do deal with you ivu pips

Completely unrelated to the topic.

Heal!

DeepSight:
Does watching the many extreme infirmities, indignities and vulnerabilities of old age not take away in many cases the joy of living a long and ripe life and lead many to question the mercies and intentions of our creator?

I'm not alone with these thoughts after all.


I have been around advanced people a lot, so I'm very much abreast with your observations.

All I can say is, God has nothing to do with all of of this. We don't even know we'll be here in the 1st place. Leaving here whether young or really old doesn't matter, to me at least but I usually mutter a silent prayer to experience the former.

Lastpharoah33:
I'm not alone with these thoughts after all.


I have been around advanced people a lot, so I'm very much abreast with your observations.

All I can say is, God has nothing to do with all of of this. We don't even know we'll be here in the 1st place. Leaving here whether young or really old doesn't matter, to me at least but I usually mutter a silent prayer to experience the former.

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Do I understand you right that you pray for a younger passing to avoid the problems of deep old age?

Lastpharoah33:
Completely unrelated to the topic.

Heal!

I addressed the topic even though I know why he is asking this question. So, you are only complaining because I dared to say what you did not wish anyone to say

LordReed:
Bro it is one of my greatest pains rn. I have an infirm parent who has suffered multiple strokes, the contrast between their current condition and when they were in good health is heartbreaking. Mind you they are a believer in god, Jesus and all that jazz. Goes to show all that is just not really relevant to RL.

If we tell you people that you were never Christians but misinformed churchgoers you will become provoked and sometimes insult us for telling you the truth.
Did Jesus perform any miracles to cure oldage or infirmities associated with it?

Did he promise any of his disciples that they won't experience infirmities associated with oldage?

NO!

Rather this is what the Bible says about oldage:

Remember, then, your Grand Creator in the days of your youth, before the days of distress come and the years arrive when you will say: “I have no pleasure in them” Ecclesiastes 12:1

This means by the time infirmities associated with oldage comes servants of the true God will sit down either on his wheelchair or laying down on his sick bed and look back to those days when he or she was actively participating in doing God's will and that smile of approval will come to his face as he remembers all the things he did with fellow believers in God's work.

But what about unbelievers who were running up and down seeking wealth and pleasure?

That's when they will say "There is nothing meaningful i did in all those days" Ecclesiastes 12:1b🙂

DeepSight:
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Do I understand you right that you pray for a younger passing to avoid the problems of deep old age?

Whether old or young when a condemd is dying, it is always a horrible experience. I just went through the experience of watching a family member die yesterday and so now I know first hand a lot more about dying and death. And i pity all those who are enemies of God. There is no escaping God and it is on that day you would real eyes why Solomon said fear God.

Cc SpyMaster1

Dtruthspeaker:
Whether old or young when a condemd is dying, it is always a horrible experience. I just went through the experience of watching a family member die yesterday and so now I know first hand a lot more about dying and death. And i pity all those who are enemies of God

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Condolences on your loss. And please it is not for you to know or say who is condemned as you are not the judge.

LordReed:
Bro it is one of my greatest pains rn. I have an infirm parent who has suffered multiple strokes, the contrast between their current condition and when they were in good health is heartbreaking. Mind you they are a believer in god, Jesus and all that jazz. Goes to show all that is just not really relevant to RL.

For him to get stroke means that he did not believe.

I have always told you that when believers die, it is different and i have seen the deaths of both a believer and the others and the difference is clear.

DeepSight:
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Do I understand you right that you pray for a younger passing to avoid the problems of deep old age?

You read that right,

Disturbing right?

DeepSight:
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Condolences on your loss. And please it is not for you to know or say who is condemned as you are not the judge.

I know I am supposed to say thank you but in truth i don't think it is appropriate for it is not my loss but a lesson. A lesson God has been warning man since He washed the world but people never listen. Rather they have grown worser and worser. In the same hospital in my hearing, a nurse was telling a mother complaining about the cost of delivery, she told the mother that she should leave her child and that by the time she comes someone would have purchased her child, just like that. What an ivu, made even boldly

And then people like Reed think that it shouldn't get worser?

This is a case of the world is reaping some of the fruits they have planted as they listened and followed people like Reed. It is only going to get worse and death for the condemned cannot be described it is a terrible sight

Lastpharoah33:
You read that right,

Disturbing right?

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It is not disturbing because I think of the exact same thing all the time. I often even think that at a certain age or stage, I would rather call it a day myself.

Dtruthspeaker:
For him to get stroke means that he did not believe.

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Jesus Christ, what manner of creature are you ? ? ? ?

Even your bible teaches different -

"Neither this man nor his parents sinned," said Jesus, "but this happened so that the works of God might be displayed in him."
— John 9:3 (NIV)

DeepSight:
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Jesus Christ, what manner of creature are you ? ? ? ?

Even your bible teaches different -

"Neither this man nor his parents sinned," said Jesus, "but this happened so that the works of God might be displayed in him."
— John 9:3 (NIV)

I am the creature who faces the Truth as it is. I hate watered down Truth.

That was in answer to the question why the man was born blind. It did not say that the man is holy

Dtruthspeaker:
I know I am supposed to say thank you but in truth i don't think it is appropriate for it is not my loss but a lesson. A lesson God has been warning man since He washed the world but people never listen. Rather they have grown worser and worser. In the same hospital in my hearing, a nurse was telling a mother complaining about the cost of delivery, she told the mother that she should leave her child and that by the time she comes someone would have purchased her child, just like that. What an ivu, made even boldly

And then people like Reed think that it shouldn't get worser?

This is a case of the world is reaping some of the fruits they have planted as they listened and followed people like Reed. It is only going to get worse and death for the condemned cannot be described it is a terrible sight

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Please stop saying "worser."
Well maybe Kukutente23 will agree with you.

Dtruthspeaker:
I am the creature who faces the Truth as it is. I hate watered down Truth.

That was in answer to the question why the man was born blind. It did not say that the man is holy

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It did not say that the man disbelieved or had sinned either! Whereas you point to an illness as evidence of disbelief. While Jesus clearly says its not necessarily the case!

Why do I even bother with you.

Like I said earlier, I have been around Old people more often than not.

When I was still serving, under the igbo apprenticeship program, my master then was a wealthy billionaire (no mince of words) in naira.

Man had a full house. 8 children, 5 of us as apprentices, wife still around, a full house like I said. I was his closest servant then, I understood his emotional,physical, psychological struggles.

His health took the greatest toll on him, dude was literally leaving on drugs. He had diabetes, ulcer, high BP, cholesterol. But did put his sh!t together I must say.

Another thing was his own siblings, always at loggerheads. Even when all of them are well off. He's a devoted Christian, a Roman Catholic.

I think, the struggles that comes with old age is not determined by how pious the individual is, notable figures in the Bible had their own fair share. It's basic biology I suppose.

DeepSight:
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It did not say that the man disbelieved or had sinned either! Whereas you point to an illness as evidence of disbelief. While Jesus clearly says its not necessarily the case!

Why do I even bother with you.

The topic is on death and not on infirmity of blindness. And on death, believers die differently from others. And that is what I am saying. And even you have heard it so just like me but because i saw it with my own eyes is why I can tell you that death of a believer is different from others whether you like or not. It will always be like this.

So all y'all lamenting about death, is because you get that God has shown you people your future

DeepSight:
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Please stop saying "worser."
Well maybe Kukutente23 will agree with you.

As say it as it truly is. It is worser. In my days it did not exist that you needed to buy a baby but today the cus of barrenness is all over the place and you say that I should not say worser.

Denial does not change the fact

Dtruthspeaker:
The topic is on death and not on infirmity of blindness. And on death, believers die differently from others. And that is what I am saying. And even you have heard it so just like me but because i saw it with my own eyes is why I can tell you that death of a believer is different from others whether you like or not. It will always be like this.

So all y'all lamenting about death, is because you get that God has shown you people your future

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It's truly no use interacting with you. You don't even know the topic.

DeepSight:
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You are insensitive. Maybe you fell from the sky and dont have parents or maybe they didnt grow old or maybe you didnt witness it.

My father and mother are almost 80 and my father still drives from Abuja to the village and back when no one is available to take him for functions (burials and weddings) there. Both are enjoying every drop of life with me.

But, everyone of us knows that this life on earth is only the beginning and that this life determines the next one. So death is just the vehicle delivering people to their different destinations. And y'all chosen which way you wanna go, so you have no right to lament about the cost way your choice is

Lastpharoah33:
Like I said earlier, I have been around Old people more often than not.

When I was still serving, under the igbo apprenticeship program, my master then was a wealthy billionaire (no mince of words) in naira.

Man had a full house. 8 children, 5 of us as apprentices, wife still around, a full house like I said. I was his closest servant then, I understood his emotional,physical, psychological struggles.

His health took the greatest toll on him, dude was literally leaving on drugs. He had diabetes, ulcer, high BP, cholesterol. But did put his sh!t together I must say.

Another thing was his own siblings, always at loggerheads. Even when all of them are well off. He's a devoted Christian, a Roman Catholic.

I think, the struggles that comes with old age is not determined by how pious the individual is, notable figures in the Bible had their own fair share. It's basic biology I suppose.

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Thanks for sharing.